File Details |
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File Size | 30.6 MB |
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License | Freeware |
Operating System | Windows 2000/Server 2003/Vista/XP |
Date Added | January 27, 2021 |
Total Downloads | 51,085 |
Publisher | RainmeterTeam |
Homepage | Rainlendar |
Publisher's Description
Rainlendar is a feature rich calendar application that is easy to use and doesn't take much space on your desktop. The application is platform independent so you can run it both on Windows and on Linux. The appearance can be customized with skins and you can even mix different skins together.
Latest Reviews
cltx99 reviewed v2.12.2 on Mar 18, 2014
I've been using rainlendar for years and it's simply excellent. It certainly is not irrelevant as one commenter said.
some guy reviewed v2.8.1 on Feb 7, 2011
version 2.8.1 stable 6.7 megs of ram used works like a charm simple and non bloat.
stisev reviewed v2.5 Build 72 on Mar 29, 2009
I can't believe people are rating this so low.
I replaced Lightning (thunderbird) and Outlook calendar with this and NEVER looked back.
I input stuff directly in Rainlendar and don't need the pro version (which only includes google calendar + outlook calendar support).
It's free, portable, stable, and does what it says! Right now it's taking 8.3MB with a calendar full of stuff. Sometimes it does take as high as 14-16MB, but seriously, if it does what I want (and does it well), who cares?
anomoly reviewed v2.5 Build 72 on Feb 23, 2009
Jeez. You guys complain about a few megs of memory. My s***box uses a tad over 13 mb just so I can have a simple but useable desk calendar, and I have only a gig of ddr400. ProcessExplorer uses more on mine (17+).
It for me is practical and has a small desktop footprint which is what is important. LClock has a nice calendar too, but it can't do what this can nor will it run in sharpenviro.
You should really suggest a better (I bet u can't) one than use memory as an excuse to bash a perfectly good piece of software. This is the only program I run that has a pro version which is saying a lot for the software itself.
Pkshadow reviewed v2.5 Build 72 on Feb 23, 2009
With this products footprint taking more and more I see "no" reason to upgrade from a earlier version if you can find it. I would like for that version as it was a "great" app for what it does.
Since I do not run Outlook it is a great app for me!
If you can balance what you use and what you do not this version my still be a useful program. It's about time all apps start migration to Win7 so lets see still where this goes before condemning it to far down!
\Does what it is suppose too, works great!
DudeBoyz reviewed v2.5 Build 72 on Feb 23, 2009
Still not liking the changes, and the very slow development cycle. I think this app is pretty much irrelevant at this point. Surprised they even bothered with an update, actually.
Here is there CHANGELOG page:
http://www.rainlendar.net/download/Changes.txt
DudeBoyz reviewed v2.4 on Aug 27, 2008
This used to be a decent, if a bit buggy, app way back in the day. But man, it's just turned into a bloated unstable mess. I feel bad that the program went in that direction, because it had a great deal of potential, imo.
Blaxima reviewed v2.2 on Dec 7, 2007
Gave this another try just to use the "to do list" and thats all I have showing and it uses 16,542k just to do that!!!!!
rubbish
Blaxima reviewed v2.1 Build 42 on Jul 3, 2007
SMALL FOOTPRINT my ass!!!
Older Versions were but I really don't think something that uses more memory than my Kaspersky or ZoneAlarm v5 or Opera all while I write this could be considered small. AND FOR WHAT?!?!?!
some guy reviewed v2.1 Build 41 Beta on Jun 21, 2007
small footprint free what more could you want
cltx99 reviewed v2.12.2 on Mar 18, 2014
I've been using rainlendar for years and it's simply excellent. It certainly is not irrelevant as one commenter said.
some guy reviewed v2.8.1 on Feb 7, 2011
version 2.8.1 stable 6.7 megs of ram used works like a charm simple and non bloat.
stisev reviewed v2.5 Build 72 on Mar 29, 2009
I can't believe people are rating this so low.
I replaced Lightning (thunderbird) and Outlook calendar with this and NEVER looked back.
I input stuff directly in Rainlendar and don't need the pro version (which only includes google calendar + outlook calendar support).
It's free, portable, stable, and does what it says! Right now it's taking 8.3MB with a calendar full of stuff. Sometimes it does take as high as 14-16MB, but seriously, if it does what I want (and does it well), who cares?
anomoly reviewed v2.5 Build 72 on Feb 23, 2009
Jeez. You guys complain about a few megs of memory. My s***box uses a tad over 13 mb just so I can have a simple but useable desk calendar, and I have only a gig of ddr400. ProcessExplorer uses more on mine (17+).
It for me is practical and has a small desktop footprint which is what is important. LClock has a nice calendar too, but it can't do what this can nor will it run in sharpenviro.
You should really suggest a better (I bet u can't) one than use memory as an excuse to bash a perfectly good piece of software. This is the only program I run that has a pro version which is saying a lot for the software itself.
Pkshadow reviewed v2.5 Build 72 on Feb 23, 2009
With this products footprint taking more and more I see "no" reason to upgrade from a earlier version if you can find it. I would like for that version as it was a "great" app for what it does.
Since I do not run Outlook it is a great app for me!
If you can balance what you use and what you do not this version my still be a useful program. It's about time all apps start migration to Win7 so lets see still where this goes before condemning it to far down!
\Does what it is suppose too, works great!
DudeBoyz reviewed v2.5 Build 72 on Feb 23, 2009
Still not liking the changes, and the very slow development cycle. I think this app is pretty much irrelevant at this point. Surprised they even bothered with an update, actually.
Here is there CHANGELOG page:
http://www.rainlendar.net/download/Changes.txt
DudeBoyz reviewed v2.4 on Aug 27, 2008
This used to be a decent, if a bit buggy, app way back in the day. But man, it's just turned into a bloated unstable mess. I feel bad that the program went in that direction, because it had a great deal of potential, imo.
Blaxima reviewed v2.2 on Dec 7, 2007
Gave this another try just to use the "to do list" and thats all I have showing and it uses 16,542k just to do that!!!!!
rubbish
Blaxima reviewed v2.1 Build 42 on Jul 3, 2007
SMALL FOOTPRINT my ass!!!
Older Versions were but I really don't think something that uses more memory than my Kaspersky or ZoneAlarm v5 or Opera all while I write this could be considered small. AND FOR WHAT?!?!?!
some guy reviewed v2.1 Build 41 Beta on Jun 21, 2007
small footprint free what more could you want
anomoly reviewed v2.1 Build 41 Beta on Jun 12, 2007
Still the best portable standalone calendar hands down. Even so, I use Lclock with windows and only use this with my flash drive.
AntiochMedia reviewed v2.1 Build 39 Beta on May 15, 2007
shicaca: You're a student and can't afford $20 for an application that you would use? Who pays your tuition and housing? Rainlendar is an excellent program and Rainy cannot continue writing his software and providing support for it without turning a profit. When someone charges $20, they are subsidizing the development cost.
idodialog reviewed v2.1 Build 39 Beta on May 15, 2007
I used Rainy way back when and it was fun and useful, but that was then and now - well if it can't get my Google Calendars its a no go, if it can't sync with outlook its useless - pity coz the skinnable interfaces were appealing.
shicaca reviewed v2.1 Build 38 on Apr 16, 2007
(to response to earlier message)
If you use a Palm, you will use outlook. I'm a student, therefor paying $20 for a calendar app after paying what I had to in order to use MS Office is out of the question.
Like another said -- $5, maybe. $20? No.
And directly at your question: "Who uses Outlook at home, anyways?" I do.
If more companies/ppl gave demos instead of immediately crippling their software, they'd get more $$ for their projects. This is why, again, I say: Tripe.
simko reviewed v2.1 Build 37 Beta on Apr 10, 2007
Great program does what it says its fun when a developer want to earn money from his work instantly the porgam he has made is crap.
Anyway who use outlook at home anyway? its crap.
At work you can minimize it so its next to the clock and you will get a notice as sson a event is to happen or you get new mail.
Ian C. reviewed v2.1 Build 37 Beta on Apr 10, 2007
This was a great program back before the non free pro version was launched. Since then they totally gutted the free version, not much use anymore. And I totally can't justify spending $20 on such a small piece of software, maybe if it was $5.
shicaca reviewed v2.1 Build 37 Beta on Apr 9, 2007
Absolutely useless since the unregistered version (non-PRO) does not allow you to use MS Outlook calendars. In fact that's one of two features it does explicitly NOT allow. Tripe.
DudeBoyz reviewed v2.1 Build 37 Beta on Apr 9, 2007
Version 2.x just doesn't seem to work as well as the older version did.
Heck, the older version was like 800k - this thing is 4 meg. Why's it worth it?
BoNeLeSS reviewed v2.1 Build 36 Beta on Apr 2, 2007
Not bad, but on multimonitor systems does not work properly.
the artist reviewed v2.1 Build 35 Beta on Mar 21, 2007
I don't use any other than my own content with this, my to dos and calendar events, and this program works flawlessly for these purposes.
The calendar events with the alarm options are deep and clear, the "to do" list is right the same and the proggie in Desktop Mode doesn't clutter your desktop at all, it just show there permanently and lets you have all of your data at a glance with a stylish & pretty look. Just awesome!
And| reviewed v2.1 Build 35 Beta on Mar 21, 2007
@astovidiu
Funny thing is... me to. There is only one reason why. The todo list doesnt skip to the next line when it becomes to long, so if you write a long todo list entry it wont show all of it, 0.22 does.
But I would sure love the easy to install skins that has come with version 2.
All in all, Rainlender, a great piece of software.
astovidiu reviewed v2.1 Build 35 Beta on Mar 21, 2007
I'm using version 0.22 and I like the fact that it work with ics calendars - alarms an all - (imported from google calendar). When I tried 2.x versions of this application none of them worked properly with ics calendars.
So, at least from this point of view, this version sucks.
DudeBoyz reviewed v2.1 Build 35 Beta on Mar 20, 2007
I just have to give up on this thing. It's not getting better or more efficient or more stable. :(
I used to dig that app big-time, but it has always been buggy, sadly. This version is no different.
jspratjr reviewed v2.0.2 on Jan 2, 2007
Nice review tscar12 - what a waste.
Nice app, easy to use - as dejavu mentioned, NOD32 is detecting it as a virus.
tscar12 reviewed v2.0.2 on Jan 2, 2007
just what i want something else to clutter up my desktop.
dejavu reviewed v2.0.2 on Jan 2, 2007
My Desktop Calendar!
But NOD32 report "Rainlendar-Lite-2.0.2.exe probably unknown NewHeur_PE virus" (False Positive?)
From the Rainlendar Forum:
http://tinyurl.com/y5ca6z
tinkerdill reviewed v2.0.2 on Jan 2, 2007
looks like spyware....
bid reviewed v2.0.2 on Jan 2, 2007
I'm kinda disappointed by the new 2.x series. I went back to 0.2x after trying this for a few hours. The configurations are much more confusing and I cannot get it to show multiple calendars like I do with the old series :(
lhdal reviewed v2.0.1 on Dec 16, 2006
Uses much more resources than Rainlendar 0.2x series.
There are lots of gadget applications that support a calendar.
And the reason I chose Rainlendar was because it used much less resources. Now it uses more than those.
The program configuration window couldn't be less user friendly.
If I didn't know 0.2x series, I would say this version is fine but I know how things used to be better.
I am feeling that this version is made to be compatible with Linux. And that made many sacrifices from the previous version.
I'm still using 0.22 and as soon as I find the better alternative, I will swith to it as that version won't be updated any more.
AntiochMedia reviewed v2.0.1 on Dec 2, 2006
Well - I don't use the Outlook Sync feature? Why? Sorry to troll, but Outlook sucks =) Okay, I'm trolling...
I've been using Rainlendar for a while and have loved the improvements in the 2.0 version - it's just easier to use and manage, the UI is cleaned up a bit - and hell, it's the best personal organizer I've found as it uses low resources, works as a desktop widget, and is easy to manipulate without feeling like you need to bend over backwards to use it.
As Rainlendar -IS- such a useful tool, if the lite version were taken away entirely, I would pay a reasonable amount for it. I paid for SwishMax - as I'm not a very good flash developer and I'm quite handy at Swish. The same goes for Rainlendar - it's a productivity tool that I rely on and the fact that a free version is still offered thrills me. There is a motivated individual by the name of 'Rainy' who makes this and there's nothing like it!
Now - my one feature request =) - Tasks, Events, and a Calendar... neat - I want one more thing added! I want a simple window that can also be attached that I can freely write in. Post-it-notes if you will.
DudeBoyz reviewed v2.0.1 on Nov 29, 2006
I hate to see free apps split off into retail at the expense of features.
Cutting features out of an existing app and making them exclusive to the pay version just seems wrong somehow.
Maybe freeze the free version featurewise and only add NEW features to the retail version, but to actually take features away from users and force them to pay to get them back, that is lame.
Still, that out of the way, the app is getting more stable and that's key, cause I stopped using it some time back because of its instability.
Glad to see it is being updated, even if it has fallen somewhat behind.
bid reviewed v2.0.1 on Nov 28, 2006
@ Aegir: You still can. Just need to pay and get the pro version.
This tool is just awesome! Great work. I used to use another tray calendar before, but now between this at home and LClock at work. I'm set :D
anomoly reviewed v2.0 on Oct 31, 2006
works fine and is very free. still the best
I do not use anything but the calendar functions
ghammer reviewed v2.0 b25 on Oct 29, 2006
Much of the new features did not work well, like sharing and using Outlook items.
I am sad to see one of my favorite apps go the shareware route. Understandable, everyone needs a it of cash.
But still a sad thing.
Tpm419 reviewed v2.0 b23 on Oct 28, 2006
Installing Rainlender beta I found once I made entries to the calendar and then went on to do something else, a simple mouse click wiped out any entries I made to the calendar. Including any additional calendars I made. This has happened several times. I do like the overall usefulness of the program. If only it worked!!
Jaz-M-Taz reviewed v2.0 b23 on Oct 16, 2006
I love this program, but although it’s a beta, I give it a "4" because of two problems I've noticed:
1) I use different calendar programs to manage a multiple calendar data files "[filename].ics", and when I dismiss a reminder in rainlendar, then it causes an error in other calendar programs when I try to open that data file.
2) I have multiple user accounts for different family members, and we all have rainlendar running on each desktop, but with different local and network calendar data files. I get and error if I add too many to limited user accounts, or while other users are logged on with rainlendar running, or sometimes when trying to add network calendars after adding local calendars. I lose all the calendars, and the settings for rainlendar. The calendars are back when I close the program and re-open it, but any changes are gone.
anomoly reviewed v2.0 b23 on Oct 14, 2006
SWEET.
Uninstall? it never did install to begin with moro..
lhdal reviewed v2.0 b23 on Oct 13, 2006
It will go on shareware and closed source.
serendipityguy reviewed v2.0 b23 on Oct 13, 2006
Oh this is jsut great, nice to see the continued development , I have found this app so very useful, what was is new?
Soozy reviewed v2.0 b23 on Oct 13, 2006
Very disappointed that this program does not have an Uninstall in Add Remove the way it says it should.
ripfuel reviewed v2.0 b23 on Oct 13, 2006
The BEST Calendar & Note Keeper on the planet! This nifty little program does not use much memory at all & it does exactly what is says it will do & nothing more. Keep up the GREAT work guys!
dejavu reviewed v2.0 b23 on Oct 13, 2006
My Calendar!
Dwiebelhaus reviewed v0.22.1 on Jan 25, 2006
Nice Program!
OrbitOne reviewed v0.22.1 on Jan 24, 2006
Great little calendar app. Unobtrusive, well behaved, and very configurable.
I use it daily.
I don't know how anyone can improve something like this.
AntiochMedia reviewed v0.22.1 on Jan 23, 2006
Rainlendar has been my solution for a Calendar and Scheduling after looking into Outlook and then trying builds of Thunderbird Lightning.
With a few quick configuration changes, Rainlendar is a perminant widget on my desktop that raises from 0 to 100 opacity smoothly upon mouse over... adding new events and editing details is point and click simple without any unnecessary fields... it's FAST... and honestly, it's the only Calendar that I don't have to schedule time to sit down and wrestle with! Brilliant Stuff!
Here's What's New:
* Fixed the task list not appearing from the Outlook.
* The iCalPlugin used incorrect extension for vCal files. Fixed.
* The birthdays didn't show correct year always. Fixed.
* Double clicking the event list header opens the correct day now.
* Time items showed incorrect year day. Fixed.
* The time in the event dialog can be defined like this now too: PM 10:00
* Improved iCalendar recurrency support.
ZenWarrior reviewed v0.22.1 on Jan 23, 2006
Once again (after problems with an earlier release), Rainlendar is as excellent a calendar as they come and without any bloat, but instead just great functionality.
hariskar reviewed v0.22 on Jan 22, 2006
Great little prog! Thanks! I was using Sunbird, which is unstable and biiig. Rainlendar is all I need.
slepax reviewed v0.22 RC3 on Oct 16, 2005
This is one cool tool. Works fine with no problem, first install though.
It would be nice if it could pick the event/task type as defined in Outlook (important, business, etc) and display a matching icon.
Comit reviewed v0.22 RC3 on Oct 16, 2005
I love it but it loses a point because it causes conflicts with some fullscreen 3d games.
simko reviewed v0.22 RC3 on Oct 15, 2005
Why do people install beta software thinking it should work without bugs?
Its ridiculous.
Anyway this verions worked without flaws on my computer.
-Lord- reviewed v0.22 RC3 on Oct 15, 2005
I haven't encountered any problems with this version. I've used previous version before, and typically it works as it says it does. I am still experimenting with this one and have to give it at least a 4. It's a good calendar, is extremely small, and FREE.
ZenWarrior: Take note that this is BETA ware. If you did not backup your system BEFORE installing this, or any other beta ware, you got what you deserve. The FIRST rule of beta testing is imaging your drive as it is, to give you something to go back to should problems arise. Flaming the software because it has problems in BETA stage is simply asanine.
ZenWarrior reviewed v0.22 RC2 on Oct 5, 2005
A fantastic piece of software turned into utter crap with this release. Stay away from it at all costs. I'm still trying to reconstruct a calendar that is my lifeline. I'm now certain to miss an appointment at some time. Not at all acceptable.
Just say "No" to this release. The upgrade failed, and then the re-installation of the previous version left my calendar in shambles. It even appears I may have to return to Outlook. (Yes, 'tis that sad.)
In fact, after this disaster, so much for upgrading again. What I had, v0.21.1, worked just fine. Heed my advice and don't fix what is not broken. Otherwise, it most certainly will need fixing.
serendipityguy reviewed v0.22 RC2 on Oct 4, 2005
this RC keeps crashing and there is no end to it...
WIN XP SP2
1 gig ram
New Sony Vaio Laptop....
I'd wait on this one, now I have to download the original one, thanks ALOT
forgie reviewed v0.22 RC2 on Oct 4, 2005
wow what a great little tool! Not only is it the most lightweight and simple desktop calendar, but it's free! Best of both worlds with this one.
petiot reviewed v0.21.2 on Jul 29, 2005
this prog is functional, simple, usable, nice etc, and doesnt take much memory. the best is to use it via litestep
street_spirit reviewed v0.21 on Mar 20, 2005
Love this program, does everything I need it to pretty much and pretty light on resources. I have always been put off by a lot of organiser programs because you have to go into them but as this is on the desktop it's a lot easier. Massive number of skins to choose from too.
My only annoyance which can be sorted thanks for the review by markus10018. That by default show on desktop isn't on. Basically prevents it from disappearing when you click show desktop
nemesarial reviewed v0.21 on Mar 15, 2005
This is a great app. Lets me have all my appointments handy without occupying space on the screen (on-desktop mode). I love the plugins, the sleek look and ease of use.
Only suggestion I could make would be a setup wizard that would help our other friends understand why things disappear from time to time.
Fab job guys!!
danilloOc reviewed v0.21 on Mar 2, 2005
Excellent software, very util and don't use too much resources ;)
markus10018 reviewed v0.20 on Dec 6, 2004
Use 'Show on Desktop' for the positioning of the items and alas - your problems with 'Show Desktop' are gone...
Oddish reviewed v0.19.3 on Aug 21, 2004
Great little app, but when I right-click the windows task bar and select "Show desktop" to be able to see Rainlendar, it has also disappeared.
chocthunder reviewed v0.19.2 on Apr 14, 2004
Great light weight application ... Would like more information on how to create/modify skins. Very pleased overall :)
star51L reviewed v0.19.2 on Apr 10, 2004
Great job Rainy...thanks for the update!
shawkins reviewed v0.19.2 RC1 on Mar 22, 2004
0.19.2 is available now, and fixes all previous problems I had. Excellent program!
Tridus reviewed v0.19.2 RC1 on Mar 16, 2004
Hands down, this thing is awesome.
mmatheny reviewed v0.19.1 on Feb 23, 2004
Very nice, but wish when I mininize all programs to the taskbar via Show Desktop, it would not minimize also! Also, cannot find a consistent way to show it again after the minimize! Sometimes, a right click will show it and the config menu, most times not! What is the way to get it to show on the desktop again?
vampyr reviewed v0.19.1 on Feb 22, 2004
I wish this rating scale went higher. There is a minor glitch with the new version -- you need to build the missing ini files as empty text files to make the config utility work properly but once you do --- WOW! this is a nice down and dirty calendar app that does all that the casual users needs without using Outlook or some other bloated PIM plus it is fully skinable! The home page has additional skins as does skinbase. Nice app, small memory footprint, unobtrusive. 5 stars are not enough for this polished beta, in spite of the missing ini's. Microsoft take notice of what someone can do for free.
tannman1 reviewed v0.19.1 on Feb 22, 2004
Nice easy and without any bs. If a simple calander program is what your lookin for consider this one
vizable reviewed v0.19.1 on Feb 22, 2004
Nice program. To the person that wants to change months.... just click the calendar and then use your arrow keys to change months and years.
Chief Wiggum reviewed v0.19.1 on Feb 22, 2004
I miss the "Pin to desktop" feature; but nice program overall.
tedbieri reviewed v0.19.1 on Feb 22, 2004
I just love great freeware and this is one of the best I've seen!! *****
pluizebol reviewed v0.19.1 on Feb 22, 2004
This is a great utility:
It is nice to look at.
It shows the week numbers (only in the shadow3 skin though).
It uses Outlook data.
Only one comment : it would be nice to have back and forth arrows to change months (instead of via a context menu).
That is why I gave it a 4, with the arrows I will give it a 6!
klumy reviewed v0.18 on Oct 5, 2003
Maybe the best free calendar program out there !!
remml reviewed v0.18 on Oct 4, 2003
This is the best desktop calendar program out there, especially in transparent mode. Adds just the right touch to the desktop and has a reminder function to boot. Best of all it is free .. Interesting, a great "free" program is often better than anything you can pay for.
ghammer reviewed v0.17.1 on Aug 24, 2003
Excellent! Provides a VERY customizable calendar and best of all, does not do any other functions! I love it.
So many apps try to be everything and do nothing well. This app does one thing and does it very well.
coch reviewed v0.17 on Aug 11, 2003
Very good calendar. It is possible to display more that 1 month. Look in the layout section of the config. Might have appeared in this version 0.17 though, as it is the first version I try.
exxwhyzee reviewed v0.16 Beta on Jul 6, 2003
I like that is isn't huge and it lets you put things for appointments and stuff. It is a nice little program. Very good calendar program.
owenster reviewed v0.16 Beta on Jul 6, 2003
This Is Probably The Best Version Put Out By Microsoft(R)
I Do Like The Weed Msn Better But This Is Cool Because it Comes With Webcam And Voice Interactivity And The Backgrounds And Pictures Make It More Better Looking
Check Out owen.fooinc.com
ruadrift reviewed v0.16 Beta on Jun 16, 2003
Great little program.
A Suggestion is to have an option for multiple month display ie for the month of june I'd be able to view May-June-July. A one month display gets a little tight at the end/beginning of the month.
Love the hook into outlook appointments.
thanks
joe dante
roban reviewed v0.16 Beta on Jun 16, 2003
I have been using this for a long time and it is one of the best out there for desktop calendars. Never had any problems.
ahjefri reviewed v0.16 Beta on Jun 16, 2003
Nice program .. it needs improvment incase of bad entry of skin ini. For example, misleading background image would result in not showing at all. Otherwise it very promissing program. Keep the good work Rainy...
s00ner95 reviewed v0.16 Beta on Jun 16, 2003
One of my favorites! a must have
ghammer reviewed v0.16 Beta on Jun 16, 2003
Excellent! Looks good and does what it says. Not a bloated app with lots of extra non-related stuff. I recommend it.
crabbyappleton reviewed v0.15 on Mar 29, 2003
Very nice. I like it.
RedBadger reviewed v0.13 on Sep 5, 2002
Very nice calendar to have on your desktop.
betasun reviewed v0.12 on Aug 12, 2002
It is nice on my desktop.
First_Darkness reviewed v0.8 on Jan 27, 2002
It's a good idea.