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arossetti reviewed v8 Update 60 on Aug 21, 2015

Update 60 doesn't automatically remove older versions of Java as previous versions did. You should uninstall update 51 and earlier versions before installing this update.

smaragdus reviewed v8 Update 51 on Jul 26, 2015

Java 7 was OK but Java 8 sucks hard- 'Medium' security level has been removed (now it has only 'Very High' and 'High' security levels) and therefore I cannot run Java applets in browsers which makes Java useless for me.

sn0wflake reviewed v8 Update 51 on Jul 16, 2015

I can't even download this piece of crap that I absolutely need to have but don't want.

NetaS AMEBA reviewed v8 Build b51 Preview on Oct 29, 2013

HI. THIS WILL BE ABOUT 64 BIT JRE FOR GOOGLE CHROME. ON HAM RADIO WEB SDR'S 64 BIT JRE : 7U25, 7U40 & 7U45 VERY UNSTABLE- CRASHING EVERY TIME. LAST PRETTY STABLE FOR G. CHROME IS 64 BIT JRE 7U21. GL & 73 !

johnusa reviewed v8 Build b47 Preview on Jul 19, 2012

Ever since Oracle took over Sun, Java is going downhill at an alarming rate.
May Larry Ellison and company just go to hell.

Music4Ever reviewed v8 Build b40 Preview Release on May 31, 2012

When Ii can get by without Java I will ~ That day is fast approaching ~

@borisf98 - going to try your system today ~

CyberDoc999 reviewed v8 Build b40 Preview Release on May 29, 2012

Mark my words in less than 10 years they will ban Java and make it illegal.

Firenze reviewed v8 Build b40 Preview Release on May 28, 2012

Paired with Adobe's Flash, the biggest pest in computer history.

Wanna run something at the speed of a Commodore64, use Java !

borisf98 reviewed v8 Build b40 Preview Release on May 28, 2012

Is not needed anymore unless you use Java standalone apps. I deleted JRE a week ago and had no problems with browsing.

Young Strider reviewed v8 Build b24 Preview Release on Feb 8, 2012

This is the software that will make your Intel Core I7 Extreme system behave and feel like a 25Mhz Intel 80486 system.

Input Overload reviewed v8 Build b19 Preview Release on Jan 6, 2012

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :-)

Input Overload reviewed v8 Build b17 Preview Release on Dec 21, 2011

Not again, this is getting stupid.

Input Overload reviewed v8 Build b16 Preview Release on Dec 9, 2011

Having to use the final Java is bad enough & although I use a lot of Beta software I draw the line at Java. The day I can get by without it is the day it's gone for ever on any of my PC's.

arossetti reviewed v8 Build b14 Preview Release on Nov 20, 2011

Wow. Java 7 hardly works with ANYTHING yet, and they're pushing 8? They must be taking lessons from Mozilla, though at least Firefox works, more or less..

Zoroaster reviewed v7 Update 1 on Oct 19, 2011

At the same time, this very day, you have a "Java SE Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 Update 29" which has been released, so frankly if you understand something to the way Oracle is distributing its updates, give me a hint if you please!
5 stars because I prefer java to tango ...

anomoly reviewed v7 Update 1 on Oct 19, 2011

What's retarded is that you have to have java installed in order to use the oracle site to download it. Java is a pita for sure. There should be a quick on off button as most web sites can be navigated without it at all.

wpure93 reviewed v7 on Aug 16, 2011

no problem with me. It works well enough.

Zoroaster reviewed v7 on Aug 2, 2011

Problem with Java SE Runtime Environment (JRE) 7
Neither OpenOffice nor LibreOffice find (recognize) the installed JRE 7, though path to bin folder modified (C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin here on XP)
Back to JRE 6 up 26
And it seems this new JRE 7 is problematic on higher levels for quite a few techies according to what I've read on the Web.

FatBastard reviewed v7 on Jul 30, 2011

I hate JAVA. I wish people would stop using it.

LakotaElf reviewed v7 on Jul 29, 2011

Had no problem at all, I uninstalled java 6 first before installing this as this installation as said below, does NOT uninstall java 6. For those of you who might be having problems, visit this page for for newest java applications, x32 and x64. http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp you need this software for all things to work correctly.

nvic reviewed v7 on Jul 29, 2011

It's Java...you need it for quite a bit these days.

One thing to note here though: JRE7 doesn't remove JRE6 during installation.

TROLL reviewed v6 Update 26 on Jun 10, 2011

this action is only valid for product that are currently installed

Input Overload reviewed v6 Update 26 on Jun 9, 2011

Installed without issue yesterday on 5 PC's. I don't particularly like having Java on any PC but unfortunately at times it's needed. So giving I’m a five for the fact it installed OK.

SoundMix reviewed v6 Update 25 on Apr 28, 2011

Basically unnecessary.

Input Overload reviewed v6 Update 25 on Apr 27, 2011

I had a problem installing this release on a decent lappy running XP that remains unresolved at the moment, no problems with 7 or Vista.

ericthexton reviewed v6 Update 24 on Apr 20, 2011

I also had the copy paste problem after upgrading to java 6u24.
I found the solution to this here >
http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,467
Kudos to that guy.

camlawnman reviewed v6 Update 24 on Feb 25, 2011

me and 2 other people i know have the exact same problem. cant copy paste links in java chat with update 24doesnt matter if its xp or vista. Works fast and well for me EXCEPT copy and paste in Java apps seems to be broken for me with 6u24, but was working with 6u23. I've tried it now on 3 different PCs, XP SP3 32 bit, Win 7 SP1 32 bit, Win 7 SP1 64 bit. In each case as soon as I revert to 6u23, copy and paste in Java apps is working again....

mike_diack reviewed v6 Update 24 on Feb 17, 2011

Works fast and well for me EXCEPT copy and paste in Java apps seems to be broken for me with 6u24, but was working with 6u23. I've tried it now on 3 different PCs, XP SP3 32 bit, Win 7 SP1 32 bit, Win 7 SP1 64 bit. In each case as soon as I revert to 6u23, copy and paste in Java apps is working again....

Can anyone else confirm/deny this apparent bug I've found?

Phat Esther reviewed v6 Update 23 on Jan 17, 2011

just error message
his action is only valid for products that are currently installed
no help from official homepage

Input Overload reviewed v6 Update 23 on Dec 8, 2010

Fast install, no problems, fit & forget it.

sn0wy82 reviewed v6 Update 22 on Oct 13, 2010

It does what it's supposed to do.

anomoly reviewed v6 Update 22 on Oct 12, 2010

1 for simply being a troll software which I DETEST
http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
Direct down for win
http://javadl.sun.com/we...d/AutoDL?BundleId=42732

Input Overload reviewed v6 Update 22 on Oct 12, 2010

No problems, web site link mentioned below now fixed.

nvic reviewed v6 Update 22 on Oct 12, 2010

Quality software as always.

Betanews needs to fix their site though. I clicked download and got stuck in an infinite redirect. Also, the filesize is only 15.6MB.

bopb99 reviewed v6 Update 21 on Jul 9, 2010

Very good runtime environment.
Makes a lot of applications possible without headaches.

That it doesn't come standard is only a sign that it works everywhere and is of high quality.
If you have a professional in some field, he's not going to come to you. (It's going to be the other way around.

soldier1st reviewed v6 Update 21 on Jul 9, 2010

Java is an awesome language though it may take more memory it is worth it.

Input Overload reviewed v6 Update 21 on Jul 8, 2010

No problems, seems a little faster. Fast download servers.

ChipChop reviewed v6 Update 21 on Jul 8, 2010

Yes, it's getting better and better, if they would stop supporting it it would be even better.

Betachecker reviewed v6 Update 20 on Apr 16, 2010

Believe or not, I live without it since it was not native in IE anymore

uzi reviewed v6 Update 20 on Apr 15, 2010

As I mentioned earlier, the importance of JAVA JRE is mainly in the fact that it has become a de-facto standard. The only difference between this version (20) and the former one (19), is that they fixed a critical security hole, which allowed any web site to get full access to your computer.

It is thus that if you have an earlier version of JAVA it is highly recommended to update it to this version.

us3r reviewed v6 Update 20 on Apr 15, 2010

Yeah, it's getting better and better. They need all-in-one JRE installation package for Windows including 32 bit & 64 bit versions as well as better autoupdate process.

beelzebub360 reviewed v6 Update 20 on Apr 15, 2010

I am very pleasantly surprised
Java really gets better and better
Good job!
Significantly faster than the last JRE,
every bit as stable.
Makes a huge performance difference

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 20 on Apr 15, 2010

Actually just uninstalled this two days ago. Here we go again!

Lsavagejt reviewed v6 Update 20 on Apr 15, 2010

This is an out of cycle patch addressing a critical vulnerability in Java Web Start.

Banquo reviewed v6 Update 19 on Mar 31, 2010

Time to update the publisher, it's now Oracle Java.

Input Overload reviewed v6 Update 19 on Mar 31, 2010

Galifray, you need to uninstall the previous Java before installing a new version or you will in time have heaps of Java's on your PC. Also after uninstalling it leaves a Java file in 'Program Files', & another in 'Users' (Vista) or elsewhere in other Windows. Remove that too.

konno reviewed v6 Update 19 on Mar 31, 2010

Uhum, like you would know about it.

I would belive these resources more then a yell of some YourNick.

http://langpop.com

http://duartes.org/gusta...mming-and-the-recession

FatBastard reviewed v6 Update 19 on Mar 30, 2010

Java is yesterday's news...

Galifray reviewed v6 Update 19 on Mar 30, 2010

Java is such a weird piece of software. I have JRE 17 and 18 installed, but the updater claims I have the latest version (so what is this 19 then?) And why do I have two copies of Java installed, shouldn't Java force earlier versions to uninstall??? Most programs do. No wonder Java gives me fits..

x-ray reviewed v6 Update 19 on Mar 30, 2010

changelog

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 19 on Mar 30, 2010

Installed fine here on XP-32 and 7-64 bit clients.

Phat Esther reviewed v6 Update 18 on Mar 27, 2010

Install aborted error 1714
all previous install fine.

Zoroaster reviewed v6 Update 18 on Jan 14, 2010

I'm giving it five stars because, as uzi, Sun JRE is essential nowadays, but also because its packaging and deployment have significantly improved compared to what they were at one time.

x-ray reviewed v6 Update 18 on Jan 14, 2010

why does this be a part of winndows update

uzi reviewed v6 Update 17 on Dec 7, 2009

It is like a drug. You may hate it but you will have hard time working without it, as it became a de-facto standard for too much code.

I will give it five stars not because it is a good software, but because it is essential, and with no compatible alternatives.

Galifray reviewed v6 Update 17 on Nov 6, 2009

If OpenOffice and my webmail app didn't require this, I wouldn't install it. Especially now that Java Quick Start is running as a service. So I have to modify services to stop it, as the Java control Panel app setting no longer works. So I cannot give this ever larger and ever more unnecessary program a good rating.

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v6 Update 17 on Nov 5, 2009

Silently installs JAVA update application which I hate to see on all of our corporate PCs.

That's plain wrong.

us3r reviewed v6 Update 17 on Nov 4, 2009

JavaTM SE 6
Update Release Notes

http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/6u17.html

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 17 on Nov 3, 2009

I like and use Open Office. But I also don't want Open Office support requests from various friends and family that don't want it or don't know how it got on their system. When you install one app, you expect updates to that app, and not a default checkbox for another app that adds to support costs and user frustration.

anomoly reviewed v6 Update 16 on Aug 11, 2009

All it asks is if u'd like to try open office. Hardly crapware, though I do use GoOO myself. Problem I see is the consistent reenabling of the updater/quick starter which (where am I?) never once ever updated and is reinstalled & enabled as an automatic service. This in itself IS pathetically rediculous. This sideways BS of buddying up with your isp and your login is getting boring. reminds me of mp3tag's portability and what it takes to remove all the paypal crap

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 16 on Aug 11, 2009

An insecure POS that prompts to install unrelated, crapware programs on every upgrade.

Stop the madness. We should not be getting prompts for crapware on every security release. And JAVARE's have thousands of them!

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 15 on Jul 28, 2009

JQS re-enables on every upgrade of the JRE, regardless of how you set the service. JQS is a buggy, memory/CPU sapping service than needs to be turned off by default.

johnusa reviewed v6 Update 14 on Jun 2, 2009

Something unusual and fishy has happened since this update 14 was released.
Sun has removed this new update from their servers soon after releasing it, and reverted back to the previous update 13 version.
There is absolutely no news or explanation for this action.
Why?
My only guess is that update 14 was buggy, and not ready for prime time.
If someone knows the reason, please post it here.

robertmc8 reviewed v6 Update 14 on May 30, 2009

Finaly works with Windows 7 Thanks Java :D I send them email about issue they fix right away thats great support woot! Now we need get Shockwave work with windows 7 does anyone know there email support?

craigun reviewed v6 Update 14 on May 29, 2009

Download and install went fine. No issues to report!

Zoroaster reviewed v6 Update 14 on May 29, 2009

@mjm01010101 > JQS is an option within the Java control panel, which can be easily disabled, no need to get angry.
As for JRE, installed nicely, n problem.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 14 on May 29, 2009

Java Quick Start is a buggy Service and needs to be removed.

Sun continually adds new features instead of fixing old ones.

I beg the United States Patent Office PAIR people to please, please get rid of java RE as a requirement for using your system. I hate this crap!

karlo reviewed v6 Update 13 on May 26, 2009

Everything works great!

Morningdove reviewed v6 Update 13 on Mar 27, 2009

In addition to the "updater and quick start cr@p", this version dumps JavaFX onto your system. On the final page of the installer you are rudely advised that you are now going to the Java website to have JavaFX downloaded and installed on your system. Since the installer asked for internet access on the first step of the installation it is difficult to avoid if you don't want it. This is covert; you need to have the choice. Fortunately internet access was denied since I didn't see a reason why this installer needed it in the first place.

If "I" ever decide JavaFX is needed, then "I" will choose to install. It is "my" system and "my" right to decide what is put on it, not Sun Microsystems'.

Incidentally, Windows Add/Remove programs only does what it is instructed to do by the program's uninstaller, therein lies the blame.

us3r reviewed v6 Update 13 on Mar 25, 2009

They should fix uninstaller for Windows which basically does not unistall anything. I don't need 10 outdated copies of JRE. Also there should be an option while installing to disable these silly processes like updater or quick start cr@p which is hoging cpu and wasting resoures for nothing. I gave it 3 because there are a few good apps out there written in this language.

Betachecker reviewed v6 Update 13 on Mar 25, 2009

Believe me or not, I live without it.

emanresU deriseD reviewed v6 Update 13 on Mar 24, 2009

I know you're not supposed to have to remove old JRE versions, but do it anyway. I've never had a problem with Java. But still, Java is slow, and it's just a pain in the a** to deal with.

grinch89 reviewed v6 Update 13 on Mar 24, 2009

Hmm,installed with no problem,never had a problem with Java.

Galifray reviewed v6 Update 13 on Mar 24, 2009

Got to say I'm loving update 13. It's so, so...
Not there. Seriously, It simply will not install anything. No crash, no error code, nothing. What a program.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 13 on Mar 24, 2009

Yep the java Quick Start is buggy and can consume 100% CPU. I disable immediately on systems I install on.

emanresU deriseD - There's no need to uninstall java anymore. The installer removes the previous version.

Morningdove reviewed v6 Update 12 on Feb 4, 2009

The last time I updated JRE it secretly placed a quick start program in my Firefox add-ons. To make matters worse it didn't include an uninstall button. Java starts fast enough when needed without the prestart add-on. I resent this covert behavior and would completely uninstall Java if it were not for that rare occasion when it is needed.

I don't want to go through the hassle of removing the quick start add-on again, so this update will not get installed, especially since I could find very little information on what's new in this version.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 12 on Feb 2, 2009

iggy - It's a problem with your setup. No issues with java for a while. I use on Server 2003/R2/Vista 32/64/XP32

iggy67 reviewed v6 Update 11 on Jan 26, 2009

This java update has a major bug in it. If you are running Vista you will get this error message every-time. "Error 25099: Unzipping core files failed"
Even after uninstalling all older versions of java. I even tried JavaRa
to uninstall it and I still get the error. I ran as Administrator and it didn't work.
I have plenty of hard-drive space 320GB. I'm not acquired a corrupt zip file.
All I can conclude is that there is a bug with the Beta JRE that only
manifests itself on Windows Server 2003 machines. You can not run any web page or program that requires java including some online virus scanners.
Please Sun Microsystems, Inc. fix this issue.

Betachecker reviewed v6 Update 11 on Dec 17, 2008

I live without it

Pkshadow reviewed v6 Update 11 on Dec 16, 2008

Does what it is suppose to do.
No install problems or after in my 2 systems nor in another that was not mine.
If your having browser problems then it's sorta obvious I would think to un-install the browser, clean up the registry and re-install the browser/s.
I would also think DirectX problems try November release and update if is a IE problem.
As for why this is on this page a week after release is beyond me and left to higher website authorities but it should have been pulled or put in news section rather than waste program space.

LakotaElf reviewed v6 Update 11 on Dec 16, 2008

This release and the one before it had problems, crashes all browsers quite often in fact, especially if looking at any cam or movie, etc. I have uninstall it and reinstalled it twice and still get the same error. It needs work, but you can not really do without it, I know of no alternative to this.

Esquire reviewed v6 Update 11 on Dec 16, 2008

Bug remains if installed on Vista: Java Control Panel applet does not retain any customization to settings.

and on a different note: why is Betanews posting this just now when it was released over a week ago?

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 11 on Dec 16, 2008

yes! No more uninstall needed for previous version!

no: Stupid random program included with JRE. When will bundling stop?

po4ko reviewed v6 Update 10 on Dec 9, 2008

Starting from version 6 Update 10, it is no longer needed to download a whole distribution package in order to update to a newer version.

If you have JRE 6U10, just go to Control Panel->Java->Update and it will be updated to JRE 6U11 with less than 1Mb download.

Also, this kind of update procedure will no longer result in multiple JRE version being stacked up in your system.

rseiler reviewed v6 Update 10 on Oct 15, 2008

Installer error (25099) for me as well on Vista and XP. I've installed these updates countless times before and have never seen this happen.

Something's changed, since it was always possible before to install on top of the previous version. Now it's not--or it's a bug, hard to tell.

Yakumo reviewed v6 Update 10 on Oct 15, 2008

Uninstall fully before installing final, always the best way to go.

Best version of Java so far, and best installers and installers, no reboots required as long as you don't have any Java apps or web browsers open when you run them.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 10 on Oct 15, 2008

Works fine in my 34 seconds worth of testing.

AlphaBetaGamma reviewed v6 Update 10 on Oct 15, 2008

Doesn't work for me when upgrading from RC2. I get an install error on both WinXP and Vista.

Diam0nd reviewed v6 Update 10 RC1 on Sep 15, 2008

There's already RC2 available.

http://java.sun.com/java...rcDownload.jsp#6u10JREs

McAleck reviewed v6 Update 10 RC1 on Sep 14, 2008

23 MB to NOT optionally install additional languages? what?

osric reviewed v6 Update 10 RC1 on Aug 15, 2008

Well now that java is open source, you can expect lots of bug fixes.

Bull reviewed v6 Update 10 RC1 on Aug 15, 2008

As slow as ever....

jcunews reviewed v6 Update 10 RC1 on Aug 15, 2008

Added this, added that. Good if you have lots or RAM. But for those who don't, it's a RAM hogger even when running a simple sample, text based "Hello world!" Java application.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 10 RC1 on Aug 14, 2008

Fixes that should have been in java... oh... say 4 years ago?

If I didn't need it for work I never would consider this POS software.

iLLz reviewed v6 Update 10 RC1 on Aug 14, 2008

To Jaimee...

Nowhere on there site does this say it was released on August 14th... It clearly states on the RC1 download page it was July 21, 2008 it is even shown that in the file name directly from Sun Microsystems.

jamie198402 reviewed v6 Update 10 RC1 on Aug 14, 2008

good to see a build update but why does this say released July when on the homepage it has 14th August? is this a old build?

The MAZZTer reviewed v6 Update 10 Beta on May 1, 2008

Both this installer and the older build available on Java's website is bad. Fails with error 25099, "Unzipping core files failed", which isn't documented anywhere on the site.

Yakumo reviewed v6 Update 10 Beta on May 1, 2008

why not b22?: because b10 is the one sun is pushing to the public - http://java.sun.com/deve...ase/java6u10/index.html

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 10 Beta on Apr 30, 2008

Just an FYI... this is a massive update to the java runtime. Test this diligently before putting into production.

yokozuna reviewed v6 Update 10 Beta on Apr 30, 2008

Java ain't bad at all. In the matter of fact I like the runtime. Thank to it many fine apps like JaRef or RSSOwl is able to run.

However, one thing is mysterious. Why all portals publish JRE 1.60_10 build 12 if there is
jre-6u10-beta-bin-b22-windows-i586-p-16_apr_2008.exe file available from the website of Sun?

Diam0nd reviewed v6 Update 10 Beta on Apr 30, 2008

Well, jave is java :) It sucks, but we need it :|

And of course nevermind ignorant people like mjm01010101. Often updates is a PLUS, not a con of a program, since
1. It shows that the program is being developed and taken care of
2. They add features and fix bugs
3. NOBODY is require to update, if you dont like the "hassle", dont update. Simple as that

tbresson reviewed v6 Update 5 on Mar 7, 2008

http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

wognum reviewed v6 Update 5 on Mar 5, 2008

Thx benyahuda

benyahuda reviewed v6 Update 5 on Mar 5, 2008

If you end up at a page asking you to sign in or register, that page will not lead you to this update.

Try this url instead. It takes you directly to the updates download page.

http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 5 on Mar 5, 2008

Changes:
http://java.sun.com/java...eleaseNotes.html#160_05

A 4 because this app is updated too often. Hassle.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 4 on Jan 12, 2008

It's on there now...
Changes here:
http://java.sun.com/java...eleaseNotes.html#160_04

ThumperZ1 reviewed v6 Update 4 on Jan 10, 2008

Sun had v4 up on it's site, then took it down and put v3 back up.

b0mmel reviewed v6 Update 4 on Jan 10, 2008

This file was signed on December 14, 2007. Are you sure it's the final update? Suns site shows u3 to be the current one as well.

Philidor reviewed v6 Update 3 on Oct 7, 2007

When will Sun include an uninstaller for superceded versions with the install? Each version is more than 100MB, and people who don't know they have to remove prior versions can be wasting a significant amount of space.

Also, the install includes more than one Opt-out for products from Google et al. Small point, but such choices should be Opt-in.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 3 on Oct 3, 2007

I like how the "Java SE What's New" page hasn't been updated since July. GG Sun.

Shadowkahn reviewed v6 Update 3 on Oct 3, 2007

Seems to be working fine, and really this is not a beta release - it is official. You can find it on the Java SE download page, and even Java.com reports that this is the latest Java build: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

pozgayboi reviewed v6 Update 3 on Oct 3, 2007

Don't want to stir shyt up, But, I was obviously stating that it was a beta and not showing up on the site (www.java.com/en). The "1" score is the lowest I could go and is required to post. Don't know u betta axe somebody.

Paul Skinner reviewed v6 Update 3 on Oct 3, 2007

@pozg**boi:

No need to rate it a 1 if you haven't bothered to find out if it's a beta or not.

It is a final version as it is posted here:

http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

This is always the most accurate place to find the newest version of Java available.

The main java site takes forever to update to the newest version number.

P.S. This version works perfectly for me.

Diam0nd reviewed v6 Update 3 on Oct 3, 2007

Worls flawlessly for me. Opera > *

speedwaystar reviewed v6 Update 2 on Oct 3, 2007

JRE 6 Update 3 is now out via autoupdate

jspratjr reviewed v6 Update 2 on Jul 6, 2007

Crashes Opera 9.22 when using radar loop from noaa.gov - no problems with 1.5_11.

Argai reviewed v6 Update 2 on Jul 5, 2007

If oyu go to this page you'll see it's a final version.

BTW I'm using both Java 1.5 and 1.6 and that works just perfectly. 1.5 works better with Firefox 3 en Opera 9 works better with 1.6.

pozgayboi reviewed v6 Update 2 on Jul 5, 2007

Seems when I go to www.java.com, there is no update past JRE 6 update 1. I'm not sure if this has not passed the beta stage or not.

MichaelDHam reviewed v6 Update 2 on Jul 5, 2007

Seems I had to revert to Update 1 as everytime I tryed to start Internet Explorer 7 with Update 2 it automatically shutdown the browser everytime! Anyone out there have that problem,and/or know how to fix this problem?

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 2 on Jul 5, 2007

I've had gobs of issues with .net. Dependencies, security issues, slow apps (the new .net version of HP Jetadmin is very frikkin slick, but it's slow as molasses to start up, also.) I adore paint.net, but where are the apps promised three years ago? I'm thinking end-user here, not developer.

Java v 6 is the best yet. That ain't saying much. The idea that you have a platform independent RE is silly if you must update that client install (for security/features) every 3 months.

MichaelDHam (above)
log out, log back in, go to c:\documents and settings\username\application data\ and move the sun directory to another location. Then restart IE.

RaGhul reviewed v6 Update 1 on Apr 20, 2007

Honestly, I'm a bigger fan of the .NET Framework (even though it's Microsoft). I have many more apps that require .NET than Java. (And many of them are VERY useful: Paint.NET, nLite, Torrent Harvester, jcarle's Windows Updater, etc...)

Truth be told, I only use Java for two things:
Cabos, and a handful of webpages.

Yes, it's a must in today's PC world. That's a fact.

I personally haven't had any noticeable compatibility problems. The new package seems to install more cleanly as well. But like I said, I don't use it as much.

I've read about Java6 problems on many forums, and they DO need to fix 'em. Backwards compatibility is a HUGE pain... Sun Microsystems, welcome to Microsoft's world!!

saadsaleem reviewed v6 Update 1 on Apr 11, 2007

I had to replace jvm.dll from jre 1.5._11 version of JRE to make MATLAB display text in "help navigator". I believe that Sun really needs to see if they are not deprecating any functionality of a previous JRE when optimizing their JREs.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 Update 1 on Apr 11, 2007

This version broke compatibility with the USPTO's online filing.

After upgrading machines, we had to delete users' appdata\sun directory before it would work.

maria9961999 reviewed v6 Update 1 on Mar 31, 2007

i think landfish or leena_zz or sajjansinghania do not mean to describe Java SE Runtime Environment (JRE) as a bad software. Java is a must to stay alive in todays computer world more so internet and Sun beats all others in Java.

i agree with the above three for following reasons:

1. Sun didnt provide FileForum with downloadable copy at their site, instead requests for download are directed to Sun site.

2. Even when you are forced to go to Sun site, you are tortured with unfriendly screens, useless options, unfriendly language, ununderstandable options.

3. Unless Cooler (see below) provided link, it is impossible to fetch download under such difficult conditions in Sun site.

4. Instead of blaming doctorsmith, because there are many who think they know it all others none, I would request Sun, who are pioneers in Java, to consider making users life a bit more easy. I think they are very competent to do this.

Best software and a must for Computer user.

landfish reviewed v6 Update 1 on Mar 30, 2007

doctorsmith, you, you, sun guy you, don't you realize how difficult it is to download java, why I had to click my mouse 3 times before I could download this. Man 3 mouse clicks is way beyond me ......... chuckle chuckle.

leena_zz reviewed v6 Update 1 on Mar 30, 2007

doctorsmith looks more like either a sun guy or a self proclaimed expert doesnt care for average users

doctorsmith reviewed v6 Update 1 on Mar 30, 2007

@ sajjansinghania, if you think seriously that to download this is tricky you need to give up computers and go back to pencil and paper.

rseiler reviewed v6 Update 1 on Mar 30, 2007

Person-before-last, you must be looking at the wrong one. Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6u1 is about 13MB. The latest update for v5 is about 15MB.

sajjansinghania reviewed v6 Update 1 on Mar 30, 2007

i do not understand why sun has to be so tricky in downloads. if they do not want everyone to use sun java they defeat their own cause. they must make downloads user friendly.

InSuboRdiNaTioN reviewed v6 Update 1 on Mar 30, 2007

Why on earth is the install size up 40megs for this update? The reduced size of JRE 6 was a welcome addition, but now it's even bigger than JRE 5!

Update: rseiler- If you read carefully, you'll notice I said INSTALL size. Not download size.

Cooler reviewed v6 Update 1 on Mar 30, 2007

No , You don't have to create Sun account. Here is the link:

http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

Just scroll down to Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6u1 and DOWNLOAD :)

Runs fast and stable.

horsecharles reviewed v6 Update 1 on Mar 30, 2007

Need a Sun account to download this one.....

saadsaleem reviewed v6 on Feb 11, 2007

Its performance is really good, but it doesn't work well with Matlab "Help browser" (in R2006b). I believe that making something faster doesn't mean that older applications shouldn't work. :(

Deedstyger reviewed v6 on Dec 14, 2006

is it faster than 6.0 beta 2?

i ll install according to that.

TGB72 reviewed v6 on Dec 13, 2006

Is faster and more stable than previous versions but the uninstall don't work rightly since only allow to modify the component but not to remove the entire application. I tried from add/remove in control panel and also running the installer, in both cases with the same problem, If anyone knows how to remove the app plase let me know it.

ds0934 reviewed v6 on Dec 12, 2006

Noticably faster loading than any prior versions I've used. Very nice!

mjm01010101 reviewed v6 on Dec 12, 2006

Agree with the others. we only had to put up with 5+ years of crap clients to get this.

Good work Sun!

gate1975mlm reviewed v6 on Dec 12, 2006

I agree version 6 is much faster! :)

yokozuna reviewed v6 Release Candidate on Nov 15, 2006

This version is very fast, much faster than JRE 1.50_10 (aka 5.10). I tested both versions with JabRef and Spamato 4 Thunderbird. The difference of speed is very visible.

Tene reviewed v6 Release Candidate on Nov 15, 2006

A great improvement over 5.* in both execution speed and size.

It doesn't hurt that it's under the GPL now either, and embodies Rhino. ;)

InSuboRdiNaTioN reviewed v6 Release Candidate on Nov 15, 2006

Install size has been cut by 30MB from version 5, which is a welcome change.
I don't run many java apps, but so far things are rock solid.

digital_phantom reviewed v6 Beta 2 on Jun 28, 2006

I tried this and it actually breaks some of the java-based applications I have installed.

Don Juan reviewed v6 Beta 2 on Jun 25, 2006

Significantly faster than JRE 5, every bit as stable. Makes a huge performance difference in OpenOffice.org.

photonboy reviewed v6 Beta 2 on Jun 22, 2006

Works awesome in Vista. Like someone else said, this is the solution if you are running java apps like Azureus and don't want to keep losing your Aero Glass interface.

I don't know if it's worth a 5, but I don't have any issues that I'm aware of so I can't penalize it. I'm just wondering if Java is going to last or whether the .NET or some other Vista feature will make it obsolete? (I only use it to run Azureus anyway)

The MAZZTer reviewed v6 Beta 2 on Jun 21, 2006

Mustang is also for Windows Vista.

Infact, I recommend using it on Vista, as Java applications will be able to run under Aero Glass (running with older Java builds results in Glass deactivating until Java quits).

I assume that feature made it into this beta (it wasn't in beta 1), but if not downloading the latest nightly build will have it.

aokromes reviewed v6 Beta 2 on Jun 21, 2006

Easy, because this is BETAnews, not FINALnews.

RoSmecher reviewed v6 Beta on Jun 7, 2006

you know they have 5.0 Update 7 available. i don't see why betanews already jumped to beta for version 6 when they are still updating 5.0 versions.

bunghole reviewed v6 Beta on May 27, 2006

My main gripe is that the fonts are too small. I run 1600x1200 res and trying to play games at Yahoo or such is a pain. At least the old MS version has readable fonts.

Other than that, it's ok. A few security holes here and there but it's the only game in town now so there's not much that can be done choice-wise.

PJPoon reviewed v6 Beta on Feb 16, 2006

Note that this is based off of a 3 month old build.

http://blogs.sun.com/rol...ry=and_why_in_the_world

jonspencerbx reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Feb 11, 2006

Haven't had any problems with this one. Runs smooth.

@ RADicalSatDude, opera is not a Java program. Opera can use the Java plugin to run java applets in websites, but that's about it.

RADicalSatDude reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 3, 2005

This crap as some misguided souls call it, runs extremly well coded apps like Opera, Azureus and LimeWire.

Most of the time I'm running only these three programs.

Granted there update mechanism needs serious rework.

avdven reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 2, 2005

It's really interesting how so many people comment on Java as a language when in reality they're discussing JavaScript and webpages that use it. Java and JavaScript are two completely different beasts. Yes, they are both based upon the Java programmng language but have very different uses. I have developed across many platforms with a variety of languages and still find Java to be one of the best, especially when developing for more than one platform. I am personally not a fan of Java applets (for many of the reasons stated, especially speed), but I (as well as people I've developed for in the past) use the J2RE to run various Java-based applications. There's a lot more to Java than most of you realize and until you get some programming experience (and learn the difference between a truly object-oriented programming language and imperative or hybrid languages such as C and C++) you have no right to attack Java as a whole.

horsecharles reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 1, 2005

This version's subpar-- takes several tries, some of which stall the system, before the install takes, control panel icon crashes, when is it going to uninstall previous versions instead of accumulating them on one's system, how about a smaller upgrade-only package, plus an auto-updater, & a dedicated website so as not to get lost in the convoluted Sun jungle? We've only been asking for several years now, maybe someday..........

yagood reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 1, 2005

"Java shouldn't be considered as a serious programming language, it was designed to cut corners which we all know you can't do in the real world." - LOL, you "experts" really should learn something before talking about it.

GimieGimieGimie reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 1, 2005

I also agree with mjm01010101's comments.

Java shouldn't be considered as a serious programming language, it was designed to cut corners which we all know you can't do in the real world.

EarlyMorningHours reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 1, 2005

I wouldn't even bother with this crap if it weren't for Cisco and HP hardware that I need to access.

guti reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 1, 2005

Same opinion as mjm01010101.

mjm01010101 reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 1, 2005

I don't know if it's the manufacturer's of embedded devices, like HP jetdirect and HP and cisco Switching gear, or Sun's java, but in 5 years of using Java I've yet to see:
1. Improvements in speed to access java applets.
2. Improvements in stability to access java applets.

Now I realize many of you play java games on your cells and you plays games online with java and it works fine, but my experience in the field shows that the java platform is just craptastically written. It may be platform independent but then why does it have 6+ updates a year for fixing bugs to it's client? Doesn't this negate the benefits?

Some of the behaviors are also grating, like putting that popup icon in the taskbar *every* time, and how it doesn't give you the option to uninstall the previous version. How it will throw error messages with logfiles on the desktop of users, accumulating over time.

In general, I think the Java dream has not turned out very well.

Jose reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 1, 2005

By the way...

The "Update" is missleading, everytime you install an JRE Update it does a complete install.
check: c:/Program Files/java
To save some diskspace you can remove the old versions over system>software

UTAKER reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 1, 2005

one app runs on all, thats the only positive part of it
otherwise it's slow and useless
where is the changelog for this update?

matt2971 reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 1, 2005

java's abilities are great, but it's performance is poor. Say what you like about Microsoft, when we all used VM, at least it was quick ;-)

I'm a sysadmin, and I don't really understand why companies are moving away from windows apps to manage their software, and towards web based java apps - they look and feel the same - which sure, is really clever and obtains operability between different platforms, but they are just SLOW SLOW SLOW - even on the fastest hardware.

ghammer reviewed v5.0 Update 6 on Dec 1, 2005

Memory hungry, piggishly slow.
Only a true fanatic would find good with Java or apps that run within it.

Shouldn't Sun go out of business soon? They have outlived whatever purpose they once may have had.

husky87 reviewed v5.0 Update 5 on Oct 8, 2005

java consumes far to much memory i wish sun would somehow optimise it :)

Shaga reviewed v5.0 Update 5 on Sep 17, 2005

Windows Offline Installation, Multi-language

Shorcut link:
http://tinyurl.com/9loa6

The Original link:
http://192.18.97.222/ECo...0_05-windows-i586-p.exe

xrayspex reviewed v5.0 Update 5 on Sep 16, 2005

Working fast and smooth in both IE and Firefox.

rotjong reviewed v5.0 Update 5 on Sep 16, 2005

The new Java IS on the website. Go to http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp and scroll down. It's right there. I see no differences either good or bad through my use so far. It's been 3 months since Update 4 was released.

Zygi reviewed v5.0 Update 5 on Sep 16, 2005

I need this mainly for Azureus, thats all !!!

Update: Dead link, no new java on sun website...
That only shows that none of you rating it, didn't even bother to download and test..... Yeah lets bash everything we hate - codec packs, java, microsoft .net and all others that isn't free... :-/
Losers get a life, go outside, play ball or run around park. I'm giving it 1 because of broken link, when there will be real update 5, i'll change my vote.

Edit: Thanks rotjong for a link, in the main section, manual download there is still 1.5 update4.

donpacman reviewed v5.0 Update 5 on Sep 16, 2005

Java is bloatware!

DarkMana reviewed v5.0 Update 5 on Sep 15, 2005

gah.. i wish poeople quit using jaba it for what doing not to good. learn to use teh computer right, stupids.

arossetti reviewed v5.0 Update 5 on Sep 15, 2005

Well, it beats JVM... Then again, you can't get JVM anymore, so I guess it has to.

*YAWN*

mjm01010101 reviewed v5.0 Update 5 on Sep 15, 2005

Get your monthly update here. enterprises shudder.

AlphaBetaGamma reviewed v5.0 Update 5 on Sep 15, 2005

I uninstalled Update 4 first and installed Update 5. Maybe it is my imagination, but browsing with Firefox 1.06 seem smoother, and I don't see any hangups.

mfarmilo reviewed v5.0 Update 4 on Jun 24, 2005

This link doesn't work right - takes you to a login / registration page. I went back to the Sun downloads page, then located it from there.

Program seems fine once you get it.

xrayspex reviewed v5.0 Update 4 on Jun 24, 2005

Fast and smooth here. No trouble at all installing.

donpacman reviewed v5.0 Update 4 on Jun 24, 2005

Memory leaks, unstable and just slow.

"Time to update the code"

mutara reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on May 3, 2005

What shall I say: The best programs are the ones that work silently in the background and doing their job without needing the attention of the user. I'm simply used to having it and don't want to be without it anymore. Or does anyone has an alternative?

utomo reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on May 3, 2005

Need to clean many bugs.
Need to change the License type, so many people can distribute this. instead of must download it

CyberHobo reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on May 2, 2005

Update works fine here. Slow system? Overclock.

robertguda reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on Apr 30, 2005

java...slow to install ? writing for java when saying something good about it ? what is this ? a review ? I dont write for java and I hardly use it besides the web applets it provides...maybe its my machine or maybe its my karma ? installs without a glitch and never slowed down my computer or its functioning...so maybe I am just lucky ? or maybe one should be a bit more tolerant regarding issues one does'nt like ? seems pretty stupid to assume all those thousands of men and women dedicating their time to java being on a wasted trip eh ?

cooldude7273 reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on Apr 29, 2005

Exactly what avdven said...
And be sure to uninstall old versions!

avdven reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on Apr 29, 2005

DarkMana:
"Oh dear God no.... Java is a huge piece of garbage; and yeah, it takes AGES to load properly in browsers and thats just about the only place it pops its ugly, greasy little head. Oh and those who praise it so much; lemme guess; you get paid to write in Java... good job defending it while completely discounting all the cons of this atrocious waste of CPU time. Next time you want to write something, just use C like a real man."

Wow. You really don't program much do you. If you did, you'd realize that Java does much more than just web applets. While that may be the only place you see it, I have developed a number of enterprise applications in Java simply because it is the only language that works across multiple platforms (*nix, Windows and OS X) without having to re-write the programs. I also write in mutliple other languages, including C++ (C is too outdated), C#, VB.NET, among others, but Java is the only one I use when having to develop for mutliple platforms. Also, your comment about C doesn't even apply to your argument because you can't develop web applets (which is what you say is the only thing Java is good for) in C.

While I'm personally not too big on Java Applets, but I've never had a problem with them. For those who complain that Java runs slow in their browsers, I use both Opera and IE on multiple computers (from 800 MHz laptops to to a dual 3.6 GHz Xeon workstation) and have no problems with speed on any of the systems, including the slower ones. Maybe you should check your system configurations and uninstall all those damn apps you have running in the background taking up most of your memory and swap file.

DarkMana reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on Apr 29, 2005

Oh dear God no.... Java is a huge piece of garbage; and yeah, it takes AGES to load properly in browsers and thats just about the only place it pops its ugly, greasy little head. Oh and those who praise it so much; lemme guess; you get paid to write in Java... good job defending it while completely discounting all the cons of this atrocious waste of CPU time. Next time you want to write something, just use C like a real man.

wincement reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on Apr 29, 2005

theheff:
"As cool as java is, there's no reason for it to run as poorly as it does. I don't understand why firefox/IE nearly freezes whenever java loads, all on different computers I've tried. Java is outdated and needs to fade out soon."

You clearly have no programming experience whatsoever. Java isn't just for browser plugins. Anyone will tell you that Java is just about THE MOST stable OOP language. In order to be that stable though, it has to check and handle a lot of excpetions.

C and/or C++ are much faster, but a programmer can blow your leg off if they miss just one thing. It's all about which aspect of performance is most important: speed or stability. Both have their places, which is why we still have the different languages.

skonrad reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on Apr 29, 2005

People don't seem to get it, this is not a release, it's an update that addresses mostly bugfixes and issues that did not make it into the final release anymore.

When your Java runs fine and you have no problems with it, then you don't need to install this update, as you won't have any benefit from it. On the other hand, people dealing wit a specific bug in Java are more than grateful when it finally gets fixed.

Everybody who ever developed software, especially something like Java that is used by a lot of people to build applications on, knows that it is inevitable to have bugs. I am very happy with the way Sun handles and fixes it, releasing updated version of the old JVM while progressing towards a new one.

mjm01010101 reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on Apr 29, 2005

Sorry. One release a year, then I'm happy.

You guys that criticize me don't even address my points. Good work!

This version is incompatible (again, earlier versions have worked, even older versions have not worked,) with many of HP's management tools. For example, HP webjetadmin, out on the market a good 9 months, crashes with this version of the VM.

# EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x77f82097, pid=6448, tid=6620

THANKS SUN!

xrayspex reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on Apr 29, 2005

Update 3 is working smooth as silk here. Installation was flawless.
Fast and speedy..Sun Java keeps getting beter and better :)

theheff reviewed v5.0 Update 3 on Apr 29, 2005

As cool as java is, there's no reason for it to run as poorly as it does. I don't understand why firefox/IE nearly freezes whenever java loads, all on different computers I've tried. Java is outdated and needs to fade out soon.

It's not just a problem on my computer.. I have a fresh XP SP2 installation on a new machine. Why is it 15MB?? It just seems very innefficient to me, that's all.

KAK reviewed v5.0 Update 2 on Mar 15, 2005

nice work from © SUN-MicroSystems

Run now 100 % P E R F E C T

tested on

Windows 2000 SP-4
Windows XP Professional SP2
Windows XP Media Center 2005

Best Regards °_°

yokozuna reviewed v5.0 Update 2 on Mar 15, 2005

I am very pleasantly surprised by SUN. Java really gets better and better. Good job!

Caleb reviewed v5.0 Update 2 on Mar 15, 2005

mjm01010101 you are a complete retard.

GoodThings2Life reviewed v5.0 Update 2 on Mar 14, 2005

They complain because they have nothing else to complain about... if it weren't for the updates, they'd complain about the bugs and security holes.

This product does its job and has several bug fixes and security updates. Good product!

Mike162005 reviewed v5.0 Update 2 on Mar 14, 2005

I can't see why people complain about updates??

That's the whole damn point, to fix things.

If you like old things, so be it, let the rest of us be safe.

rotjong reviewed v5.0 Update 2 on Mar 14, 2005

I'm glad to see another update. SUN is dedicated to Java. I don't see how anyone can complain about SUN released updates for Java. Microsoft JVM was a bas****ized version of Java and MS was slow to release security updates let alone add any functionality whatsoever. It was total junk. Now we have .NET framework which is better than MS JVM. It's been updated as well since it's release. Should we badmouth MS because they released updates to the .NET framework. That's a lame argument to say the very least. SUN is doing their job by releasing an update. I'm stunned to see someone bash SUN for this yet give props to Microsoft.

mjm01010101 reviewed v5.0 Update 2 on Mar 14, 2005

Too many releases still. I've lost a lot of confidence on a VM that was supposed to negate the need for software updates on local clients. What is the advantage/point of JAVA if you must just update the clients every 2 freakin' months??! And now it's got gobs of security issues that we must deal with.

Sick of it. I want a stable client and I want it tested up the wazoo.

/me considers disabling all java across our WAN.

Some other flaws:
1. Often will require a reboot. No reason given, you can have two identical clients configured, and one will want a reboot after installing a new client.
2. Doesn't remove older clients that are installed. If newer versions are released to address security vulnerabilities, why aren't older versions removed? a huge security problem. You can have 3+ java clients installed, and vulns from any of them can be used.
3. Massive security problems in previous versions. Java actually held up the release of firefox 1.0.1 because they wanted to debate making the newest version of java mandatory.
4. Bloatware: 117 megs EACH release. Fine for home users, but the msi and transforms must take into account changes so you have a very difficult time rolling this out without heavy testing in a corporate environment.
5. Doesn't respect my preferences. if you install a new client after you've told it you don't want to be notified of new versions, it ignores your preferences. Same goes for the annoying tray icon.

skonrad reviewed v5.0 Update 2 on Mar 14, 2005

Some people really don't know what they are talking about. Sun does what they are supposed to do, they fix bugs that arose after publishing the final release. No new features, no major changes, just bugfixes. If you use a previous JRE and have no problems, then stick to it. Like in the last update, most changes are more interesting to developers than users.

MS abandoned Java because they did not like a technology that does not belong to them. The MS Java VM that people installed with their XP (no SP) is the buggiest thing ever and also not supported by MS anymore. MS is pushing now C#, which is similar to Java in many respects and optimized towards Microsoft platforms, while Java remains platform independent. MS incoporated a lot of things into .NET that they learned from their initial Java experiences. Java and C# are definitely the future, so people better get used to the .NET framework and the Java VM.

ds0934 reviewed v5.0 Update 2 on Mar 14, 2005

Yes, some of us like to complain. Without complainers, there wouldn't be software. Why? Because we complained about hardware, and before that, stone tablets. If new cars came out every week, people would get sick of hearing about them. Same with software. Quarterly would be nice, but monthly? Geez.

Metshrine reviewed v5.0 Update 2 on Mar 14, 2005

MS Abandoned their java platform because of sun, and sun's JRE is the ONLY other java runtime environment that exists. They really need to iron out the incompatibilities in 5.0 because its broken alot of the sites i use at work.

pyridox reviewed v5.0 Update 2 on Mar 14, 2005

Microsoft abandoned their version of Java. Sun Java is an alternative. You need Java to view a lot of web pages. A lot of websites where you purchase stuff, requires Java enabled.

GeneralLeoFF reviewed v5.0 Update 1 on Feb 8, 2005

Well Java does suck but it has it's uses :)

3 is a neutral score and I give Java a neutral score cuz it's the kind of thing you kinda need to install but as a user you may not directly interact with it. I mean it's not like it's a game or a word processor or media player. It's Java :)

MMPD reviewed v5.0 Update 1 on Dec 23, 2004

Decent, all in all Microsoft Java is faster even if it is a bit more unsecure/buggy.

AlanS2001 reviewed v5.0 Update 1 on Dec 23, 2004

Does what is supposed to. More secure than M$'s version. What else can you ask for?

brotherS reviewed v5.0 on Dec 23, 2004

No complaints!

bunghole reviewed v5.0 on Oct 28, 2004

slow and buggy. tries to take over IE. crappy web start "features". unfortunately I have to use it if I want java in opera. its too bad since MS's version is a lot better.

robmanic44 reviewed v5.0 on Oct 3, 2004

I have no complaints. Thus far it has performed flawlessly.

zatoichi reviewed v5.0 on Oct 2, 2004

Sun did a really good job on this one.

Shadow Wing reviewed v5.0 on Oct 2, 2004

It's been working flawlessly since I installed it yesterday. I visit sites that use Java for ticker-type news and score updates, so if something were not right, I would see it right away.

Good job Sun on the new Java.

allsiante reviewed v5.0 on Oct 2, 2004

To sn0wflake: that has to be more than their fault, some of us never had trouble finding what we want on their pages :P

On J2SE5: works like a charm, no trouble so far. Hope they put in just as much effort in improving Java though, as they did in the past.

Win2kPro reviewed v5.0 on Oct 1, 2004

o this is nice love it works betta then the old version well for me it dose lol :)

harrisben reviewed v5.0 on Oct 1, 2004

It is no fault of Java that HP have bound their software to a specific release of Java, although this is increasingly common for anything Java.

sn0wflake reviewed v5.0 on Oct 1, 2004

To allsiante: Visiting www.java.com doesn't prompt me to install the latest Java edition. Browsing the webpage listed on the Betanews page directs me to a confusing webpage with something like five editions of Java. Which one should I choose?!? For now I'll just go with the 1.4.2 edition until Sun makes it easy. No reason to waste time when all my apps work anyway.

mjm01010101 reviewed v5.0 on Oct 1, 2004

This version of the JRE is incompatible with HP's Jetdirect printer management software, and I had to revert back to the earlier version. I'm sorry but that is horrible. You should never break compatibility, sun, as the WHOLE POINT of JAVA is compatibility!

voloda reviewed v5.0 on Oct 1, 2004

Why do you people give bad ratings because of screewed up version number of the product ??? This is so wrong, JAVA Platform Rocks :) and I dont really care how they call it.

donpacman reviewed v5.0 on Oct 1, 2004

"we don't get fooled again" :))

Zulithe reviewed v5.0 on Oct 1, 2004

To all wondering. Java 1.5 is the same thing as 5.0 1.5 is the internal version number but 5.0 is the official version (don't ask me why Sun has all these very strange versioning problems, since also these are all considered "Java2") Anyway, Java 5.0 is the best Java yet, and also runs a tad faster, it is worth the upgrade ESPECIALLY if you use programs made in Java (Azureus comes to mind)

RaveN-FH- reviewed v5.0 on Oct 1, 2004

Does anybody know why they changed it from J2SE 1.5 to J2SE 5.0? It's really confusing to jump ahead 3.5 versions.

Pizda reviewed v5.0 RC on Sep 9, 2004

guti:

Heck, even faster than binary! ;)

mjm01010101 reviewed v5.0 RC on Sep 4, 2004

Sun needs to slow down the release of these to 1-2 a year, MAX, and focus on quality control. As a sysadmin I cannot afford to roll these out and take time to test every 2-3 months. The compatibility between previous versions and newer java apps is horrible as is the compatibility between newer apps and older clients. This is the antithesis to java goals.

guti reviewed v5.0 RC on Sep 4, 2004

Jaja Caleb.

Probably it is even faster than assembly language!

:-)

zatoichi reviewed v5.0 RC on Sep 4, 2004

It is obvious that ghammer hasn't a clue when it comes to Java. JDK1.5 is faster and had had some very nice features added to the language. Sun is also including some very nice utility programs with the JDK. I think competition with MS is a good thing and Java is showing it. Sun even accepted a "bug" to remove deprecated items to remove the cruft. Very cool. Good job Sun.

ghammer reviewed v5.0 RC on Sep 4, 2004

Java, and in particular Sun's java suck. Slow, buggy, a neat toy for MS haters who would praise interpreted BASIC as long as it did not come from Redmond. Benchmarks? Duh! I actually run things here and Java suck rocks. When I decide I want to run benchmarks I may give it another look.

Caleb reviewed v5.0 RC on Sep 4, 2004

Java has been proven to be much faster than C++.
But since by default it is installed as Client, the Client is slower.
The server on the other hand is really fast, but it takes more memory (and a bit larger startup times)

Java rocks!

CyberInferno reviewed v5.0 RC on Sep 4, 2004

It's a bit slower than Microsoft's (although I don't know why), but it's cross-browser and cross-OS compatible. What other software can be compiled on one machine and run on any platform? C++ may be portable to other OS's, but you can't take one compiled file and distribute it to multiple OS's. That's the beauty of Java. The .jar file will work as long as java is installed. No need to recompile.

Anyway, I give it a 4 because it's a tad slow. Other than that, it's a solid coding language.

Here's a download link for those of you who don't want to sign up for anything: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp

jrepin reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 2 on Jun 6, 2004

I like Java a lot. I don't think that apps written in it are slow. They seam just as fast as apps written in Object Pascal or C++. And this new version also brings support for 64-bit OSes optimized for AMD64 and it is really fast there. Als this new beta has for the first time hardware acceleration of 2D function using OpenGL and your fast 3D graphics card. Just awsome.

agent2killa reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 2 on Jun 6, 2004

Whoa..totally agree with cosmotic.Java rocks!

cosmotic reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 24, 2004

Benchmarks don't lie, java is faster than c++. How can you say its not? In almost every case, java is faster than c++ and everything else. Java optimizes the bytecode AS ITS RUN... ALL THE TIME!!! GOD!!! GO LOOK AT THE BENCHMARKS BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING!
http://www.kano.net/javabench/

blackpages reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 6, 2004

the most compatible reliable java

thexfile reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 6, 2004

The fact is Microsoft is ran on most machines and SUN is putting out a product that runs slow on those machines.
SUN can't sue every PC user to change to something that will run Java faster...that's called bad business.

guti reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 5, 2004

softssa, Opera, Mozilla, and OpenOffice are not written in Java, althought they can use it as a feature extension!

EViL3 reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 5, 2004

ROFLMAO.. some of you guy can't even see past the end of your noses. Java doesn't profess to be faster than C++ or VB, and besides it NEVER could be, if you had any clue you'd realise that native applications will always execute faster than any VM system and this includes .NET - don't knock something just because you don't understand it.

What it does offer though is a robust set of tools that allow cross platform compatability with no need for modification or re-compilation. Java has never been very good when it comes to desktop applications, while it is capable of some fatastic feats (just take a look at JBuilder), its future definitely lays in Server-side applications.

softssa reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 5, 2004

The apps that run on java, Opera, Mozilla, and i think OpenOffice all take ages to load, even though you have a 2.53Ghz, with 512 ram with splendid maintenance. Tje SUN guy have to improve on the speed cause honestly that is all that counts nowadays, don't you think. Perhaps design is important too, and yeah opera has accomplished that. But it such eats resources it loads slow. When i click on a url I want opera to start within a tenth of a second and that't it!!

newjamie reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 5, 2004

To bsr500:

Why don't you think about what you're posting before spouting cr*p? Java is SSSLLLLOOOWWWW no matter what browser you call it from. The JVM is a software based translator to enable Java to run on any platform and therefore has to do much more work than a compiled platform specfic program such as C++.

dr_goodbytes reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 5, 2004

Works well in opera, has some "issues" with firebird, but i think i can fix that...when i get around to it :)
and no it's not slow.

BoNeLeSS reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 5, 2004

I still have to see a C++ app running on every OS/processor platform in market. Yes, maybe is not lightning fast, but Java has found its way on the server niche rather than GUI apps.

bsr500 reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 5, 2004

You dumb people, its running slow because your using it with IE, this java is made more for opera and mozilla.

donpacman reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 5, 2004

You don't have to be a brain surgeon to get a clue about SUNs Java! Just use it once and you to will say "Java 2" SUCKS...technically

ghammer reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 5, 2004

Finally, an app that makes my P4 run like a 486!
Thanks for this nasty very unix-like piece of garbage.
I wouldn't run this on my boss' machine...

virtorio reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 5, 2004

Java is dead, and sun should let it go gracefully, before they completly destory their reputation.

Jeffsoft reviewed v1.5.0 Beta 1 on Feb 4, 2004

finally an update!!

cooldude7273 reviewed v1.4.2_02 on Oct 30, 2003

Java RULES!

softssa reviewed v1.4.2_02 on Oct 23, 2003

It still keeps eating all of my resources.
This resource intensive environment still keeps programs developed in Java way behind other.

Anthracks reviewed v1.4.2_02 on Oct 23, 2003

Until Firebird has an official installer, you have to manually edit the registry or use an unofficial (but perfectly funcitonal) installer such as Seb's (http://seb.mozdev.org/firebird/). After that, it should have no problem recognizing the Java plug-in.

guti reviewed v1.4.2_02 on Oct 23, 2003

Still slow and with lots of memory leaks in the GC.

dr_goodbytes reviewed v1.4.2_02 on Oct 23, 2003

i did get it working in firebird, i got the latest nightly build (unofficial exe installer) works great.

Treize reviewed v1.4.2_02 on Oct 23, 2003

I have Firebird, and it works perfectly for me!

Pizda reviewed v1.4.2_02 on Oct 22, 2003

Does not work with Firebird, Opera, and it crashed my IE while loading a java applet. Startup improvement is marginal; would not waste my time on this release, if I was you. Sun is going down the tubes if they keep this up.

jackxia reviewed v1.4.2 on Oct 8, 2003

simple take too much memory and slow

kbyron reviewed v1.4.2 on Jun 29, 2003

I would give it a much higher rating if only it worked with Opera 6.06. You simply cannot enable Java 1.4.2 within that browser. (Don't say I should use Opera 7. I simply don't like it.)

scots reviewed v1.4.2 on Jun 28, 2003

Couldn't get it to work with Mozilla Firebird. Had to go back to 1.4.1.

Zulithe reviewed v1.4.2 on Jun 28, 2003

Very good, this is the best version of Java ever released. Practically every bug has been removed in this version, and it's faster than ever before.
If you use Java in your web browser (instead of the Microsoft JavaVM) or have any applications that use Java, this is a highly recommended upgrade for you.
If you plan on programming in Java though, you should probably look at www.java.com since it has a seperate version which you can download that includes a Java IDE for programming in Java, all for free! Though the download is over 77megs. :x

ricsal reviewed v1.4.2 Beta on Apr 4, 2003

i hope that BufferedInputStream.available() can now detect propretly connections lost and send the exception!

keystroke reviewed v1.4.2 Beta on Apr 4, 2003

Cool... comes with an autoupdater now (for which you can specify WHEN and how OFTEN it will try to update), as well as Mozilla support :) Although I had to reinstall the current moz 1.4a after installing it.. as well as uninstall the other javas, and reboot, to get it to work. Then again it is a beta, but it seems good so far.

dr_goodbytes reviewed v1.4.2 Beta on Apr 3, 2003

my mistake...the link doesn't work if you open it in a new window. it works fine if you just click on it. anyway like i was saying, sun java is great, much better than the bug-ridden "microsoft virtual machine".

WRFan reviewed v1.4.1_02 on Mar 1, 2003

what kind of an update is that? it still says "netscape 6", although netscape 7 came out a long time ago. can't they even update one single number in their programme?

jrepin reviewed v1.4.1_02 on Mar 1, 2003

Vorking fast and stable here. Both SDK and JRE.

trapanator reviewed v1.4.1_02 on Mar 1, 2003

best!

BootBlock reviewed v1.4.1_02 on Mar 1, 2003

Impressively slow. I'm also pretty certain there are memory leaks happening..

mbear reviewed v1.4.1 on Oct 12, 2002

"RC" stands for "Release Candidate", a standard industry term. Often there's an RC1, RC2, etc. as installer and the like bugs are worked out.

keystroke reviewed v1.4.1 on Oct 12, 2002

Is this any different than the last version posted? Still reads b21 in my Control Panel app.

guti reviewed v1.4.1 on Oct 12, 2002

Slowwwwwwwwwwwww

purush reviewed v1.4.1 FCS on Oct 10, 2002

For the information of someone above RC stands for Rich Client, whatever that means. The link is definitely not working

sthulin reviewed v1.4.1 FCS on Sep 18, 2002

um, ok, i guess sun decided to pull this release off their website cause thelink doesn't work anymore. Anyone willing to mirror the file so others can download it?

doren reviewed v1.4.1 FCS on Sep 18, 2002

Actually, FCS means "First Customer Ship" (found it on java.sun.com).

eddie reviewed v1.4.1 FCS on Sep 18, 2002

Anthracks: I think FCS means Final Candidate "sumthin"

WRFan reviewed v1.4.1 FCS on Sep 17, 2002

The final version ROCKS! at least 100 times faster than previous versions! all java applications and applets start very fast, as opposed to previous versions of java, where one had to wait for 10 seconds for the java to load and to start the app/applet.

Here's an order: Everyone go immediately to sun and download!

Anthracks reviewed v1.4.1 FCS on Sep 17, 2002

Would someone please explain what FCS means?

scots reviewed v1.4.1 RC on Aug 27, 2002

Am I doing something wrong or what? When I install this (or any previous version of Sun's Java 2 Runtime), all the Java sites I go to quit working. Uninstall it, and they all work fine again. What's up with that?? I've talked to a couple friends of mine, and they have the same problem.

WRFan reviewed v1.4.1 RC on Aug 26, 2002

what does RC mean? release candidate? and what does it mean? is it equivalent to beta? I am not going to install beta software on my pc. But I use java sun 1.40_01, and I like it. ok, it takes 2 sec. to load, when I visit a website with java applets, so what? why is everyone complaining about this? 2 sec. isn't much.
it's true, however, java based applications take much time to load. a normal app loads immediately, for a java based app you have to wait for 5 sec. till it starts.

woodengod reviewed v1.4.1 RC on Aug 26, 2002

The same could be said for JRE1.1x, 1.2.x, 1.3.x and 1.4.0 which I don't like (big OO mess, constantly changing API, slow, memory and CPU resource monster). What's new then?
To me Microsoft and Sun are like USSR and Nazi Germany in the WWII: two sides of the same evil.

yohimbe9 reviewed v1.4.1 RC on Aug 26, 2002

i haven't been happy with java since 1.3.x. everytime i visit a site with java i hear my machine crunching away as it loads the java runtime. and this is on several machines. i don't deal with non-web apps so i can't speak about that at all. i can say that sun needs to push java developers more to create cross-platform code. we run into all the time at work where java will run fine on the PC but not on the Mac. i know this is the developer's fault, but i think sun needs to raise some more awareness on the topic.

fguarnie reviewed v1.4.1 Beta on Aug 7, 2002

If you compare a native GUI windows application with a java GUI app Ok, no doubt. But i don't think 10~20 ms (more or less) change my life... The "slow" java GUI app it's enough for me? YES! Do the job like the windows app? YES! Works without changes (and without recompile) on several different platforms? YES! If you work -only- with Windows, perhaps, .NET is the solution. You can go fast as you want :-) . But you must spend a lot of $$$ to pay Windows. I prefer a free OS and invest in a language that works really fine on several platforms. I don't believe -at all- the novel that say ".NET is cross platform".
On the server side Micro$oft is far away from J2EE on several platform, on the client side Micro$oft wins only on its S.O.
There are a lot of free (cross platform) IDE for J2EE: Netbeans, Eclipse or very good editor (with plugins) like Jedit.
Also Mr. Gates has said ".NET Won't Happen Overnight"
the link is:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,426247,00.asp

guti reviewed v1.4.1 Beta on Aug 7, 2002

I do not have a 100 Mhz Pentium, it is a 1400 Mhz Athlon instead.
Have you compared a simple application using C# with one using Java? The first is almost twice faster. That is a fact.
.NET is a free and open plattform. You can download the .NET framework consting you 0. Visual Studio is a commercial software, as JBuilder or JDeveloper are.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v1.4.0_01 on Jun 21, 2002

Full of Bugs!!!!

Tux0Racer reviewed v1.4.0_01 on Jun 19, 2002

Very nice. Good speed imporovment over previous versions. :)

guti reviewed v1.4.0_01 on Jun 19, 2002

Still bloated and very slow.
Use .net instead!