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Opera for Windows Opera for Windows 91.0.4516.65 for Windows

by Opera Software

Avg. Rating 4.0 (10,850 votes)

File Details

File Size 88.3 MB
License Freeware
Operating System Windows (All)
Date Added
Total Downloads 992,823
Publisher Opera Software
Homepage Opera
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Publisher's Description

Opera Web browser offers the best internet browsing experience available. Discover what over 20 million people have already experienced by downloading Opera's fast and safe internet browsers. Features include Speed Dial, Search Shortcuts, and Trash Can.

Latest Reviews

aayushkm52

aayushkm52 reviewed v91.0.4516.65 on Oct 18, 2022

Someone

Someone reviewed v81.0.4196.31 on Apr 4, 2022

After finally abandoning Firefox and testing Google Chrome for about an hour prior to uninstalling it, Opera has turned into my default program. The main genuine concern is the UDP association every time my financial balance secret key is placed. This, perhaps evil, endeavor to interface with the Internet is making me consider changing to an alternate program, conceivably Vivaldi. The issue is that utilizing an even less upheld program might cause extra sites to be non-functional, which is as of now, all things considered, an issue with Opera.

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v70.0.3728.71 on Jul 28, 2020

Stable, whatsapp, fb messenger, instagram, etc. included in the side-bar, youtube video pop-up also included in the browser, good ad-blocker integrated, VPN, latest engine thanks to frequent updates

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v69.0.3686.77 on Jul 22, 2020

Great browser

some guy

some guy reviewed v57.0.3098.102 on Dec 16, 2018

great alternative to Fire Fox and Chrome love the built in VPN ! got to do a little digging to activate it . Good browser has a little more bloat out of the box then I do prefer , but with a little tweaking you can slim it down the built in VPN is great for them youtube videos...

tonyshaw

tonyshaw reviewed v56.0.3051.99 on Nov 12, 2018

I'm trying to download Sims 2 but am not sure of a safe site...I haven't found any virus problems reported on FileForum, so I THINK it's safe...

NiBy

NiBy reviewed v56.0.3051.52 on Oct 18, 2018

Just great

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v56.0.3051.36 on Oct 10, 2018

Hello, Vivaldi. Goodbye, Opera.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v55.0.2994.61 on Sep 13, 2018

Brilliant browser, way in front if Firefox & as good if not better than Chrome Love it.

elopez17

elopez17 reviewed v54.0.2952.60 on Jul 20, 2018

This is now my default browser, faster that Chrome, Firefox and Edge

Avg. Rating 4.0 (10,850 votes)
Your Rating

Someone reviewed v on Mar 19, 2023

Pros:

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aayushkm52

aayushkm52 reviewed v91.0.4516.65 on Oct 18, 2022

Pros: Will this fix the issue with MPEG-4 ASP as well?

Cons: Will this fix the issue with MPEG-4 ASP as well?

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Someone reviewed v on Jul 5, 2022

Pros: 555

Cons: 555

Bottom Line: 555

Someone reviewed v81.0.4196.31 on Apr 4, 2022

Pros: Professionals: Opera is a quick program with built-in impedance. It uses the Chrome motor and augmentations without being related to Google. Opera fulfills my perusing needs without the irritations of Firefox and Internet Explorer because my experience is really good with my project https://talib.pk/.

Cons: Opera.exe attempts to make an active UDP association each time I begin to enter a ledger secret key, which is upsetting. I can't observe data making sense of the requirement for this Internet association. With UDP demand hampered, the show is useful.

Bottom Line: After finally abandoning Firefox and testing Google Chrome for about an hour prior to uninstalling it, Opera has turned into my default program. The main genuine concern is the UDP association every time my financial balance secret key is placed. This, perhaps evil, endeavor to interface with the Internet is making me consider changing to an alternate program, conceivably Vivaldi. The issue is that utilizing an even less upheld program might cause extra sites to be non-functional, which is as of now, all things considered, an issue with Opera.

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v70.0.3728.71 on Jul 28, 2020

Pros: All

Cons: None

Bottom Line: Stable, whatsapp, fb messenger, instagram, etc. included in the side-bar, youtube video pop-up also included in the browser, good ad-blocker integrated, VPN, latest engine thanks to frequent updates

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v69.0.3686.77 on Jul 22, 2020

Pros: Stable, whatsapp, fb messenger, instagram, etc. included in the side-bar, youtube video pop-up also included in the browser, good ad-blocker integrated, VPN, latest engine thanks to frequent updates

Cons: none

Bottom Line: Great browser

some guy

some guy reviewed v57.0.3098.102 on Dec 16, 2018

Pros: fast
free vpn

Cons: Gui could use a remake little more bloat then I do prefer

Bottom Line: great alternative to Fire Fox and Chrome love the built in VPN ! got to do a little digging to activate it . Good browser has a little more bloat out of the box then I do prefer , but with a little tweaking you can slim it down the built in VPN is great for them youtube videos...

tonyshaw

tonyshaw reviewed v56.0.3051.99 on Nov 12, 2018

Pros: Is fileforum.betanews.com a safe downloading place?

Cons: fileforum

Bottom Line: I'm trying to download Sims 2 but am not sure of a safe site...I haven't found any virus problems reported on FileForum, so I THINK it's safe...

NiBy

NiBy reviewed v56.0.3051.52 on Oct 18, 2018

Pros: Fast abd reliable

Cons: Nothing really

Bottom Line: Just great

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v56.0.3051.36 on Oct 10, 2018

Pros: Hello Vivaldi, the browser created by the original creators of Opera, which the 'company' Opera sold to the Chinese government, which wrests American technology from unscrupulous tech companies by forcing the transfer of proprietary technology in mandatory joint ventures.

Anyhoo, Vivaldi is great. Unbloated yet mui customizable, handles all of the latest protocols.

Cons: No cons.

Bottom Line: Hello, Vivaldi. Goodbye, Opera.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v55.0.2994.61 on Sep 13, 2018

Pros: Brilliant, gave up on Chrome after it looks at what software you run & then the latest addition to demand you remove software that MAY affect it - Very surprised how good Opera is, I used it in the beginning when it was donation ware but the latest is quite brilliant - I just about always use a decent
VPN but the Opera one aint bad at all.

Cons: None that I can find.

Bottom Line: Brilliant browser, way in front if Firefox & as good if not better than Chrome Love it.

elopez17

elopez17 reviewed v54.0.2952.60 on Jul 20, 2018

Pros: It;s getting better and better

Cons: NONE

Bottom Line: This is now my default browser, faster that Chrome, Firefox and Edge

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v52.0.2871.97 on Apr 26, 2018

Pros:

Cons:

Bottom Line: Morningdove, Nice!

Morningdove

Morningdove reviewed v52.0.2871.64 on Apr 20, 2018

Pros: Opera is a fast browser with built-in add blocking. It uses the Chrome engine and extensions without having to be associated with Google. Opera satisfies my browsing needs without the annoyances of Firefox and Internet Explorer.

Cons: Opera.exe tries to make an outgoing UDP connection each time I start to enter a bank account password, which is disturbing. I am unable to find information explaining the need for this Internet connection. Opera is functional with that UDP request blocked.

It would be good to have a built-in 'check for updates' setting. It can be disabled when manually starting by adding the '--disable-update' parameter and also removed from the Task Scheduler, but cannot be avoided when started by a link in another program, such as an email client.

There are a few web sites that don't function with Opera, therefore necessitating the occasional use of Firefox or Internet Explorer.

Bottom Line: Opera has become my default browser after finally giving up on Firefox and testing Google Chrome for about an hour before uninstalling it. The only real concern is the attempted UDP connection each time my bank account password is entered. This possibly nefarious attempt to connect to the Internet is causing me to consider changing to a different browser, possibly Vivaldi. The problem is that using an even less supported browser may cause additional web sites to be non-operational, which is already somewhat of a problem with Opera.

Opera is complete after adding extensions V7 Bookmarks and History, a pdf file viewer and a few others.

ADDENDUM: I have just tested Vivaldi. It is not a replacement for Opera; It isn't even in the same ball game. This is not a review of Vivaldi, only a statement of my opinion when compared to Opera.

elopez17

elopez17 reviewed v50.0.2762.45 on Jan 10, 2018

Pros: Very fast, compare, I could said is faster or equal to FF, definitely faster than Chrome, and that VPN is great.

Cons: NONE

Bottom Line: Super

The Old Man

The Old Man reviewed v46.0.2597.46 on Jul 17, 2017

Pros: So quick

Cons: needs a touch up on minor issues

Bottom Line: Awesomely quick for me I prefer this to FF. I really like this build onwards, I am sticking with opera now

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v46.0.2597.39 on Jul 6, 2017

Far more stable than firefox

grisla

grisla reviewed v46.0.2597.26 on Jun 23, 2017

Opera is back! Excellent browser.

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v45.0.2552.898 on Jun 17, 2017

Sold to China. So what? Collects personal data? Completely unfounded. Excellent browser.

krgood

krgood reviewed v45.0.2552.898 on Jun 15, 2017

Sold to China, Collects personal data, sends to China. No Thanks

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v45.0.2552.888 on Jun 1, 2017

I dont like Opera, its that simpel.

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v45.0.2552.881 on May 27, 2017

I really like this browser. Pros: Long history of solid, consistent development, yet low market share means lower susceptibility to exploitation by hackers; light-weight, customizable, built-in vpn, ad-blocker.Everything works. Con: momentary delay on exit (not sure why).

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v42.0.2393.517 on Jan 27, 2017

Fast, stab;e, aesthetically pleasing and customizable. No bull****. Way better than Firebloat..

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v42.0.2393.351 on Jan 24, 2017

Youtube videos do play and actually everything else does. This is currently the best browser.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v42.0.2393.137 on Jan 20, 2017

Youtube videos will not play

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v42.0.2393.137 on Jan 20, 2017

Youtube videos will not play

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v42.0.2393.94 on Dec 20, 2016

Opera is still a thing? Have they achieved greater than 3% usage since the 90s?

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v41.0.2353.46 on Oct 26, 2016

Wait, this is still a thing?

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v30.0.1835.52 on Jun 12, 2015

The standards as they move most of the work over to their Polish office is taking a nose dive. This is considered a stable release and yet; Youtube videos will not play if you are on Win 7 x86, PDF viewer does not work on any OS, Bookmarks show up blank when trying to access them through the menu button. The worst part of this all? They consider these known issues but released it anyways!!

I am done with this browser and company as I've noticed that not only does this phone home to re-route you through their servers but, all of their mobile apps do the same. Opera ASA has become a company of low quality standards and just another spying piece of s***. AVOID

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v28.0.1750.51 on Apr 11, 2015

After spending quite a bit of time sorting Opera out, getting bookmarks toolbar inorder and making settings adjustments, things actually went quite well. I was quite surprised. I'm still getting used to it, but in the meantime all I can say is "not bad, not bad at all.

GadgetPig

GadgetPig reviewed v28.0.1750.51 on Apr 9, 2015

Currently my favorite web browser. Opera Cloud Sync is working again, and Bing has been restored as an additional search engine.

SpeedDial is similar to the Start Screen for Windows 8/10. It's easy to view content of a URL,since it shows as a screen-shot.

You will need PPAPI if you desire the flash plugin. Opera does not come with flash installed like Google Chrome.

https://get2.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/

If you desire to remove Google search in the Speed Dial, go to settings (ALT+P) and type the konami code:

Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A

With luck click "advanced "check box,you'll see the option to "Hide the search box in Speed Dial"

Opera wish list:

-64bit version for Windows
-Ability to PIN website within Opera to Windows 8/10 start screen.
-Ability to alphabetically sort all bookmarks/folders/sub folders iin bookmark manager/speedial. Currently you have to move things manually one at a time. (workaround, put the bookmark folders on the bookmarks toolbar. If you hover over the folder, you can right click and sort alphabetically)

-Add Opera stable to the current Fedora/CentOS repository. Currently you have to convert Opera deb to rpm,and get stuck with the Ubuntu GUI
-Add option to improve font thickness (under windows) to better match IE11/Firefox. Make it a little easier for older eyes to view websites.
-Integrate option to adjust/throttle download speeds for certain files (.exe/.iso). Basically like an integrated freedownloadmanager/eagleget directly in Opera

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v28.0.1750.40 on Mar 11, 2015

well....Vivaldi's Tech preview has been around a month and already Google is taking their ideas. That means Opera follows suite, so welcome the very useful sidebar. Sadly, they are relying on panel extensions rather than making things native. I've never really been a fan of extensions because you become dependent on too many developers to ensure your browser is up to date.

It's also rather embarrassing that Opera, once the one known for it's innovations that others copied is now sitting on the other side of that fence.

I have completely removed Opera as it does not perform well, is a crippled version of Chrome that phones home just as much and is a little all over the place at the moment in direction.

Cyberfox has satisfied my needs and I will look to Vivaldi's development so I can finally replace my Opera 12.17 for mail and notes

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v27.0.1689.76 on Feb 26, 2015

If you want speed use Maxthon

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v27.0.1689.76 on Feb 24, 2015

@rafaelluik

Why do you feel the need to mention me in most of your posts? Are you in love with me or something? Please try and stick to discussing the software, this ain't christian mingle.

Opera has a bit of a head start on Vivaldi so time will tell. They've certainly set their sights on being more than just another Chrome clone. Opera is striving to set the bar high, why in the newest developer build they've added the revolutionary ability to center images!! Amazing

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v27.0.1689.54 on Feb 6, 2015

Yes Vivaldi is here, it has no auto-update, no sign of sync, it's buggy, it's missing search with context menu entries, the tab history, keyboard shortcuts fail, etc... Who cares right, Blaxima will finally leave us, if his mental illness let him I guess...

smaragdus

smaragdus reviewed v27.0.1689.54 on Jan 29, 2015

There is hope for Opera users- Otter and Vivaldi. New Opera was stillborn.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v27.0.1689.54 on Jan 27, 2015

Strange that this went stable with only 2 betas, a stark contrast to their normal development. Perhaps its to coincide with the release of what Opera should have become, Vivaldi.

The former creator of Opera, along with some former Opera devs, have finally released a Tech Preview of their newest browser. Bye bye Opera

Hello https://vivaldi.com/?welcome=1&lang=en

smaragdus

smaragdus reviewed v26.0.1656.60 on Jan 15, 2015

Opera 15 and above- the worst browser ever.

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v26.0.1656.60 on Jan 12, 2015

@Music4Ever I have no issues adding bookmarks to the bookmarks bar, I don't know what went with you. :/

I prefer the Speed Dial though, it's lovely to add the pages you want there, save all open tabs as folders when you need to... It'll save thumbnails so it's very easy to find the pages you were navigating earlier. Then you can search for pages titles and URLs and it filters in real-time. I prefer this to the classic bookmarks experience.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v26.0.1656.60 on Dec 17, 2014

Still unable to add bookmarks in folders onto the bar below the address bar as in just about every other browser on earth - It seems Opera feel users don't use bookmarks if you research. (you can import them though)

Though I suppose the ones that did use bookmarks have long since buggered off to alternative browsers long ago & the few users that Opera have left don't need them. Privacy is not high on Opera's list of importance either & few things can be customised, it seems you do it Opera's way or not at all from my hour spent with it today.

IMHO the worse browser in the entire world which also left huge amounts of junk after uninstalling esp. in the registry, so be prepared to either restore an image or spend half hour cleaning your PC of this browser.

If you are inclined to give it a try again, don't bother, it really is a piece of junk which requires alternative thinking way beyond that needed to use Windows & Linux on the same PC.

@rafaelluik - I tried it stupidly again & still dislike it with bells on.

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v26.0.1656.32 on Dec 5, 2014

I suggest people to try Opera themselves.

Carefully analyze then don't listen to FUD.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v26.0.1656.32 on Dec 2, 2014

And another update to the stable branch without a changelog. I found this in the forums:
"Opera Stable was updated to 26 but with new features disabled, because of a bug in Opera 25 that could not otherwise be fixed (and the features not having gone through the required testing yet)."

How in the hell does that constitute stable?!?! Their new found disregard for privacy and piss poor quality control have forced me to remove Opera from my computer entirely for the first time in 10+ years. I guess this is goodbye Opera

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v26.0.1656.24 on Nov 29, 2014

It is improving, slllooooooooowwwwlllllllyyyyyyy. You can forget about customization though which means, for me, this browser will never be my main one. The chrome approach is just not efficient for work flow.

Aside from missing features one of my biggest gripes is intrusion of privacy, very google esq actually. This browser shares every site you visit back to Opera and, surprise surprise, there is no option to turn it off. Unencrypted I might add.

And lastly, here is an example of where their silent updates are an issue. The Opera Destktop Team usually have a post outlining the changes for their releases but with this one, there is none to be found. It is just forced on you with no information or choice. Opera as a company have really changed and not for the better

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v26.0.1656.24 on Nov 23, 2014

Definitely improving over time. Based on Chrome engine. Like it better than Chrome browser. They do need to add more in the way of customization.

Vivek Kowshik

Vivek Kowshik reviewed v26.0.1656.24 on Nov 23, 2014

Quite OK for most parts, but keeps crashing my Win8 installation on a Dell Inspiron 3537. No such problem in Chrome or Firefox.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v26.0.1656.24 on Nov 22, 2014

Heck, everyone knows that even your server knows everywhere you've been!
Sheesh!

I may not like Opera compared to the good old 12 version but hey, this version is okay.

nosebone

nosebone reviewed v25.0.1614.68 on Nov 13, 2014

Opera via its sitecheck feature sends every site you visit unencrypted to servers in Norway. There is no way to disable it and no mention of this spyware-like "feature" in the privacy policy. Until this is changed no one who cares about privacy should use Opera.

qazimono

qazimono reviewed v24.0.1558.64 on Sep 28, 2014

Still using it and miss a lot old Opera.
But this is past and now is the future.
Browser still need some improvements but for sure that will be done in 25/26 version.
Still do no see any competision

smaragdus

smaragdus reviewed v24.0.1558.64 on Sep 27, 2014

The worst browser ever.

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v24.0.1558.61 on Sep 16, 2014

Just die already.

Orhin

Orhin reviewed v24.0.1558.53 on Sep 12, 2014

Same Problem as new Mozilla - Google took over/bought Opera more or less/Opera devs have been thinking the only way to survive is if they discard almost all UI customization features.

Look at the stats, Users running away! Customization is NO thing of the past! People want more built in options and not all available on extensions only.

Seamonkey, Slimjet and Maxthon show what browsers really should feature! Imtelligent options for intelligent people and not crapware like Firefox with Australis or Opera's chrome clone for simple people!

What for a shame!

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v23.0.1522.77 on Aug 30, 2014

A year later and it's still a steaming turd.

Simpler? Try dumbed down. I also don't consider removing options and choices as redundancy. The Developer release is now adding back bookmarks because of the complaints which is funny considering they claimed the reason for their exclusion was that most people don't use them. smh. Maybe one day they just might let you choose your own search engine as the default one rather than the ones they package it with and won't allow you to remove.

This browser is EXACTLY what you would expect when you hear that it uses Chromium, a Chrome clone. Nothing more, nothing less(well, maybe less)

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v23.0.1522.77 on Aug 28, 2014

My browser of choice. I don't get the UI complaint, as it has been fully reformulated a year ago to remove redundancy from the menus, making it simpler and sleeker.

nilst2006

nilst2006 reviewed v23.0.1522.77 on Aug 23, 2014

Once a great browser. Today utter junk !

FrostyZ

FrostyZ reviewed v23.0.1522.72 on Aug 8, 2014

Opera has always been as little intuitive as Explorer to me. Why can't they overhaul that whole cluttered and old-fashioned UI? That's really a PITA.

Qlib

Qlib reviewed v21.0.1432.67 on May 28, 2014

they should just give up on this piece of crap.. either get to work on actual Opera.. or just focus on "web compression" and other mobile stuff, this junk will never go anywhere..

garretthylltun

garretthylltun reviewed v21.0.1432.67 on May 14, 2014

Bashing aside(trust me, I have many choice colorful words for this Chrome based Opera), there is potential for this Opera if they continue to work with it. My biggest complaint has been the lack of bookmark support and some rendering issues.

I'm a bit confused why there would be any rendering issue though since Chrome/Chromium do not seem to suffer from this.

Bookmarks.. I guess they were trying to implement this Stash paradigm but obviously due to user hate mail, err, I mean user feedback they decided to start working on adding the bookmark system. I noticed in this version a disabled menu entry for "Bookmark Importer" and of course there is a bookmarks bar now.

Now it seems that they are trying at least to implement some old Opera like features/functions to this new Opera. IMO they better continue that way or Opera is pointless and one might as well just use Chrome/Chromium.

I offer 3 stars because I've seen worse chrome implementations and they are at least working this program and maybe they will resolve the rendering issue as well as many other things that users have mentioned.

BTW, one more little complaint. I use Windows 7 32 bit with themes disabled, So basically I'm classic interface here and I use a dark color scheme. Opera does not work well with it's GUI. Tabs are light colored as well as the tab text.. Can't read a single tab! :(

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v21.0.1432.67 on May 14, 2014

@Blaxima you say I'm not staying on-topic but I'm not the one who is commenting about what others do or don't do outside of here. You're the one doing that. Funny, isn't it?

BTW, yeah SSE1 support is sooooooooooo important!

smaragdus

smaragdus reviewed v21.0.1432.67 on May 13, 2014

Even miserable Chrome is better than this piece of trash.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v21.0.1432.57 on May 7, 2014

It seems being a Chrome clone still doesn't mean Opera will render pages like Google properly. There goes that argument for switching engines.

More good news though, in an attempt to alienate even more Opera users, this new version no longer supports SSE1 processors(AMD Athlon XP, etc.) so those with older rigs need to look elsewhere.

And to think, rafool is a mod over at the Opera forums. Way to stay on topic and highlight Opera's ........oh that's right, continue on

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v21.0.1432.57 on May 6, 2014

@BooM13 Google's issue which you're mentioning happens because of recent browser sniffing code in Google's page added by Google, not Opera.

Edit: Oh look @Blaxima is already here trolling as usual.

BooM13

BooM13 reviewed v21.0.1432.57 on May 6, 2014

Until recently considered the best browser.
But lately google has changed the old interface.
So i had to change browser.
Maybe in the next version will solve this problem

smaragdus

smaragdus reviewed v21.0.1432.57 on May 5, 2014

@smuttinata
Yes, 12.17 is the good one. I give 4.5 for the good one and zero for the bad one.

smuttinata

smuttinata reviewed v20.0.1387.91 on May 2, 2014

finally version 12.17 has come out... is it the good one????

ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/1217/int/

Qlib

Qlib reviewed v20.0.1387.91 on Apr 20, 2014

this listing that says just "opera" and not opera next should be removed since there is no real opera anymore, just the poor chrome clone...

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v20.0.1387.91 on Apr 10, 2014

Right, so you(rafool) are is just reiterating what CyberDoc already said, no bookmarks manager

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v20.0.1387.91 on Apr 5, 2014

You can use Speed Dial, Stash, bookmarks bar, plus extensions for bookmarks. Not bad.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v20.0.1387.91 on Apr 4, 2014

no bookmarks manager ...

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v20.0.1387.91 on Apr 2, 2014

Not Good

smaragdus

smaragdus reviewed v20.0.1387.91 on Apr 2, 2014

@Zootopia3001
No, I don't agree, Opera deserves not a half star but plain zero. Till version 12 Opera was great, with version 15 it became the worst ever Chrome clone. Opera "developers"- make Presto open-source.

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v20.0.1387.91 on Apr 2, 2014

Tried this again just this last week. Quickly uninstalled. Total garbage. Why am I limited to 1 star? Give me a half star rating option.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v20.0.1387.82 on Mar 24, 2014

I really, really, really.......... did try to make myself like it. However, after all my trying to wish it into a useful and desirable browser I failed. Then I uninstalled it.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v20.0.1387.82 on Mar 23, 2014

5 major version releases with a whole wack of Next and Developer releases and yet, still no bookmarks manager or menu(just a bookmarks bar), still can't use your own search engine as a the default(stuck with the usual pre-packaged suspects), have to jump through hoops to remove the massive google search from the speed dial(In the settings page use arrow keys=up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, b, a. Yeah, cuz most users are going to know to do that).

And how about Opera extensions? Non existent. There is one that allows you to use ones from the Chrome store but if you've ever used Chrome, you know that you need a google account to download many of them. NO THANKS

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v20.0.1387.82 on Mar 22, 2014

Definitely not good.

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v20.0.1387.82 on Mar 21, 2014

Three times the download size, much higher memory footprint than Opera 12, and yet less than one-third the utility. Not a good trade, and, if one wants to use Chrome with another skin, why not just do so, as Chrome has features that Opera is still struggling to implement, or are simply too stubborn or stupid to implement.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v20.0.1387.82 on Mar 21, 2014

Not good.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v20.0.1387.64 on Mar 7, 2014

One of the things I miss most is the built in email client. You didn't have to enable it if you didn't won't to use it and it still used a fraction of the memory that this pig uses so I fail to see why it's inclusion was an issue. It was an option, something the new Opera completely lacks

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v20.0.1387.64 on Mar 3, 2014

Getting better and better. I wont use google's chrome, but as this new Opera continues to flesh out I will jump back to it in a second. No it doesn't need an email client built-in. I hope they leave that out.

smaragdus

smaragdus reviewed v20.0.1387.64 on Mar 3, 2014

The worst browser ever, far worse than Chrome itself.
Opera 12 was very good, Opera 15+ is a disgrace.

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v19.0.1326.63 on Feb 28, 2014

The latest 2 updates only included Chromium changes because they're intended to get it! That's how minor updates in the Stable stream works, obviously! They need to deliver the stability and security fixes included in minor Chromium updates to their users. Blaxima pretends he is dumb just so he can bash.
If you want to see more changes look for the other streams like Dev, they obviously won't appear in minor updates to stable. Get a life.

cyrgh

cyrgh reviewed v19.0.1326.63 on Feb 16, 2014

Opera before the change over to Chrome engine was lovely, fast, small, included an email client and in short everything you needed from a browser. Until v1216. After that it lost its glamor, doesn't support bookmarks (!!!!), no email client either. The changes between versions are infinitesimal. I don't recommend it to anyone. I am still using V1216 and love it. Hope the developers change their mind. Give it 0.5 (not even 1) only for the sake of the past.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v19.0.1326.63 on Feb 14, 2014

Well the last 2 updates certainly should put to rest the claims that this is nothing more than a chrome clone. Why just look at the size of the changelogs that clearly illustrate the efforts of the Opera team

Changelog

19.0.1326.63
Chromium updated to 1700.107

19.0.1326.59
Chromium updated to 1700.102

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v19.0.1326.63 on Feb 13, 2014

This remains a pig, not even the equal of Chrome, but using the Chrome engine, and a half-baked UI on top. I am still wondering where the developers that made Opera so great have gone - they cannot all have died.

So sad that the good name of a once great browser is being besmirched by this garbage.

DrTeeth

DrTeeth reviewed v19.0.1326.59 on Feb 4, 2014

@ mfarmilo

Last time I tried, it would not import bookmarks from my Opera 12.16 (x64) install. This is a sub-standard piece of rubbish - and I am being polite. One star is too generous.

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v19.0.1326.56 on Jan 30, 2014

Opera has unique features.

mfarmilo

mfarmilo reviewed v19.0.1326.56 on Jan 29, 2014

A word of warning if you're currently a heavy user of any other browser and are considering moving to this. Opera currently has NO facility for importing / migrating your existing Bookmarks or Favourites. I know, I really couldn't believe that myself either. There's also no sign of a Bookmarks manager within it, certainly none that I could find. There is a little menu item that says it's for importing bookmarks, but unless you're an existing Opera user you'll notice that it's greyed out since its sole purpose is for importing bookmarks from an old Opera version.

So unless you fancy manually inputting all your bookmarks, steer clear ....

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v19.0.1326.47 on Jan 28, 2014

Nope, this browser is not built from scratch. A Web Browser is a software application for retrieving, presenting and traversing information resources on the World Wide Web. That means that the interface and engine result in a "browser".

There is no way you can use source code from another project and consider Opera built from scratch. No way no how.

To further the point, Opera's old interface looks and functions vastly different from this chrome clone because of one thing, Presto, that's an engine. So you see, the interface that they built is still dependent on the code of others so technically not even that is from scratch.

And this still sucks hard, just like every other chrome clone regardless of the skin they put over top of it and throw in a few bells and whistles. It's painfully obvious that Opera will not reach the levels of usability it once had so long as it is tied to this engine

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v19.0.1326.47 on Jan 28, 2014

@Blaxima
Browser was built from scratch.
Engine was not.

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v18.0.1284.68 on Jan 13, 2014

Opera contributes back upstream to the Chromium project.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v18.0.1284.68 on Jan 1, 2014

Opera ASA seem pretty pleased with themselves;

"On the eve of the New Year, we will take a quick look back at the 60 releases we have had in 2013 since moving to the new release model:

4 major Opera releases
11 Opera maintenance releases
27 Opera Next releases
18 Opera Developer releases"

We are very happy with having released this many updates in such a short time. We except to keep up the development speed and quality level in 2014
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@outofspace,

This Opera is NOT built from scratch, only the UI is. The endlessly updated engine is Chromium. Opera didn't build that, Google does after they forked Webkit which Apple created

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v18.0.1284.68 on Dec 17, 2013

... Just as sycophants will be sycophants.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v18.0.1284.63 on Dec 9, 2013

Haters will be always haters.
New Opera is still a NEW browser, build from scratch.
Comparing with 12 it's much more stable but with much less features.

DrTeeth

DrTeeth reviewed v18.0.1284.63 on Dec 7, 2013

Less features than vanilla Chromium. No bookmarks import. A pathetic effort that brings shame to the name 'Opera'.

Blackholesun

Blackholesun reviewed v18.0.1284.63 on Dec 7, 2013

All versions starting from Opera 15 onwards suck big time ! These new releases are memory hogging monsters and continuously beats the hard disk, i.e. why the hard disk keep on making noise (sic).

I am extremely disappointed with Opera Team ! When the management Team has decided they want to commit suicide then what can anyone do about? I know youthanesia is illegal, but I guess in this case it should be granted, unless the team really has the will to comeback.

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v18.0.1284.63 on Dec 6, 2013

Now you can use all that is good about the chrome engine in an Opera wrapper. It's chrome without the Google smell. And yes they are improving on it as Opera always does.

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v18.0.1284.63 on Dec 6, 2013

@Qlib... Completely agree. This thread should have died with Opera version 12.x. Like comparing a worm infested, rotted apple to a fresh, red delicious apple.

hellbourne

hellbourne reviewed v18.0.1284.49 on Nov 20, 2013

So Google fanboys have released another version of something that doesn't look like Opera one bit. I know it is a freeware browser but it is not a patch on version 12. If you liked version 12, give version 18 a shaft.

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v18.0.1284.49 on Nov 19, 2013

@Qlib you're still here, *that* is retarded.

Qlib

Qlib reviewed v18.0.1284.49 on Nov 19, 2013

it's retarded that they are using this "old thread" with all the good ratings from the pre 12,x series to make it look as if the new "Opera Next" is any good.. it's not.. it's bloody garbage..

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v17.0.1241.53 on Oct 27, 2013

"Page Zoom is back" - Are you trolling? You could aways zoom pages.

Remember that 2 iterations (major versions) of OperaPresto would take about 2 years of development to be released. Each OperaBlink "iteration" comes in about 6 weeks.

I can recommend Opera over Chrome very easily...

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v17.0.1241.53 on Oct 23, 2013

Downloaded to see what has changed. Was pleasantly surprised to see that Page Zoom was back, but severely disappointed to see it does not work correctly.
The rest is just sad. Still no bookmarks, more of the Chrome emulation in the setup area, and very little of anything else to recommend this over Chrome or any other derivative of it.

Two full iterations after leaving Presto and the feature set still sucks comparatively, with an executable size nearly 3 times that of Opera 12. No x64 bit version, and not much else happening.

Just a waste of the download and three hours time.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v17.0.1241.45 on Oct 8, 2013

For those that care here is just more confirmation of features that are not coming back:

Originally posted by thefreeman55:

how about notes will it be back

Blazej Kazmierczakbkazmierczak # Tuesday, October 8, 2013 9:10:23 AM

Nope, please use extension for that or external app.

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The way Opera used to handle notes was great and I used it quite often. I've yet to find a note extension on any browser that matches it.

The mail client that they ripped out is proof it's not coming back either. They have also not updated that one bit. Clearly they were just throwing their loyal users an old bone.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v16.0.1196.80 on Sep 26, 2013

Hey hey hey, what do ya say, here's the massive changelog for today

Update chromium to 1547.76.
DNA-9473 Migration of passwords broke password manager after intake
DNA-1526 Fix for Opera startup crash on OS X 10.6

So yeah, basically a chromium update but hey, it's not a clone.
Clone (noun) - One that copies or closely resembles another, as in appearance or function.

Now one could say that no 2 Chromes are alike because of the various plugins a user could install. You could claim that but you would be a fool, or a rafool as it were. Speaking of, in spite of being a chrome clone, you can't download extensions from the chrome store but rather Opera's own repository which is minuscule in comparison.

Bookmarks are just one of the features I've mentioned that are missing and they just happen to be the one people want back the most. Speed dial and Quick Access Bar are not the same thing and simply don't cut it. I like Speed dials, not the ad for google this one is mind you but in general. They're great and I use it in every browser, just not for every single bookmark I have.

Opera, like Chrome ,uses a huge percentage of your available resources so the amount you have is really a moot point.

The progress is rather disappointing as the Next builds are already feature frozen with the highlight being Themes. Dev builds (v18) are not going to be seeing bookmarks, mail, rss, notes, site specific proxy settings, etc.., etc..

As a one time proponent of this browser it's sad to see not just how they've lost the plot, but how slow the recovery will be if ever.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v16.0.1196.80 on Sep 26, 2013

By the time Opera get round to releasing a usable browser their last user will have moved to a fully working alternative program - And how they could release it with no usable bookmarks is way, way beyond me - I have around 1700 bookmarks & they are absolutely essential, crass stupidity is a fair appraisal - But Opera have been losing the plot for some time before they changed the engine.

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v16.0.1196.80 on Sep 26, 2013

UPDATE: LOL Blaxima doesn't even know what a minor version update means. I'm not reading the rest of his comment neither replying to it.

Yes you cannot bash it as a Chrome clone because it clearly have different features. If you can't see them then YOU are an idiot.

It isn't missing tons of common features, "bookmarks" does not equal "tons of common features". Up to this version we can use Speed Dial to save links.

It isn't unstable nor a resource hog, unless you're using 512 MB of RAM in 2013 of course. Customization options are being added, like the tab bar top area gap A.K.A. Chrome Drag Area. I could give other examples...

We need to give them time since the UI layer is being developed from scratch. The old UI isn't compatible with Chromium framework. This was the only way, please understand that for once! We can't be egotistic saying they should hold the browser final release until it reaches state "X" of features while other users are perfectly fine on using this version benefiting greatly from improved real world websites compatibility and speed.

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v16.0.1196.73 on Sep 13, 2013

How do you get Opera back in the news again?... Change to the Chromium clone engine for constant endless updates. No thank you.

Qlib

Qlib reviewed v16.0.1196.73 on Sep 5, 2013

funny how they use the old ratings for the previous usable Opera to boost the ratings for this crappy version..

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v16.0.1196.73 on Sep 5, 2013

For me, this browser joins Firefox as a former good browser now sadly jumped the shark. Why programmers have to urge to totally revamp something that people like for the sake of change is beyond me.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v16.0.1196.62 on Aug 27, 2013

Wow, some real pompous people starting to do the rounds for this piss poor browser.

My understanding is that we are here to review the software we have been presented, not the vision statement of a company. In it's current iteration Opera is missing tons of COMMON features, is resource intensive, unstable and uncustomizable.

And while you're at it get your facts straight, Maxthon is NOT based on webkit. It's roots are in being a layer for Trident(IE's engine) and have added Webkit as an optional rendering engine and one Opera is not even based on. Opera has started over with Chromium and that's why it doesn't look like Safari(which uses webkit) but Chrome, Google's version of webkit.

Bookmarks are only one of the most basic features this browser currently lacks but that's only compared to the very vanilla Chrome. Compare it to Presto and there is a chasm between the them with many of those features never to return unless some 12 year old decides to create and maintain an extension to replace things like notes, rss, mail, etc..

Finally, saying that someone must be running a dated rig as an excuse for poor resource consumption is rather laughable. One only needs to search the many independent sites that review browsers to see the same thing being said, year after year in regards to Chrome and its appetite for your resources and privacy. Sure it might render more sites with ease and I suppose is it's faster but that means it's only as good as Chrome and it's clones which are all still more feature rich.

I will just never understand what one gets out of brand zealotry. I simply want the best product that suits my needs and for over a decade, Opera was that in a browser. But times have changed and if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, well, yeah you get the picture

Å bb Kbb

Å bb Kbb reviewed v16.0.1196.62 on Aug 27, 2013

Yes,the topic is software and the software is pure crap.

But the problem is it uses the name of a legendary browser and tries to sell you a Chrome skin that barely has functions to render a page and trash your HDD in the process.
Its so bad that they try to convince you that you don't need any of the functions and options of the old Opera because the majority of the user base are morons and that is they new target group.

So why are you surprised?

Did i say that they lie about the features so that people (the old user-base that they trowed under the bus. Microsoft anyone?) don't go away?

This is a browser, but its NOT Opera. Its a Google little bi*ch.

Vivek Kowshik

Vivek Kowshik reviewed v16.0.1196.62 on Aug 27, 2013

Several people blogging here seem to be only concerned about the type of rendering engine that the browser uses, or a missing feature here and there, or the size of the download, but are least concerned about whether the browser does what it has to do correctly, and without issues. If this is true, you are wasting everybody else's time here. Why don't you people just download version 12 of the browser when it is still available, and keep your mouth shut??

It was a well known fact that the Presto engine used in Opera 12 and before had innumerable issues with even the most commonly visited news sites. I have myself reported a number of issues to them, and seen how every new version of the browser came up with newer bugs. I gave up on Opera, and said so in my feedback to them.

Understand this clearly that the old Opera is dead and not the newer versions. As far as features are concerned do you think Opera programmers are as short sighted as you are, that they will have no more to offer than Chrome does right now??? If they want their browser to do well, they will have to add more features to differentiate themselves from the crowd (Have a look at Maxthon. Is it not also based on webkit?? Does it not look totally different?? Does it not do better than Chrome in HTML5 benchmarks??). This obviously takes time, as any one with a little common sense will understand. You guys have proved that common sense is after all not as common as it sounds. I very much agree that the current version is much better and so far I have had no issues at all with it. I am willing to wait till the features are added, to fully switch over. 5 stars for taking the plunge to webkit.

And YESSSS!!! Stop stooping to such levels of calling people insulting names if you have some self respect or decency. Such people have no business being here. The topic of discussion here is the software, and not the people who express their opinions.

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v16.0.1196.62 on Aug 27, 2013

Yes you cannot bash it as a Chrome clone because it clearly have different features. If you can't see them then YOU are an idiot.

It isn't missing tons of common features, "bookmarks" does not equal "tons of common features". Up to this version we can use Speed Dial to save links.

It isn't unstable nor a resource hog, unless you're using 512 MB of RAM in 2013 of course. Customization options are being added, like the tab bar top area gap A.K.A. Chrome Drag Area. I could give other examples...

We need to give them time since the UI layer is being developed from scratch. The old UI isn't compatible with Chromium framework. This was the only way, please understand that for once! We can't be egotistic saying they should hold the browser final release until it reaches state "X" of features while other users are perfectly fine on using this version benefiting greatly from improved real world websites compatibility and speed.

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v16.0.1196.62 on Aug 27, 2013

rafaelluik thinks everybody else is wrong to bash Opera for becoming a Chrome clone. rafaelluik is an I D I O T, idiot. Opera is D E A D, dead.

rafaelluik

rafaelluik reviewed v15.0.1147.153 on Aug 17, 2013

Look for the features being re-added in Opera 17 and 18 dummies.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v15.0.1147.153 on Aug 2, 2013

I wrote basically the same thing as guru for the "Next" releases. Seems they want a pat on the back for what they call a quick release cycle when they do nothing. Features, that's what they are responsible for and they still haven't added bookmarks to this or the Next releases!! But hey, the google search has been fixed, pfft. Too bad I use dogpile, but of course I can't do that with chopera as there are no custom searches, double pfft. This stable is just too featureless for daily use.

I would rather use Internet Explore or Safari on Windows before Chrome. I'd rather subject myself to an anal probe by Freddy Krueger than use this, so yeah, zero stars

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v15.0.1147.148 on Jul 17, 2013

Though they are allowing more Chrome extensions, the only major improvements are coming from Chromium, not from Opera. This means it is getting closer to Chrome, but still lacking - what's the point?

The development team talks about speed of release, but all they are doing is putting the changes from the Chromium team into this version of Opera - not a very difficult job to cut and paste - with screw-ups from the last couple of revisions it is apparent they are not doing much testing before release.

For those using Opera 12, stick with it, or swap to something {anything?} which has a fully developed interface, not a half-baked attempt at skinning Chrome.

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v15.0.1147.148 on Jul 17, 2013

I´m a Opera User / Fan since version 0.01 but this chromium version... I´d rather use SRWare Iron Instead

Qlib

Qlib reviewed v15.0.1147.141 on Jul 11, 2013

Although it's faster with the webkit, it has also lost everything I liked about Opera.. the whole sidebar and all it's features, the massive customization you could do..if I wanted this I would just use Chrome.. now Opera offers nothing different.. Either bring back the old opera with the faster webkit, or just kill opera completely and make a sidebar addon for Chrome..

DrTeeth

DrTeeth reviewed v15.0.1147.141 on Jul 11, 2013

Just imagine the worst browser you have ever used...ever. This is 100 times worse and should never have seen the light of day in its current form. A real sky-high pile of s***e.

littleatlas

littleatlas reviewed v15.0.1147.141 on Jul 11, 2013

New opera seems to be fastest browser at the moment - at least for me. But new opera is serious downgrade compared to earlier builds. It's lacking almost all features what opera used to have.

I really like the speed of the new opera and I hope they will implement most of the old features into opera in future.

LLiamG

LLiamG reviewed v15.0.1147.141 on Jul 10, 2013

This is by far the worst browser out there at the moment. Even IE6 had more features than this version of the Opera browser !

Ignore the 4 star rating... it is for previous versions... Opera 15 does not even deserve 1 star, but that is as low as Betanews goes on the rating system.

What has Opera now done with this version 15 ? Removed EVERY feature that could be of any possible use to a user, and then gives them "Discover" and "Stash" and (WOW) a version of SpeedDial (remember, they invented this) that is non functional, sucks up bandwidth and demands you to scroll scroll scroll scroll just to be able to click on a link that it has now converted your bookmarks to. Heaven forbid you actually have a desktop with a big screen... SpeedDial just remains the same centred colums, needing more scrolling... you cannot arrange them in preset columns or anything.

Useless.

I could go on and on... but won't. This is beyond functional, useless in every way really. C.R.A.P. in fact. So, if you want a frustrating browser that limits you in every way it can, get this... if you want the real deal that this tries and fails to copy, get chrome. There are other options out there... this is not one of them.

Opera 15 should actually just be put out of our misery. Just end it now Opera... this is rubbish !!

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v15.0.1147.141 on Jul 10, 2013

Great!!! Never ending updates just like with Google Chrome. That's what I look for in a browser.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v15.0.1147.138 on Jul 10, 2013

So apparently the backlash has prompted Opera to move towards reinstating native bookmarks for version 16. They claim that 70% of users don't use bookmarks and that's why they did away with them. um, yeah, ok...

That's a start but the amount of things they need to add back to have it function properly will be years in the making (if at all) seeing that they also claim that themes(you know, wallpapers) are a top priority based on......you guessed it, people want(so they say) them too.

No customization options restricts my work flow, not to mention the Google branding I can't get rid of.

I've since moved to Firefox and have added a bunch of add-ons and scripts to resemble the functional browser Opera once was.

If anyone is interested these are the add-ons I use:
Ad Block Plus
Add Bookmark Here 2
Add to Search Bar
Auto Sort Bookmarks
Clone Tab
Download Manager Tweak
Grease Monkey
Personal Menu
Session Manager (also can add a closed tabs button to the toolbar)
Simple Mail
Stylish
Tile Tabs

Also a couple for cleaning up youtube and some scripts for looks. Sadly no speed dial comes close to the one that was found in Opera

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v15.0.1147.138 on Jul 10, 2013

I've used Opera since its very beginning when it was ad sponsored or you could buy the none ad version - I have to say this version is probably the worst browser in the entire world, as bad as Safari for Windows even - I really wonder who is going to use it. Anything is better than this version of Opera - It has no redeeming points whatsoever - I wont install Opera again.

No stars ~

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v15.0.1147.138 on Jul 9, 2013

IF you like Chrome, get it, put a dark skin on it, and be done. Everything about this screams Chrome, yet the developers deny it, after their front office already stated it was Chrome.

It has none of the benefits of regular Chrome, and any hopes of the feature set of Opera returning, with the WebKit/Blink underpinnings, as was promised, have been dashed by the developers in the dev blog, as they are starting out for points unknown. It is going to be a bumpy, not to mention slow [as in number of features adopted, since many of the "frequent" updates have been updates to Chromium] ride, one fraught with all manner of sadness.

Skip it, and either use Opera 12, or move one to Firefox, Chrome, or Internet Exploder.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v15.0.1147.138 on Jul 9, 2013

Have to say, Its jumped the shark.

Nighted

Nighted reviewed v15.0.1147.130 on Jul 9, 2013

You can't even change the search engine to anything other than the "defaults". On next start I'm back with f#$*ing NSA operative Google. D:

FAIL!

1 star is too much.

been

been reviewed v15.0.1147.130 on Jul 3, 2013

At install I went in to 'options' and unselected 'set as default browser' but it set itself as default browser and mail client anyway. That alone earns it a 1.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v15.0.1147.130 on Jul 2, 2013

@cltx99

The rating is an average from many years of good Opera releases. This new Opera is basically the final to Opera Next which you will see has a horrid (deservedly so) rating

That's why I'll just copy my review from that one since it now applies here

I'm sure that when it matures it will not be the steaming turd it is now but, the lack of custom searches, bookmarks and many other things that they have said will not be included are deal breakers for me. Adding them as an extension will simply add another running process and a bunch of icons to the toolbar for something that should be built in.

As if a unified address bar wasn't enough of a pain, the massive google search bar on the speed dial can not be removed. And I'm not joking, the thing is about 4 of your speed dials big. Clearly we see which side Opera is now buttering their bread. Can't get rid of the google search and can't stop the discover page from fetching s*** I don't care for.

The lack of features, choice and customization makes this more like the anti-Opera browser.

smaragdus

smaragdus reviewed v15.0.1147.130 on Jul 2, 2013

A browser without a built-in bookmark system is not a browser, Opera 15 is the worst browser I have ever tried, worse than IE, worse than any other Chrome clone, even worse than Chrome itself- Chrome has bookmarks and offers more customization options. In fact Opera 15 is more Chromish than Chrome, unbelievable and sad.

Opera 15 has no bookmarks, no sidebar, no mail, no irc, no torrent, no rss, no dragonfly, no notes, no gestures, no group tabs, no private tabs, no panels, no skins, no customization. Nothing that defined Opera as a browser is present at Opera 15. Opera 15 is no Opera. Opera 15 is the worst Chromium-based browser.

Opera gives absolutely no reasons for those who use Chromium-based browsers to switch to Opera 15. Opera 15 gives all thinkable reasons for Opera 12 users to switch to another browser.

Opera has not simply become a Chrome clone, it has become a Google wh***. Opera betrayed its devoted users and will lose its tiny market share.

Presto is better than Webkit. If Opera developers make Presto open source, it would outlive the abominable Opera 15 but unfortunately this will never happen.

Years of development have been denied, ridiculed, sacrificed. Opera 15 is no Opera. Opera is dead.

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v15.0.1147.130 on Jul 2, 2013

Yet another Google Chrome.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v15.0.1147.130 on Jul 2, 2013

This is the last time I'll be checking out the new Opera. It simply sucks. I'd give it a minus 1, if there was such a rating. Why does fileforum rate this as a 4 star and call it a pick? I'll "pick" my nose on that one. They've really shot themselves in the foot.

Obat Kanker

Obat Kanker reviewed v12.13 on Jan 29, 2013

if opera have many plugins like firefox and chrome may opera could be the best . i try this version and first time i do, i open my website http://www.cancerhelps.com/obat-kanker.htm and compared with mozilla firefox and google chrome . there's no different time when full page done loaded . smooth scroll still be a plus value for opera . maybe opera must switch off automatic update feature . for me, it's disrupt .

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.12 Build 1707 Final on Jan 9, 2013

The 12 branch has been a bit of a mess. 12.02 for me appears to be the best of the lot. This release has way too many inconsistencies. For example; go to rapidshare and just kept reloading the page. Sometimes the page will load and other times it won't. This behaviour is not present in 12.02 or other browsers on my system.

bogbasic

bogbasic reviewed v12.12 Build 1707 Final on Dec 28, 2012

A great program. I needed a very lean browser for a slow old laptop that kept having fits of disk-thrashing when nothing would work. I also like the idea of browsers that work on all (or most) operating systems. I tried Chrome which was quick but sometimes it would gobble up all the memory, eventually using up half the RAM and killing the system. Opera doesn't do that and its wickedly fast, has a nice slider for resizing text and everything else. Awesome work. I am converted.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.11 Build 1661 Final on Nov 21, 2012

Opera's rushed releases shows a real lack of concern over quality. They simply are no longer listening to their loyal users who are reporting more and more bugs and regressions, seemingly in vain.

For me, flash video players smear down the page when scrolling and the extension preference over sight(see my 64bit review) are reasons enough for me to not only not upgrade but perhaps begin looking elsewhere

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.11 Build 1661 Final on Nov 21, 2012

Sadly, my previous review still holds true. Opera's rushed releases shows a real lack of concern over quality. They simply are no longer listening to their loyal users who are reporting more and more bugs and regressions, seemingly in vain.

For me, flash video players smear down the page when scrolling and the extension preference over sight are reasons enough for me to not only not upgrade but perhaps begin looking elsewhere

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v12.11 Build 1661 Final on Nov 20, 2012

Fatbas****d is slow and buggy

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v12.11 Build 1661 Final on Nov 19, 2012

Opera is slow and buggy.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.10 Final on Nov 6, 2012

@gatorfan95,

masking as IE or FF does NOT mean that Opera is using a different engine, it only has 1. What it does, with a little code, is simply identify itself as another browser when sites do their sniffing. Browser sniffing is generally used by lazy coders who only test in 1 environment and in actuality has nothing to do with the performance of a browser, it's simply a query in the code.

And as far as Opera having such a tiny market share, just look at the top browser, which is IE, and tell me with a straight face that it's because it is the best. Market share is just a reflection of marketing.

Now, as for this release, it's ok. It has made a lot of improvements from the 11 branch but has also added more issues which in the grand scheme of things means it is a better browser albeit flawed. As a photographer I am happy that they've finally included ICC profiles, it's about time damn it.

BUT an issue when cleaning private data that resets extension settings has me reverting back to 12.02 for now

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v12.10 Final on Nov 6, 2012

Not sure who decided that a Release Candidate [RC4] was a Final, but it would be better to double check before making predictions such as this. It may end up being a Final, as many times the RC gets converted without a versioning change - but it has not happened here yet.

dsp_418

dsp_418 reviewed v12.10 Final on Nov 5, 2012

Just getting better and better. Nothing to complain and still one of the best email client ever.

JRice

JRice reviewed v12.10 Final on Nov 5, 2012

my no1 in all browsers

some guy

some guy reviewed v12.50.1583 Beta on Nov 4, 2012

I just installed it and the add block plug-in and it works great low foot print and Chrome sucks!

silvergoku

silvergoku reviewed v12.02-1578 Final on Oct 28, 2012

Opera is a pretty well respected browser and well respected. The latest version of opera x64 handles pretty good and the flash component works well, the glitch of the past seems to be fixed. If it wasn't for the extensions of firefox everyone would be using opera although opera has extensions to. So my advise to everyone is, don't just read the reviews and make a judgement, try the program and see for yourself if you like it or not. One person might have a problem, but that could be a problem not with the program specifically as why is it running alright for me?

donce

donce reviewed v12.02-1578 Final on Sep 25, 2012

I love opera browser but I'm very disappointed with this version. Opera 12 crashes so many times - it's impossible to use it anymore.

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v12.50.1583 Beta on Sep 7, 2012

I am think the same as Music4Ever, did not like opera.
Using Chrome....

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v12.50.1583 Beta on Sep 6, 2012

No AdBlock or NoScript (don't tell me about Opera extensions - they are a joke)

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v12.02-1578 Final on Aug 30, 2012

@blaxima, This is the least used, most screwed up browser available. There is a very good reason it has virtually none of the browser market: it's such a piece of junk that even one of it's founders gave up on it. If I have to "mask it" as IE or FF to get pages to render properly, what's the point of using the thing? I'll use one of the originals and save the hassle of having to switch rendering engines when I visit pages Opera doesn't work on. Call it fanboyism if you want to, the truth is the truth.

dsp_418

dsp_418 reviewed v12.50.1577 Beta on Aug 29, 2012

I hear other users complain about page display issues and stabiliy. It's been true but lately the dev team has done a terrific job. Not only most of the issue are gone (if not all of them - np so far here), but also they improved it a lot! And still, best email client ever.
4 stars for me, if they'll keep working this way it will probably be a 5 stars soon.

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v12.02.1565 Beta on Aug 24, 2012

quote < I am encountering too many site issues >
half the Internet will not render probably in Opera !!!
It's no wonder one of the founding partners of Opera exited the company last year.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.02.1555 Beta on Aug 18, 2012

Because of the instability with flash caused by the Out of Process plugin, they have removed it from this x86 build(for now). This has improved the stability greatly but performance in general is still sluggish and I am encountering too many site issues that work fine in version 11.64 and I get the "Not Responding" message too often.

I find I am using Iron more and more since the release of the 12 branch. Hopefully they actually listen to their users, not censor them and fix this mess

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v12.50.1546 Beta on Aug 12, 2012

I really wonder why anyone still uses this bug ridden software. It was my default choice for many years since it's beginning but the developers lost their way some time ago, page rendering issues have been going on for years.

I'm no longer going to waste my time downloading & installing & hoping that it may have improved as it doesn't.

In my opinion Opera is now the worst browser in the world.

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v12.50.1546 Beta on Aug 12, 2012

I didnt think it possible, but this thing actually gets worse with every new incarnation. It still does not render a great many web pages correctly and it introduces more problems than it fixes every time they come out with a new version. How long has this thing been around and they still cant get it up to industry standards? No wonder their developers are jumping ship.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v12.50.1546 Beta on Aug 11, 2012

This release is handling flash much better than previous one. But still Opera is "not responding" a lot.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.50.1546 Beta on Aug 10, 2012

Flash issues have still not been addressed. They are present in ALL releases within the 12 branch, alpha, beta, RC, stable, all of em

I also find Opera becomes unresponsive when trying to load certain pages.

Perhaps this unstable direction is the reason that the founder resigned a few months back.

On the bright side, the bookmark star crash that was again introduced with 12.50 has been fixed

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.50.1546 Beta on Aug 10, 2012

Flash issues have still not been addressed. They are present in ALL releases within the 12 branch, alpha, beta, RC, stable, all of em

I also find Opera becomes unresponsive when trying to load certain pages.

Perhaps this unstable direction is the reason that the founder resigned a few months back.

On the bright side, the bookmark star crash that was again introduced with 12.50 has been fixed

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v12.01-1532 Final on Aug 9, 2012

Very buggy. Real disappointment!

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v12.50.1538 Beta on Aug 6, 2012

"I know it's an early alpha but this new pattern of releasing broken major versions only to try and address them in a maintenance build soon after is not something I am enjoying having to deal with"

How does this make any sense? You know it's an early alpha, but you are referring to broken major releases. Also, if you don't want to deal with potentially unstable alpha and beta releases, don't install them--use the final releases and don't worry about them

The first 12.x Opera Next builds were very unstable for me although the 12.x final release has been working well. I haven't used the newer 12.50 Next builds much, but when I have, they've been OK.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.50.1538 Beta on Aug 6, 2012

Here we go again. New version, new problems with things that used to work.

All the 12.x releases have regressed with their flash performance. Flash videos smear down the page when scrolling.

Sites that worked in 11.64 and 12.01 don't work here. Also be warned that the bookmark star(address bar) instant crash is back

On the bright side, it does feel quite a bit snappier.

I know it's an early alpha but this new pattern of releasing broken major versions only to try and address them in a maintenance build soon after is not something I am enjoying having to deal with

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.50.1538 Beta on Aug 6, 2012

Here we go again. New version, new problems with things that used to work.

All the 12.x releases have regressed with their flash performance. Flash videos smear down the page when scrolling.

Sites that worked in 11.64 and 12.01 don't work here. Also be warned that the bookmark star(address bar) instant crash is back

On the bright side, it does feel quite a bit snappier.

I know it's an early alpha but this new pattern of releasing broken major versions only to try and address them in a maintenance build soon after is not something I am enjoying having to deal with

@Zeropoint, major releases that became finals have been rather piss poor. 10, 10.5, 11, 11.5, 12 were major releases that in "stable" form were anything but. The maintenance releases that followed them corrected some things that should have been in the finals in the first place. This alpha is heading in the same direction of breaking things while adding new "buggy" features.

Testing new things is fun but having things that worked before break is not very progressive. Most people who are testing Opera over at the blog are still using 11.64 as their main browser yet the Opera team is moving towards another major release in an already broken version

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.01-1532 Final on Aug 3, 2012

Flash regressions that were reported have not been addressed in the final and make Opera boarder on unusable on some sites.

@gatorfan, what you are doing is grossly exaggerating which is generally due to fanboyism. Ever heard of browser sniffing? I rarely encounter pages that Opera can't render properly. Of those, about 75% of them can be corrected by masking Opera as IE or FF.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.01-1532 Final on Aug 3, 2012

Flash regressions were reported and not addressed in the final making Opera boarder on unusable on some sites.

maceteros

maceteros reviewed v12.01-1532 Final on Aug 2, 2012

one of my favorite browser ever, this version is too heavy

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v12.01-1532 Final on Aug 1, 2012

@Blaxima. I'm merely commenting on the fact that this browser still does not render pages properly after years of development, junk is junk. That is real enough for me. What browser I use is irrelevant , it renders ALL the pages I visit properly.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.01-1532 Beta on Aug 1, 2012

All of the 12 builds have flash video regressions from 11.64.

Too much ram is being used and not released

Far more stable than the 12.0 "stable"

4* but -1 for the terrible moderation regarding feedback of bugs on their blog.

@gatorfan: be real, or is that asking too much from a ff user

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.01-1532 Beta on Aug 1, 2012

All of the 12 builds have flash video regressions from 11.64.

Too much ram is being used and not released

Far more stable than the 12.0 "stable"

4* but -1 for the terrible moderation regarding feedback of bugs on their blog.

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v12.01-1532 Beta on Aug 1, 2012

I really dont understand the people who develope this browser. In the 5 or 6 years I have tried it, it STILL does not render 25% of the web pages I visit correctly. Junk

CapZap

CapZap reviewed v12.01.1528 Beta on Jul 27, 2012

Is Trash Can a feature? Hmm. Anyhow, Opera is OK. Both Chrome and Firefox have picked up features from Opera. Opera does not have a big catalog of extensions (neither does Firefox really) so it loses some functionality.I used Opera exclusively for 11 years and now only use it occasionally because I got tired of hitting web pages that under-performed in Opera. It has many, many features built in that you only get with add-ons in Firefox and Chrome, such as speed dial. There is no perfect browser as they all have problems. They don't have the same problems so when one doesn't work, one of the others will. I know nothing about IE as I haven't used it at all since 1997.

knownware

knownware reviewed v12.01.1520 Beta on Jul 24, 2012

A pretty good browser. One of my favourite ones out there right now.

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v12.01.1517 Beta on Jul 22, 2012

missing the save and the save as menu
incredible

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v12.01.1517 Beta on Jul 21, 2012

As usuall, I gave Opera a shot and yes, it's a good browser. However, there's nothing in it that urges me to replace my current browser with it.

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v12.50 Build 1497 Beta on Jul 6, 2012

The installer failed to write file opera.dll. Error code: 87

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v12.50 Build 1497 Beta on Jul 6, 2012

I used to be a fan of Opera, and up until about 18 months ago used it as my default browser. But then something changed. Opera began to feel quite clunky and bloated to me. But this version of Opera Next has me a bit excited about Opera again. The rendering is terrific, and the mouse scrolling is super fast. Better still, the UI is cleaner and the browser as a whole feels far less bloated. I know this is a beta, but I hope the Opera team can maintain the performance of this beta. So far, I am more than pleased with it.

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v12.01.1491 Beta on Jun 29, 2012

installer fail error 87

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v12.00.1467 on Jun 15, 2012

Opera humilated itself last 10 years
the fastest browser
the most innovatov browser (for rush to kiiddie idiotism from professional payware)
thanks for all developers for your browser not compatible with (all) site
download IE FF C free

at last nobodu dont use except some whos dont want join maintrend
IEFFC brainwashed zombies

I think some others killed indeed this project like many good other useable softwares
all project that good for humans killed
you dont know why
but somedody know

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v12.00.1467 on Jun 14, 2012

I like this version. It's 64-bit and pretty fast. The GUI is a little weird though...

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1467 on Jun 14, 2012

I upgraded from 11.64

-noticed my speed dials were way too small as the default setting was less than half of what its supposed to be

-went to give a theme a try but chose to undo it

-BSOD, crash and an automatic reboot

all in about 20 seconds of use

Unacceptable and un-installed

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v12.00.1454 RC4 on Jun 12, 2012

Each RC fixes a few more small bugs, but this one [RC4] is much slower than the last release, so that is a step backwards. Other things are not quite perfect yet - I'm beginning to think that the devs miss these things because the releases, even alphas, ae so much better than any other browser's betas in the first place, that they become complacent about the finishing touches.

shrekorfiona

shrekorfiona reviewed v12.00.1454 RC3 on Jun 12, 2012

Running Windows 8.....Forget Opera. Crashes every time!

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v12.00-1445 Beta on Jun 6, 2012

Opera is still around, Who knew..

-Lord-

-Lord- reviewed v12.00.1433 Beta on May 29, 2012

Well, Opera really doesn't give me anything that Firefox does. It also comes up seriously short in one regard... multiple home pages. With firefox and even IE, you can specify multiple home pages to be opened at browser start or hitting the home button... Opera allows only ONE home page.

Strike two is where opera doesn't render some pages/pictures properly sometimes. A refresh is required. Same pages etc tested in the other browsers come up right first time everytime. It's a work in progress, I realize that, but it should work better when progress is already up to version 12, don't you think?

I give it a two for that specific reason. It's better than Chrome, but not nearly as good as FF... get it better or give it up.

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v12.00.1433 Beta on May 29, 2012

I stopped using the X86 version of this a while back because it was terrible. Figured I'd try this to see if anything has improved. The developers of Opera never really had the bubble in their sights, and they still don't seem to get it. It still does not render about 20% of the pages I tested it on properly. Uninstalled and back to Pale Moon.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1422 Beta on May 28, 2012

So rumour has it farcebook might buy Opera!! Look Zucker, I'm not going to use your useless site no matter what. If you really want my info come and take it from me, see how that works out for you.

This might be the last usable version of Opera and it is getting better from the previous bug filled releases. Still some issues with the plugin wrapper though and apprently some graphical issues but I haven't come across them.

Hope the rumours aren't true otherwise I see a Palemoon rising

umi81

umi81 reviewed v11.64 on May 27, 2012

It just deleted all my bookmarks. Overwritten with empty file everywhere (application, user profile).
Even top users at Opera forum had admit it happens regularly that after (auto!)updates legions of users comes complaining about vanishing bookmarks.
My experience with Opera ends here, forever.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1413 Beta on May 17, 2012

Definitely getting better now.

Opera said that the beta's will be all about bug fixes which is great. The alpha stage was not very test friendly.

@TROLL
You can delete all cookies. O menu>Settings>Delete Private Data. Click on the Detailed Options button. select Delete all cookies

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v12.00.1413 Beta on May 17, 2012

i dont know what canged in Opera House but something changed. read this

"With this release, Opera Unite and Opera Widgets are removed by default for new users."

thanks God, God bless all Opera developers, we crying for this since 10 years if something implement, left the the chance for the users remove that modole or switch off.
5 star
but the next wish
we waiting since 10 years too
go to tools advanced cookies, missing the delete all cookies button, just only delete button and must delete individually 3333 cookies for many hours

RWW

RWW reviewed v12.00.1413 Beta on May 16, 2012

This beta has its problems with the Windows 8 preview as does Maxthon 2. The regular version of Opera works fine as does Chrome.
Thought I would throw that in for those who have wondered.

Hilbert

Hilbert reviewed v11.64 on May 11, 2012

Although I use Firefox* as my main browser (it has more plugins) I still use Opera regularly as it's solid, reliable and a very mature product. Moreover, I've been using Opera since about 1999!

Opera's always had better FTP support than IE. But like IE (and unlike Firefox), Opera has native MHTML support--i.e. save webpage as single archive file [.MHT]--and it's had it for years (Firefox STILL requires the MAFF Archive and/or UnMHT plugins to do the same).

That said, I wish Opera was a little more 'standard' (a la IE or FF) in its UI and setup, but all up it's an excellent product.

@ Bala 7
------------ Reckon you live somewhere in the universe that has warped reality. Opera's rendering engine is excellent and it's been so for quite some years. Years ago, you may have been able to say that Opera had a problem with rendering pages and that was because Opera was W3C compliant whereas web developers were writing for the buggy, non-standard, non-compliant IE. One wonders what sites you're actually visiting.

"Print module is badly broken." With respect to this comment of yours, I'd say it's possible but I've not seen it in this version. In fact, one of the main reasons that I have to use Opera is because of a very longstanding bug in Firefox where FF is not able to paginate certain web pages and thus it prints long pages as just one long page over multiple sheets (p1/1 only instead of say a correct p1/6). Every time I experience this problem Opera comes to the Rescue.

(Please don't confuse browsers' printer limitations with a bug. As far as I'm concerned, unfortunately ALL browsers have primitive printer routines--it's as if developers consider printing web pages as an afterthought--and I'd certainly like to see them improved. Opera is no different to the others in this regard).

* Actually the Pale Moon fork.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v12.00.1406 Beta on May 11, 2012

try Maxthon....

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v12.00.1406 Beta on May 11, 2012

try Maxthon....

maddy143ded

maddy143ded reviewed v11.64 on May 11, 2012

-Ball7
if you hate it so much then get out of here, no one needs a review from an a** like u, opera has been one of the most innovative browsers since Were probably in diapers. I am not saying it is the best ot there for everyone, but it is pioneer of many of the browsing technologies that are standard today...Tabbed browsing, Session Restore, Password save, Autofill etc just to name a few...
(and i am rating high today just to offset that ASS)

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.64 on May 10, 2012

Blaxima,
All the other browsers work unlike Opera which has severe rendering
issues with many major websites such as Facebook and Google Docs and Microsoft's many websites.

Print module is still broken, many CAPTCHAS and shopping carts will not work. I have never pushed any one browser as they all have flaws but Opera has more flaws than all the others combined!

It is YOU are the obvious fanboy.
It is YOU who offer free word of mouth advertising for Opera.
You should try getting a life. At the very least, go to Opera's blog and read the many, many problems users have with the stable branch of Opera

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1406 Beta on May 10, 2012

So far so good, as in no crashes yet. Still not getting desired results for the new css animations though

When looking at the changelog it appears they are stripping away a lot of features; Unite, widgets, IRC and Bittorrent (Mac only so far). Can't say I used those but if they remove the M2 mail client I'll be looking elsewhere.

Still don't understand why they have 2 skinning methods. Skins which change everything and Themes which make it look like a Chrome clone. Kind of retarded and redundant if you ask me.

Mail fetch is still problematic with these 64 builds which is not the case with the 32 bit ones

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1406 Beta on May 10, 2012

So far so good, as in no crashes yet. Still not getting desired results for the new css animations though

When looking at the changelog it appears they are stripping away a lot of features; Unite, widgets, IRC and Bittorrent (Mac only so far). Can't say I used those but if they remove the M2 mail client I'll be looking elsewhere.

Still don't understand why they have 2 skinning methods. Skins which change everything and Themes which make it look like a Chrome clone. Kind of retarded and redundant if you ask me.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.64 on May 10, 2012

Some of these comments are actually for version 12 which is worth pointing out as the 11.6x releases have been quite good. This one is no different.

EDIT @Bala7,
Would that be the same blog where my name appears constantly addressing bugs and regressions?

My ratings vary from build to build, that's called objectivity. You can look it up as I'm sure you haven't a clue what that means.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v12.00.1387 RC on Apr 26, 2012

I have used the build noted here and the actual beta which has just been released by Opera. I can only echo what has been written below my comment.
Also I am not sure just how much the desktop team listen the the feedback when it is noted at just how many crashes and issues the browser has whilst in Alpha stage. They continue to develop and innovate (silly camera thing) whilst very very basic bugs and crashes or rendering issues just seem to get completely ignored.
I am amazed at how long Opera have been in business of developing this browser and yet it still has some very big major issues to do with simply using it.
Just go and read the comments posted about how useable this browser is before giving it a go.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1387 RC on Apr 25, 2012

Here's the thing. the x86 builds are not great and these are even more problematic so.......

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1387 RC on Apr 25, 2012

A Beta Release Candidate? really?

What every you want to call it, it's a mess. But don't take my word for it. Just head over to the Opera Team Desktop blog and see for yourself. Version 12 build after v12 build of the same complaints; constant crashes, inability to use drag and drop on maps, garbled text, blurry fonts, sluggish performance, massive resource consumption, UI glitches and errors. Yet, in spite of this they keep on trucking along with new builds as if progress is being made. Perhaps that is just what browser vendors do now a days but I don't like it.

I have been a big fan of Opera for many years and not only recommend it to everyone but installed it on clients systems. This just might be the time when all that changes.

11.63 is still quite stable but has issues with the lack of support of many things that would prevent it being a long term solution

I remain hopeful but haven't been given any encouragement thus far

Yogurth

Yogurth reviewed v12.00.1387 RC on Apr 25, 2012

This is not RC, this is Alpha to Beta RC

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1372 Beta on Apr 17, 2012

version 12 is still in the alpha stage

Maybe I'm missing something, though the response from other users says otherwise, but they keep adding things that don't work and neglect ongoing crashes that make testing undesirable to say the least

4 builds ago=CSS animations HTML 5, 64bit version. All buggy and not working properly

2 builds ago=improved addressbar suggestions. because that's a pressing issue

this build=some camera gimmick

The 64 bit version also crashes when trying to retrieve mail with the built in client

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1372 Beta on Apr 17, 2012

version 12 is still in the alpha stage

Maybe I'm missing something, though the response from other users says otherwise, but they keep adding things that don't work and neglect ongoing crashes that make testing undesirable to say the least

4 builds ago=CSS animations HTML 5, 64bit version. All buggy and not working properly

2 builds ago=improved addressbar suggestions. because that's a pressing issue

this build=some camera gimmick

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.62 on Mar 31, 2012

@Bala
and the other browsers steal ideas from Opera, like tabbed browsing, get a clue and save us from your fan boy rhetoric.

Why has fileforum merged the 11 and 12 branch, Firefox has like 15k different ones? oh well

11.62 Good and stable. It's missing some things that they've added to the 12 branch but unlike the 12 branch it is rock solid.

12.00 The latest one adds a bunch of things like CSS animations(finally) but just like these releases, it doesn't work as expected. I continue to get crashes with this branch

11.62=4*
12.xx=2*

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.62 on Mar 28, 2012

Second rate rendering engine continues to have problems with many major websites displaying all elements.

Print module is badly broken. Skin is plain ugly. Devs almost never listen to users.

Opera is a toy for small children.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v11.62 on Mar 28, 2012

It has now been released for Android & is quite brilliant - By far the best on that platform.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v12.00.1351 Beta on Mar 27, 2012

This used to be my default browser but as Opera sort one issue they go & create another one, hopefully they will get it right soon.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1351 Beta on Mar 26, 2012

New 12 release, new reasons to crash. This has been the most unstable branch I've come across in all my years of using this browser. I've filed multiple crash reports with each release.

This has a pretty hefty change log highlighted by a 64 bit option. That option however has opera running 2 processes though as there is an extension container now.

oh well 11.62 isn't as exciting to some of the zealots but it works and that works for me

jnew3

jnew3 reviewed v12.00.1351 Beta on Mar 26, 2012

The Triple Crown of Browsers...take it for a spin

jnew3

jnew3 reviewed v12.00.1325 Beta on Mar 9, 2012

Runtime Error in Windows

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v12.00.1325 Beta on Mar 7, 2012

After years of downloading and deleting versions of Opera, I decided to give this version, "Opera Next" a shot. I really didn´t expect much, but was pleasantly suprised as to how good it was once you get used to its controls and setup. I downloaded it on both of my PCs and so far this version of Opera has been flawless. Although extension poor, there's enough to get me by, with Adblock, translation, gmail and weather. To be honest I haven´t really checked out all of the extensions, so I might find some nifty surprises. I suggest that those who have been disappointed with Opera to give Opera Next a thorough try.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1317 Beta on Mar 2, 2012

Another 12 release and another nasty crash. This time if you try to print any page it will result in an instant crash

They've updated the core engine which does seem to make it a little snappier but it has not improved any of the site incompatibilities I have.

On the other hand, 11.62 is coming along nicely. I've been using it as my main browser but it too has some issues with printing. It won't crash but it also won't print more than the first page.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v12.00.1312 Beta on Feb 26, 2012

catecover - Is a scammer, trying to advertise program from Guangdong Province,
P.R.China.

Go away.

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v12.00.1307 Beta on Feb 23, 2012

1307? that is so 37 seconds ago. latest wahoo build is 1312. (8

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v12.00.1306 Beta on Feb 20, 2012

To be fair & honest I actually did a C image & installed Opera. I really wonder what is going on in Oslo, this used to be a first rate browser, it now takes an age to setup & in almost none functional. A great pity.

I will keep trying however.

juanito1968

juanito1968 reviewed v12.00.1301 Beta on Feb 13, 2012

To be true this is the Opera Next release, an Alpha build, not a Beta one.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1301 Beta on Feb 13, 2012

Firefox rules?!?! give me a break. It has and continues to be rubbish praised only by zealots.

Opera has fixed the nasty crash caused by starting with sessions but for me the performance is still suffering.

They've introduced with this build "Do Not Track" which allows browser users to opt out of being tracked on the web. BUT it will only work if the site actually honours the request. Few sites currently do

Also, I really can't understand why they have added themes. Themes are basically a striped down chrome skin without the possibility to edit as the theme contains only a background image. So now there are 2 different skinning methods for 1 browser. Why? I'll take better site compatibility please

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v12.00.1301 Beta on Feb 13, 2012

Congrats to the Devs for all the enhancements!

From a Firefox fan.

HeilNizar

HeilNizar reviewed v12.00.1301 Beta on Feb 11, 2012

Hey author, find something more useful to do, go fishing or collect stamps or something.

Firefox rules now.

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v12.00.1301 Beta on Feb 11, 2012

Attention hospital staff ... patient needs attention stat ... about to go into cardiac arrest ... NEEDS ATTENTION STAT ... give it the attention it needs and keep it alive ... hate to see it die like Netscape and others.

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v12.00.1301 Beta on Feb 11, 2012

R.I.P.
never forget

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v12.00.1289 Beta on Feb 8, 2012

IMHO Opera have lost the plot totally.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1272 Beta on Feb 1, 2012

Same issues with sessions. Crashes every time

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1256 Beta on Jan 31, 2012

This is the lowest rating I've ever given Opera.

After upgrading Opera would crash on start every time when a session is enabled. The crash dialogue displays the last page/tab that was open even when choosing to restart without tabs, unite or extensions.

Version 12 snapshots have been very disappointing and this is the worst of the lot for me

@Bala7
In my experience the word sycophant better describes Mozilla fans

EDIT
Build 1272 has been released and has the same problem. Opera's quality is starting to slip as they seem more interested in innovating rather than just making it work

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v12.00.1256 Beta on Jan 29, 2012

Re: Opera 11.61 / 12.00.1256 dev
A simple look at the official opera beta forums will tell you nothing has changed. 50%, that's right, half of Opera posters continue to be critical of ongoing rendering problems. Google docs, Facebook issues persist. Many CAPTCHAs broken, Print module is badly damaged ... the list goes on.

@Vivek Kowshik,
sure they fix some at the expense of breaking others.

There are Opera sycophants all over the net accusing anyone critical of this formerly great browser of trolling. Also, sever censorship at the official opera beta forums, but the truth eventually come out in public. And that truth is: Opera is a toy not a modern browser.

MikeTechno

MikeTechno reviewed v12.00.1256 Beta on Jan 29, 2012

I absolutely love Opera, but still can't get this new version 12 to run properly on my quad-core 64-bit AMD Windows 7 system. It installs, but will only show a blank, black box when run. Is this version not 64-bit capable yet?

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v12.00.1256 Beta on Jan 28, 2012

@Vivek Kowshik, With due respect to you I have used Opera since the very beginning & actually bought it to remove the advertising 'box' at the top of the browser many years ago :-)

I have made many comments in Opera forums regarding issues, a good friend of mine continues to use Opera.

BUT on the basis of your comments I will give Opera another try out. At the moment I use Pale Moon & I do really like that FF clone.

Vivek Kowshik

Vivek Kowshik reviewed v12.00.1256 Beta on Jan 27, 2012

This is a response to "Input Overload" and "d***justice". Have you reported the site to the developers, that you found not rendering in Opera?? You can do it from within the browser menu > Help > Report a site problem.... I did this several times in the past, and let me assure you, I was surprised by the speed with which they sorted it out. The problem vanished in the very next version. And I have not seen the same problem again.

I think Opera developers are really paying attention to what feedback they are getting. I am writing this review in the latest build of Opera in Ubuntu. Believe me I like it as much as Firefox.

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v11.61 on Jan 25, 2012

I tried this browser when it first came out. Struggled with the first few incarnations trying to figure what the authors were striving for and gave up. Figured I'd see if anything had improved...it hasn't. Pages still don't render properly. Set up learning curve is steeper than a ledge on the Matterhorn. Start with junk, end with junk. I wont try it again.

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v12.00.1211 Beta on Dec 19, 2011

Once again, Betanews comes in late to the party.

After trying, unsuccessfully, to install this on my older machine, which runs Vista, I went to the site to see that the latest revision [build 1213] is up, and note from a few people running Vista about the problems with the 1211 build. Since I had checked this morning at around 2 AM PST for a newer build, Betanews must have gotten a build that was only up for minutes, being quickly supplanted by 1213. Build 1213 works fine thus far, with the major point being that its installer works to completion on my machine. This is an example of how quickly the dev team responds, and how quickly problems are taken care of.

For the very few minutes I have had it working, I see nothing wrong, beyond the glitches with the minimize, maximize, and close buttons, which has already been noted, and a long term solution worked on. Since this is an alpha, not a beta [noted before download that it is a snapshot!!!] and it does most that I've tried perfectly, with the problems noted on their way to repair as I write this - 5 stars for build 1213.

BTW, the hardware acceleration really is working, however, it is not as tuned as what I experience with the hardware acceleration on Chrome. It will come with time. This is an alpha, and nowhere close to as ragged as some of the Chrome betas [I've never run the Canary builds, so can't comment on those.]

Karol Mily

Karol Mily reviewed v12.00.1211 Beta on Dec 19, 2011

Excelent browser. Still needs more work.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v12.00.1191 Beta on Dec 9, 2011

It's still only got 2% of browser use, the problem I find with Opera (I actually bought it some years ago to get rid of the advertising that Opera used) is the silly time it takes to customise & the amount of sites that still don't render correctly.

Opera still sticks to the story that it’s the other browsers that have it wrong, but living in the real world users go with a browser that is easy to setup, use & renders sites correctly.

For years I stuck with Opera despite having to have a separate browser to render sites that still elude Opera. I’m no longer willing to do this – It seems I am not alone looking at posts in the Opera forum among other places.

dickjustice

dickjustice reviewed v12.00.1191 Beta on Dec 8, 2011

good browser but still doesn't work fully with face book one of the Internet most popular web pages. if they can't get it fixed in the final version of 12 then i'm switching to chrome.

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v11.60 on Dec 7, 2011

create secret operaupgader.exe in local/temp folder and communicating on net like malware trojan spyware method
uninstaleed opera forever
no more test
12 08 2012
opera died

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.60 on Dec 6, 2011

Good but my use of Opera is drawing to a close after using it since it's beginning. Chrome takes only 5 mins to install & setup, Opera is a pain to setup & if you use betas it’s even worse.

Opera still has far too many sites than don't render properly or not at all. I actually installed Chrome to render the many weather sites I frequent that Opera still fails on, now I prefer Chrome. I won’t comment again on Opera as it’s being removed off all 3 PC’s.

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v11.60 on Dec 6, 2011

Been using it constantly for about 5 hours this A.M. This is a good stepping stone, and many small bugs have been fixed, but is not what those of us in the Opera community are looking for. That remains a part of the revision 12 release. For Opera lovers, a must have, for others, a good introduction, but not necessarily a huge difference from the last three incremental releases.

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.60 Build 1180 Beta on Dec 3, 2011

Printer module still badly broken.
If you need to print webpages to printer or PDF, Opera is horrible.

dsp_418

dsp_418 reviewed v11.60 Build 1180 Beta on Dec 3, 2011

Opera is simply getting better and better. The Mail client is awesome, nice design, cool features. It replaced Thunderbird for me, even though it's still missing the calendar. This release adds speed improvement, better stability, better html5. Starting to love this browser!

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v11.60 Build 1180 Beta on Dec 2, 2011

11.60 build 1180, which is not a beta as the download link on the main page says, but a Release Candidate. The last two betas have been trouble free for me, so this might follow the Opera ritual of actually being the GOLD release.

Speed improvements, on a machine running Vista on an old Athlon XP processor, so they really show! Mail improvements, usability and interface.

Somewhere during this beta cycle, the change was made to enlarge the opened window, by default, for looking at the downloadable skins for Opera. A great improvement.

No GPU acceleration yet, promised to be coming soon. By the way, Opera is faster on this machine than Chrome or any of its derivatives, due to the fact that it is single CPU. Not many are still on single CPU these days, but it is something to consider. Besides, the UI of Opera is the best available!! [5 stars thus far, with no problems perceived on the RC]

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v11.60 Build 1177 Beta 1 on Nov 30, 2011

THIS IS NOT A BETA!
It's still early dev version

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v12.00.1155 Alpha on Nov 16, 2011

It may be an Alpha but it sure doesn't feel like one!

Mail client improvements are just no.1

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v11.60 Beta 1 on Nov 10, 2011

This version has a bunch of improvements, well worth investing.

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v11.52 on Oct 19, 2011

Well Input Overload i tink they use Chrome.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v12.00.1105 Beta on Oct 14, 2011

Opera 12 alpha! Not a beta!

guti

guti reviewed v12.00.1105 Beta on Oct 14, 2011

Finally with GPU acceleration!

shroom

shroom reviewed v12.00.1105 Beta on Oct 13, 2011

Never had any issues with CAPTCHA.
Never had any issues with carts.
No spywares neither keyloggers inside.

Trolls being trolls, as usual.

And yes, eternal betas, but this is a beta-place right ?

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v12.00.1090 Beta on Oct 10, 2011

There is good reason why Opera is 2% of less of worldwide market share...
Print module is a disaster.
Presto rendering engine has problems with many major sites including Facebook.
CAPTCHA does not work 50% of the time.
Shopping carts do not work 30-40% of the time.
Many crashes with Apple quicktime plugin.

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v12.00.1090 Beta on Oct 10, 2011

Open .mht again fine.
Not basic html and java or ecmascript compatible browser at all.
Adblock NO
Keylogger YES
Spyware YES

roman313

roman313 reviewed v12.00.1076 Beta on Sep 28, 2011

Eternal beta.
No 64-bit version under Windows.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1076 Beta on Sep 28, 2011

This is not a beta, it's still in the pre-alpha stages.
A new feature has been added that was previously discussed back in '05 and that is the ability to bookmark and/or add to speed dial using a star now found inside the address bar, very similar to chrome. But I don't like it. In it's current form it will not allow you to place pages in any of your bookmark sub folders which I find rather pointless.

Performance seems to have taken a hit somewhere as well as it no longer scores 100% on the Acid3 test.

Still blows that false claims browser from mozilla out of the water though

The 12 branch mail is not compatibable with previow builds either so I've gone back to 11.51 for now

@baki_princ
use this extention for youtube.
https://addons.opera.com...ions/details/extendtube/
it will allow you to play video on tab focus so that would mean 1 less click than you even you are hoping for. it has other very useful options too

baki_princ

baki_princ reviewed v12.00.1076 Beta on Sep 28, 2011

wishlist:
1. remember zoom ( you know..like ever other single browser on net)
2. groups on speed dial for better organizing (home, job, private, sport)
3. mouse gestures for go to the top of the page and bottom of the page (like fire gestures in firefox)
3. one click for play on you tube videos, not 2 clicks.
4. by defoult start with speed dials not with last openend page, i dont want my kids too see what did i watch them b4 them. its bad for privacy. you just cant start with last openned page.

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v12.00.1065 Beta on Sep 20, 2011

not hande .mht
dont open

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1065 Beta on Sep 15, 2011

This pre alpha now has full ECMAScript (JavaScript) 5.1 support. It seems to be managing memory better now too.

Being a pre alpha I have had a crash but it is good enough that I am using it as my main browser.

Really looking forward to this getting to the beta stages to see what features will be added to go along with its improving performance

eehsun

eehsun reviewed v12.00.1065 Beta on Sep 14, 2011

Note that this is not a beta release, heck it is not even an alpha release :D
Great piece of software on the other hand, though (as great as a nightly/weekly can be.. :D)

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v12.00.1065 Beta on Sep 14, 2011

Love it. Can't live without it.

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v12.00.1065 Beta on Sep 14, 2011

1065 has been out for a whole day. someone at betanews is slackin'! by far and away the best browser.

JNEW

JNEW reviewed v12.00.1060 Beta on Sep 11, 2011

having an older computer, Win XP SP3, 512Mb Ram i find this browser extremely faster than others....keep up the good work team

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.00.1060 Beta on Sep 8, 2011

Finally upgraded from version 11.11 to 11.51 as 11.50 was a little problematic for me. Thing of it is though that I have encountered some java issues with every release since 11.11.

This release seems to use a fair bit more resources than 11.51 which was an improvement on 11.50's consumption

baki_princ

baki_princ reviewed v12.00.1060 Beta on Sep 8, 2011

download twice everything , cant belive they didnt fixed that bug

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v12.00.1054 Beta on Sep 7, 2011

Your browser is not compatible, please download free
- Firefox
- Chrome
- Internet Explorer

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.51 on Aug 31, 2011

The final installed without issue, no problems as of yet. An excellent browser I run along with Chrome. I don't understand why more don't use Opera, it really is a great browser. It's very customisable too.

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v11.51 Release Candidate 1 on Aug 24, 2011

I might switch to Opera.

DACWILSOL

DACWILSOL reviewed v11.51 Release Candidate 1 on Aug 24, 2011

Much better performance and stability.

baki_princ

baki_princ reviewed v11.51 Release Candidate 1 on Aug 24, 2011

can it remember zoom already?

baki_princ

baki_princ reviewed v12.00.1047 Snapshot on Aug 17, 2011

can it remember zoom already?

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v12.00.1047 Snapshot on Aug 17, 2011

Seems like previous Yahoo issue has been resolved.

Nevertheless, the resource usage is considerably higher than present stable version.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v12.00.1042 Snapshot on Aug 6, 2011

Must be an Alpha release for sure.
Can't read news.yahoo.com properly.
After all, it's only one of the major websites.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v12.00.1033 Pre-Alpha on Jul 28, 2011

fix is so when you right click on a link and pust t you get a new tab
chrome and ff do it that way

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v12.00.1033 Pre-Alpha on Jul 27, 2011

opera 12 is a big improvement in stability and speed
chrome iis too slow, ie not usable and ff a resourses hog.

baki_princ

baki_princ reviewed v12.00.1017 Beta on Jul 7, 2011

i just wanna know can it remember zoom already?

Old Faithful

Old Faithful reviewed v11.50.1074 on Jul 2, 2011

A Step Backwards, design needs to be re-examined

It may be fast, but for the first time in a long while (I have been using Opera since the pay-for days 12 years ago), I am reverting to a previous version. Not being able to save pictures in ebay-cgi pictures is a deal breaker for me.

There is enough already with Yahoo mail not working right, Google reducing functionality to Google Search (try to specify an image size for image search, for example) and other reduced functionalities that have accumulated over the past couple of years.

Fortunately with Opera I still have the choice to revert to a better version instead of downgrading, unlike what Google, Yahoo and the rest of 'The Cloud' is imposing upon its users.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.50.1074 on Jun 28, 2011

This is the same as RC5 which didn't resolve some glaring issues.
Basically what's new is:
New Presto engine
Featherweight skin
Speed dial extensions

They are claiming "20% faster rendering of CSS and SVG" but it doesn't display some of my style sheets the way they are supposed to be rendered. I've sent them the files and fully expect them to resolve the issue in the next build.

The extensions manager page is having issues as it moves at a snails pace and consumes 100% cpu

The new Featherweight skin is incomplete

I will pass on this update and wait for the bug fix release to this one. Till then 11.11 is all I need

KateChopin

KateChopin reviewed v11.50.1074 on Jun 28, 2011

Opera has now introduced Opera 11.5 for Windows and Mac, so go to download your version now http://www.kaawish.com/2...era-11-5-as-web-browser/
This version gives greater space to work and display.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.50.1074 on Jun 28, 2011

Brilliant, installed a few hours ago & given it some stick. Now my default browser. Chrome not as good at the moment. I also deleted FF 5 a few days ago due to it being a piece of junk that I found I had to force myself to use. I don't give a pigs burp if you disagree with me.
You think you are right but I know I am. Smoke that.

@Blaxima, you can't help being a Canuck. - ''The extensions manager page is having issues as it moves at a snails pace and consumes 100% cpu' .

No problem here, are you sure you are connected to the Internet? What bandwidth do you have?

Changes:-

'Opera 11.50 also introduces password-synchronization between computers, plus features the new "Featherweight" user interface. This features a brand new toolbar icon set, tweaked colors and buttons, plus a tweak that makes the Home and Fast Forward buttons now optional rather than a mandatory part of the user interface.

Opera 11.50 also includes the latest version of Opera's web-page rendering engine, Presto. Opera claims that Presto 2.9.168 renders CSS and SVG elements up to 20 per cent faster than before, plus introduces support for additional HTML5 standards as well as other enhancements.

Other notable changes include improved Gmail IMAP support in Opera's Mail component, plus sharing of cookies between extensions and the browser, meaning you'll no longer have to log in separately when using a browser extension.'.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.50.1068 RC2 on Jun 25, 2011

Resource consumption has gone down for me which is a huge plus

BUT

RC3 does not load style sheets properly. In version 11 the files are loaded and displayed properly.

The new default skin is too Chrome like for my liking. No drop down in the address bar, no home icon, smallish blue icon set ala chrome, menu button looks horrible when dragged to other toolbars, etc..

Hope this doesn't become a final because their tendency of pushing out RC's as finals has me concerned. I will not be updating from 11.11 to this regressive version if that's the case

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.50.1068 RC2 on Jun 25, 2011

It's on the far right. You need to select 'Customise' to move it left.

I like Opera more and more, I've been using it since it was pay for, just a whisker behind Chrome.

@Blaxima the home icon is there if you look. Again I will say if you go into 'Cutomise' then drag the icon from the top far right to the left if that's how you want it. As for the icons you can use other Opera icon sets without problem.

In effect in less than 10 mins you can have it looking like any other Opera browser. I have had no issues & I have accessed 100s+ of pages with this release

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v11.50.1068 RC2 on Jun 25, 2011

Where is the home page button in this RC version of Opera Next????????

Jambon

Jambon reviewed v11.50.1068 RC2 on Jun 25, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPkSjtbL8Bw

guti

guti reviewed v11.50.1068 RC2 on Jun 25, 2011

JCookes, I guess you are confused with the fast version numbering in Chrome, not in Opera.

Did you try Opera yourself? Take a look here http://www.opera.com/docs/history/ and you will notice and 11.0 is from the end of 2010...

JCookes

JCookes reviewed v11.50.1068 RC2 on Jun 24, 2011

OK!

Final tomorrow, 12.50 the day after, 12.50 final next week, 13.0 in 10 days....

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v11.50.1067 Beta on Jun 24, 2011

Moving in the wrong direction with this one. With the lack of hardware acceleration, many might wonder why bother upgrading from 11.10 - and the case can certainly be made. This UI change is ugly, and not useful except insofar as it does give more screen space, which may be important on a netbook, or tablet, but nowhere else.

The removal of the MRU dropdown from the address bar is a giant step backwards.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.50.1067 Beta on Jun 24, 2011

baki_princ, maybe you are no brighter than you were 10 years ago. i had no problems & you can still do as you please with the 'new' interface.

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.50.1067 Beta on Jun 23, 2011

Opera's print module is broken. Highlight some text on most any webpage and print your selection. Compare print formating with any other browser. Also, Opera's new to 11.50 "Featherweight" UI is plain ugly.

JavaScript completely corrupt. Run the test yourself and compare with others.
http://test262.ecmascript.org/#

baki_princ

baki_princ reviewed v11.50.1067 Beta on Jun 23, 2011

yeah man i remember 10yrs ago i had problem to makw work their mail. omG same problem 10yrs after?

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v11.50.1054 Beta on Jun 23, 2011

Its process still hangs and I have to go into tskmgr to close it, and I STILL can't figure out Opera Mail!

baki_princ

baki_princ reviewed v11.50.1054 Beta on Jun 22, 2011

seriously i just need from opera to remember zoom !!! ( and mouse gesture for jump to the up of the page and down) and yes multi group(pages) of speed dial like in firefox

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.50.1040 Beta on Jun 15, 2011

Along with Chrome I use Opera & I love it. Runs very fast, maybe faster that the latest Chrome dev.

dvd04444, Go & Spam elsewhere!

hap8192739

hap8192739 reviewed v11.50.1040 Beta on Jun 14, 2011

Can be hard/complicated to configure .. on the other hand, it is highly customizeable andincludes it's own email client, irc client , and sever client in the form of UNITE to provide file sharing.
Unlike most other browsers, it provides a suite of functions

terryjackson

terryjackson reviewed v11.50.1036 Beta on Jun 10, 2011

OMG The Speed Dial Browser has a new beta :O

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.50.1036 Beta on Jun 9, 2011

A good browser on a par with Chrome. Streets in front of Firefox (Any version). Well done guys & femmes in Oslo.

And it's impossible to scrub a comms room floor. Shows you have never been near one! You really are a grade one idiot. ROFLAO

Scanning... 'Forum Moron Detector 3.0 Beta'. (Faster scanning speed. Better moron detection & more accurate name)

Two Morons Found:- 14 seconds:-

http://www.betanews.com/profile/Uriel
http://www.betanews.com/profile/Output%20Overboard

Uriel

Uriel reviewed v11.50.1031 Beta on Jun 3, 2011

It ain't over till the fat lady sings. Better than the Google Spyware browser, but not as good as Firefox.

Seventeen years of scrubbing floors in the comm rooms might drive anyone insane. Food for thought!

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v11.50.1031 Beta on Jun 1, 2011

Used a web site that utilizes java ... logged into my hotmail, yahoo, gmail accounts ... logged into my secured bank account ... browsed amazon.com and used google without any incidence of negative behavior ... finally, posted this message after navigating all the preceding without any problems whatsoever. The browser seems to work just fine and as fast as could be expected from a web browser. I think I could spend all day testing the browsing capabilities and not run into any major issues.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.50.1031 Beta on Jun 1, 2011

It's a dam good browser & wipes the floor with any version of FF. I am no Troll. I have 17 years experience of working with IBM / Clones & spend my working life in comms rooms.

I don't know what your problems are Phat Esther but I suggest you look elsewhere as you continually have issues with programs I have running 15 hours a day without any issues. You have issues with just about every program you review. More than 5 stars.

And yes it is bloody true, whatever you think. And I'm no kiddie.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.50.1027 Public Beta 1 on Jun 1, 2011

All opera extensions install failed with error message "Error: This extension is invalid."
All of them 39.
Gmail https not working.
Not just in this version but the last year all versions.
Full incompatible with basic html and script language.
Presto renderless engine.
Auto Tab sucking.
100 new kiddie function inplemented but noone disable checking of.
1000 bug.

Hard trying writing awesome brilliant 5star and all other troll review but that not true.

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.50.1027 Public Beta 1 on May 31, 2011

JavaScript engine is completely broken. Opera is the only modern browser to break standards. Run the test yourself and compare with other browsers:
http://test262.ecmascript.org

GerritWittesaele

GerritWittesaele reviewed v11.50.1027 Public Beta 1 on May 31, 2011

@developers,

Times are advancing guys, you cannot keep on drooling over Speed Dial till the end of times.

Overall this is still a shallow, empty browser, where even trying to customize toolbars is a close to impossible mission, and the bare features a modern should have do not exist at all.

bob68

bob68 reviewed v11.50.1018 Beta on May 31, 2011

One thing Opera really should get a lot more credit for is its built in mail client.

it's actually one of the better IMAP clients out there.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v11.50.1018 Beta on May 27, 2011

1018 feels much faster than before (load and page rendering).
I can even access Yahoo! beta mail now!

Too early to talk about overall stability (on visiting different web sites).

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.50.1016 Beta on May 25, 2011

No problems, I run Opera along with Chrome devs. Both are excellent browsers.

Output Overboard - 'Eurotrash? I don't think so.

Which sister or cousin are you married to?

cyberguy

cyberguy reviewed v11.50.1015 Beta on May 25, 2011

@SuzzyWoozy - The guy's trolling you. Ignore his lame ass.

Opera is one of the great browsers out there. I personally use Firefox simply because I have been using it since version 1 not necessarily because I think it is better. I certainly prefer Opera as my #2 over any version of IE though.

SuzzyWoozy

SuzzyWoozy reviewed v11.50.1015 Beta on May 24, 2011

@Output Overboard: name a browser that in your opinion deserves respect and is something you can use on daily basis.

Once you'll do that, I will tell you at least 10 features it has that were "borrowed" (read: fail to innovate and stole) from Opera ;)
--have you looked to the FireFox recently? LOL

What with this bulls*** about "Eurottrash"?!? Are you for real? We are in 2011 you redneck!

I have all the respect toward the Opera creators who, regardless of the low market share, keep improving this browser by bringing new features.

Output Overboard

Output Overboard reviewed v11.50.1015 Beta on May 23, 2011

Buggy crap developed for Eurotrash monkey boys.
Nothing but a pigs burb. LMAO!

@ScuzzyMuzzy - Are you talkin' to me?

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v11.50.1015 Beta on May 23, 2011

Better than Google Chrome is one thing.
Don't insult the best, Firefox 5b2!

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.50.1015 Beta on May 23, 2011

This has to be the fastest slickest browser ever. It makes Firefox seem like it was developed by apes for apes. If this is the way Opera are going, it's for me going to be better than Chrome. (Did I really say that?) Yes & it's true.

Brilliant.

DaComboMan - I’ll insult who & what I bloody well want to, Firefox 4.5/5.xx beta is clunky garbage - With bloody great bells on. So bugger off.

Was that politically correct?

And Chrome - Any version blows Firefox into the weeds! Why do you think it's gaining market share exponentially?

Oh BTW, I assume you have installed Chrome & Opera next? (Today) Or are you another phantom reviewer?

SuzzyWoozy - Output Underload is just trying to wind me up, he follows me around the net like a lost lamb. I think if we ignore him he might get fed up. And he is not from the UK. You are probably right with the 'Redneck' that made me laugh. lol. I don't mind being called a 'Limey' BTW. I've lived in TX & FL.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.11 on May 22, 2011

bad choice

some guy

some guy reviewed v11.11 on May 18, 2011

good stuff

dazed_00

dazed_00 reviewed v11.11 on May 18, 2011

@Bala7 I believe this is a beta version of Opera. To report bugs in beta or alpa versions of Opera, post it here: http://my.opera.com/comm.../forums/forum.dml?id=31

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.11 on May 17, 2011

once again rendering issues with many websites has not been fixed.
CAPTCHA, shopping carts rarely work. Print formating is simply terrible.
Now JavaScript compliance is also broken. don't believe me, run the test yourself and compare with every other browser.
http://test262.ecmascript.org
Opera is a toy.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.11 on May 17, 2011

I like Opera. i like Chrome. you can keep the rest, for these are by far the best. BTW according to the installer this is a Beta.

Bala7, it was not far behind IE9 in the test & did much better than Chrome stable.

Moving back into the real world, in normal use Opera runs fine & as I mentioned it is a Beta. I can't see how your results work out as one star. I still regard it as one of the best.

To call Opera a 'Toy' here & on the forums is simply silly & churlish.

g4qber

g4qber reviewed v11.10 on May 11, 2011

space bug still present

with turned off in opera:config
grey rectangle in opera chat
crashes in OSX, when dragging opera chat tabs between 2 instances of opera

check out bugs at:
http://my.opera.com/g4qb/blog/

however it fixed the 120% zoom bug

Calc_Yolatuh

Calc_Yolatuh reviewed v11.50.1009 Snapshot on May 5, 2011

Stunningly slick. A few more parser bugs squashed. But supposedly neither Hardware Acceleration nor the COMPLETELY NEW HTML5 PARSER (emphasis mine) will be ready in time for this release. There are improvements to the extension API (extensions can use the Speed Dial slots now), password sync is now being tested, and this "Opera Next" branch will automatically update when each new snapshot comes out. (more info: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/991/)

maddy143ded

maddy143ded reviewed v11.50.1009 Snapshot on May 4, 2011

we should really have a changelog included whenever we have a update to any software, it tells us of the changes made in the software since last update and lets us know if the devlopers are serious about remving glitches in their software

some guy

some guy reviewed v11.50.1009 Snapshot on May 3, 2011

good stuff!

qazimono

qazimono reviewed v11.10 on May 1, 2011

Great piece of software

hedley

hedley reviewed v11.10 on May 1, 2011

Superb!

laptopy.net

laptopy.net reviewed v11.10 on May 1, 2011

Phat Esther is classic moron.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v11.10 on Apr 27, 2011

I wish they made browsers like Opera or at least close to it. Opera gave us an year back what today all the advanced browsers do.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v11.10 on Apr 27, 2011

@Phat Esther: Unsuccessful Troll Is Unsuccessful.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.10 on Apr 23, 2011

Not support this browser, please download free Firefox or Inernet Explorer.
Most of pages wellcome message to Opera.
I asked some web designer why not workin their pages for Opera?
Everybody laughing, hahaa Opera, thats not browser. Not compatible with html standards. Making pages with FF or IE just some minutes and ready, but for Opera that dozens of days or weeks or impossible at all.

Calc_Yolatuh

Calc_Yolatuh reviewed v11.10 on Apr 14, 2011

New IMAP support is working fine! New Turbo is actively faster and prettier! I personally prefer the new Speed Dial, but the forum has tips for the rest of you: http://my.opera.com/comm...ums/topic.dml?id=960172

One tiny cosmetic skin bug, with the trashcan. Beyond that one thing, it all just works fine.

EDIT: This extension greatly improves customisability of the Speed Dial: https://addons.opera.com...forcespeeddiallogos/1.2/ and it appears to only have been made possible by new features in the extension API.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v11.10 on Apr 13, 2011

5 stars, all work perfect.

The 1 stars comments down here all only trolls.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.10 on Apr 13, 2011

Runs well, I'm not sure I know what a 'kiddie browser' is as opposed to a ''professional' one is though.

I feel at the moment the quality of Chrome, Firefox, & Opera is quite similar & it's getting down to personal taste as none of them are startlingly bad browsers.

I have Chrome Dev on, IE9, & Opera. Not a lot between them IMHO, though not an IE fan.

I have 1700 working bookmarks, I have yet Opera to crash on any I've used & so far & no rendering issues that I have noticed in real world browsing. (Unless you cling onto a list of sites Opera has issues with - Um paranoid people)

I have purposely given Opera some stick which I can do as I have a very fast fibre connection after reading the doom reviews here. Certainly far more than 50% work, & so far 100% of sites work OK.

A good 5 stars.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v11.10 on Apr 12, 2011

Working just fine here.

Wonder what the problem was for the last two n.....?

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.10.2092 Snapshot on Apr 12, 2011

The good old way again. No any bugrepaire just implemented dozens of new. Looks again kiddie browser not an professional. Idiot and irrigate contour on speeddial thumbs. 50 percent of internet pages false render or not at all. Wellcome to the good past bughilland again FluteCamp users.

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.10.2092 Snapshot on Apr 11, 2011

Opera dropped SSE support so they can use older cpu's.
This must be a joke! This will slow overall browsing down on any machine manufactured within the last 3 years.

Calc_Yolatuh

Calc_Yolatuh reviewed v11.10.2092 Snapshot on Apr 11, 2011

Testing, 4.1 looks pretty sexy. New Turbo swaps in WebP for JPGs, further 50% reduction of most images with better quality than before. Cleaner thumbnails everywhere. Delicious advanced IMAP support. Reduced memory use. Extensions API improvements, including better ad-blocking integration. New Dragonfly and better debugging output.

And this clears the road to 11.50!!

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.10 2083 RC2 on Apr 9, 2011

Final should be good.

Techguy22

Techguy22 reviewed v11.10 2083 RC2 on Apr 9, 2011

Opera just keeps getting better!
I really like the improvements they have made to Speed Dial and HTML5.

The current version is RC3 and they are planning to release RC3.1 on Saturday which fixes a crash when entering full screen mode and RC3.11 on Sunday.
RC4 and RC4.1 will be released on Monday. The final version will be released sometime on Tuesday if no major issues occur.

Calc_Yolatuh

Calc_Yolatuh reviewed v11.10 2083 RC2 on Apr 8, 2011

Entering the machinegun RC phase. Possible final build next week, but there's probably at least one more RC due on Monday.

New IMAP improvements are damn sexy. Especially since their social site now includes a 1GB email account with IMAP support.

New dev tips up for Speed Dial.

RC3 introduced some crashers by rolling back a couple fixes that caused performance/formatting errors. This is why I expect an RC4 on Monday.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.10.2081 Beta on Apr 8, 2011

some bug repaired

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.10.2081 Beta on Apr 7, 2011

Now this is more like it!! This build is actually a Release Candidate and for good reason. After a couple of oh hum betas, on the same day, one day later this comes out with a massive change log to boot remedying most of my issues.

The speed dial still isn't as functional as I'd like but they squashed all the bugs I came across while using it.

Speed is good, stability is good, resource consumption is good, I really can't say anything bad about this release. Now this is the Opera I remember

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v11.10.2077 Beta on Apr 6, 2011

This latest version makes Opera go in non-responding mode almost instantly.

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.10.2077 Beta on Apr 5, 2011

testing latest build 2079
Opera is no longer the most standards compliant browser.
No, NOT the Acid3 or Sunspider tests which test almost nothing. Run a real test yourself: http://test262.ecmascript.org/#

rjparker1

rjparker1 reviewed v11.01 on Apr 5, 2011

TO:Smokingcat

What are you stupid? If a website isn't supported by a browser it's not supported, where is the intelligence in that thinking mr wizard?

TO:Sephiroth

You must be related to Smokingcat

Enough said.

So to reiterate what Jack and Phat Ester said.. Opera SUCKS.

Tried many versions, they STILL can't get it right.. If I could give a ZERO I would. This software is worthless

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.10.2077 Beta on Apr 5, 2011

FINALLY!!! The smearing effects that were introduced 3 builds ago are gone.

But then there's that speed dial, hmm. The old one could have empty dials which didn't look good but the new one constantly moves them based on sizing and add/removing dials so they will rarely be were you remember them

Best of the beta builds however by a country mile and there have been 2 released today. build 2077 and 2079

Memory consumption in 2077 is less than the last final however build 2079 consumes more which shows the inconsistency of the 11.10 branch

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.10.2076 Beta on Apr 5, 2011

I too have found the smearing issue problem.
The thumbnails were, in speed dial, fine until they had decided to redefine them. Now they are borked and half of them still display empty boxes.
Rather then try something new with speed dial why not complete the work with tab stacking, like being able to save a stacked set of tabs etc.
Still the usual website issues and rendering problems.
Opera now is more of a curiosity that I play with on occasion rather than use as a browser.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.10.2076 Beta on Apr 4, 2011

This build was released on Friday and I'm not laughing

Still has smearing issues when scrolling a site with updated graphics, images smear while scrolling a site that is still loading and it smears embedded video and music players on a page when scrolling too. Seeing as just about every other site means I encounter these problems I would stay away from this build that otherwise is very stable.

The speed dial continues to be borked up by the Opera team. Last build had blurry thumbs created and this one tried to compensate and has made them way too sharp resulting in jagged fonts and edges with some thumbs. Thumbs also do not respect the aspect ratio of your screen or the widow size so every thumb is 4:3 which creates a lot of wasted space.

To answer the question below, the new flow dial means no more having designated spots for the dials. So if you group your dials and add or remove one somewhere else, everything shifts(s h i f t s is not a swear word!?!) over one ruining any grouping structure.

@hedley
We review each build we are presented based on how it performs, not on what we think it will be down the road when it is released as a final. Why is that so hard to understand

Calc_Yolatuh

Calc_Yolatuh reviewed v11.10 2067 Beta on Mar 30, 2011

Liking the new speeddial, not sure what Blaxima is trying to get it to do...? Now supports a framework for optimizing the content displayed in Speed Dial, also supports Web Open Font Format (finally), and CSS linear gradients. The API for extensions now supports tighter content-block integration than ever before.

Some very old development bugs are due to be fixed before release, and a change on GMail allowed them to catch a rare javascript error that will also be patched now.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.10 2067 Beta on Mar 30, 2011

This build has introduced a new bug which is odd considering this is a bug fix release. When scrolling on a site that updates graphics every few seconds the graphic will smear down the page as I continue to scroll.

Still doesn't handle Java applets properly and I am forced to use SRW Iron. As a long time Opera user this one is getting really frustrating.

The new speed dial is prettier but less functional and I have, for the first time since they introduced it, abandoned using it.

qazimono

qazimono reviewed v11.10 2067 Beta on Mar 30, 2011

Opera has added a stack of new features to the new browser including the promise of a more versatile Speed Dial mode that tries to make it even easier and faster to access your favourite sites than before.

The number of Speed Dials is now unlimited - thanks in part to a new Speed Dial flow feature, which opens new Speed Dials dynamically as you add them.

Customization options now include new layout choices, and an improved zoom slider that lets you fit even 5-column layouts comfortably in your monitor.

There is also easier plug-ins settings that can now download plug-ins automatically and install them in the background, as well as adding support for CSS3's multi-column layouts and gradients, the Web Open Font Format (WOFF) and Google's WebP image protocol.

hedley

hedley reviewed v11.10 2067 Beta on Mar 30, 2011

It's still beta i really don't understood people who comment like it was a final product.
On this stage i dont have any problems so im using as primary browser

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v11.10 2067 Beta on Mar 30, 2011

Changelog
Core
CORE-37518 (Google maps breaks due to a miscompilation of ECMAscript)
CORE-36960 (Non-repeated background images become repeated after going back in history)
CORE-37418 (Faaborg blog crashes Opera)
CORE-37328 (Crash when opening RSS feeds in background tabs)
CORE-36945 (Unable to save an image in photobucket)
CORE-32849 (Crash on exit)
Further crash fixes: made possible by your uploaded crash logs

Desktop
DSK-156307 (Console messages should include a timestamp)
DSK-209000 (Error Console does not remember position and size when re-opened)
DSK-240600 (No SVG console error)
DSK-276359 (Tab activation order wrong when minimizing tabs)
DSK-312094 (Not sending referrer when using Middle Click or using mouse gestures)
DSK-329214 (Crash on exit after viewing a downloaded file's properties from the download tab)
DSK-330073 (Tab opened using window.open with location bar enabled and width set to 400 pixels or more not visible)
DSK-330971 ('Submenu, MI_IDM_AUTORELOAD_TOGGLE_PARENT, Full Reload Menu , , "Icon"' crashes Opera)
DSK-331018 (Crash when adding mail filter rules in new labels dialog)
DSK-331140 (Context menus not working in edit controls on Declarative UI dialogs)
DSK-331428 (Crash when deleting bookmarks)
DSK-330987 (Custom label icons are lost on restart)
Further fix for a crash that happens after having blocked content

Windows
DSK-328543 (Plugins can prevent Opera from shutting down)

Linux/FreeBSD
DSK-331155 (Main bar buttons are moved to the right when hovering with KDE and GTK styling)
DSK-331065 (Boxes appear for each installed Extension after maximizing Opera from the systray)

krgood

krgood reviewed v11.10 2067 Beta on Mar 29, 2011

I have tried to use Opera over the years and recently tried to use the mail option which is missing a lot of necessary functionality. The browser has issues as well. I use a commercial virtual and slide show program in my work and tried to use Opera with it but no joy. Opera will not load add in's properly, The slide show tech support refused to support me if I used Opera so had to abandon it. Contacting Opera about the issue got no response. Opera is a good idea and the design is nice but it just does not work. Opera, take it off the market until you get a good working version, then when it works properly, do enhancements...you are killing yourself by trying to enhance when the basic offering does not work,,,

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v11.01 on Mar 28, 2011

@Phat Esther: Your comment is not supported, please install brain in your head

Opera FTW.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v11.01 on Mar 28, 2011

@To_JackRegan:
JackRegan? Troll

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.10.2064 Beta on Mar 28, 2011

Best to stick with the finals as they seem to make a pigs ear of Betas & go back a hundred years.

Tip for Opera coders, leave the bloody thing alone!

If you must fiddle with it concentrate on Opera comparability with sites as that's the main & for me only problem Opera has.

2 For the Beta.

5 For the last final.

mytake4this

mytake4this reviewed v11.10.2064 Beta on Mar 27, 2011

Opera just come up with strange issues, like one site Opera works well with Mac version, but the Windows version refuses to load the data from cnbc pre-markets. They still have the old bookmarks system, which is harder to work with than others.

Opera has cool features, like Rewind, but overall it is the lack of extensions, such as the really great Ad Block, and not working with some sites which holds it up. There are some sites which render the same, some off, and some do not work.

Want a browser with email, just get SeaMonkey Beta, and move around the address window and eliminate a bar or two, and you have something slick. It is snappier than IE4, and renders sites correctly. At 100% to 150% sites look great in SeaMonkey. Presently I have moved to Chrome10 which is sleek, fast, lean and renders well. Just a very capable and easy to live with browser. My vote is for Chrome10. Opera has cool features, but too many issues to deal with.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.10.2064 Beta on Mar 26, 2011

I sort of keep positing the same things because the same issues exist.
Website rendering issues is one of my main gripes. Some sites crashing and other which refuse to render correctly. All are reported and some are detailed in their own forums and their desktop review threads. However over the years the situation has not got any better.
One of my banking sites refuses to allow me to login and the other one has its columns all messed up. Again reported, also to the banks who told me to use a more std (!!) browser.
Tab stacking is useful but why can I not save the tab stack...?
The new style of thumbnails is something I'm having an issue with as about half of mine are blank. This is a totally new install and not an upgrade.
Whilst the Opera team are quite innovative I do wish that they would get back to the roots of the browser and just make it work with many of the sites which fail., like Yahoo mail. Regardless of their claiming to only work to certain standards and the issue is with poor coding on the developers part it is easier to change the browser than the rest of the world.
I really do want this browser to work and be more stable and render pages as it should. Over the years I have come to realise that isn't going to happen. And judging from their pitiful market share I'm not alone with that thought.
Shame on you Opera.

jarip

jarip reviewed v11.10.2064 Beta on Mar 26, 2011

A great browser - my favour one. We have many great browser now - Opera, Chrome, Firefox 4.0, IE9 and QtWeb 3.7.2 - just try all of them and pick up the one you like ... if you never try QtWeb, just try it and you might like it, you will feel the speed ... a short add, I use Opera with yahoo mail and gmail - the both works fine ... please just do not care that Google is using gmail for marketing of their own browser (laugh) ...

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.10.2064 Beta on Mar 25, 2011

It seems Opera do a little step ahead after 3 years running to backward. After MS replaced IE6 with IE9, must change to good way if not want to be a world useless browser. Many thing must do and many bug must will repaire. Lot of wok, hard wok will next time in Opera history. We are patiente and eplies all error. First must write standard basic HTML compatible browser making. Not just the half inmternet want we using, we want see all homepages. In 2008 Opera lost the ability to continues 9.27.8841 and changed 9.50b1 some month ago in summer. It was too much Hawaii and Sex on the Beach. Yes must go back to computers and trying cacth the others. We will not help.

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v11.10.2064 Beta on Mar 25, 2011

I wouldn't want to be without Opera on my computer ... it has worked for me when others wouldn't ... might not work all the time or render all the time but it fills in the gaps when I need it.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v11.10.2064 Beta on Mar 25, 2011

Phat Esther:
Good lord you're annoying. Every single review of yours is exactly the same. Stop embarrassing yourself for chrissakes.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.10.2048 Beta 1 on Mar 18, 2011

test result Opera 11.10.2053 beta ! ! !

This was the shortest test ever ! ! !
After start install exe just immediatelly exit.
Meanwhile all I have previous version installable.
Come on FluteCamp so close the Big Step.
I really say put my head into snake.

just last word before for all people working 5 star and trollered moroned and idioted me.
quote from opera blog
"WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes, and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all."

yes, its not work at all

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.10.2042 Snapshot on Mar 16, 2011

I haven't had any major issues, I have Opera & Chrome 11 Dev's installed & I like them both.

BTW Phat Esther is apparently visiting Earth a week on Wednesday.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.10.2042 Snapshot on Mar 15, 2011

What was the first sentence on desktop team blog?
This snapshot also re-enables synchronization through Opera Link for the new Speed Dial.
Thank You for if some poeople crtiticized me for when I told speeddial overwritted the preconfigured setting with automatic in the previous version.
This means how tested or how not somebody and compare versions.
Dont forgotten I told for 2 years the Opera is the slowset browser except IE6 and always named me troll idiot moron or other and atlast BetaNews create the the first big browser compare when Opera was the slowest except IE6.
Ater 3 weeks Opera rewritten render engine and kick off Chrome and Safari.
Nobody told me sorry Esther forgive me.
No problem.
renamed back to alpha from beta +1 star
repaired gmail but fall back secure to http yet, must repaire too
yahoo mail beta not compatible just FF IE and Safari, thinking why
youtube video and bing not working -1 star
bank account working +1 star
bughills az usually
I see something changed in opera programmers they working again not just imitated like last year
Something happened, good news.
we hope again

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.10.2042 Snapshot on Mar 15, 2011

So far so good. Never had any of the crashes that others had but one of the previous builds wiped all my passwords. Build 2033 saw memory rise again with a leak. I also had page flickering issues with Flash

This one however is running a little leaner and not leaking. No page flickers but I have a problem with java raised windows, I can't reopen them on the same site. Speed dial is still a work in progress.

I'm not used to Opera releasing so many hit and miss builds. This one isn't a miss so far but it's also not a hit yet.

roman313

roman313 reviewed v11.10.2040 Snapshot on Mar 15, 2011

This is 2040 better then 2033, but memory used very big.
Up to 2 hours of work memory up to 2Gb, and my computer has only 2Gb!
I must to restart Opera every 2 hours

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.10.2040 Snapshot on Mar 14, 2011

Keep in mind this is a development build NOT beta.
Yes it will crash as Opera 11.1x is in alpha stage.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 14, 2011

I would really enjoy being more positive about this build but it would simply crash way to often for me to do anything other than remove it. Whilst I appreciate that these builds are a development snapshot this one is not stable enough to test it out.
I do not like what they are doing in the changes to thumbnails and speed dials.
I would be much happier if they just concentrated on stability and website compatibility.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 13, 2011

Agree with Betachecker.

Worse beta (ever?) in a long time.

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 13, 2011

For the first time in many years using opera this version is crashing, lots of memory usage.... looking for the next beta

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 13, 2011

got an error during install so i'll wait for next beta. so i rate it a 3 even though i didnt test it. lol

qazimono

qazimono reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 13, 2011

great browser with fast perftomance. No problem at all

roman313

roman313 reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 13, 2011

This is a ONE BIG BAD.
Dont install.
Works normally 1-2 hours,
after this begins swapping to disk, memory usage about 2Gb !
Even mouse don't answer and jumping, I must restart Windows to work next 1-2 hour.
Express panel show 1-3 previews, waiting 3-7 seconds.

wrangler44

wrangler44 reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 12, 2011

mytake4this, I went to the site you referenced and it displayed correctly. I wonder what is different with my Opera install and yours? That page displays corectly with every version of Opera that I have used.

laptopy.net

laptopy.net reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 12, 2011

Smooth and fast

hedley

hedley reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 12, 2011

Better and better with all the respect Opera is miles away ahead from other browsers.

Betanews should have ignore options for trolls like legion user

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 12, 2011

There are many improvements in the speed dial, but the first thing you might notice is that thumbnails are now generated differently.

Instead of always generating a thumbnail of the whole page, Opera intelligently tries to find a representative part of the site to display. To do that, it searches through all the images on the page and scores them based on size, position and file name. For example, an image called 'logo.png' in the top left corner will be a good candidate. Opera will make a thumbnail of the surroundings of that image, making it clearer which site is in the thumbnail.

Alternatively, it's possible to specify exactly what your page's thumbnail should look like. If your page knows how to handle the 'minimized' view mode, Opera will use that in the speed dial. If you don't need a dynamically changing thumbnail, you can specify an image to use for your page by linking it in the page's like this (the image should be at least 114x114 pixels):

legion

legion reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 12, 2011

Crash after crash. Piece of garbage.

mytake4this

mytake4this reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 11, 2011

Questions: Will the new Opera work with sites like cnbc to display the Dow Mini.
This is the site http://www.cnbc.com/id/17689937/site/14081545/ and Opera never has been able to display it. I have found other sites which for one reason or another will simply fail.

The other issue is bookmarks which you can not easily delete from a drop down menu. For the most part, it is pretty interesting, including an unusual email client.

(updated 03/13/11) Still have found no way to get that site to display the current data, and this is using the latest Beta version. Sorry, but it appears that Chrome and Firefox 3 & 4 remain a better choice in browsers. Opera is also way behind in useful add-ons (extensions). As a Netscape turned IE fan, then Firefox, I am now using Chrome. FF4 is very good, so it is a toss-up between it and Chrome. Well, I guess I could give a thumbs up to those at the SeaMonkey project for keeping a Netscape all-in-one alive.

Seems that Opera does not remember the per site setting for resized pages - another problem using it. Not a bad browser, so perhaps a rating of 2 or 3 is fitting.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 11, 2011

The first browser on Earth that crash on every move, click and all other that you do. No any bug repaire for previous versin new bughill. Opera bughill tallest than Kilimanjaro. Some days ago we get totally buggy alpha release lost speeddial and password magic and today get crashy + rest buggy. We waitng for the next release, whats new bugs again. Gmail almost working in this release, thats wonder, better working if you select identify as Firefox, but I dont know why, interesting.
rating: -1 *

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 11, 2011

Not pleased at all with these last few alpha builds. Last one wiped all my passwords.

This one seems to have memory consumption on the rise again and there appears to be a small leak again.

Tab and thumbnail animations seem to get stuck at spots when dragging them around.

Not a fan of how the new speed dial functions

Still a great browser but I too have Iron as a back up now as there seems to be some issues with java windows when i try to reopen them

EDIT. build 2039 is now available and is an improvement over this one but still has some issues unresolved

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 10, 2011

Now my favourite & default;t browser, I still run Chrome which is as good but I prefer the Opera skins. Both fast, both good. both beat Firefox into the weeds.

BTW This is an Beta, expect issues! As Opera usually have many Beta's before final.

Phat Esther, This release has been running for some hours & I haven't had a crash, lock-up, or any issues WHATSOEVER. I suggest you look elsewhere on your system as this Opera Beta runs fine here. Maybe you have um malware? to be honest I think you are mad.

mytake4this No problems with the Canadian site from your URL via Opera.

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v11.10.2033 Beta on Mar 10, 2011

I am as big a fan of Opera as anyone, and use it as my main browser, with Iron as backup, but these are extremely buggy builds, as designated by their ALPHA designation by the Opera team.

Perhaps they should at least be so listed, so as to not get others thinking that Opera can't release a quality beta - usually by the time the designation becomes BETA, they work like many other's GOLD releases.

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v11.10.2025 Alpha on Mar 9, 2011

Opera helped me recently when I couldn't use either Firefox or IE to run a Java application and it also helped me over 10 years ago when I couldn't run IE on Windows 98 so I have it on my desktop for those emergencies when the others won't (or can't) run and I'm in a bind. I normally use FF and have a version of Chrome as my default (mainly because of its sandboxiing and security) but Opera has its place beside them.

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v11.10.2025 Alpha on Mar 9, 2011

I just love Opera and cant live without. It works very well on my system and never, I mean, NEVER had a crash.
@ Phat Esther: Funny but NOTHING you say happens here, Speed Dial OK
10 Star Browser

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.10.2025 Alpha on Mar 9, 2011

Yes its alpha.
After you install you see the first and most important changing.
This version overwrite your fine preconfigured speeddial settings.
HAHAHAHAHA
THANK YOU OPERA, THANK YOU, really really big innovation.

True lost all pasword 141KB (hundreds), what doing Opera I dont believe my eyes. The Magic Wand incredible lost forever.

to Betachecker
speeddial settings moved from speeddial.ini to operaprefs.ini with automatic settings and you dont see this, that is the funny

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.10.2025 Alpha on Mar 8, 2011

Opera is getting more like it was a few years ago up with the best. It's the best looking browser if that's important. I run it with Chrome dev builds. Opera is very fast but not the way to go if apps & extensions are needed. I really like it

And to be honest it's the browser I like using the most (again) & I've just set it as the default. Chrome still as good.

I have over 1700 working bookmarks and I can count on one hand how many Opera has issues with.

Phat Esther, all your 'reviews' you give all de sofrwarez um 1 star, you is de idiot, big time. Maybe you make de um browzer?

Memory use is high, they need to sort that. But not a problem here.

400 Stars.

DudeBoyz

DudeBoyz reviewed v11.10.2025 Alpha on Mar 8, 2011

I like this better than Chrome, but not better thane Firefox 3.6.x

It does a pretty good job, but it lacks the massive community support via plugins and addons that Firefox has, and as a result I don't feel comfortable rating it the same 4 stars I do Firefox.

With Firefox, there are a lot of options out there even for the same plugin/addon function many times, so I can find the one that is the most stable and capable and works best for me. Opera (or chrome for that matter) just doesn't have that level of support yet, and for me that is important.

BUT, Opera is not a bad browser. It's just a bit behind Firefox for me, but still better than Chrome. I look forward to the next version to see what it can add to the mix.

JackRegan

JackRegan reviewed v11.01 on Mar 8, 2011

Opera? Crap.

jb64

jb64 reviewed v11.10.2005 Beta on Feb 21, 2011

As mentioned previously, memory usage has improved (by about 10%), but other than that, site compatibility hasn't really gone anywhere either way for me and in this version they have introduced a new bug of not being able to click on a window to bring it to the front unless you click on the tab or the title bar.

I can do my banking and most of the normal stuff I do same as before. Hitting the enter key on search boxes to initiate a search on some sites that was slightly broken (could hit the search button instead) is no longer broken, but overall no better and no worse.

Those sites that were overall not working still don't (e.g. photobucket.com, or bandcamp.com where I still cannot play a music file, let alone download a purchase). Firefox, and IE work fine. I'm glad I don't use yahoo/google mail as that seems broken about every 2.5 minutes. There are lesser music sites where playing music doesn't work properly either. Masking opera as something else seems to do absolutely nothing these days.

And why the f**k don't stacked tabbed save? I mean what's the point if I've got to stack them every time I open the browser? Save those little tabbies together!!!

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.10.2005 Beta on Feb 20, 2011

Google Instant will not work stating that I need a modern browser, masking etc does not matter.

Yahoo mail has stopped working in this build, it is like a yo-yo with it working in one and then broken in the next. Classic will work though.

eBay's help page, on how to return an item etc, all the hyperlinks would not show up in blue.

My banking site has stopped allowing me to login again with this build.

Little formatting issues on other websites contribute to making this browser impossible for me to use as my main one without having to keep reverting back to IE or FF to get around issues that have plagued Opera for years.

You can come up with all the fancy names you want for your code names. And be as innovative as you can, like tab stacking. But for goodness sake just get the browser to work as it should on a basic level and be compatible. Maybe then you will grow some respectable market share.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.10.2005 Beta on Feb 19, 2011

Beware the link on Phat Esther's review was flagged as Malware by Malwarebytes.

Opera is a good browser & getting better, I run it alongside Chrome Dev's.

alshawwa

alshawwa reviewed v11.10.2005 Beta on Feb 18, 2011

wow Phat Esther take is easy , its just a browser nothing more nothing less.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.10.2005 Beta on Feb 18, 2011

Welcome the "Bugs remains the same" version from Led Fluttelin. After 24 hours test it seems we get again fastestic (about 20-30% feel) browser. Less crash but not less false render. Incredible irrigate falses compare with IE9 Ch10 FF4. Not basic html compatible at all. After almost one month hard working without reapire any bug, not big thing. Opera say this release a BIG step for opera browser history, yes, and little step back for the users lifetime. Opera lost the browser war forever, not now, just now, below tha last ten years continously.
PC era is over, over without any useable opera browser.
All other browser smooth and fine handle this site, just open in opera and scroll down, sorry try scroll down.
http://tvu.org.ru/index.php?show=show&bst=B
All other browser fine hadle youtube videos, watched full, meanwhile opera trying load 20% if look good weather through the windows.
It seems opera must born on anothe planet instead of Earth.
But I wish good luck for all programmers, and trying catch some head from nokia employes.
I write to Santa and wish working opera browser for christmas, thats 10 month, will see, or not.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.10.2005 Beta on Feb 18, 2011

Now this is more like it. This is actually an alpha release with a new engine and a proper changelog.

Memory consumption has finally moved in a positive direction and not only does it consume less, it doesn't appear to be leaking it either.

Many problematic sites are working again too. Rock solid so far

EDIT @Phat Esther, Your gibberish is an eye sore to say the least but I did make out you saying that HTML pages won't work. Well that's rubbish. I have a custom HTML as my homepage that mimics speed dial but with pages so I can group the links and it works flawlessly.

It's one thing to let your a** do the talking but don't you get your keyboard messy by letting it do the typing for you too?

PaulWilliams

PaulWilliams reviewed v11.01 on Feb 12, 2011

Opera 11 is the best and fastest Internet Browser on the planet. I used to use Firefox, but for the last couple of years its been getting slower and prone to errors and crashes. I tried Firefox 4 beta and I doubt I will even go back to Firefox again. My only complaints are (1) that it lacks live bookmarks, (2) you can't edit bookmarks from the bookmarks bar, (3) you can't organize your search engines in a particular order and (4) not enough useful add-ons.

P.S. Anyone that's recommending Internet Explorer over this is a complete moron.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.01 on Feb 1, 2011

Your browser not supported. Try download free FF or IE.
This is the most visited error in my last years in Opera.
But yes this is the fastest browser, if not crash.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.01 on Jan 30, 2011

I agree with Calc_Yolatuh in the fact that the extensions are nothing more than usersrcipt files with an icon. Which is why I could not understand all the crying for extensions. Opera was always able to run userscipts straight out of the box.

Anyways, this build is an improvement over yet another rushed final, 11.00. So that means more stability and better rendering. Everything seems to be working fine though it did hang(not close) on me once already. My biggest gripe remains and that is the direction it seems to be going with memory consumption, it's becoming a bit of a pig and tends to leak a little

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v11.01 on Jan 28, 2011

Loved it before, but now with the addition of extensions it really wins for me. Much sleeker and speedy than Firefox, though Firefox's extensions are still miles ahead.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v11.01 on Jan 28, 2011

so much faster than Firefox !!!

Calc_Yolatuh

Calc_Yolatuh reviewed v11.01 on Jan 27, 2011

Upgrade rolled smoothly, even more stable than 11.00 thus far. Still only 400 extensions out there, but the quality of the herd is quite high. Most are still identical to userscripts in function, but are easier to manage and support auto-updates. RSS is much better, and Mac users have the ability to create a USB-portable install.

Ctrl-click any image to save it, this defeats javascript click-interception.

Try the "Kick Ass!!" extension on one of Joe's articles...you'll love it.

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.01 on Jan 27, 2011

Opera sycophants are out in force ... continues to poorly render facebook, myspace, yahoo classic mail ... beaks most CAPTCHAs, shopping carts rarely work ... its Presto rendering engine is inferior to all major players but Opera GUI is pretty.

some guy

some guy reviewed v11.01 on Jan 27, 2011

version 11.01 is very fast and it allows me to do thing other browsers cant like the no right click scripts Opera can get by most image saves

] just wish it blocked more adds like adblock plus in firefox

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v11.01 on Jan 27, 2011

so much faster than Firefox (4.0 beta 10).

BelgianWaffle

BelgianWaffle reviewed v11.01 on Jan 27, 2011

Beautiful in every way...

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.01 on Jan 27, 2011

I've given this release this release a try.I used Opera for many years & it should make a good alternative to Chrome. Keep up the good work guys & gals in wintry Oslo.

All it needs is a decent ad blocker like AdBlock & it will be my default browser again despite how good Chrome 10 Dev is.

it's certainly faster than Chrome esp on a fast net connection.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.01 Build 1190 Beta on Jan 27, 2011

Not sure what they have done with this build but the cycle of broken and fixed seems to be in the fixed phase as both of the main banking sites I use are working and Yahoo mail seems to support Opera without using the classic version.

Whatever else you do Opera please remember these types of issues being resolved can only help Opera's compatibility problems and thus enhance its popularity.

Young Strider

Young Strider reviewed v11.01 Build 1175 Beta on Jan 23, 2011

@ everyone using WOT ar equal tools.

Please flag the spamsites posted here (like the ones by CyBeRPrenS ) on these services as spammers.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.01 Build 1175 Beta on Jan 21, 2011

Everything in my previews review applies here.

To add. My other bank which worked fine on the previous build will now not let me login using this build of Opera. I had to use IE to login and complete my transaction. It worked fine the day before.
It is things like that which simply stop me from using Opera as my main browser and have now moved over to FF's latest nightly.

I REALLY do love using Opera and would move back over with little hesitation but they must work really hard to get site compatibility issues fixed. It doesn't matter that they comply with xxx standards if in the real world websites are failing to render correctly.

PaulWilliams

PaulWilliams reviewed v11.00 on Jan 21, 2011

The fastest Internet browser on the planet. I love the speed and accuracy when loading web pages and I'm glad they finally added add-on integration. Maybe once a year or two passes they'll have as many add-ons as Firefox. Once that happens I'll probably ditch Firefox and use Opera as my primary browser. Firefox has been getting buggy in the last couple of years.

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v11.01 Build 1169 Beta on Jan 19, 2011

@Phat Esther no problem here working fine. better if you wait for next beta version then try again. ive had problems with some beta versions of opera that didnt appear in the next build. very fast for a beta build!

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.01 Build 1169 Beta on Jan 18, 2011

Opera (v11.01) 11.01 Build 1169 Beta could not connect to internet.
I dont recommend this release. :8{)
O11, FF, IE, Chrome, + all other smaller name Browser PERFECT working just a flash.
1169 beta, its joke? Or not?

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.01 Build 1164 Beta on Jan 12, 2011

I've been a big supporter of Opera and admit that it's not perfect but as others have mentioned, site compatibility is becoming a bigger issue again. The instances were becoming fewer and far between but some of my most used sites are issues now.

Like I said before, the memory management is taking a hit as a result of them adding more features, trying to be faster and not focusing on stability

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.01 Build 1164 Beta on Jan 12, 2011

I agree with Vimes, get the rendering issues etc out before adding anymore fancy bells & whistles. Could be the best browser or at least on a par with Chrome. but not yet.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.01 Build 1164 Beta on Jan 12, 2011

I am not sure why Opera seems to have a love hate relationship with Yahoo mail but from one build to the next it can be working or not. Regardless of how many times, with pictures, I post it in their forum or note it as a bug, and inform Yahoo, it is now not working with this build.
Mouse gestures seem to be much better.
Whilst Opera have been quite innovative with the tab stacking I would much prefer them to resolve website compatibility. Shopping on some websites is just impossible. My banking website will not display correctly as all the columns etc are messed up. Whilst these error are again always reported (masking or id as another browser does not help) they never change from build to build. Yet IE or FF or Chrome display those sites with NO issues at all.

For goodness sake Opera get your act together and make the basics work consistently and finally you might get some reasonable market share.

Also have a think about how your extensions are working etc and then we might get the "real" Ad block plus to work with Opera as the developer is waiting for Opera's help in this matter.

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v11.01 Build 1164 Beta on Jan 12, 2011

Was using latest stable version. I like this browser, I like what it tries to do, but I have never been able to get the mail client to work, so that sucks, um, it sometimes keeps running after shutdown so I have to go into processes and kill its process manually, and that sucks. I like the way it remembers its desktop location, nonetheless I just don't need three browsers.

some guy

some guy reviewed v11.01 Build 1164 Beta on Jan 11, 2011

Now has a type adbock extension !
https://addons.opera.com/addons/extensions/

mkeeley

mkeeley reviewed v11.01 Build 1164 Beta on Jan 11, 2011

Too many web site incompatibilities.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.01 Build 1160 Beta on Jan 10, 2011

Opera in the past 2 years went to hellokitty babystyle, dozens of unuseable functions and really looks like an recycle bin. A big recycle bin full of disappointment. What want Opera if only the 2 percent of users use it no more ever in the last 10 years. Why not concentrate only the prof things that we want, why not repaire any bugs and why make sports of false site rendering, half of pages not working, not just java php but tha basic html code too. why? Who knows the answer. If not reading Opera the own forum and other browser comparer blogs, why not ask own users what they want? I bet, not whistle keyholders.

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.01 Build 1160 Beta on Jan 10, 2011

I very much want to like this version but do not recommend it for non-geeks.
Its rendering engine continues to have many display issues with far too many
website including but not limited to yahoo classic mail, facebook, myspace, all
google cloud office tools, and many more ... shopping with this browser is nearly impossible as fee shopping carts work with Opera.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.01 Build 1160 Beta on Jan 10, 2011

I have used Opera for years & recently moved to Chrome as I like the simple setup etc. All Opera needs is AdBlock.

A friend of mine uses Opera & wild horses wouldn't change her. I must say IMHO Opera is on a par with Chrome, It's just a matter of personal preference.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v11.01 Build 1160 Beta on Jan 10, 2011

Opera is the best browser out there but it's memory management is moving in the wrong direction.

This bug fix release is welcomed since the final version of 11 should not have been released as a final

jfnabisco

jfnabisco reviewed v11.01 Build 1160 Beta on Jan 10, 2011

Keep it coming. Still the best browser out there.

thartist

thartist reviewed v11.01 Build 1160 Beta on Jan 10, 2011

Premium premium!

dotnetnightmare

dotnetnightmare reviewed v11.00 on Jan 2, 2011

I have to admit this is my current default browser. I am an extreme Ff 4.0b8 fanboy & have ranted and raved about how crappy Opera 10 is and will always be. This is indeed the finest, fastest browser with EXTENSIONS!! Opera 11 is the new standard in web browsing. I'm still in shock! Me, using Opera? What's the world coming to!

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.00 on Dec 27, 2010

Incredible thing happened.
The Earth time turn back to two and half years ago (back to the past) and the last working Multiple Link Save version 9.27.8841 released on 3 apr 2008 after now Opera 11 repaired this function that not worked from 9.50 alpha1 (released on 4 sept 2007).
3 years asking, craying, 1000 email to proggrammers, 1000 send bugreports. one million times very ugly words to opera, and now repaired. Why must happened this way these things? unUnderstable (or what)
In Opera 11 the MLS working again, I dont believed my eyes when I see the compera as usually.
And, they rethinking the save method and now not must clicking every link just select the download folder and all file save into that. This method very fast.
But not multiple, only simplified multiple. Multiple select and simple folder save.
Butbut working again something, not some but jumping to 9.27 if I want download 38 jpeg at same time.
That was the long time when I gve to opera 4 star but look the rating you will dont believe your eyes.
But dont forget, this MLS not the same as 9.27.8841, that is the really MLS, this just lookalike.

niefer

niefer reviewed v11.00 on Dec 22, 2010

Been using Opera since version 3.0. I love it. But little eternal problems are very annoying. Once Flash was not working, then Yahoo, now - GMail. Not to mention the banking and other similar sites normally working in IE. This situation continues from year to year. Now maybe I'll change my browser, after so many years with Opera.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v11.00 on Dec 17, 2010

This is the first Opera x.0 release that has been fully usable. A pleasant surprise.
Major plus points for me...
1. At last an installer that allows for a USB portable installation.
2. Extensions! How long has everybody been moaning to Opera about this?!
3. Even better standards support

Minus points for a borked mouse gesture implementation. What the hell happened? It worked fine in previous versions, suddenly this version it's all become unresponsive and slow using gestures. Real shame.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v11.00 on Dec 17, 2010

Opera 11 is rocking so far. Even on my slow WLAN connection, it's still fast and Opera Turbo isn't required. And Opera is still the leader with all it's new features, such as tab stacking, visual gestures, etc. Opera might not be popular in the US, but it's still my default browser of choice and always will be. I have IE8 sitting here on my computer, but I never use it because Opera is just so much better. Opera >>> Firefox, Safari, and Chrome IMO. Browser usage numbers doesn't mean anything. Those numbers are just a popularity contest. After all, at one time, IE was more popular than Netscape, but Netscape was the better browser. Opera may be the underdog on desktop browser usage, but in terms of speed, security, and functionality, Opera is light years ahead of the competition.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v11.00 on Dec 17, 2010

Opera 11 is an absolutely brilliant step in the evolution of what was already the best browser on the planet. "Plug-ins on demand" and "stackable tabs" are just two examples of this company's much-copied innovation. Nothing is as elegant, sophisticated, polished, and blazingly fast. And even though Opera doesn't enjoy the market share of its tirelessly self-promoting rivals, it's Number One in every way that counts. It' so phenomenal already that I personally don't believe it even NEEDS add-ons, but I hope this much-anticipated change will, at the very least, expose it to a wider audience.

I can only laugh at the brainwashed acolytes who endlessly sing the praises of the inferior Chrome and Firefox. That's like choosing to drive a beat-up Chevy when someone has offered to give you a brand-new Lexus for free. It's not to be understood or rationalized.

gezley

gezley reviewed v11.00 on Dec 17, 2010

Brilliant! What an excellent idea to have tab stacking. Finally I can manage all those tabs I leave open. Nothing comes close to this browser for speed, convenience, and sheer enjoyment. I am a happy user since the days you had to pay for Opera, and this release makes me even happier. Well done Opera.

mancub

mancub reviewed v11.00 on Dec 16, 2010

brillant

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.00 on Dec 16, 2010

This revision of Opera for me has been excellent. The rendering issues that I was having have all but gone. I think that was more related to upgrading the previous builds rather than a complete new install, which I did for this.

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v11.00 Build 1145 Beta on Dec 16, 2010

final build (1156) has same number as RC3. final build crashed on first run.. quickly changing the url page its going to seems to have solved this. didnt have any problems with RC3 (build 1156) though. now ive changed the home page, final build seems ok, that is no crashes!

shrekorfiona

shrekorfiona reviewed v11.00 Build 1145 Beta on Dec 15, 2010

RC3 is now available (build 1156)

http://snapshot.opera.co...Opera_1100_1156_int.exe

DACWILSOL

DACWILSOL reviewed v11.00 Build 1145 Beta on Dec 15, 2010

Each bug fix brings Opera closer to being my default browser. Pages render correctly that previously did not, without changing the settings. UI is similar to FF 4 beta. Once refined and polished and out of beta, Opera should be an effective browser to use.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.00 Build 1145 Beta on Dec 15, 2010

Final build of version 11 is now available

much better for me :)

dannyboy832

dannyboy832 reviewed v11.00 Build 1145 Beta on Dec 15, 2010

The reason why intelligent people (and me) have more than one browser installed is so they can get the best features out of each one duh! For example, I use Opera for general web browsing, IE9 for when Opera doesn't work, and Firefox for when neither work. Simple, and not painstaking either.

4.5 is my rating, but hell... it rounds off to 5

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v11.00 Build 1145 Beta on Dec 15, 2010

the opera team should remember that the web will not ever comply
look at chrome... it never has any problems with any web sites

thartist

thartist reviewed v11.00 Build 1145 Beta on Dec 14, 2010

"I really want to like this browser! Out of the box with no extensions..." -ahem, isn't Opera 11 the version you're reviewing?? (shakes head)
Meh, yeah it may not work fine for one in a million sites i may visit at random but who cares, i pop IE9 for that (wow, magic!). Opera as a whole program is a million times better than the rest to me and i'm happy with that. 5 stars again.

@Phat Ester: btw, charging against betas like they were finals? They shouldn't make this builds available to ignorant users and besides, i haven't had any of those problems so please stay away from computers. Maybe review soap operas.

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v11.00 Build 1145 Beta on Dec 14, 2010

I really want to like this browser! Out of the box with no extensions Opera's vision is idealistic. Unfortunatly, the Presto rendering engine is far inferior to Gecko or Webkit. I have the ability to beta test on 300 unique machines including Windows x86 and x64, 6 versions of Linux and MAC. I've tested Opera on 3,000 websites and easly draw the conclusion - Opera 11.xx does NOT render properly 20 percent of the time. This is unacceptable.

Yes, yes I have brought my search results to Opera Beta Team only to be banned from ever beta testing again. Too bad, Opera will continue to be relegated to a small sliver of the new browser wars.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.00 Build 1140 Beta on Dec 14, 2010

If what has been written is correct, that Opera will not resolve rendering issues with sites that do not comply with certain standards then I guess that might explain why so few people use the browser compared to any other on the market, and have done for as long as Opera has been used.
http://www.netmarketshar...rket-share.aspx?qprid=1
However as they do have the ability to report a site, which I do each and every time, I have some hope that they will try and improve things.
I also report a sites problem to the site itself, if possible.

Still have rendering issues with certain sites, found a new site today with this build whilst looking for a place to live for my daughter...

www.rightmove.co.uk

....look at any property and look at the photos. For me the scroll bars to navigate each photo is right in the middle of each photo. With FF or IE it is at the bottom where it should be.

My issues go from something as "minor" as the above to my banking website not displaying the columns correctly when logged in. The banks response is "Use IE". And Opera's response over the years of reporting is " ____________ "

birkis

birkis reviewed v11.00 Build 1140 Beta on Dec 13, 2010

@ sn0wy82: Opera Software ASA has decided that their browser should comply with the web standards only. So in other words, when a web page does not render correctly, the problem is with the web page that is not written according to standards and not with Opera. Opera will not render these web pages more correctly in the next version unless the web page is written more correctly... Maybe you should complain to the web site instead?

@ Phat Esther: Oh, my dear... You are really struggling with this software, aren't you? I am extremely happy that I have never experienced the problems you are having - with any version... While you are waiting for version 12, perhaps this will help you: http://www.topsoftzone.c...pera_International.html ?

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.00 Build 1136 Beta on Dec 11, 2010

guru_v
1136 vs 1140 only means 4 more bugs
I waiting for 12 and hope the opera go back payware and make again professional brower like 9.27.8841
Opera (v11) 11.00 Build 1136 Beta is only hello kitty browser
quarter star

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v11.00 Build 1136 Beta on Dec 10, 2010

Opera gets better with each iteration, and continues to polish the interface that works best for many, including me.

BTW, Betanews is a step behind on this one, as beta revision 1140 has been available since very early this AM

dannyboy832

dannyboy832 reviewed v11.00 Build 1133 Beta on Dec 10, 2010

Yeah, opera really needs something like adblock plus.

Also, it takes ages to start compared to IE9 or firefox 4.0b7 when running on my win7 install...

Still, I haven't tried the latest beta, and in some cases it does seem to be the case that it loads pages faster than firefox or IE9.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.00 Build 1133 Beta on Dec 10, 2010

Must delete predefined speeddial.ini if you dont want start crash.
incredible
I dont find words.
7MB of bug.
after restart opera on download tab show randomize old downloads instead of the latest, the latest not shown at all, this bug not repaired since 10 years
if its not opera i laughing very big but now just wondered
half star

sn0wy82

sn0wy82 reviewed v11.00 Build 1133 Beta on Dec 9, 2010

I appreciate this is a work in progress but I'm having the same problems with Opera as always- it doesn't seem to render alot of sites I regularly use correctly! Get it fixed and maybe I'll start using it again!!!

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.00 Build 1133 Beta on Dec 9, 2010

I really do want to like this browser more but alas I find the old rendering issues with certain websites that have constantly irritated me for a long time. Each time these are reported to the website and Opera but they never seem to change.
Whilst I can applaud some of the newer features that Opera have adopted I wish that they would fix some of the long standing ones
If other browsers can render them correctly so should Opera.

ninjeratu

ninjeratu reviewed v11.00 Build 1128 Beta on Dec 7, 2010

Getting there. Quite fast and a good looker.
If they can actually get a properly working adblock extension, I will consider using this. Right now the FF extensions are both more mature, more plentiful and .. well .. actually working.
Tweaking Opera is a confusing and, sometimes, overwhelming experience with pages and popups with options that you have no idea what they're doing. I'm sure it's great for people who spend 15-20 hours reading the manual and consulting the forums.
The donside is that they're trying too hard. Opera's supposed to be "fastest", and now "most versatile" and "cram most features into one browser than any other browser". Yeah, well, Netscape tried and failed.
Opera should remove most useless features and add them as extensions, THEN the fat lady will sing.

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v11.00 Build 1128 Beta on Dec 7, 2010

@Phat Esther
Think you have a bad computer.

SuzzyWoozy

SuzzyWoozy reviewed v11.00 Build 1128 Beta on Dec 7, 2010

Introduccing tab groups!!! Nice.

Through time, Opera introduced a lot of features that eventually got copied/implemented by other browsers.

I dont' have a inssue with this release.
(Win 7, 64bit, Home Premium).

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.00 Build 1128 Beta on Dec 6, 2010

install
start
crash
restart
crash
restart
crash
uninstall
check for default browser not working since at least two years ago
little little one star
yes opera modified the description
opera is the one of the fastest web browser on earth
whats happened?
one of the?
not, the IS ?

on my computer running Opera 10.6, FF latestbeta, Chrome latest beta, IE latest beta without crash, if o11lb crash not my computer is bad.
I nt today started using PC 15 y ago

Calc_Yolatuh

Calc_Yolatuh reviewed v11.00 Build 1111 Beta on Dec 3, 2010

Build 1111, XP-SP3, Atom N280, 2GB

Beta-1 looks great! The fresh batch of UI work is well-conceived, though tab-stacking is not 100% stable yet. Extension catalogue approaching 200 items, several are even useful but I probably won't keep them.

Speed Dial doesn't look as good on my netbook right now, Mail Panel still WIP. No actual crashes (well, a couple from managing stacked tabs) and I haven't been having trouble with any sites I've tried. Mouse behavior improvements OK, Voice addon is working and Neptune bug fixed. Trees in "O" menu are occasionally slow to expand....probably a timing bug.

4/5 for now, the final will probably get my 5.

soldier1st

soldier1st reviewed v10.63 on Nov 27, 2010

Opera is getting worse as it's memory usage does not lower and only climbs higher and higher till it crashes your os and opera causes100% cpu usage on many sites and no way to fix it short of using another browser. I hope Opera 11 will improve on this but until then I do not recommend Opera but something else and i was a long time Opera user but kept having these problems.

jb64

jb64 reviewed v11.00 Build 1111 Beta on Nov 26, 2010

Okay, so:I installed from scratch and:

- imported bookmarks (pass)
- previously open tabs (manual copy)
- re-imported mail (back to 700 meg from 2 gig and looks complete - excellent)
- manually reinstalled the extensions I previously installed (no biggie)
- tried to re import my rss feeds - it imported the existing rss feed information (pass), but did not keep my subscriptions to any feeds and made all of the feeds one big blob of feeds (fail x 2)
- re-imported contacts (pass)
- passwords/wand wizard (manual copy, no ability to import)
- manually had to copy my cookies (hmm)
- lost speed dial favourites (didn't figure out which setting to copy - fail on my part I guess)

Pros of this version:

- No longer crashes on auto-saved tabs on start-up (after having to re-import everything, otherwise it still crashes for no reason)
- Love the stacked tabs concept within the browser environment, this is excellent. Never cared about it in Windows 7 though :-)
- Smaller install footprint
- Pretty stable (ie. no crashes for me)

Cons of this version:

- Much larger memory usage now for the same open tabs. Previously this used about 900 meg to 1.2 gig, now it is using 1.5 gig to 2.2 gig. That is nowhere near good enough. I might have tons of memory, but the smaller install footprint promotion makes this a very bad joke.
- For stacked tabs, you have to be really quick or a stacked tab will close without a result. That sucks and needs refinement. It is still promising for a first attempt though.
- I should never have had to reinstall.

Yet to explore:

- the friendlier mouse gestures system. Looks good in theory.

I reinstalled to rid myself of any stupid configuration hangovers which seem to plague me with problems because the versions do not upgrade properly (I had a single user mode install harking way back to 3.5). I don't recommend doing this though because there are too many files to f**k around with manually.

Overall, I'd say a 3.5. It's the typical - "we've improved it without properly testing that it works as advertised" release. Stack tabs are great for those that can't imagine their browsing lives without it, For the rest, you probably don't care.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.00 Build 1111 Beta on Nov 25, 2010

1 Install
2 not working
3 uninstall
live 1 minute
thats all
Chechk FF4b8 speeddial groups and you wondered how lightyears back this woodpecker tabstacking functions ha ha ha

Halgart

Halgart reviewed v11.00 Build 1111 Beta on Nov 24, 2010

The tab stacking feature is awesome! Opera is by far the best browser available. :)

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v11.00 Build 1111 Beta on Nov 23, 2010

tab stacking is just fantastic

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v11.00 Build 1111 Beta on Nov 23, 2010

I guess Opera is setting an example for other browsers to match, even my bank works better with Opera than IE,
I am impressed so innovative, the new ideas rocks ,,

Finally Opera can read for me the page,, that is nice,,

I have noticed big CPU usage improvement,
I do not know what is the complain about Yahoo and Gmail, both work fine for me. win 7 and linux

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11.00 Build 1111 Beta on Nov 23, 2010

whilst it is nice to have new features like stacking tabs etc it would be also nice if things that had previously worked continued to do so. Now I have major issues with my Gmail account. I have only just got my back and forward mouse buttons working again. For some reason mouse gestures are not working as they should.

The usual sites for me are still not working, not sure if it is worth the myriad of reminders to Opera to see what they can do (my bank and other sites have been informed) as they have been like that for some considerable time.

As always I like the idea of Opera but can in no way accept it as my main browser as too many BASIC functions of it simply work or don't work or behave erratically from one build to another. I understand it is in beta phase but these yo-yo "working and not working" aspects of Opera have plagued it for a long long time.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v11.00 Build 1111 Beta on Nov 23, 2010

Opera was and is the most Pioneer browser of all. 80% new ideas implemented in other browser come from Opera

thartist

thartist reviewed v11.00 Build 1111 Beta on Nov 22, 2010

Surprisingly this build is here before Opera Desktop Team blog http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
If you're gonna try Opera's Alphas be sure to know what you're up to, read the blog.

@Phat Ester: Known problem since the previous build.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.00 Build 1094 Beta on Nov 20, 2010

After many months yahoo mailbox not working programmers repaired
but now the gmail not working. INCREDIBLE
little one star

mersdad

mersdad reviewed v11.00 Build 1094 Beta on Nov 19, 2010

Right mouse click works fine...

I had the same problem, until...

Under Preferences....Advanced....Shortcuts....make sure Enable Mouse Gestures is checked.

Every release is of this browser gets better and better... wow!

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v11.00 Build 1094 Beta on Nov 19, 2010

Gmail now is working but as jfnabisco said, right mouse click is not working, pls fix this asap

shallot

shallot reviewed v11.00 Build 1094 Beta on Nov 18, 2010

The best out there....

@jfnabisco, they have enabled visual mouse gustures ...hold down the right button...

jfnabisco

jfnabisco reviewed v11.00 Build 1094 Beta on Nov 18, 2010

Thanks guys for the advice. Now working fine. I installed it on my AMD laptop and it worked fine, but I had this problem on my Intel I5 desktop. All is well now.
Still the best browser out there.

AlphaRoman

AlphaRoman reviewed v11.00 Build 1085 Beta on Nov 17, 2010

Some problem here. Switch over to Opera a couple of month agoo. Now back to Chrome. Hope Opera solves this problem.

maddy143ded

maddy143ded reviewed v11.00 Build 1085 Beta on Nov 17, 2010

Opera has been the best browser since it has been free...
even now the fastest browser tested by the peacekeeper tests is Opera.
even on my basic Destktop Config its faster then all the other browsers...

only thing I hate is that at present I seem unable to use opera to check my Gmail account...
either the Opera 11 has some fault( i have tried the windows and the linux versions ) or Gmail coders have changed somew code to disable the advanced features of Gmail for opera. it is certainly possible if any of you others are having the same problem..

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.00 Build 1085 Beta on Nov 16, 2010

No major issues, a few pages don't render properly, getting faster. A nice browser if you dislike Chrome.

Chrome is my default but I like Opera & have used it since the pay for it days, we only wore clogs then & all 15 children shared one pair of trousers. (Thats 'Pants') to our friends over the pond.

Extensions - great. Could do with a better ad blocker.

jb64

jb64 reviewed v11.00 Build 1060 Beta on Nov 12, 2010

Not quite there yet as far as I am concerned. It crashes for me every time on the previously autosaved position, but will happily load the same thing from a session for no logical reason (third beta same result). Save that and reload and it will just crash again. A couple of pages do load better, but most pages show no improvement at all.

The extensions are a welcome addition, like the translate (yeah!!), but uh, how about auto-translate like chrome? That said, the translate does a much better job - all parts of a page (not necessarily a superior translation) - than chrome does, but it seems to take a lot longer to do so. I think it shows a lot of promise though.

Sometime back in one of the 10.6 releases my mail/news got screwed up because I tried to implement a large binary newsgroup feed (and no, not pr0n). I gave up on Opera as being viable for a binary newsgroup feed, but one day I'd like to see that mess untangled so I can free up a couple of gig it consumed and refuses to release.

The other good news - the back button works again (finally 7 releases later!).

Speed of loading, pretty good. It's going places, but not all of them good. Check it again in a few more betas.

HornyToad

HornyToad reviewed v11.00 Build 1060 Beta on Nov 12, 2010

This is the one for me. It's the best browser I've used, and once you set it up just so (edit or replace the urlfilter.ini file to block ads, replace the css default settings by another one that collapses ad frames, enable "real" tab browsing to open your favorites in a new tab, etc...), you get the browsing experience of your life! This new version of Opera really flies, as another user said, it's also stable for a preview, and its rendering is flawless on all the sites I visit on a daily basis. You can now add extensions to it, though the list isn't on par with Firefox's extensions catalog, of course...

Give it a try, you won't be disappointed!

niknetpc

niknetpc reviewed v11.00 Build 1060 Beta on Nov 12, 2010

Slower than other browsers and buggy.@ovd on bottom ****ing idiot and mudak,just try latest Firefox beta or Chrome or RockMelt ,and can see the difference..

YoungOldies

YoungOldies reviewed v11.00 Build 1060 Beta on Nov 11, 2010

This browser really flies ! Compared to that crap Firefox, this is a rocket !

elfsun

elfsun reviewed v10.63 on Nov 10, 2010

The same story continues,eventhis version also not compatible with many sites as mentioned in my earlier commentit is not compatible many Web sites. I am able to open all with Firefox,Chrome as well as Avant. Not able to open with the latest version also. What is the use, though it is fast.Switch to Avant finally.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v11.00 Build 1055 Beta on Nov 10, 2010

Incredible things happened. After many many beta test my yahoo mailbox working again. All other mu listed test failed and bugly. BUT the programmers repaired if anybody want acces to your contact list all previous version crashed immediatelly and you dont able handle the conlist and after login just crash. AND now working again and must decline all wishes dosens of the past access.
Workib again my yahoooo mailbox not must use Chrome. Nice im very happy.
i give 2 stars instead of one. Congratulation opera and thank you

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v11.00 Build 1055 Beta on Nov 9, 2010

Rocket booster, only one thing, Opera can't print webages when you selected text to print. It's quite big minus.

jakartatech

jakartatech reviewed v11.00 Build 1045 Alpha on Nov 5, 2010

Now I get excited as for the first time since years Opera starts to render pages as how it should be! Example the page of (http://www2.lionair.co.id) Lion Air which with previous versions wasn't able to make a booking or to see a schedule... Huray it works in opera 11 ! Will do some more runs on sites from which I knew Opera couldn't handle....

elfsun

elfsun reviewed v10.70 Build 9071 Beta on Nov 5, 2010

Opera has been around for years,. It has a nice GUI, but functionally, it's not worth the download.I download Avant which has all the features I want.

genivf

genivf reviewed v11.00 Build 1045 Alpha on Nov 3, 2010

Running great so far. Extremely solid for an alpha build. All the stuff I know and love from Opera, with a few nice small changes, like to the menu placements, and few important large changes, the obvious one being the addition of extensions. Once people start porting extensions from FF and Chrome to Opera, it might get a larger share of the browser market.

baki_princ

baki_princ reviewed v11.00 Build 1045 Alpha on Nov 2, 2010

lol i think this is is finally

chinobis

chinobis reviewed v11.00 Build 1045 Alpha on Nov 2, 2010

This alpha has matured very quickly. For me, it is very stable so far.

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v11.00 Build 1045 Alpha on Nov 2, 2010

i can tweak ff to the way i like it, but opera is perfect/super fast right out of the box. chrome is fast, but i can't tweak the ui like i can opera. the best browser just keeps getting better.

BelgianWaffle

BelgianWaffle reviewed v11 Build 1029 Alpha on Oct 27, 2010

Awesome!!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v11 Build 1029 Alpha on Oct 27, 2010

Still buggy, but for a first Alpha release, its not bad. Super fast, and lightweight. Love it already!

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v11 Build 1029 Alpha on Oct 26, 2010

Very slow, buggy, aplha preview, freeze and cash, must reinstall Windows7 virgin, dont download if your life sweet.

progh

progh reviewed v11 Build 1029 Alpha on Oct 25, 2010

@niknetpc

Are YOU ****ing kidding?

Opera is a LOT much faster than chrome, ff and ie.

8189720

8189720 reviewed v11 Build 1029 Alpha on Oct 22, 2010

sssflin is a douchebag. Don't click his s***ty links and ban his ass. Spammer.

This is otherwise a great browser so far, especially for a beta. Now, let's see if it works with LastPass.

war593122

war593122 reviewed v11 Build 1029 Alpha on Oct 22, 2010

Whoooo Opea finally gets extensions!!

niknetpc

niknetpc reviewed v11 Build 1029 Alpha on Oct 22, 2010

So far,slower than Firefox,Chrome and IE(!)

dotnetnightmare

dotnetnightmare reviewed v11 Build 1029 Alpha on Oct 21, 2010

Blown away by how good this one is! I hate Opera! Good job! Scrools smooth, all my flash porn sites render fast, hotmail & gmail load properly when called by trillian, loads in a second. Initial display of a website can take several seconds due to it initially caching the site, after that it's a split second! Waiting to try extensions till they get something I want or at least till a few more builds.Excellent! I found nothing wrong!

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v11 Build 1029 Alpha on Oct 21, 2010

For an alpha, I am extremely impressed. I can't really give it a "5" because it doesn't have all the features yet. I've been using Chrome exclusively for months, but whoa, Opera 11 is noticeable faster. Well done! Looking forward to future builds, and I might consider a browser change!

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v11 Build 1029 Alpha on Oct 21, 2010

Started off promising but the usual problems about certain websites are still causing issues for me.

Since version 10.63 the back and forward buttons of my mouse do not work.

Both issues have been reported. The mouse one is documented many times in Operas forum but has still not been resolved.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.70 Build 9071 Beta on Oct 17, 2010

Breaking NEWS !!!

No more 10.7x beta, we live over this period.
Eveybody here?
We hope Opera 11 start new structure of this web browser history.
First programmers tryig repaire bugs and not implement new hills.
I wish good works for them.
New opera clean card
we hope

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.70 Build 9071 Beta on Oct 15, 2010

Opera 10.70, Build 9071 now works on WinVista SP2 along with WinMail so I must give credit where credit is due. It is fast & seems to work well when set up appropriately. Hopefully the application will continue to improve in the future & be able to repair the much less than good image & reputation it's had for a long time now. Congrats to Opera Browser - Keep up the good work!!!!!

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v10.70 Build 9067 Beta on Oct 14, 2010

Oh look, we made a garbage browser that loads some pages extremely fast. Whats up with the ugly red rectangle at the top left corner...my eye is drawn to it immediately and it's annoying. Get it together, this is ugly.

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v10.63 on Oct 14, 2010

Opera 11 to support extensions

http://www.neowin.net/ne...1-to-support-extensions

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v10.70 Build 9067 Beta on Oct 14, 2010

Opera 11 to support extensions

http://www.neowin.net/ne...1-to-support-extensions

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.70 Build 9067 Beta on Oct 14, 2010

Qlib
this is an early version of 10.70 and has just hit beta1.. so if you want stable then use 10.63 thats now out..

But other users wrote how stable, not crash, not freeze just troll who not give 5 star
Whats wrong whit you? You dot know what means beta test?
The programmer how repaire problems if everybody say how fast, stable not crash nor problem. How?
If you want review 10.6x then go there, not here trolered other testers.
If anything not working, that not working, if crash that crash, understand?
Nah good, go to tvu.org.ru click on any letter and trying scroll down, hahaha and start stopper how fast opera render, and now try this on latest FF4beta CR8beta or IE9beta

so its your problem who know what is testin nad compare with other browsers
you are not testers just simple users yu never use Chrome or Safari maximum Firefox and you totally flying out from Opera speed.
But how speed? The many false render or crash?
Why not repaire functions that not working after 9.5beta?
This must be testers sendback to programmers not the 5stars 5stars.
2 percent of user use opera and not growing in the last 10 years at all.
What means this?
Some problem there is. Something not good happen.
The fastest and best and most professional browser just nobody dont want use it AND the old users also can go to FF or CR.
The problem list bigger than some A4 sheet
Why could make Firefox checkpipe in settings for autoscroll on or off before 4 years ago? And opera the most innovative browsers why not?
opera programmers not repaired any bugs just making new hills

Qlib

Qlib reviewed v10.70 Build 9067 Beta on Oct 13, 2010

first off Phat Esther, this is an early version of 10.70 and has just hit beta1.. so if you want stable then use 10.63 thats now out..

secondly, if you've had problems with google images or yahoo or your bankaccount, I suggest you look at your system overall since google images and yahoo mail has worked flawlessly for myself and everyone I know of that use opera since 10.50 and before.. your bank however I cant comment on....

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.70 Build 9053 Beta on Sep 27, 2010

Which build number will the next after 9053?
The 9054?
Or the 9055?
Perhaps the 9056?
I dont wait to know it.
Must go and ask Paul the Octopus.
Who interesting the bugs and crash soap story anymore?
Nobody.
The version number more important than the users want use better software.
Week after week opera left many users from irrigate false render, not able basic html standards render properly like IE FF CR or other browsers.
Googe images crash, Yahoo mailbox crash, bank account not working,all old useable functions deleted, not working new functions that sports of opera.
9.50 beta to 10.7x is the blackhole in opera history.
Who will light candle?

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v10.70 Build 9050 Beta on Sep 24, 2010

Getting faster , no problems with stability either. Opera now my default browser as it seems to be a nose ahead of the excellent 'Chrome'.

'Phat Esther', are you for real, I would recommend you visit a good Psychologist, help is out there.

5 Stars for Opera.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.70 Build 9050 Beta on Sep 23, 2010

BREAKING NEWS !!!

Serious, betanews dicontinued measure Opera browser on the test ranking graphicon

HA HA HA HA HA
unbelievable
good day for me and all betatesters
the 5 stars notbuggy notcrasshy browser no more
Bnews is troll perhaps trolls
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaahhahahaahhahahaha

all application create rules to windows firewall except opeta

haha i lerning eanglish for more t 40 years
this is the maximum
if i not concentrating on it
the result will be much lower quality
but u see the programs like opera
file - open - save - edit - tools - help
only words that i use that the betatesters use
and im an alpha tester
of corse i dont understand 95% of your messages too
try speak only words lik me and i understand you perfect

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v10.70 Build 9050 Beta on Sep 23, 2010

build 9050 gave me an error during install (error 1722) so went back to build 9049

uestudae

uestudae reviewed v10.70 Build 9050 Beta on Sep 22, 2010

Fast, good interface, many features which are easy to use. It have much more than any other web browser, i mean others have too cool features but they do not work for me:). I recommend it to all, who have internet connection.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.70 Build 9050 Beta on Sep 22, 2010

Very beautiful UI - Many integrated and outstanding features: Opera Unite, Widget, online services, mail, feed, security, themes, shortcuts... - Updated frequently - The best: Opera Unite - Fast rendering of pages

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.70 Build 9050 Beta on Sep 22, 2010

A fast Web browser with powerful features and a new, beautiful minimalistic design.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.70 Build 9050 Beta on Sep 22, 2010

@Phat Esther: I don't understand any word taht you say troll. Learn english.

Anyways, 5 stars ;)

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.70 Build 9049 Beta on Sep 19, 2010

LOLtotally empty frames eg. on bing images totally crash on my yahoo mailbox search bug bug bug crash crash crash and crash too no bugrepaire since 9.50 beta just more new bughills buglands and bugmines not able render webpages hey look what fine render IE9 thinking why IE9 not other thinkin opera proggers what you doing lol copypaste mouseclick totally false working endless problems endless flutecamp is the neverending story sorry Opera is the only one program that freeze cablemodem after 4-5 site opened shame shame firefox chrome ie working days and months without break internet connection but if you use flutecamp must put your one hand to reset button nice slogen The fastest browser on Earth is even faster. yes that is, even faster crash ah yes almost forgotten the built in spyware report continously communicating with opera date collector sites, must block in host adblock not enough yes yes yes opera is the fastest and the best yes we know it yes no bug no crash yes yes 5 stars 5 stars

CapZap

CapZap reviewed v10.70 Build 9049 Beta on Sep 19, 2010

OK, they've worn me down. I give up on the forward and back buttons and will use the right and left mouse click combos instead. But, I'm going kicking and screaming, just like I did when they made me start using a mouse back in the '80's somewhere. I've been here before when they changed the zoom keys -- I can't even remember now what they used to be. I was about to buy the fancy new Cyborg R.A.T. mouse so I could adjust the position of the forward and back buttons and now it's all irrelevant. Oh well, life moves on whether we want it to or not. Opera itself is the best. Always has been.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v10.70 Build 9049 Beta on Sep 18, 2010

The only gripes I have with 'Opera' is with lack of extensions / decent ad blocker. Although 'Chrome' is my default browser 'Opera' is faster. If only I could use extensions this would be without doubt my default browser. I even bought it many moons ago.

No problems with crashes since I installed it, I often wonder what you people do to get progs to crash consistently. Maybe it's not the browser (hint). Put Opera as my default browser for a while.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.70 Build 9049 Beta on Sep 18, 2010

might as well copy and paste my previous review as the same problems still apply...

Still too many issues with the rendering of certain websites (banking and other booking ones) which I need to use. As always these are reported and, as always, other browsers work great.
Even though I have affection for Opera it is the only browser which causes problems for me.
I do enjoy using Chrome, and its extensions are growing in number all the time, but I still keep going back to FF as the addon-ons which I like to use are not available for Chrome.

cmotdibbler

cmotdibbler reviewed v10.70 Build 9049 Beta on Sep 17, 2010

This seems really fast, even compared to the nightly chromium builds. I do miss extensions but userstyles.org has quite a few stylesheets that work in opera.
Mouse gestures not working for me (and haven't since 10.6).

CapZap

CapZap reviewed v10.70 Build 9047 Beta on Sep 15, 2010

Once again, forward and back mouse buttons (Logitech) don't work in this version. IE 9 was worse -- scroll button didn't work.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.70 Build 9047 Beta on Sep 15, 2010

The new Bookmark toolbar is excelent. As always don't listen the troll down here.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.70 Build 9047 Beta on Sep 15, 2010

Even now Opera is the fastest browser. FF is a slowpoke in compare.

http://www.ghacks.net/wp...10/09/sunspider-all.png

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.70 Build 9046 Beta on Sep 15, 2010

Flutecamp is the best woodpecker of the winchesters!

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.70 Build 9046 Beta on Sep 15, 2010

Still too many issues with the rendering of certain websites (banking and other booking ones) which I need to use. As always these are reported and, as always, other browsers work great.
Even though I have affection for Opera it is the only browser which causes problems for me.
I do enjoy using Chrome, and its extensions are growing in number all the time, but I still keep going back to FF as the addon-ons which I like to use are not available for Chrome.

jakartatech

jakartatech reviewed v10.70 Build 9046 Beta on Sep 14, 2010

And still nothing is done regarding rendering online banking pages, on line airline booking sites etc. Try to get a flight schedule on www2.lionair.co.id it's just not working...

netean

netean reviewed v10.70 Build 9046 Beta on Sep 14, 2010

Opera seems to be a love or hate application.
I LOVE the 10.5+ version, and 10.70 gets better and better every release.
I've been running the bleeding edge beta builds for ages and they're generally rock solid and stable. People seem to complain a lot about page rendering, but I haven't come across any problems in... well... I can't remember!

Has all the great features of Firefox and Chrome extensions/plugins but out of the box. Undo close tabs (trashcan in Opera), mouse gestures, auto update, adblock [Ramp4me - what are you talking about , adblock has been integrated in Opera main UI for ages - right click on a page, select "block Content" Click "Done" when done.. EASY!]

Sceptical as I have been about Opera Unite, I have actually used it to share content with someone abroad - it works and works really well actually - although not something I use often.

Still wish it had a plugin architecture that would allow such great extensions as Scribefire (blogging). But otherwise.. it pretty much comes feature complete out of the box.

Baffled why people diss it so much, everyone has a favourite browser but honestly there's not a lot to fault Opera with

I personally swap between Opera and Chrome, using them about 50-50% on both windows and linux.

I really like Opera, A LOT and it gets better and better with every release

Ramp4me

Ramp4me reviewed v10.70 Build 9046 Beta on Sep 14, 2010

"Opera does it all !"....

Yeah, even trying to block some ads forces you into editing some hiddien .ini files with some external editor.

The browser still is the most crappy looking, crappy behaving, and useless browser overall, still....

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.70 Build 9036 Beta on Sep 12, 2010

The Opera browser is truly the all around best browser. Extremely fast, very stable and portable with multi-platform ports for Linux, Windows, OS/X, mobile devices, phones, and even the playstation. Opera is efficient in terms of memory usage and hard drive foot print. The browser is the most feature rich browser out of the box and it's security and ability to be customized is unsurpassed. I have used most of them and Opera stands on its own as the best!! You need to try it and use it for a bit in order to get used to its features, in time you will not be able to go back to IE, Firefox or Safari.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.70 Build 9036 Beta on Sep 12, 2010

Opera has provided all users should install as extensions in other browsers. Nothing to be installed after Opera. Users can just install it then surf, and Opera has many features but still works so fast.

uestudae

uestudae reviewed v10.70 Build 9036 Beta on Sep 12, 2010

IE and Firefox but neither can compete on speed with Opera. Plus there are no plugins to download and install when you want it to do a particular thing, Opera does it all. A format and reinstall doesn't leave you searching for all those plugins you had installed before. I carry Opera portable with me at all times because I just cannot go back to IE on other people's computers. Try it, give it a chance - like many new programs on your computer you will need to take a bit of time to tweak it how you want it. It's worth it.

ciohaeso

ciohaeso reviewed v10.70 Build 9036 Beta on Sep 12, 2010

Opera takes a little time to get used to but the effort is worth while. I occasionally also use Firefox, and if unavoidable use IE; Opera is so much faster than either of these. To try it is to love it!

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.70 Build 9036 Beta on Sep 12, 2010

Good as always, don't listen the trolls.

dotnetnightmare

dotnetnightmare reviewed v10.70 Build 9036 Beta on Sep 10, 2010

Opera does not work on websites with any kind of html error. All other browsers will work as they allow for errors and still render the page. Opera has refused to follow in this kind of standard rendering of websites allowing only for perfect code. Opera is written and developed by "Skynet" and is intended for generation 3 cyborgs. Humans write html coding for websites. Humans make mistakes and errors. I suggest using a browser for humans. Opera has alot of excuses and they blame everyone else for their flaws. Online banking? Not in Opera! If you want a browser that is fast-ish and can only be used on certain websites, then Opera is your girl. Me, I can wait that extra 100th of a second for Chrome or Internet Explorer to render all websites flawlessly. Fast is only the difference of 1 second! Nobody is copying the look of Opera, truth is their all copying Safari. Safari's interface, Safari's speed, Safari's reader. Take a look at Safari's menu buttons then look at Chrome's, who's copying who? Opera wants you to believe that their some great innovation in the web browser frontier. That their so inventive, all other developers have to copy them. If you tell the truth Opera is copying other browsers and passing it off as their own work.

ciohaeso

ciohaeso reviewed v10.62 Build 3500 on Sep 10, 2010

Opera takes a little time to get used to but the effort is worth while. I occasionally also use Firefox, and if unavoidable use IE; Opera is so much faster than either of these. To try it is to love it!

uestudae

uestudae reviewed v10.62 Build 3500 on Sep 10, 2010

I have been using Opera almost since I first ever had internet access. I've also used IE and Firefox but neither can compete on speed with Opera. Plus there are no plugins to download and install when you want it to do a particular thing, Opera does it all. A format and reinstall doesn't leave you searching for all those plugins you had installed before. I carry Opera portable with me at all times because I just cannot go back to IE on other people's computers. Try it, give it a chance - like many new programs on your computer you will need to take a bit of time to tweak it how you want it. It's worth it.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.62 Build 3500 on Sep 10, 2010

Opera has provided all users should install as extensions in other browsers. Nothing to be installed after Opera. Users can just install it then surf, and Opera has many features but still works so fast.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.62 Build 3500 on Sep 10, 2010

The Opera browser is truly the all around best browser. Extremely fast, very stable and portable with multi-platform ports for Linux, Windows, OS/X, mobile devices, phones, and even the playstation. Opera is efficient in terms of memory usage and hard drive foot print. The browser is the most feature rich browser out of the box and it's security and ability to be customized is unsurpassed. I have used most of them and Opera stands on its own as the best!! You need to try it and use it for a bit in order to get used to its features, in time you will not be able to go back to IE, Firefox or Safari.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.62 Build 3500 on Sep 10, 2010

@dotnetnightmare: Hi,how are you. Troll as always I see. You really have free time, but I really recommend that you need get a girlfriend or a cat. Really, is good for your health don't be a troll all the time.

dotnetnightmare

dotnetnightmare reviewed v10.62 Build 3500 on Sep 9, 2010

Opera does not work on websites with any kind of html error. All other browsers will work as they allow for errors and still render the page. Opera has refused to follow in this kind of standard rendering of websites allowing only for perfect code. Opera is written and developed by "Skynet" and is intended for generation 3 cyborgs. Humans write html coding for websites. Humans make mistakes and errors. I suggest using a browser for humans. Opera has alot of excuses and they blame everyone else for their flaws. Online banking? Not in Opera! If you want a browser that is fast-ish and can only be used on certain websites, then Opera is your girl. Me, I can wait that extra 100th of a second for Chrome or Internet Explorer to render all websites flawlessly. Fast is only the difference of 1 second! Nobody is copying the look of Opera, truth is their all copying Safari. Safari's interface, Safari's speed, Safari's reader. Take a look at Safari's menu buttons then look at Chrome's, who's copying who? Opera wants you to believe that their some great innovation in the web browser frontier. That their so inventive, all other developers have to copy them. If you tell the truth Opera is copying other browsers and passing it off as their own work.

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v10.62 Build 3500 on Sep 9, 2010

Here is an opera problem which has existed for quite some time, several years. Opera in fact loads TOO fast and often does not display the page completely. This often requires MULTIPLE refreshes before the page is displayed in full with all content. This dates back to at least v7.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.62 Build 3500 on Sep 9, 2010

Still not as satisfied as I have been before with Opera.

And just ignore foolish rants like dotnightmare's much in the same way you would PhatEsther. Opera is pre-bundled with a lot of the functionality that other browsers achieve only through plugins that mimic Opera's innovations with the only difference being that that functionality isn't broken with each new release.

EDIT
@dotnightmare
Actually pre-bundled functionality is a blanket statement for MANY thing such as built in ad blocker, speed dial, paste and go, etc.. . The list goes on and on of things that, as I said are only achieved by plugins with other browsers seeking to imitate Opera's innovations and that now includes it's interface too.

Most people don't even realize all that Opera can do because it isn't spelled out for them as it is with add ons. Opera can also mask itself as another browser to deal with website sniffing which in turn underplays its market share. and you forgot torrent client

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.62 Build 3500 on Sep 9, 2010

Excellent, cured a few problems with 10.61. Now shuts down much quicker whereas before it could take literally minutes to shutdown and release memory.

@dotnetnightmare,
"If a website works in Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari, & Konqueror, should'nt it work in Opera?"
Firstly the HTML and CSS specifications are not set in stone, so each browser vender has leeway on how they interpret the specs. Secondly just because other browsers allow borked code to run properly doesn't mean that is how browsers should behave. This attitude is why some people (mainly businesses) are still able to stick with IE6 and other older browsers, it might not render perfectly but it will still work. But that's the problem. They are simply too forgiving of crap code. If someone produces a buggy desktop application do you still expect the operating system to magically run it correctly? You don't do you. You expect it to error. HTML and JavaScript is no different. It's still code. Throw in loose HTML CSS specs and you're going to get trouble. For some reason web users like yourself expect semantically incorrect code to work when there is no reason to expect it to.
hoogladoogla below gets it right. He has a genuine bug and therefore a genuine gripe about Opera performance. Incidentally, the Opera solution to fixing broken website with a downloable Browser.js file is excellent as it allows borked code to be fixed by users themselves even if the offending website refuses to fix their code. With other browsers you'd need and entirely new build, though for Firefox you have greasemonkey and associated addons that can do similar.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.62 Build 3500 on Sep 8, 2010

The Fastest Click&Crash Browser in the World !

hoogladoogla

hoogladoogla reviewed v10.62 Build 3500 on Sep 8, 2010

Sorry guys, even if dotnetnightmare is a fanboy of something he is absolutely right about the bugs in Opera.

Yesterday I worked on a real simple CSS-Layout for a web site and the only browser which could not handle it was Opera. Try to render a third clearing DIV container under 2 floating DIV containers! The clearing DIV should be rendered directly at the bottom of the 2 foating DIVs - even if the last of the 2 floating DIVs is shorter than the first. Opera renders the clearing DIV under the shorter second floating DIV and overlays the first and longest floating DIV with it. This is definetively a wrong behaviour. You need another enclosing wrapper DIV for the floating DIVs to get the correct behaviour.

Opera has a bunch of well known bugs. Of course it is the only browser who reaches a score of 100 in acid3 test. But what is that score if the browser can not handle a simple float/clearing CSS?

CapZap

CapZap reviewed v10.70 Build 9036 Beta on Aug 31, 2010

Once again, loses functionality of forward and back mouse buttons. C'mon, Opera, straighten this out.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.70 Build 9034 Beta on Aug 29, 2010

@Phat Esther: Hate the haters ¬¬

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.70 Build 9034 Beta on Aug 26, 2010

Flutecamp jump up to 9034 from 3488 that means little step from the menship but big jump for opera 9034 - 3488 = 5546 new bugs meanwhile not repaired any old bugs. Opera live is into nobodys life live into the empty space. Last working version 9.27 8841 thinking man why use this legendary release the hiren bootcd too.

CapZap

CapZap reviewed v10.70 Build 9034 Beta on Aug 25, 2010

This iteration shut off the functioning of my forward and back buttons on my mouse. I went back to the prior version. Love Opera.

jakartatech

jakartatech reviewed v10.70 Build 3488 Beta on Aug 19, 2010

Opera i smy default browser for a long long time however they still can't manage the problems with rendering a hell lot of pages out there and I'm forced to switch on those moments to Chrome or Firefox....

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.61 on Aug 16, 2010

Good as always, don't listen the fan-boys down here. Opera is rock solid stable, and the faster browser in the world.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.61 on Aug 16, 2010

@dotnetnightmare: shut up, troll. Opera work fine to me and your stupids fanboyishs words don't make a case, go to use your loved browser and don't waste ours time writing moronic comments again. Anyways, a troll like you always will be a troll.

IE lover, ha don't make me laugh. Sheep

dotnetnightmare

dotnetnightmare reviewed v10.61 on Aug 14, 2010

Very fast, very secure! Many websites do not work properly with Opera. Opera Team will tell you how it's because Opera displays the web the way it should be. They'll even tell you how each site can change their code or scripts to work properly in Opera.
1. Have you ever called up a website and asked them to change their code because Opera Dev's said it's wrong?
2. If a website works in Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari, & Konqueror, should'nt it work in Opera?
3. Chrome & Firefox have a vast amount of plugins & extensions to give the user greater flexibility & customization. Why does Opera have none?
4. Opera forum has a huge list of DAILY complaints from users that fills web page after web page. Theirs even a whole section dedicated to website incompatibility. Some of these are real show stopper bugs, even in their current release build. How come Firefox, I.E, Safari, don't have these extensive web forums for bugs & crashes in their current STABLE builds?

Answer those questions and you will know why Opera suck and these positive reviews are peoples little kids who grabbed the keyboard while mommy & daddy went pe pee. These are the same idiots who tell you how easy linux is and how it is so much better than windows. Linux is free, Opera is free, what do I have to gain by not using them & telling you how they suck? I.E has the most users, FACT!

Opera is made for Opera, not for the web & the people who use it.

oRoFLash

oRoFLash reviewed v10.61 on Aug 12, 2010

There are people who never try a software and then they speak very bad abou it. Opera is one of the best internet browser in the world. Fast, secure, NO SPYWARE!, a great browser!

I use Opera and Firefox. Both are very good, but Opera is my ever choice 'cause is simple a intuitive!
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Opera es uno de los mejores navegadores que existen. Mucha gente que no le gusta es porque ni siquiera lo prueban. Tambien utilizo Mozilla, pero Opera es mi explorador por defecto!

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v10.70 Build 3483 Beta on Aug 11, 2010

Simply the best UI of all the browsers,

Honestly, I use the browser and the email client, the rest of features, I am not interested in, as long as it does not hurt the stability of opera, then no harm of keeping it, otherwise , Opera would be nice if they give Opera lite for just the browser and email client.

Just wondering anybody using Unite, ???

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.70 Build 3480 Beta on Aug 7, 2010

Rock stable version, I looking forward this.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.70 Build 3480 Beta on Aug 6, 2010

I would like to thanks Opera for this fantastic browser.
The best thing about it: it's all-in-one: bittorent, IRC, email, RSS/atom, notes, bookmark sync, full page history search, widget engine, web server (with apps), developer tools, scripting, mouse shortcuts, text-to-speech, voice recognition, one key shortcuts.
Second thing is how you can customize it: the UI is completly flexible, you put any button anywhere and any toolbar can change position and skins found online are applied instantaneously. Another but less know customization feature is scripting: for any keyboard, mouse or voice shortcut you can make a script.
And last but not least: it has userjs support (including greasemonkey scripts)!!!

I have been using it for 5 years and this is definitely the best update ever.

If you're tired of use a myriad of plugins that you need to update individually and if you're tired with slowness, try Opera. You'll be amazed.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.70 Build 3480 Beta on Aug 6, 2010

Opera Is The Best Browser , More Speddy + Stable + Secure than Chrome or FireFox . I have all 3 Browser, but I Always Use Opera

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v10.70 Build 3480 Beta on Aug 6, 2010

I used Opera for many years & even bought it. At the moment my default browser is Chrome. I'm going to give Opera a good try-out as we got on for some time. Going to run it at the side of Chrome & so far looks good, although a bit fiddly to set-up, although it always was.

CapZap

CapZap reviewed v10.70 Build 3480 Beta on Aug 5, 2010

I think I first purchased Opera in about 1997 or 1998 and have used it ever since. I've just never found any substitute for the features that I've relied on all these years -- and I've tried them all. As far as compatibility goes, when Opera won't work with a particular website, my experience is that Firefox and IE won't either, except for browser specific sites.
I come to file forum just for Opera updates and have for many years. It's a solid, fast and easy to use full featured browser.
Firefox drives me nuts because it doesn't automatically alphabetize my bookmarks. How crazy is that? Alphabetizing unnumbered lists has been the standard for centuries. And IE? Don't get me started. It'll nanny you to death. Chrome is like sitting in a white room with one stark chair. It leaves me wanting some controls or menus or something.
Well, everybody's got an opinion and this is mine.

jakartatech

jakartatech reviewed v10.70 Build 3477 Beta on Aug 5, 2010

@dotnetnightmare your right so right besides (after using Opera for years now) I have a feeling the software is down in quality instead of going up. I find more and more web sites not able to render well and I have no other option as using FF or Chrome to get the job done. Especially pages where Credit Card Data or other private data is asked it's really annoying that Opera can't do the job! Still my default browser however I feel to change if Opera and their lab guys fail to issue many of the problems. Yes video keeps running a while even after I closed Opera, it happens even on my PC with 4Gig RAM! OPERA DO SOMETHING AND UPGRADE DON"T DOWNGRADE ANY FURTHER....

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v10.70 Build 3477 Beta on Aug 5, 2010

I went to this as my second browser... my main browser is FF
works good

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.70 Build 3468 Beta on Aug 4, 2010

I have had a love / hate relationship with Opera for years. Even though it has improved it has shown to still be plagued with the same issues of website compatibility it had all those years ago when I first started using it.
My bank website and certain aspects of the OnlineKeystore will not work (to mention two of the sites giving me trouble). As usual I report them to the site itself and also to the Opera team.
However I have got a little fed up at having to flip back to using FF (IE or Chrome work fine as well) to do certain transactions or use some functions on a few websites that will not work as they should with Opera.

grndzro

grndzro reviewed v10.70 Build 3468 Beta on Aug 3, 2010

I have been using opera as a main browser since 10.60 and I have never had a problem with it's stability or closing down. Only a couple fits with website security and regestering but 99% no problems and it's absurdly fast compared to other browsers.

Integrates with Free download manager
Adsweep, Web of trust, and Flashblock javascripts work flawlessly.
Built in adblock works well.
low memory footprint

If you can get your way around how to customize opera it is the best thing around.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.61 Build 3476 RC2 on Aug 3, 2010

@Phat Esther: Don't be such a troll, you are talking about Chrome, not Opera.

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v10.70 Build 3451 Beta on Aug 2, 2010

Been Working with Opera as default browser for quite sometimes,

I think Opera should set a standard for others in user Interface. Simple things mean a lot.

Double click on a word then you get a menu to copy the word or search it, while others you need two steps to do the same thing.

Copy an url, then you got option to paste and go, while others you need to copy then hit enter or go arrow, still two steps.

The email client can now send in HTML format, it became my default email client and I retrieve all my gmail emails through it.

As for the memory :
Opera, FireFox, Safari they all use large amount of RAM thats no surprise, cost for the speed..

What should be surprising that Microsoft OS 7/vista sucks from 1.5 GB - 3 GB
of RAM while Linux uses only 250MB of RAM on the same hardware. Not to mention boot-up time is 25 seconds in Linux versus 5 min in Vista in my Sony laptop.

There was a time (win 3.1) when Bill gates used to laugh about OS warp saying IBM think it's a mainframe referring to booting time, while OS warp used to run super doing multi-threaded multi-tasking in 8MB with 200mHz booting within 90 seconds,

Bottom line have some blame on OS,

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.61 Build 3467 RC1 on Jul 29, 2010

S P Y W A R E ! ! !

Collect and send your personal informations to Opera.
Allmost all activity.

jakartatech

jakartatech reviewed v10.61 Build 3467 RC1 on Jul 29, 2010

I don't know what's the deal here but why can't I get the new Google Image Search rendered on my screen. It could be of not having the right settings but you see if I install Opera and pretend to be just a non technical customer I expect things to work the right way. Anybody has a solution on this? Furthermore... I lost my option to right click on a picture to save it (at some web sites where saving pictures is disabled) I used this option many times in the past however since 10 the option to do so is gone and have to use a screen saver...

I like Opera very much and using this piece of beautiful software quite some years. I'm not looking after speed, who cares as I'm on a fiber optic cable already so no reason to go off on having the fastest browser... However (especially here in Indonesia) for those on slow connections there is the great Turbo mode which works just perfect.

@Tallpaultn... Please do us a favor and stay away from the pages if your opinion is based on nothing, have Opera loaded on your PC and give us a real review.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.61 Build 3467 RC1 on Jul 29, 2010

The Opera browser is truly the all around best browser. Extremely fast, very stable and portable with multi-platform ports for Linux, Windows, OS/X, mobile devices, phones, and even the playstation. Opera is efficient in terms of memory usage and hard drive foot print. The browser is the most feature rich browser out of the box and it's security and ability to be customized is unsurpassed. I have used most of them and Opera stands on its own as the best!! You need to try it and use it for a bit in order to get used to its features, in time you will not be able to go back to IE, Firefox or Safari.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.61 Build 3467 RC1 on Jul 29, 2010

the most fast and secure browser on the market today, with adblock javascript and flash blocking features.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.61 Build 3467 RC1 on Jul 29, 2010

Opera Web browser offers the best internet browsing experience available. And period, don't listen that Fanboys trolling down here.

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v10.61 Build 3467 RC1 on Jul 29, 2010

Once again, we have people trolling the Opera release reviews. Look, if you don't like Opera, at least give a reason. Am I saying that Opera is the best browser? Absolutely not. But I will at least give reasons to justify my opinions either way.

I don't run benchmarks, because if don't need a program to tell me how fast a browser is. I find that Opera has really stepped up its speed once again. I notice that this new build is a bit faster than the last build.

I run websites for a living, and Opera still has some rather annoying rendering issues with my websites . . issues that other browsers (with the exception of Safari) do not have. Quite frankly, these rendering issues (on sites I visit many, many times a day) are pretty much the only thing that is preventing me from making Opera my default browser.

I can understand people's wish for add-ons and ad-block. I like Firefox and Chrome, but I find myself rarely (if ever) using any add-ons or extensions. I guess my browsing needs are rather ordinary compared to other people. However, I do think that if Opera wants to seriously compete, they must begin to match what Firefox and Chrome are doing with their add-ons and extensions.

But I must say that overall I have been very happy with Opera. There are just a couple of little things that bother me about the browser . . but the good news is that Opera has been extremely responsive to the bug reports and feedback that I've sent.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.61 Build 3467 RC1 on Jul 29, 2010

If it worked & was usable, it would probably be a great web browser. Maybe someday.....

some guy

some guy reviewed v10.61 Build 3467 RC1 on Jul 29, 2010

the most secure browser on the market today, shame though no addblock but still the best with the most advanced features.

Slipped it in

Slipped it in reviewed v10.61 Build 3467 RC1 on Jul 29, 2010

This version of Opera makes me forget I'm using Windows 7 and makes me feel like I'm using Windows Vista. If you want a good web browser get Mozilla Firefox. If you want a great browser get Google Chrome because everything that Google releases is beyond awesome.

artisanicview

artisanicview reviewed v10.60 on Jul 16, 2010

Without doubt this is THE FASTEST BROWSER ON EARTH.

- Support for HTML 5.
- First Browser that Plays WebM Videos.
- Built-in AVG protection.
- Geolocation API, offline API and improved support for the Cross-Document Messaging spec.
- Integrated email client, contacts and notes.
- Most vertical screen space of any browser. Best use of sidebar of any browser.
- Opera UNITE for direct photo and file-sharing with your friends. Also with UNITE you can stream and listen your music around the world!!!
- Opera SYNC to synchronize your browsers.
- Opera TURBO is A MUST for slow connections.
- Builtin RSS client. A delight!
- Download manager with BitTorrent support!
- Best bookmarks I ever seen into a browser.

This is a joy to use.

P.S. This indeed is the fastest browser on earth. Take a look to this speed comparision: http://www.downloadsquad...ds-past-google-chrome-6/

dotnetnightmare

dotnetnightmare reviewed v10.70 Build 3451 Beta on Jul 9, 2010

Keeps running after you close the browser! Forum says to get more memory as Opera takes time to unload out of ram after playing online video. I tried to launch the browser 5 minutes after closing and get error "opera is already running". Open task manager and there it is! 2gigs of ram on 7x86 is not enough? I quote one of the main Opera guys:"10.60 was released with known bugs and 10.70 will have bugs to. You can't go from beta to a final release in 5 days or LESS! The developers are more focused on putting out builds that are faster than it's competitors and not caring about stable builds. There has not been one stable release since 10.10 and there are no plans for one in the future." Seems even the employees at Opera are open about the way their getting these high test score against Chromium. Who wants a browser that does not fix the bugs in their current builds?

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v10.60 on Jul 6, 2010

I really wanted to abandon Opera after 10.5 , cause I am using window blind and it does not work at all with it, in addition to other issues, but 10.6, is back on track,,

There is one major enhancement in Opera, that it is ability to send in HTML format using the mail.

I've got to admit the mail client got improved by far. Hooked to my gmail in seconds

I tried tough sites for compatibility issues, opera worked super,,

Well this time I will change my order
Opera
FireFox
IE 8 for purchasing thing (I am only using it in case I wanted to purchase anything from the net, I know that all banks they have to test their software against IE8)

sorry chrome, still have problems to fix, plus limited tweaking options

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.60 on Jul 4, 2010

Fastest performance on Sunspider benchmark. Built-in AVG protection. Highly customizable. Integrated email client. Integrated notes. Best use of sidebar of any browser. Most vertical screen space of any browser

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.60 on Jul 4, 2010

Opera is the fastest browser no doubt.

PS: dotnetnightmare & specially Phat Esther are trolls!! don't listen them

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.60 on Jul 4, 2010

The Opera browser is truly the all around best browser. Extremely fast, very stable and portable with multi-platform ports for Linux, Windows, OS/X, mobile devices, phones, and even the playstation. Opera is efficient in terms of memory usage and hard drive foot print. The browser is the most feature rich browser out of the box and it's security and ability to be customized is unsurpassed. I have used most of them and Opera stands on its own as the best!! You need to try it and use it for a bit in order to get used to its features, in time you will not be able to go back to IE, Firefox or Safari.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v10.60 on Jul 2, 2010

I too have that problem with IPlayer. My problem extends even further, if I close Opera with IPlayer still loaded Opera does not close down, only discover some time later when I try to launch Opera, and get that message telling me another version of Opera is running. Need to use the task manager to end it and launch Opera a second time. That was a major gripe for me and it is now my fourth browser of choice after Chrome, Firefox and IE8.

plasticpig72

plasticpig72 reviewed v10.60 on Jul 1, 2010

hurzx, just because you haven't been able to repeat the issue that dotnetnigtmare is referring to, doesn't mean to say it doesn't exist. I have had the same issue when watching iplayer through opera, close opera down and the sound from the video carries on in the background until you go into task manager and kill it.
That said I find opera by far the fastest browser having previously been a firefox devotee. unfortunately I still have to use firefox for some sites that do not work in opera, mainly due to graphics issues (pages with sections missing in opera, think its to do with flashplayer running in win7 x64). If only these issues could be sorted, I would be happy.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v10.60 on Jul 1, 2010

dotnetnightmare & Phat Esther just look at their other comments.....
btw new version 10.60 maked new steps. Firefox now can add some new futures from Opera, just like they do it in previous time.
Smart fast and flexy. Browser is one but M2 , Opera mail client is another great future in this browser

dotnetnightmare

dotnetnightmare reviewed v10.60 on Jul 1, 2010

Keeps running after you close the browser! Forum says to get more memory as Opera takes time to unload out of ram after playing online video. I tried to launch the browser 5 minutes after closing and get error "opera is already running". Open task manager and there it is! 2gigs of ram on 7x86 is not enough? I quote one of the main Opera guys:"10.60 was released with known bugs and 10.70 will have bugs to. You can't go from beta to a final release in 5 days or LESS! The developers are more focused on putting out builds that are faster than it's competitors and not caring about stable builds. There has not been one stable release since 10.10 and there are no plans for one in the future." Seems even the employees at Opera are open about the way their getting these high test score against Chromium. Who wants a browser that does not fix the bugs in their current builds? Change logs tell the tale. 10.70 is starting out as a partial fix of the ton of bugs found in 10.60. NOT ONE STABLE BUILD? Another Steve Jobs developer writing Opera code in his spare away from iphone4! Good Job! NOT!

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v10.60 Build 3445 Beta on Jul 1, 2010

@ dotnetnigtmare

I tried to replicate your so-called" bug. Guess what ? It could not be repeated. When you close Opera, it closes the video. Just normal behavior... I encourage anyone to try not only Opera but also your alleged failure. It will give people an opportunity to appreciate your credibility, or skills...
Most of "computer issue" are simply due to a "nightmare" somewhere between the keyboard and the chair.
Opera 10.60 final works like a charm until now.

dotnetnightmare

dotnetnightmare reviewed v10.60 Build 3445 Beta on Jul 1, 2010

10.60 Final Release Reviewed: At first this seemed to be real competition for Firefox 4.0! Try watching your favorite online video such as The Bubble from the MSN frontpage. I choose the Leni Kravitz school video. Now with the video playing simply close the browser. It closes the window and keeps on playing the streaming audio till you go into Task Manager and Kill IT!!! This is a FINAL VERSION?

g4qber

g4qber reviewed v10.60 Build 3445 Beta on Jul 1, 2010

a) opera freeze
b) 120% zoom bug
c) large gap between tiled tabs

http://my.opera.com/g4qb/blog/

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.60 Build 3437 Beta on Jun 26, 2010

hahaha
daily update like vuvuzela

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.60 Build 3437 Beta on Jun 25, 2010

This is so much better than 10.5x it's like using a different browser. This is much more like it.
Added bonus; they even cleaned up some bugs i reported. Still plenty are left, but usability is now back to what i expect from Opera.
Edit: build 3442 is out already. Keep up!

nms04

nms04 reviewed v10.60 Build 3435 Beta on Jun 25, 2010

@alexander-gg try to use this one http://fileforum.betanew...-For-Opera/1252663378/1

you don't even need auto-updates --- the last i've updated my filterlist was a few months ago, and i haven't seen one single ad since that day!

exit

exit reviewed v10.60 Build 3435 Beta on Jun 24, 2010

Opera is for web users that know what they want in a Web browser
I use Privoxy for add blocking and set up the Proxy server in opera to use
127.0.0.1 and port 8118 works great

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v10.60 Build 3434 Beta on Jun 23, 2010

I still love Opera after years and years of use. Keeps getting better and better with every single release/apha/beta. I'm not saying that things like FF are bad or worse, simply that Opera is SO much better FOR ME.

Alexander-GG:
As for advertising, I kind of agree. It's kind of, because I use AdMuncher as my primary ad blocker and together with Opera's manual pop-up and content blocking (right click > Block Content...) they do a superb job.

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v10.60 Build 3426 Beta on Jun 21, 2010

The primitive default adblock for Opera has no auto-updated subscriptions list and white-list for domains. Site preferences works fine just for the sites with the static domains. Try to exclude deviantART or some forums from the adblock with the "site preferences". You will see that this is impossible! You can't type @@|http://*.deviantart.com as in Firefox or *deviantart.com/ in Adtwart and AdBlock for Chrome.

I have to update adblock list manually (as usual once in a week). Sure, doing the manual update is not so hard, but why? Is this so hard to make finally a normal adblock for Opera? What for someone should need to dig deeply in CSS rules and some scripts? Is not it a time to implement this option in a normal, human way? Even the new Safari 5 has the almost same adblock as Adblock Plus by W.Palant. Wish that Opera team start doing something in this direction too.

Otherwise, just superb browser which I use as the default browser. Rate 4 just because of above mentioned.

dsp_418

dsp_418 reviewed v10.60 Build 3422 Beta 1 on Jun 17, 2010

I've found the Opera email client a breath of fresh air. A part of a bunch of features still missing, I loved the filter idea and the absence of folders. What Thunderbird is doing in the meantime?
Anyway, a part of the email client, the browser is crazy fast: it start fast, browse fast. Nice to see again the browser and the email together in a browser (last time was with Mozilla... years ago!).
Just a problem with this new beta: dunno why, but it doesn't install in the default folder, therefore doesn't start with the email settings and latest tabs opened: how to fix that? why a 'beta' folder?
4 stars for me

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.60 Build 3422 Beta 1 on Jun 16, 2010

@RitoSwan,

If that were the case other browsers and extension makers wouldn't be copying Opera's innovations

It's inching back to it's 5* rating from me as stability has returned but it appears that modern day browsers are no longer concerned with memory consumption which was always an Opera strong point

RitoSwan

RitoSwan reviewed v10.60 Build 3422 Beta 1 on Jun 16, 2010

Opera ain't kicking nobody's ass, or perhaps its own.
Still a crappy looking, behaving browser which has nothing more than some
crap desktop gadgets which most spyware toolbars have too.

junrrein

junrrein reviewed v10.60 Build 3422 Beta 1 on Jun 15, 2010

i have high expectations for the final release.
if it had support for extensions, opera would kick the a** of every other browser!
so far i'm not seeing any major bug/glitch.
i really love having an email client just built into the browser, and mouse gestures!
these two features simplify mi day :)

thartist

thartist reviewed v10.60 Build 3422 Beta 1 on Jun 15, 2010

It's not yet beta1.

This is a release candidate for the public beta of Opera 10.60, as it says here: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.60 Build 3422 Beta 1 on Jun 15, 2010

10.60 is going to be sooo much better than 10.50. It's really what 10.50 should have been in the first place. Loads of bug fixes and it's actually usable now. Roll on 10.60.....

nugro

nugro reviewed v10.60 Build 3419 Beta on Jun 15, 2010

yeah cause market share automatically mean it's better, just lilke e-peen.

still the best browser out there, unfortunately lately it seems that they've been focusing in adding features that won't be relevant or even be used for some years (if at all) instead of fixing many annoying bug.

and i feel that it became more slower and bloater by the release.... *sigh* still no better browser out there though.

cwalker

cwalker reviewed v10.60 Build 3413 Beta on Jun 14, 2010

This build (3413) was released on saturday. The current build released today is 3419. http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

Lots of bug fixes in 3413. 3419 includes html5 features such as WebM support for video, HTML5 Offline Web Applications, Geolocation, Web Workers, and major update for Cross-Document Messaging.

The kinks still need to be ironed out on some of the html5 features, but this is definitely looking good so far.

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v10.60 Build 3409 Beta on Jun 13, 2010

Many of the features in Opera have been implemented in better form and functionality in other browsers. Opera lets features stagnate after implementation. Opera is no longer a major player in the browser arena for the desktop. Safari, Firefox and Chrome have all been able to far surpass usage and user base numbers in a shorter time than opera. Opera is stuck at 2.6% (w3schools.com) and has not exceeded that in 10 years.

Raton

Raton reviewed v10.60 Build 3409 Beta on Jun 9, 2010

Many of the features just recently out in other browsers originated in Opera years ago !

The DataRat

prediabetessymptoms

prediabetessymptoms reviewed v10.60 Build 3409 Beta on Jun 9, 2010

I love opera I think it quick and more secure for my play internet.

aokromes

aokromes reviewed v10.60 Build 3409 Beta on Jun 8, 2010

I don't see why don't supporting extensions is a reason to rate it has 1.
Even more when other browsers needs a bunch of extensions to have the features opera have builtin.

cwalker

cwalker reviewed v10.60 Build 3409 Beta on Jun 8, 2010

Great browser. Less and less bugs these days. I really appreciate the minimalist design, increasing my screen real estate. This release is currently faster than both firefox and chrome.

@ fixxxer: I don't think that every browser needs to jump on the bandwagon and incorporate extensions, especially if the browser already has the functions built right in. Think ad blocker, userscripts, speed dial, mouse gestures, etc.

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v10.54 Build 3394 Beta on Jun 8, 2010

Even safari now supports extensions. I guess opera is just too busy "innovating" with all of these "useful" features such as built-in torrent support, opera unite, opera turbo and speed dial. Way to go opera!

http://www.engadget.com/.../apple-release-safari-5/

It appears the only thing really holding opera back, minus their ever convenient "security" concerns, is opera software themselves.

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v10.60 Build 3402 Alpha 2 on Jun 8, 2010

Even safari now supports extensions. I guess opera is just too busy "innovating" with all of these "useful" features such as built-in torrent support, opera unite, opera turbo and speed dial. Way to go opera!

http://www.engadget.com/.../apple-release-safari-5/

It appears the only thing really holding opera back, minus their ever convenient "security" concerns, is opera software themselves.

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v10.53 on Jun 8, 2010

Even safari now supports extensions. I guess opera is just too busy "innovating" with all of these "useful" features such as built-in torrent support, opera unite, opera turbo and speed dial. Way to go opera!

http://www.engadget.com/.../apple-release-safari-5/

It appears the only thing really holding opera back, minus their ever convenient "security" concerns, is opera software themselves.

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v10.60 Build 3402 Alpha 2 on Jun 4, 2010

This browser is lightning fast, can´t live without it.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v10.60 Build 3402 Alpha 2 on Jun 4, 2010

Great browser. What i don't like is that they release a snapshot every day. I hope that they don't rush the release of the new version (10.6)...

cmotdibbler

cmotdibbler reviewed v10.60 Build 3400 Alpha 1 on Jun 1, 2010

Impressive speed even compared to nightly developer version of Chromium. I fiddled a bit with some adblock and userstyles scripts and got something usable. Hopefully I won't lose these settings as this moves up to release.

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v10.60 Build 3400 Alpha 1 on Jun 1, 2010

This browser is extremely fast, a noticeable improvement for me over 10.5. I have not tested the widgets or the mail system, as I don't really use that stuff with my browser. This alpha is very stable, though I am not able to use Twitter at all . . it crashes every time I visit the site. This might have something to do with an add-on I had with Firefox, so I am going to try to clear my cache and see if that helps. Otherwise, a really promising alpha.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.53 on May 31, 2010

Opera is my default browser
now as I feel Opera is faster
than Firefox.

Totally True.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.53 on May 29, 2010

It's pretty irrelevant how fast Opera Browser is, if the screen sits there & flashes & flickers at you when you set Windows' Mail as the default mail program, then attempt to send a link by e-mail on WinVista Home Premium SP2. Then Opera Browser must be uninstalled before Windows' Mail can be used with any web browser because each time you click on Windows' Mail, Opera Browser opens until it's uninstalled, then all is well once again. I sure don't want to attempt to use Opera Mail since Opera Browser doesn't work.

0neuser0

0neuser0 reviewed v10.53 on May 23, 2010

I found a bug in opera :when i customize appereance and add some buttons to address bar OR ADD PROXY LIST TO QUICK PREFS the lable for saving passwords at top of page dont appear correctly (only white field displayed) in old versions(9.X) WAND SAVING AREA HAD DISPLAYED IN SEPERATE AREA IN CENTER POF PAGE AND ALL WAS WELL.
MY SCREEN RESOLUTION IS 600*800.I TESTED OTHER SCREEN RESOLUTIONS. WHEN I INCREASED SCREEN RES IT'S SECTION APEARS BUT NOT COMPLETELY(ONLY HALF OF SECTION).

Raton

Raton reviewed v10.53 on May 21, 2010

"Opera is my default browser
now as I feel Opera is faster
than Firefox"

~And~ faster than Chrome. [ Chrome slowed down a LOT when Google actually added some features to it ! As long as Chrome couldn't do much more than open Web pages, it really flew. But -as The Computer Rodent predicted- giving Chrome a little real functionality had the parallel effect of slowing it down considerably. ]

Thing about Opera has always been it's customization. Opea users stick with it year-after-year because they like they way they can configure it. ( I've been using Opera since back in the days it had ad's ...and you had to pay to get rid of the advertisements ! )

Opera has always been the leader in innovation, too. First browser to use tabs, for example. Much of the stuff just now being touted for IE or Firefox has been available in Opera for ~years~ !

Only complaint: Opera v. 10.5x removed a couple of their best features. Like the minimize button on sub-windows, and ability to categorize widgets by placing them in folders. Hope this doesn't represent a trend.

The Computer Rodent

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.53 on May 17, 2010

5 Stars

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.54 Build 3390 Beta on May 13, 2010

Works well now for me since the issues of Youtube (for example) videos have been fixed.
Very good and capable browser. The only thing that I miss is the use of extensions which I have found very useful in FF. However Opera is now of such a good standard that I use it as my main browser.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.54 Build 3390 Beta on May 13, 2010

5/5

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.54 Build 3390 Beta on May 13, 2010

@tontito: you are right, specially about that stupid phat esther who don't know speak in current English

tontito

tontito reviewed v10.54 Build 3390 Beta on May 12, 2010

We should be able to vote on people comments like we do in the betanews section.
Some guys just don't know how to test software or even install it...

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.54 Build 3390 Beta on May 12, 2010

> No separate install just overwritting existing version like the stupid ox.
> No choose menu in setup procedure for upgrade and customizable folder.

Try clicking the Options button. That's what it's for. No obvious improvements over previous builds I've found so far, but nothing missing, either.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.54 Build 3390 Beta on May 12, 2010

No separate install just overwritting existing version like the stupid ox.
No choose menu in setup procedure for upgrade and customizable folder.
Every release less and more less function. The rest is not working.
This browser is not opera.
After 9.5 beta flutecamp go to bugland.
The fastest Flutecamp in Bugland.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.54 Build 3386 Beta on May 12, 2010

@Phat Esther: "No customizable upgrade or separate install."

You are a stupid blind ox, the option for customize the setup is right there. Idiot.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.54 Build 3386 Beta on May 11, 2010

No customizable upgrade or separate install.
Overwrite existing version like stupid ox.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.54 Build 3386 Beta on May 11, 2010

I have been running this build now for a few days and I reported a problem with Yahoo mail (would only work with classic view) but now that BrowserJavaScript has been set to "2" it has worked fine.
Unfortunately Youtube videos and BBC videos (for example) will have a delay in video (not sound) before they display. A "fix" is to scroll the page and it will then appear. This is an issue on my machine and someone else experienced it (in Operas forums) and suggested the scrolling solution, both of us running on W7 x64.
I am not sure why some things that previously worked then seem to be broken on the next release and if I do have issues with any browser it is often Opera which proves itself to be problematic.
I wish that Opera supported extensions similar to that of FF as I am trying to use Opera as my main browser now but I do miss one or two extensions that I often use.

BTW - the video issues seem to be fixed in build 3388.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.54 Build 3386 Beta on May 11, 2010

@Phat Esther: moron as always, are you? the option to customize the install is rigth there.

cwalker

cwalker reviewed v10.54 Build 3386 Beta on May 10, 2010

Been using this build over the weekend. Not one crash, or any bugs to speak of. Seems to be very stable. Feels a bit zippier than the last few builds.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.54 Build 3383 Beta on May 7, 2010

This Opera release is fast, but still has far too many issues to be usable.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.54 Build 3383 Beta on May 6, 2010

No menu for upgrade or separate install just overwritting the exist conf like blind ox.
Must repair operating system for backup.
why?
Is this the future?
No option for custom install?
No bug repaire just some cosmetic.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.53 on May 4, 2010

1. Disappearing mouse pointer when you stop moving the mouse.
2. Cascading tabs and then opening a link from a tab causes parent tab to lose it's toolbar making it impossible to close or drag via the mouse.
3. Typing on the address bar is very laggy
4. Has issues with retaining per site preferences with regards to not accepting cookies, possibly in conjunction with those particular sites being in the speed dial.

@darkwzrd1, Not sure by what you mean about me having a hard-on about Opera. The fact is i've been using and supporting Opera since the 90's (yes, payed for version). The difference between myself and people such as yourself is that i truly support it by constructively criticizing it and file bug reports with Opera as opposed to just blindly giving something 5 stars because you like a product regardless of it's faults. Guess what a developer gains from a reports such as yours? Absolutely nothing. Why? Because you just say everything is fine as opposed to pointing out what is wrong and can be improved. And BTW resorting to ad hominem attacks as you have done with others doesn't make you any more right nor does it make your reviews any more valuable to others. It just makes you look like an outraged teenager.

darkwzrd1

darkwzrd1 reviewed v10.53 on May 4, 2010

@ anonymouscowturd, why do you have such a HARD-ON for Opera? Do you have anything better to do then to complain and b!tch?

jb64

jb64 reviewed v10.53 Build 3374 RC on May 2, 2010

Well, it still hangs for over a minute on start-up and it still doesn't have a minimise per window gadget (yes, I know there's a reason for that in terms of Windows API design, but it still sucks), but at least it doesn't crash. It doesn't seem to have a problem with never-loading-windows of various previous versions for me, although I see others are still suffering from that issue.

All in all, it's an improvement on every previous crap version that was released from the 10.5 betas right through now. but it's still got some work left to do. I've used recent versions on a new machine and it has been a really positive experience.

I just wonder why the existing users should be left to wonder why it no longer works so well as it used to for so long?

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.53 Build 3374 RC on May 1, 2010

Compare same version opera on win7 and in wmvare win9x parallell I wondered how smooth and twice fast the youtube in opera meanwhile on win7 I have nearly always long started and after stopped playing problems.
Running opera in wmvare guest winME opsys incredible speed and strong flash performance.
UNBELIEVABLE
Virtual system perf much better than real os
UNBELIEVABLE
Must see opera progrmmers trying it
I dont believe my eyes

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.53 Build 3374 RC on Apr 29, 2010

I'm still getting sites that don't finish loading.
Also still have bugs where by mouse gestures are unable to close application related windows/pages such as bookmarks, windows etc.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.52 Build 3370 Beta on Apr 28, 2010

because opera not working on my microwave owen

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.52 on Apr 28, 2010

10.53 is already at RC because 10.52 had a critical security issue, on the first day.
Of course all browsers have security issues but to have one discovered on the day of release is not just embarrassing but just proves how rushed and sloppy Opera has become with the 10.5x release.
I'm a long time supporter and user of Opera, since 3.x; But this 10.5x release is really getting my back up. It is improving albeit slowly. But really, the rush and sloppiness is showing through which is disappointing.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v10.52 on Apr 28, 2010

Very impressed with this release, Opera is my default browser now as I feel Opera is faster than Firefiox. Great stuff.

uestudae

uestudae reviewed v10.52 on Apr 28, 2010

My Chrome stopped working after the MS browser choice update, I'm glad really as this made me try other browsers. Opera is by far the fastest, even faster than Chrome and easy to set up and use. Well done Opera.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.52 on Apr 28, 2010

i think opera is the fastest browser no doubt.

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v10.52 on Apr 27, 2010

"Alalec, why do you keep loading & using Process Lasso if you think it's so terrible & slows down your pc?" - Tallpaultn

"Tallpaultn [sic], why do you keep loading & using Opera [sic] if you think it's so terrible & slows down your pc?" *fixed

LOL?

Shouldn't you stay out of others business based on your reasoning? FLAMEON

Edit: Tallpauln: hrmm, that sounds really familiar. Although, I'm still perplexed what that's supposed to mean...

Edit2: yes, a critical security vulnerability was found in Opera although they were very quick to release a patch in response, which appears to be the reason for 10.53 RC. Also, it appears it may have been discovered unintentionally, which was targeted at WebKit.

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v10.52 on Apr 27, 2010

It used to be my favorite browser, now I'm done with it, although unite is totally disabled since v10.10 opera opens unnecessary udp ports without permission.
Closed source code + weird new features + strange behavior it's enough for me, Security first then the rest, I uninstalled opera (forever?) and set FF as my default browser.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.52 on Apr 27, 2010

Some things don't change. Opera fannibois are elated once again I suppose.

@Zero-Point
First part of your nick, 'ZERO', describes you well. Self explanatory for ordinary people, but of course that excludes you. :>(

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v10.52 on Apr 27, 2010

This version appears to have fixed the "still loading last element" bug which landed some two years ago, so it gets a five from me.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.52 on Apr 27, 2010

This is actually the same as RC5 which was the same as RC4 which puzzles me. This means that all the bugs that have been reported for those builds have not been addressed. I know the issues I have are still there with a slight increase in memory consumption to boot.

It is much better than 10.50 but seems for me not to be any improvement over 10.51.

EDIT @Tallpaultn
Are you a masochist? Why would you keep coming back for more if something is this bad to you? I can only assume this because you NEVER say what the problems you might be having actually are and yet you call others fanyboys, righhht. let me guess, Firecrotch is better

Jimmy_Tsatsos

Jimmy_Tsatsos reviewed v10.52 on Apr 27, 2010

http://secunia.com/advisories/39590 same story as http://secunia.com/advisories/38820/????

Hope this time the Opera developers will provide a fix quicker than the last time, even if it is not a Vulnerability.

hap8192739

hap8192739 reviewed v10.52 Build 3370 Beta on Apr 26, 2010

RC 5 goes final offically tomorrow tuesday

Raton

Raton reviewed v10.52 Build 3370 Beta on Apr 25, 2010

The PC Rat just wants his sub-window the restore button
back that was lost in Opera v. 10.51 as well as hierarchical
widgets categorization Opera removed.

You don't ~remove~ features ...you ADD features ! This is
like removing FM radio and power brakes from cars, or regress
TV's to black-and-white sets !

The PC Rat

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.52 Build 3370 Beta on Apr 24, 2010

The last few builds are actually RC's. 3368=RC4 and 3370=RC5. With that said I have mixed feelings. I see now that the memory consumption is never going to return to the usage of the 10.x releases most likely because of the new engine but I can live with that because I am encountering fewer bugs and stability issues. I do come across the odd bug still(that have been in for awhile too) and the odd site not rendering 100% properly which like the reviewer below said makes it not perfect (so why give it a perfect score?). I've noticed that with these last few releases the Peacekeeper score is becoming a non issue on their forums which is ok by me because the stability has improved greatly since it has

This is the best browser on the market and silly reviews stating....well...... not really saying anything don't change that. I laugh at those who say Opera doesn't offer much or is good only for an average user when every other browser copies the innovations made by Opera.

All in all they have re-established themselves with the 10.52 releases and the further away from the ballot box mess it gets the closer to it's usual 5* rating it will be

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v10.52 Build 3370 Beta on Apr 23, 2010

Lightning fast and best browser ever

aokromes

aokromes reviewed v10.52 Build 3367 Beta on Apr 22, 2010

Na, he is firefox lover XD

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v10.52 Build 3367 Beta on Apr 21, 2010

"This guy must really hate Opera or is paid by Microsoft." Paid by Microsoft? do you really think anyone there cares about Opera and it's lousy market share? There is nothing "special" about this browser. Any "speed differences" are negligible among today's browsers and it's a ridiculous selling point. I still have it installed, try it here and there but this version is much like the rest, nothing special.

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v10.52 Build 3367 Beta on Apr 21, 2010

Been using Opera as one of my alternative browsers for over 10 years and it's nice to have an alternative, that works for me, instead of only one or two choices when I need it. I use it regularly without any major negative experiences and hope it improves with time. I install betas without any major incidents and may have had a few in the past but they were resolved within a reasonable amount of time. It was fast then and it is still one of the fastest now if that is what you're looking for and I haven't had any major problems with the way it renders the pages of the places I visit. It is a permanent installation on my computer although I use it sandboxed "just in case". It is easy to reinstall if I have a problem and I don't use any addons with it ... I have those on my Firefox installation when I need them.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.52 Build 3367 Beta on Apr 21, 2010

@ryan2679

Here's #8 for your accounting record. :>) Cheers!!

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.52 Build 3367 Beta on Apr 21, 2010

A great and well functional browser that has finally made it to be my main one used. My only wish is that it could support plugins rather than widgets.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v10.52 Build 3367 Beta on Apr 21, 2010

Speed wise, Opera has now proven itself quite well.

Now time to move on to improving online sync area as well as Widgets (and Mail sections).

hedley

hedley reviewed v10.52 Build 3363 Beta on Apr 19, 2010

this build resolve lots of bugs and it's solid. So go on.
Remember :
International language release is available at:
http://snapshot.opera.co.../Opera_1052_3363_in.exe

juanito1968

juanito1968 reviewed v10.52 Build 3363 Beta on Apr 16, 2010

International language release is available at:
http://snapshot.opera.co.../Opera_1052_3363_in.exe

The BetaNews hyperlink is just for the english language release.

Raton

Raton reviewed v10.52 Build 3353 Beta on Apr 15, 2010

Opera 10.51 is great, but the first version of this wonderful browser to actually
~remove~ features. I want my restore button back !

The PC Rat

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.52 Build 3353 Beta on Apr 14, 2010

Yee-haw !! Another Beta Version of Opera Browser that doesn't work for my collection, but will excite the opera bois greatly without doubt.

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v10.52 Build 3353 Beta on Apr 14, 2010

The only issue I had with the last beta is some of my saved bookmarks on my personal bar suddenly drop off for no reason. I have not had a single crash for several betas now. I am hoping that this new beta remedies the bookmark bar issue I have been experiencing. Otherwise, Opera is superb!

hap8192739

hap8192739 reviewed v10.52 Build 3353 Beta on Apr 14, 2010

All people here ought to take the fact into consideration that that they are dealing with a beta (at least here) ... I f they are going to give strong ratings one way or the other, it's only fair they restrict those to the finals

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.52 Build 3353 Beta on Apr 14, 2010

Virtually all the previous betas (and alphas) have been trouble-free on my system, but the last couple of builds have crashed when I carry out simple tasks such as closing a tab. Minus one star for that.

I've also found that it now makes itself my default browser without asking. I prefer to use Firefox as the default, only using Opera for some sites and for testing.

raback

raback reviewed v10.51 on Apr 13, 2010

I used to like much more the 9.x GUI.
Still a good browser, but less usable than in its previous incarnation.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.52 Build 3347 Beta on Apr 9, 2010

I can't believe just how much Opera has moved along over the last few months in its development. It has taken quite a while for me to be able to run it as my main browser, having to revert to IE or FF due to some incompatibilities with certain websites.
However needing to use FF or IE has become a rarity and I appreciate just how capable Opera has become, for me.
I would like it if they had the plugins rather than the widgets as I do miss certain ones that I used in FF.
In fact it is only those plugins that make me keep FF on my machine.

sajjansinghania

sajjansinghania reviewed v10.52 Build 3347 Beta on Apr 9, 2010

I wish they made browsers like Opera or at least close to it. Opera gave us an year back what today all the advanced browsers do.

Best of luck.

legion

legion reviewed v10.52 Build 3347 Beta on Apr 8, 2010

@nms04 Ill try this, thanks :)

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.52 Build 3347 Beta on Apr 8, 2010

Congrats, Opera!! You did it once again!!

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v10.52 Build 3347 Beta on Apr 8, 2010

The browser itself is nice, though I don't believe it's better than the competition. Many sites seem to have odd issues with it. In any case I refuse to ever use it again once Opera turned into whiny crybabies and kept running to the EU with silly complaints and demands.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v10.52 Build 3344 Beta on Apr 3, 2010

@legion there's already something like adblock for opera ;)
http://fileforum.betanew...-For-Opera/1252663378/1

legion

legion reviewed v10.52 Build 3344 Beta on Apr 2, 2010

When Opera support AdBlock and LastPass I'll switch to that browser for eternity :)

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v10.52 Build 3344 Beta on Apr 1, 2010

Well it's hard to believe you do have anything constructive to say, Tallpaultn, since you haven't so far here. Write something that actually means something, and I'm sure people may begin to believe you're credible, at all.

I have only had a few stability issues in the first 10.50 alpha/betas, but nothing outstanding so far.

----
This guy is great--outstanding!

You may have "freedom of speech", but I did not state your opinion could not be expressed. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with others finding your opinion credible and worthwhile. I'm not sure how you think your comments are none of my business considering I, and others, are here to look at reviews and make a judgement if a particular application may suit my needs. I may have listened to your argument but considering you had none, I offered my advice. I was just being the nice guy informing you that your statements may actually mean something if you provided any evidence at all.

"buzzzzzzzzzzz off!!!!" -- you're kidding, right? oh, April Fools!

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v10.52 Build 3344 Beta on Apr 1, 2010

It just doesn't feel like a beta!

Fast and stable!

shallot

shallot reviewed v10.52 Build 3344 Beta on Apr 1, 2010

@Tallpaultn

Don't you have anything better than do than just troll and contribute noise ? do something useful.

Do you seriously think Opera will release something that doesn't work ? Check either your machine or your head.

MikeTechno

MikeTechno reviewed v10.52 Build 3344 Beta on Apr 1, 2010

Oh my GOD this thing is FAST!!!! I don't know how they managed to get that big of a speed boost out of this thing but it is just sick fast now with this new version! Major leap forward here for Opera in this release when it comes to performance. You just aren't going to believe how fast this browser is now. VERY impressive! I loved Opera before, but with the new speed of this release, I have to say that I am even more in love with it. Now, if we can just get them to finally incorporate the same cool screen capture feature that Maxthon 2.x has had for a long time. Every browser needs to have that feature built into it in todays modern world of browsers. There is just no reason to leave that feature out of any advanced browser today, as useful of a tool as that is.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.52 Build 3344 Beta on Apr 1, 2010

I am so excited. Yet another release of Opera Browser that doesn't work. I give it a 10 with the 1 in front of the 0 removed.

Nothing matches a supposedly fast browser that doesn't work. :>)

@Shallot
It's none of your business what I have to do - that's for me to know & you to wonder about. Whether what I do is useful or not is also none of your business.

Yes, I do seriously think Opera will release a browser that doesn't work since they have done so numerous times lately. You might need to check your head & machine. My head & computer are both functioning just fine unlike Opera Browser. So you can go fly a kite & mind your own friggin' business while you're at it might be a pretty good idea.

In other words, buzzzzzzzzzzzz off!!!!!

@ Zero-Point
I have freedom of speech just like you do. Nothing constructive to say is coming out of your voice box. Mind your own business - buzzzzzzzzzz off!!!!!
The first part of your screen name describes you well.

shallot

shallot reviewed v10.52 Build 3338 Beta on Mar 30, 2010

This deserves a 10 !

Don't know why these people have given a 1. I guess they do not know how to download and install a software. I give them a ZERO.

This is by far the best and the fastest browser out there.

Go Opera Go !!!

terryjackson

terryjackson reviewed v10.52 Build 3338 Beta on Mar 30, 2010

Looks great at first sight, but once you start to use, you understand why almost noone on earth uses this empty thing.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.52 Build 3338 Beta on Mar 30, 2010

I like Opera Browser, but would like it even more if it worked.

Shallot, I give you a huge 0!!!!! so you & Opera Browser are a matching pair. Opera does not work for everyone sorry to say...

netean

netean reviewed v10.52 Build 3338 Beta on Mar 30, 2010

Nowadays I only have 2 browsers installed Opera 10.5 and Google Chrome 5 (ok I've got IE8 but I wouldn't use that if it was the last browser on earth!)

I've been using Opera 10.5 since the early betas and for me, it's been absolutely fine. I have noticed a couple of problems, but nothing major and certainly none of the problems that other users here have reported.

10.5x isn't perfect and I do agree it feels rushed to get it out of beta. I'm running build 3337 and it's borked flash - some flash works, some doesn't. But I cut it some slack (it's beta afterall)

ON the whole I really really like 10.5, way more than any of their previous versions. For me, it's fast and stable and usable, and I like it a lot.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.52 Build 3338 Beta on Mar 30, 2010

Set the panels to floating. What happens? A complete abortion.
At least you can now define a shortcut for private tabs now. This is oh so slow getting to release quality.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.52 Build 3337 Beta on Mar 29, 2010

Congrats, Opera. Yet another version of Opera Browser that is junky & simply doesn't work for lots of computer users. Maybe someday a version will come out that works. In the meantime, back at the ranch........................

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.52 Build 3337 Beta on Mar 29, 2010

Agree with Blaxima here.
This thing is still bugtastic. Opera rushed 10.5 out of the door for the ballot and the quality has suffered. Badly.
i'm having numerous problems with the GUI. Sometimes the address bar will lose focus. The scroll tab switcher has ridiculously blurry text (something that was perfectly good before in 10.10). Also there is no keyboard shortcut for "Private Tab". Loading of some pages is slow for no apparent reason. I think i'll be waiting for another few iterations before using this as my main browser.

elitegangsta

elitegangsta reviewed v10.52 Build 3337 Beta on Mar 29, 2010

I am in no way knocking Opera as a browser. It has a little too much going on for my taste from a GUI standpoint. Speeds are quick and accurate, for that I like. From an interface standpoint, i much prefer Firefox of the new Chrome 5 build for simplicity and speed. All in all. Very average for my taste, though a fantastic browser for the masses.

beelzebub360

beelzebub360 reviewed v10.52 Build 3333 Beta on Mar 27, 2010

A good browser but very slow on certain sites like orkut..
but the Turbo MODE makes up for it..
All in all a Good browser up there with Chromium , Firefox ,Safari

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.52 Build 3333 Beta on Mar 26, 2010

If this is "getting better all the time" I would take that to mean it isn't perfect so why should it be given a perfect score?

10.50 was this most problematic build I've ever used since I started using Opera back in version 8. 10.51 however is a big improvement and enough of one to make me upgrade from 10.10 BUT I'm not as satisfied as I have been in the past because while they've introduced some really nice new features they've compromised stabilty. The thing I've always called Firefox out on was how each release broke things that worked and that it was memory hungry and now Opera with all of the 10.5x releases have gone that way too and it's only fair to call them on it.

This build has not fixed http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ or the fact that when you open a new speed dial tab it requires extra clicks to gain focus and become usable. These are know bugs but it seems that Peacekeeper score is more important than bugs old and new. I just don't understand the point of going nowhere fast.

plasticpig72

plasticpig72 reviewed v10.52 Build 3333 Beta on Mar 26, 2010

After 10.5 we seem to be recovering. This has thankfully put opera back to the top of the table in my book. All the problem seem to be ironed out now, at least the ones I was having. IMHO there's nothing else comes close Firefox used to be my favourite but that is on a rapid downward spiral.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v10.52 Build 3333 Beta on Mar 26, 2010

Getting better all the time!

butthead

butthead reviewed v10.52 Build 3333 Beta on Mar 26, 2010

Tallpaultn: how about reporting your bug with a sensible description of the problem you have: https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/

nugro

nugro reviewed v10.52 Build 3333 Beta on Mar 26, 2010

This is snapshot release and isn't for general user... Still more usable than most browser though.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.52 Build 3333 Beta on Mar 25, 2010

Still doesn't work!! -10!!!!!!!!! More of the same from Opera!!

Butthead, I've already done that numerous times without success.

alligoodw

alligoodw reviewed v10.52 Build 3333 Beta on Mar 25, 2010

Much, much better! Sites that were previously giving me trouble (www.intellicast.com), are working with no problems. This is an improvement.

michelblh52@netscape.net

michelblh52@netscape.net reviewed v10.51 on Mar 24, 2010

Very disapointed with this new version. I've installed it above an existing installation of opera 9 which was managing 5 emails accounts and:
1) I've lost all my emails after the 2009/10/26 ???????
2) I've lost all my contacts
3) no backups where performed before installation, so everything is definitively lost.
4) I was quite pleased using Opera 10.50. I had installed it on an old copy of opera 9 and everything was OK. Mails and contacts. So I was quite confident with 10.51 :(
5) I do not receive any new mail except with one of my accounts.

I'm very upset and would have put 0 stars if possible

Will go back to thunderbird and firefox definitely

jb64

jb64 reviewed v10.51 on Mar 24, 2010

Same experience for me as RC3 - it hangs for about a minute (ie no window opens) before doing anything and then crashes. And again they call it finished software like 10.50. As such if this was my experience the first time I tried the browser I probably would not bother again. As it is I know it's been a consistent browser over the last twelve years of use and it offers the experience I want, I will persevere a little longer.

I look forward to 10.52 or 10.53 where they actually fix the rest of the serious new bugs they've created since 10.20.

Oh and darkwzrd1, you are a wanker. You don't bother to review the software itself, you just repeatedly call other people "freak'n idiots" if they happen to rate the current version of Opera very low. I notice you didn't provide a solution to my issue. 10.20 works fine. 10.51 does not. Enough said from me, feel free to continue however.

postaue

postaue reviewed v10.51 on Mar 24, 2010

I've been using Opera for many years. In this latest version, no page loads completely. Is midway. Improved in many respects, but worsens show all pages. A pity. In spite of myself, I can only give two stars

maddy143ded

maddy143ded reviewed v10.51 on Mar 23, 2010

the beast browser currently.
beat Google Chrome in Peacekeeper Benchmarks...
some amazing rendering results, but needs to improve on the graphics front a lot..

hedley

hedley reviewed v10.51 on Mar 23, 2010

User Interface:

Fixed
Drag and Drop not working in some instances
Deleting a bookmark closing/collapsing all folders
Focus being lost when deleting bookmarks
Integrated search performing searches in Google and not in the page
The Opera O menu button reappearing when the Menu bar is enabled
The Opera icon remaining in the system tray after closing Opera
Minimized tabs not displaying after a restart
Favicon not being added to Bookmarks due to a question mark in the filename
Individual characters in Chinese text being rotated anti-clockwis

laptopy.net

laptopy.net reviewed v10.51 on Mar 23, 2010

One of the best what Opera have is integrated mail client.
For me is much better and faster than thunderbird. Don't have to open another program!

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v10.51 on Mar 23, 2010

It's my favourite browser. Firefox for me is going to over-code-software. Chrome is no.1 spyware and it's got lack of features.

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v10.51 on Mar 23, 2010

Opera 10.5 rocks, not only is it a total suite but its the fastest in terms of browsing and mail, team Opera works day and night to come out with latest patches for security, it also has the best interface of all the browser suites period.

tewa

tewa reviewed v10.51 on Mar 22, 2010

the ini variables still not working, back to 10.10 again

the_hammer

the_hammer reviewed v10.51 on Mar 22, 2010

Not impressed way to many issues.

Actually pretty disappointing for a 10.5 version

Drewz

Drewz reviewed v10.51 on Mar 22, 2010

I been using Opera since version 6. There's no real reason it can't work if you're willing to put in the slight effort. 10.5 is better than its ever been for coming out of the box without having to do too much to have it work like the other browsers. As for someone saying he can't log on ebay, I never had any problems with it.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.51 on Mar 22, 2010

Giving Opera Browser a -10 rating in its current state is an undeserved compliment. Unbelievable that they keep releasing such crappy attempts at making a browser that works...

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.51 on Mar 22, 2010

Well, once again they just slapped a final tag on an RC with issues instead of trying to make more fixes before the final release.
This is the exact same build as this one http://fileforum.betanew...Opera-v1051/945720329/9

So if you're hoping problems from that build are gone you're out of luck. I would definitely say to upgrade from 10.50 which is a buggy mess but if you're happy with 10.10 just know that you are going to be getting some nice new features at the price of some stability issues and greater memory usage.

picsoetje

picsoetje reviewed v10.51 on Mar 22, 2010

I installed it, tested it, loved it !!
Great brower if not the greatest.

One particular feature in IE8 made me go back to IE8 however:
"Close unused folders in History and Favorites".

Maybe it will be added in Opera ?

pdail

pdail reviewed v10.51 on Mar 22, 2010

I have been using this Wonderful Browser, since they started V 10.5 and outside of a few problems, that seem to go away, with each new Build, I really like it. As far as the Problems go, there is no perfect Browser.They all have there little Quirks. And I just accept it and move on. If you have ever tried writing Code, for a Browser, you know how hard it is. So, if your Browser doesn't work the way you like, there are lot's of them out there. Enjoy your Day!!

naosuke

naosuke reviewed v10.51 Build 3315 RC3 on Mar 21, 2010

I finally decided to give this browser a chance. I've been a frequent user of Firefox and Google Chrome (switching back and forth). I have to say that Opera has come a loooooong way since the last time I used it ( since the Opera 8 series). It's definitely the best browsing experience I've had so far between the modern browsers.
I'm not too sure how secure or buggy the browser is yet, but I've had "0" problems with it. It even renders web pages correctly nowadays; which was a major problem with the browser a long time ago.

5/5 stars

seajovia

seajovia reviewed v10.51 Build 3315 RC3 on Mar 21, 2010

Opera Web browser offers the best internet browsing experience available, without doubs

darkwzrd1

darkwzrd1 reviewed v10.51 Build 3315 RC3 on Mar 19, 2010

jb64, your a freakn' idiot. It's almost sickening,,, I'm so tired of reading posts from complete morons.

jb64

jb64 reviewed v10.51 Build 3315 RC3 on Mar 19, 2010

Wow. And I didn't think the 10.50 release could get any worse. But it did. It's called 10.51 RC3.

I installed this after making a complete backup. This is truly appalling. It hung for 1 minute and then could not load my 10.20 configuration, instead it just crashed. I tried again, same result. I tried again, this time selecting no open windows and it loaded, okay....

I shut it down. I had ONE open window that it had to remember net time. It took one minute to sit there doing nothing (just hanging) before it loaded. It only started loading the page after the one minute period.

IE6 is more functional that this version. Get your act together Opera, cos this is a new low. I'm back to 10.20, which at least works.

Oh they did fix the windows 7 window selection on the task bar. I could access my email. The rest is questionable.

AmpFeare

AmpFeare reviewed v10.51 Build 3315 RC3 on Mar 18, 2010

alright blax if u got something u seem to be buggy/wrong with opera, ****ing report it to them on THEIR forum instead of b****ing about it here. they have forums for a reason. jesus h christ, 4 stars because im a firefox fan, otherwise its a fine browser that shouldnt be overlooked.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.51 Build 3315 RC3 on Mar 18, 2010

"This is the third release candidate for Opera 10.51 for Windows. It fixes the following issues:

Fixed CARAKAN-1187 (Crash when scrolling page)
Fixed CARAKAN-1191 (Date pickers on several travel sites fail)"

I just hope they don't slap a "final" label on 10.51 the way they did with 10.50 when it was of (at best) beta quality. The only thing I noticed with this release is a slight increase in memory usage.

EDIT---------------------
@AmpFeare
What ****ing makes you think I don't? Check their forums and the Desktop team and you will find me using the same ****ing name.
Instead of "trying" to preach to me how I " should" be telling them on their forums you should learn how to leave a proper ****ing review here because your's tells me nothing about this browser and more specifically this release

@darkwzrd1
It's you're, not "your". Sorry but spell check can't help you with that one. Makes you wonder who the real "moron" is

@smanofsteel
Don't have Opera open while you do this
Go into the profile folder>toolbar - open standard_toolbar.ini you will see this

[Pagebar.style]
Button style=1
Large Images=0
Wrapping=0
Maximum Button Width=180 (change this to decrease the overall tab size)

smanofsteel76

smanofsteel76 reviewed v10.51 Build 3315 RC3 on Mar 18, 2010

I love the Aero in Opera 10.51 but I wish Opera had something similar to App Tabs in Firefox or the pinning tab feature in Chrome. In other words, the abilty to see only the icon on the tab. When I choose to only show the icon in Opera by adjusting the appearance settings, the tab is still very wide which in my Opinion defeats the purpose. Anyone know how to do this? If so, e-mail me at smanofsteel76@gmail.com. If Opera had this or if I could figure it out, I would have given this a 5!

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.51 Build 3315 RC3 on Mar 18, 2010

Opera once again setting the record on putting out the world's very worst browser that doesn't work!! Congrats, Opie!!

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.51 Build 3313 RC2 on Mar 17, 2010

This is from the Opera Desktop Team
"Here is a second 10.51 Release Candidate for Windows. A few small stability fixes have been added, and we fixed a problem with Chinese text being rotated for some users."

So it's back to being a little disappointed. Not that there has been any regressions with this build but there just aren't any (for me) noticeable improvements, all my issues remain and I find it rather funny that they would call this RC 2 when it's really nothing more than RC 1.2

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.51 Build 3311 RC1 on Mar 15, 2010

Now this is more like it. The 10.50 release was a huge disappointment but this release is righting all the wrongs. Most notably with this is the reduced memory usage and memory leaks which where always an area where Opera excelled until the 10.50 release.

It's still not there yet but things are looking much better now. It's worth mentioning that it appears that java is disabled in the options and you are unable to select. This tells me that it is probably the source of the memory issues and that they will be improving their java engine, just a guess

plasticpig72

plasticpig72 reviewed v10.50 on Mar 14, 2010

I had switched to opera from firefox and all was well with the world. Then I upgraded to 10.5 and I cannot believe they have released such a buggy product. It is impossible to log into ebay it keeps reloading the log on screen and I have never had a browser crash so much at least 4 times an hour. I have NEVER had any browser with so many failings. Why did they release this it's awful.

I hope they get it sorted soon as I don't want to go back to firefox and Chrome isn't an option!

draelail

draelail reviewed v10.50 on Mar 6, 2010

There are many browsers installed on my computer, but one of them is simply the best and is clear winner. That is Opera. These days, browser is one of the "start-up" applications and spending great deal of time using it, means that you have to use the best, the most secure and the fastest. Well done Opera team.

ciohaeso

ciohaeso reviewed v10.50 on Mar 6, 2010

@Vimes: You use Fanboy's Adblock List are you? Is a bug of that not Opera, if you delete the urlfilter.ini file, all work fine again.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.50 on Mar 5, 2010

Installed on two separate PC's. It will not play videos or clips from IMDB. Opera 10.10 worked fine, as does FF or Chrome.

Reported as a bug.

tewa

tewa reviewed v10.50 on Mar 3, 2010

i updated from 10.10 to 10.50 last night and it appeared good at first glance. the speed was fast! its memory went up to 170MB some times but most time it uses 40-50MB. its general response was also fast.

however, there are also severe problems. for one, it doesn't like to download any executables, not from this site, not even from opera's own website. in addition, the custom menu i put in since opera 6 or 7 suddenly stopped working. for example, one the menu item can open the current webpage in firefox, but in this version of opera, the firefox started up but not showing the webpage it suppose to show.

overall, i like the performance of this version, but like many people said, this should be a beta, not good enough for a stable release.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.50 on Mar 3, 2010

Holly cow! Opera is smoking now. This is a winner and very stable. Super functions and safety built in. I may have to abandon Chromium to second fiddle. This is a great browser.

BelgianWaffle

BelgianWaffle reviewed v10.50 on Mar 3, 2010

It is truly crazily fast, seems very solid so far, and has all the features from previous versions. I rate it high because of obviously the speed, the security (Opera is consistently rated the best on this subject) and the functionality. Especially on a netbook this version is perfect.

jb64

jb64 reviewed v10.50 on Mar 3, 2010

This is a piece of crap if it is supposed to be a final version. Avoid it, until they release something decent if you've actually bothered to configure your version in the past. Okay, so some people aren't having any problems, but wow, there are a lot who are! From alpha to beta to RC 4, 5 then release in a few weeks???!?!??! I don't think so given past beta releases. A few months maybe...

I can't even view certain windows. it took over a minute to even display the main window. I have lost the ability to minimise windows. I have always run it windows-based, rather than full-sized, it is more functional for me to swap between recent windows. I can't get to any friggin' menu now to configure anything. No, the BIG 'O' menu doesn't appear, so no point in following the help. This was a problem in the early alpha version too.

I hate the 73 selections for each open tab from the windows 7 task bar. How the hell do I turn that feature off? Why the hell is it enabled by default anyway? Other programs only this on a right mouse click, not a left mouse click. I'd look for the option to turn it off, but oh wait, I can't even get to a menu. Sh*t.

I've been following the alpha/betas this time by doing a separate install and it seems to work quite well if you completely ignore previous configurations (e.g. the missing bookmarks issue, the big 'O' menu etc.). For existing users who have configured the browser the way they want it, and one of the strengths of Opera (without 276 plug-ins, like other browsers), oh oh, problems abound.

I will say one thing, they haven't screwed with the ability to downgrade with this release, which adds one star more than this beta deserves, and better than I fared with previous beta versions. It's a beta. It sucks, I want a real version.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v10.50 on Mar 3, 2010

I rate it high because I am really impressed by the browser.

To these ones who have problems: please report bugs here https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/

Techguy22

Techguy22 reviewed v10.50 on Mar 3, 2010

Opera has out done themselves once again! Opera 10.5 is rock-solid and it's so much faster than any other browser out there! Once again Opera Software has proven they indeed have the best web browser period!

nms04

nms04 reviewed v10.50 on Mar 3, 2010

great release as always!!! haven't run into any problems so far ... btw must have tool for oper users, if you didn't already know, there's a lil software called "opera adblock configurator" u've got to use it one time, and u wont see ad's anymore :D
http://fileforum.betanew...-For-Opera/1252663378/1

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

I am very disappointed with this release. In their hast they have released a final that doesn't even perform as well as the version 9 and 10.0 alphas did. It's riddled with silly mistakes and lingering bugs. The memory consumption has sky rocketed as well and that was one of the main arguments against Firefox that I always made.

While they did introduce some enhancements with this build it just wasn't ready for prime time and hopefully with the rush for the ballot box out of the way they can get back to the quality I have come to expect from the Opera team. Till then it's back to 10.01 for me

It's quite clear from all the negative feedback over at Opera (which has never been the case) that this rush job is not a suitable update for existing users
http://my.opera.com/desk...50-is-released#comments

AzureSky

AzureSky reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

http://www.enra.nl/ still crashes this build and crashes builds tested back into the 9.x range.

Still my primary browser, but bugs like this being ignored after having been reported months ago being in a "gold" build really arent something i consider acceptable, sorry Opera, gotta give you less then 5 stars this time, maby you will fix this bug b4 the next snapshot build comes out.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

10.50 is the best version of Opera yet with increased speed and performance, a re-hauled interface for Win 7 and extra features that other browsers can only imitate.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

I've had no major issues with this 10.5

Congrats to the DEVs for the hard work and excellent job at making it so fast!
On my system it is faster than Chrome5 and Firefox 3.6

-Windows XP SP3

m00m00

m00m00 reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

This FINAL is more like a beta. It is fast, when it feels like being fast. It hangs without fully loading some pages that other browsers fly through. It looks good, but I do not feel like fiddling with it and future fix releases to browse the web.

I really did give it a good running around with, but, Chrome IS faster and Firefox is my current browser, and it will stay that way.

Why this is the final release with so MANY nagging bugs baffles me. Are they trying to paint a less than adequate picture of their browser ? Or was it rushed for some Microsoft ballot agenda?

Give it a try... you will probably go back to their 10.10 version or stick to your Chrome / Firefox. For fanbois only I am afraid!

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

Still doesn't work for me. Using Windows' Mail on WinVista Home Premium SP-2. It simply doesn't gee-haw with Windows' mail or something on my system. I can't use Windows' Mail at all after installing Opera Browser which is totally unacceptable. I don't want to use Opera Mail & shouldn't have to use it just to be able to use Opera Browser. Windows' Mail works fine with other browsers, so there is apparently some kind of conflict with Opera Browser. Have reported the problem as a bug, but apparently Opera is not interested in correcting the problem so Opera Browser is worthless as far as I'm concerned & I can't recommend it to anyone. Would rate lower than a 1 if I could...

lksd

lksd reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

Awesome browser. If you need to read a reliable review Google it again and read reviews somewhere else. Beta News and also this file forum is Anti-Opera :)

So If you need an objective and true review, read it somewhere else :)

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

And very good it is too. It’s faster than Chrome, it’s more featued and more secure than Firefox, and it’s also rather cool..

It’s also the browser of choice by techies in the know, beating Firefox, Chrome and Safari for top place.

http://browsers.about.co...-browsers-winners_2.htm

Zenphic

Zenphic reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

Very fast browser, said to be the fastest at the moment. It still starts up slower than Chrome and seriously needs the super drag and drop support. Otherwise, a good all-round browser.

thartist

thartist reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

Well, in the end it is working perfectly for me and better than ever. Rushed yes, but still

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

just a fantastic browser. however, i'm a longtime user of opera (4-something, maybe) and firefox (back when it was phoenix), and it's always a ritual to run through the setup and get the prefs just the way i like them. i had a bit of an issue with 10.2 while javascript (on one site in particular) was broken, but that's fixed. and with flash blocker for opera, opera is my browser du jour 99 percent of the time. opera may be a little confusing to a new user, but is well worth the download/trial.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.50 on Mar 2, 2010

Bugs, plenty of them. I'm mostly seeing it in the GUI.
Can't seem to close the window tab (which lists all open windows) with mouse gesture.
Acid 3 is passed with 100% BUT the animation is jerky and slow, a regression from previous builds i think.
Also the search dialogue now has a "previous seaches" list which you can't get rid of (unless presumably you edit one of the .ini files), so don't go searching for all your pr0n there.... 'nuff said. This isn't ready, and Opera ought to know it.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v10.50 Build 3294 RC4 on Mar 2, 2010

we gonna see final in next few hours.
Now it's just quick polish. Great browser Really!

terryjackson

terryjackson reviewed v10.50 Build 3294 RC4 on Mar 1, 2010

They're gonna release another 20.000 RC's because there's still so many urgent bugs in this.

AzureSky

AzureSky reviewed v10.50 Build 3294 RC4 on Mar 1, 2010

out of date rc5 is out

DatabaseBen

DatabaseBen reviewed v10.50 Build 3294 RC4 on Mar 1, 2010

it works fine on my machine.

has a nice appearance and looks pretty good.

seems to have additional features not found in other browsers that would be helpful to college students and researchers.

however, it doesn't seem to have "import" favorites or bookmarks.

but there is on reason why i won't continue to try it out.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.50 Build 3294 RC4 on Mar 1, 2010

I don't know what other user are talking about, this RC is totally stable.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.50 Build 3294 RC4 on Mar 1, 2010

To each his/her own, but seems to me that Opera developers need to concentrate on putting out a good product that WORKS. The versions being put out lately simply are not usable for many reasons. I still can't get it to work on my system at all. I've tried everything I can think of without success. I use Windows' Mail & think Opera has a conflict with it, but there seems to lots of other issues also with the versions being released. Maybe they will get the kinks worked out in the near future.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.50 Build 3294 RC4 on Mar 1, 2010

I know Opera are trying to rush this thing out for the ballot screen, but seriously. This is ludicrous. This thing is simply not ready. No way is this RC quality. I had intermittent bugs trying to drag links to my desktop, unable to highlight certain text, GUI customization problems. The list goes on. I'll stick with the existing stable and maybe upgrade after a few point releases.

@Chocobito, It is pretty stable, it hasn't crashed on me, but stable is not the same as bug free (as far as that is possible, anyway). With this number of niggling bugs it doesn't approach the stellar quality of previous releases.

some guy

some guy reviewed v10.50 Build 3294 RC4 on Mar 1, 2010

good stuff runs fine on Windows 7 here, like the low profile of real estate it takes as well, renders a page I believe the best out of IE_FF and has the best spell checker , god knows I need one.. and this browser allows more control over that Hijack anti-virus 2010 page's that floats around so often..

betasun

betasun reviewed v10.50 Build 3275 Beta on Mar 1, 2010

For me every link or any address i want to go opens a save-open-cancel dialog !
i cannot go to any adress or link .i have the same problem with older versions .

tontito

tontito reviewed v10.50 Build 3275 Beta on Feb 28, 2010

Does this update solve authentication digest issues?

regards

AzureSky

AzureSky reviewed v10.50 Build 3275 Beta on Feb 27, 2010

anomoly, your a moron 1. with opera its opera:config, and opera:about

Im running this build, and it may have some querks but its beta, thats expected, and they normally fix anything major by the next build :)

10.50's current version is for me, rock solid, fast and dosnt require 50+mb worth of extensions to do what i want it to do.

new build is out
http://my.opera.com/desk...02/27/a-small-changelog
grab it there, BN/FF havent updated yet :)

CapZap

CapZap reviewed v10.50 Build 3275 Beta on Feb 27, 2010

Now we're cookin'! This version works well and lives up to expectations. My favorite browser of the past 11 years has reached a new level of excellence.

hedley

hedley reviewed v10.50 Build 3272 Beta 2 on Feb 25, 2010

It a really fastup since 10.00.

flosshatt

flosshatt reviewed v10.50 Build 3272 Beta 2 on Feb 24, 2010

Pretty solid and blazing fast.

darkwzrd1

darkwzrd1 reviewed v10.50 Build 3272 Beta 2 on Feb 24, 2010

It amazes me more and more how idiotic people (especially anomoly) can be.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.50 Build 3272 Beta 2 on Feb 24, 2010

This is not even close to a finished product. A Beta 2? Seriously?
If this is going to be the quality of the next release i'm going to give it a pass.
Seriously Opera WTF?

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v10.50 Build 3272 Beta 2 on Feb 24, 2010

@ anomoly Are you upgrading from a previous install or are you doing a clean install? I would do a clean install (removing all old installations first) as you may have a bad packet somewhere that is transferring from build to build.

For my part, I am very happy with Opera. It's a fast browser and it looks really nice. I am not experiencing any crashes, but I have had a couple of lockups (and this may have been a website issue and not a browser issue).

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v10.50 Build 3272 Beta 2 on Feb 24, 2010

Installed and without any change to the configuration it still displays pages incorrectly. Long lines that go all the way down to a ridiculously long page. I can handle minor bugs but this isn't minor.
Size is NOT an issue. I am typing this with FFportable v3.6 with 2 addons and it is 61mb. Worrying about being able to torrent on a network or pc that is not yours is moot.

And yes I did remove even registry traces beforehand. Running on a p4 with a 6200 agp card. So excuse my idiocy when others have no problem with rendering.
I like the security "options" which are very clear, especially in the opera tor browser. I say options because you have to spend a few minutes scrolling through the about:config. But, how exactly secure do you think this is if it handles your torrents, email, widgets, web server with upnp on by default-lol, my opera, my music etc ad nauseum on top of regular browsing??
Everyone is amazed but me.

thartist

thartist reviewed v10.50 Build 3271 Beta on Feb 24, 2010

Opera 10.50 is coming along soooooooooooo, soooooooooooo good!

AzureSky

AzureSky reviewed v10.50 Build 3271 Beta on Feb 24, 2010

works great here, I prefer the classic installer as it tends to work better for updating already installed versions then the MSI installer.

File forum has never shown me any problems with any version of opera....duno what to say there.

Oh and all of you who want opera to remove everything extra from the browser saying its bloat, look at the installer size for opera 10.50 vs the latist beta of FF......

ff beta for windows 12mb
opera 10.50 beta for windows 9.7mb

so you can have ff without extentions and with far less functionality at a larger download/install size, or opera, with functions you may not use at a smaller download size.....

I will take the ability to use the built in torrent client IF I NEED TO(like when im on a system whos owner dosnt know what torrents are or understand such things)

JethroB

JethroB reviewed v10.50 Build 3271 Beta on Feb 23, 2010

Great browser/email/nntp news suite program, but the msi installer version has more installation options http://snapshot.opera.co.../Opera_1050_3271_in.exe

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v10.50 Build 3271 Beta on Feb 23, 2010

Still won't display fileforum correctly as well as others. All i get is an infinitely long page which has long lines straight to the bottom. Will update if I can fix it. Weird cause at first it worked and then after I restarted it went back to refusing to see fileforum's content. I also noticed the encoding and encoding group options are completely blank for every site apparently. Options dialog AGAIN!
RELEASE A BROWSER NOT an ALL N ONE PileOS.
I will not use this again until it is out of beta if ever.

Techguy22

Techguy22 reviewed v10.50 Build 3271 Beta on Feb 23, 2010

This new version of Opera is totally awesome it's even faster than Chrome.

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v10.50 Build 3271 Beta on Feb 23, 2010

The 3271 beta release is a lot more stable. While I didn't get crashes with 3266, I actually suffered from the browser locking up - forcing me to close Opera entirely. This issue is thankfully not present in 3271.

I am very happy with Opera right now. Even though it is in beta, I have been using it as my primary browser. I don't use the mail, widgets or anything else it offers. But as a browser it is fast, very clean looking and has a large viewing window.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.50 Build 3271 Beta on Feb 23, 2010

It's really hard to defend something that simply just does not work very well and ALL of the version 10.5 releases have performed quite poorly. Sure the speed has increased but site compatibility (which had all but been eliminated) has reared it's head again. Also, there are just too many broken menu items and various other things that work fine in 10.10. Stability as well has never been an issue for me whether it was 9, 9.5, 10 final or any of it's alphas and betas until now.

Since we should be rating the product we have in front of us and not base ratings on what it has been or what it might be I can't give Opera it's usual 5*s

It really does look like they're rushing it out the door for this http://www.electronista....indows.7.browser.ballot because I've never encountered such problems as I have with the version 10.5 releases.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.50 Build 3271 Beta on Feb 23, 2010

Is anyone using WinVista SP-2 & Windows' Mail as their default e-mail program able to run Opera Browser without problems with their e-mail? When I load Opera Browser my Windows' Mail goes crazy & becomes unusable. It says I need to set up an account, but I don't want to use Opera Mail. I can't even leave Opera Browser loaded because when I click on e-mail in Mozilla Firefox, instead of opening a Windows' Mail window, Opera Browser opens. Soon as I uninstall Opera Brower, all is well once again. I want to give Opera Browser a trial run, but obviously can't do so until this issue is resolved. This issue has been reported to Opera developers, but they're apparently busy updating the Opera Beta versions. Thanks in advance for any tips and/or assistance.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v10.50 Build 3266 Beta on Feb 23, 2010

This version has options dialogue borked STILL. And it won't display THIS website properly. Back to ff. Too bad cause the edit site preferences and block content was one of the main reasons I ran it (incl the ability to edit and add search engines easily).
The one thing I will say is the lame download tab that you must constantly close is annoying as hell.
Screw unite, widgets, synking, bittorrent, webserver BS. Release a version without all the BLOAT. I'll bet money it actually works. I don't need my browser to check the time, play music, share files, handle torrents, check email, check the weather blah blah blah. none of that crap. And if you notice you will see that every google search is opera referenced. LAME
use this instead
http://www.google.com/search?q=%s
(apparently google has their nose stuffed up opera's a**) FU google!

CapZap

CapZap reviewed v10.50 Build 3266 Beta on Feb 22, 2010

This is the first Opera beta I recall that just isn't ready for prime time. I try each new release and then end up uninstalling. I can get it to look and act about like I want but one of my favorite web pages just doesn't display correctly.

I've used Opera as my only browser since 1998 and love 10.10, as I have all previous versions. I'm sure I'll like 10.5 when they get it a bit better settled. I can't believe all of the non-functional menu/customizing choices.

netean

netean reviewed v10.50 Build 3266 Beta on Feb 22, 2010

Opera is a browser that people generally love or hate. I'm in the LOVE category. Although I think V10.0 was a disappointment and I really don't see the need for Opera Widgets, Opera Unite etc..

I can say that V10.5 is good, it's very very good. It's fast, starts faster than anything other than Chrome, renders really well (a few quirks on some pages, but it's still beta and nothing that stops the page being used)

Opera Mail works for me (I use it in conjunction with Gmail and my ISPs IMAP server)

The new UI is a big improvement over v10. Lends a lot to Chrome (which in my mind is a good thing - you might think differently) It's UI is very responsive and works well in XP, WIndows 7 and Linux (looks nice in all 3)

The developer tools are superb (if you're a web developer)

Browser bookmark sync is great, works for my work, home, windows, linux machines.

Yet to be convinced by Opera Unite, and it does use a lot of ram (something that Opera dev team already know about) But v10.5 is quite simple a really good browser.

You might prefer Firefox and think it's better, you might thin Chrome or Safari as the best browsers there are.. I wouldn't argue, they all have their merits and downsides, Opera is no different.

I switch between Chrome and Opera (don't use Firefox anymore - although FF is a good browser, nothing wrong with the fox!) I like both Chrome and Opera equally. Opera having the slight advantage of having mail and mouse gestures built in (eg without an extension).

If you're happy with your current browser, stick with it. If not, try Opera 10.5 you may love it!

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.50 Build 3266 Beta on Feb 22, 2010

Same song-next verse. Still doesn't work with Windows Mail as the default e-mail program on WinVista. Normally use Firefox 3.6 with Windows' Mail, but that doesn't work after installing Opera Browser. Uninstall Opera browser & all is well again...

hedley

hedley reviewed v10.50 Build 3260 Beta on Feb 21, 2010

Most of inventions in browser was make by Opera dude

us3r

us3r reviewed v10.50 Build 3260 Beta on Feb 19, 2010

The GUI design and its functionality is still in dark ages. lol

nugro

nugro reviewed v10.50 Build 3260 Beta on Feb 19, 2010

I'll be satisfied if they can get Opera 10.5 Final to at least 10.1 level, The bug is numerous for the beta. Although I get no crash many of 10.1 usability is simply not present...

New (observable) feature can wait for another version, for now getting carakan and html5 out and back to 10.1 level of usability is more important imo.

(Honestly the "new" features don't excite me as much, I'd rather get User javascript manager than a gimmicky geo tagging)

@us3r
lol, quite the opposite. Did you wrongly installed Firefox and regarded it as Opera by any chance?

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v10.50 Build 3260 Beta on Feb 19, 2010

Great job.
Opera is pretty fast now in this version. The js changes are great. Speed is what we wantand we have it.
Plzzzz opera developers dont rush the new version!
Fix major bugs and focus on stability. Version 10.10 is working fine.
Follow this way for 10.50 as well

betasun

betasun reviewed v10.50 Build 3260 Beta on Feb 19, 2010

Where is the MAIN drop down menu toolbar ?for example to add favorites .

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v10.50 Build 3260 Beta on Feb 19, 2010

Simply don't like it. Opera 1010 is far better. Anyway, I'll be sticking with Chrome.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.50 Build 3260 Beta on Feb 19, 2010

All bugs from previous review still exist. Especially annoying is bookmark import being broken.
A couple of other things i noticed, letters in the search box for the BBC iPlayer appear black and there invisible, so there seems to be something wrong with the interaction with flash/air.
Second, if you zoom with the ctrl-scroll combination the new zoom slider doesn't change according to the current zoom level.
Considering it's a Beta i'll cut it some slack, but still, to me it looks more like an Alpha....Disappointing.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v10.50 Build 3260 Beta on Feb 18, 2010

WAAAy faster than the last 10.5 alpha, but the last tab of the options dialog is half unreadable and displays incorrectly on my p4.
I could sure wish for a simple profile backup with search, books, and general settings. Pain in the ** to always have to redo stuff. Let Me Keep My Own search settings between installs! F Google, ask & all that ****. It does have multiple user profile option on install which is cool.

Scoobs72

Scoobs72 reviewed v10.50 Build 3257 Beta on Feb 18, 2010

Opera 10.5+Windows mail works fine for me. Lightning fast on my system. Does everything I want out of the box without endless addons.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.50 Build 3257 Beta on Feb 18, 2010

Is anyone using Opera Browser with Windows Mail without having problems?

I have filed a bug report, but the conflict remains as it has been for a long time now. I used Opera Browser with Windows Mail in the past & it worked fine, but they sure don't gee-haw these days.

The only way I can resolve the problem is to uninstall Opera Browser, then all is well once again. Hopefully, Opera will fix the conflict some day unless they don't want Opera users to use Windows Mail for some reason - if that's the case, guess I won't be able to use Opera Browser because I have no plans to discontinue using Windows Mail.

Thus a rating of 2 for Opera Browser since it conflicts with Windows Mail which makes it unusable for me.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v10.50 Build 3257 Beta on Feb 18, 2010

+ Speed and featureset, lack of bloat
- lack of plugin architecture, ad and element blocking (it's there but it doesn't work nearly as well as Firefox. I'm sick of complaining about this, why can't Opera meet the other browsers on this ability? I want greasemonkey scripts, plug-ins, easy plug-in install capability, and no .ini file modification every new browser load.

It is such a great browser otherwise.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.50 Build 3257 Beta on Feb 18, 2010

Well this is the lowest rating I have ever given this wonderful browser and for good reason. I'm sure when its final is released it will be 5 stars but as it stands now stability is just too much of an issue. Right Click>Go to web address has not worked in any build and this build has a corrupted part of the preferences panel.

This is rather unusual for Opera in my experience with it and they have been pumping out builds faster than I seem to remember them doing. Hope that their quality isn't being sacrificed by rushing it out the door for this http://www.electronista....indows.7.browser.ballot/

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 18, 2010

Quite a few problems with customizing the GUI. Can't seem to remove multiple buttons from toolbars in series. Also cannot seem to remove the search box in the address bar.
Bookmarks file format has changed and doesn't seem to be able to import the old boomarks.adr format.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v10.10 on Feb 14, 2010

Opera, 300 users cant be wrong.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 12, 2010

This is still a Beta 1 release - there are kinks and bugs to be sorted out but I the speed is fantastic, and the functionality as well. Saves a lot of space on the screen, and looks amazing.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 12, 2010

It's not perfect yet but as beta it was quite a surprise!
At present time, it seems just as fast as Google Chrome 5.

anon2402

anon2402 reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 12, 2010

Where can I get windows 10.5?

stevvie

stevvie reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 12, 2010

This browser is sure faster than IE and firefox. But that speed comes at a price, some pages just don't display properly and some just display as garbage. Most display ok but a few are just unreadable. So the bottom line is do you want to save a few seconds a year and then have to start IE or Firefox for the few pages that still don't work or do you want to use a browser that just displays the pages (IE, Firefox) but is a little slower or do you want a slightly faster browser that struggles with some pages (opera) ?

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 12, 2010

i was getting a little perturbed with version 10 when a couple of my javascript heavy sites wouldn't work anymore, and firefox had the adblock & flashblock add-ons. with the discovery of flashblocker and javascript is working again, opera is back in place as my numero uno browser.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 11, 2010

@SoftwareTester: you can change the skin whenever you want.
@Kelson64: use middle click + link (if you don't have a middle buttom mouse press right and left at the same time)

SoftwareTester

SoftwareTester reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 11, 2010

need new skin for 10.50. the personal bookmark bar color is off. also the tab bar when it move from top to left

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 11, 2010

There are a lot of things to like about Opera. The default UI is easily the nicest looking of any browser. I like the way you can move the different tookbars to any part of the screen. The "personal" bar is great (and the "glowing" text is a nice touch). There's plenty of skins available, and I've only run into a couple that don't work with this beta. The speed dial feature is very nice, and it's a huge plus that it is built in.

Websites load really fast in Opera, and the text is smoother and sharper than both Firefox and Chrome.

A really dumb question that has me baffled. Is there any way to hit CTL + LINK to open up a new tab in Opera? If there is, I can't seem to figure it out.

I am not a fan of add-ons . . . though I would love to see some popular ones like Cooliris made to work with Opera. My main wishes for my browser is that it has fast load times, is stable, is easy to use and is visually pleasing. Opera delivers.

JustForMyMemory

JustForMyMemory reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 11, 2010

i know this is great-browser like somebody said, but it and chrome lack of something that I can only satisfy in firefox.

i guess it is stability and reliability.

v4npro

v4npro reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 11, 2010

Really enjoy using the new Opera, 10.5. A must with Ad Fliter list.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.50 Beta 1 on Feb 11, 2010

@Phat Esther: You know what, I test multiple link save in Opera and guest what. IS WORKING FINE MORON, you are the not prove the new build because its working fine. Learn to use it.

lucaluca

lucaluca reviewed v10.50 Build 3241 Pre-Alpha on Feb 11, 2010

It is a very fast (great improvement over version 10.10) web browser. I've been using it for years now (opera not version 10.5;), usually as a alternate app to firefox, now I'm alternating between opera and chrome. Although many reviewers say it's faster than chrome, on my system chrome still rockz. I prefer chrome's fast start up time, but I love (for years now) opera's mouse gestures (& keyboard shortcuts too - you can browse the site's links with your arrow keys...)
In my independent tests (my 10 favorite sites load times and browser's start up times) opera has always been a winner. Few bugs here and there, (very few) sites not rendering correctly, apart from that grrreat browser.
I recommend it wholeheartedly. (I think it's a word)

umi81

umi81 reviewed v10.50 Build 3241 Pre-Alpha on Feb 11, 2010

Very good browser, fast and usable all the way.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.50 Build 3241 Pre-Alpha on Feb 10, 2010

Unlike the version 10 alphas, these 10.5's have been much less stable. The speed improvement is obvious and there are some slick graphical improvements but it certainly isn't at the stage where you can use it a your main browser. I do have complete faith though that, as always, the finished product will be light years ahead of the competition.

@Kelson64
Buttons, scrollbars and info boxes are drawn on pages according to the skin you are using so it's not a bug.

and as for an ad block add-on, well it's pointless. http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/opera/

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v10.50 Build 3241 Pre-Alpha on Feb 10, 2010

Opera is quickly becoming my browser of choice. These last few builds have been very stable for me, and many of the small bugs I have reported have already been repaired.

The only issue I am having with this most current build is a minor rendering issue. It's a small thing, but it stands out for me. The best way to describe the issue is that Opera seems to take a harder line when rendering boxes within web pages.

Here's an example, and you can test this yourself with other browsers. Go to this family entertainment site http://entertainment.24-hrnetwork.com Look at the box for "Latest Posts". In Opera, the corners of this box are sharp and pointed - but in other browsers the edges of this box are rounded. It's a small thing, but it IS odd that Opera can't render like the other browsers can. (I have tested this with Firefox, Safari and Chrome).

Please tell me if I am missing a setting in Opera that causes this to happen. As it is, I have filed a bug report on this issue. Everything else is working fine . . and I am not suffering the crashes I experienced with other builds.

Perhaps my favorite thing about Opera is its nice, big viewing window. The new UI is not cluttered at all, and Opera now rivals Safari for the best viewing window. It's a small thing for some - but for me, it means I don't have to scroll as much to read a web page. At my age . . that is something to be appreciated!

nms04

nms04 reviewed v10.50 Build 3241 Pre-Alpha on Feb 10, 2010

@some guy there is something like adblock+ for opera ... you've got to use it only 1 time, and u wont see any ad's again
http://fileforum.betanew...-For-Opera/1252663378/1

some guy

some guy reviewed v10.50 Build 3241 Pre-Alpha on Feb 10, 2010

this browser renders all pages that some other wont render or fail at at, Just needs more plugins like ADBLOCK++++ do you hear me Opera ? over...

butthead

butthead reviewed v10.50 Build 3236 Pre-Alpha on Feb 9, 2010

@Tallpaultn: what is the exact error message you are getting? Do you get the same error with a clean install? See an example of how to get a clean install here: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/888/ you can report the bug here: https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/

@Phat Esther: current workaround is to use the "save to download folder" option in the Links panel Save dropdown menu, then manually make dirs for various files.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.50 Build 3236 Pre-Alpha on Feb 9, 2010

Would love to give the Opera Browser a trial run; however I use Windows' Mail & there's still some kind of conflict between all versions of Opera Browser & Windows' Mail. Used Opera Browser before with Windows' Mail & it worked just fine, but not anymore. When I click on Windows' Mail to send a message in Mozilla Firefox 3.6, instead of opening a Windows' Mail window so I can send the message, Opera Browser opens & says a necessary file is not available. Once I uninstall Opera Browser, all is well once again. I've tried the different versions of Opera Browser with the same results in each instance. Hopefully Opera will address this conflict in the near future so I can once again use the Opera Browser.

@butthead
Thanks for the information. I tried a clean install, but that doesn't correct the problem. I'll file a bug report.

oRoFLash

oRoFLash reviewed v10.10 on Feb 9, 2010

Simply the best browser: The most fast, secure and intuitive. Mozilla Firefox is a good browser, but Opera rules!
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Opera es el mejor navegador. Es el mas rapido y seguro, aunque Firefox es bueno, Opera es superior!

cwalker

cwalker reviewed v10.50 Build 3234 Pre-Alpha on Feb 8, 2010

10.5 is definitely faster than my firefox installation. They got the spell check working again. I guess java is working with this one, but I don't use it. Hadn't had a crash since a couple of releases ago. I'd say this is about ready to go beta now...

As far as whatever Esther is rambling about... Sounds like something a 3rd party prog could do. There might even be a userscript somewhere. Check the userscript threads at the opera forums.

AzureSky

AzureSky reviewed v10.50 Build 3234 Pre-Alpha on Feb 8, 2010

Very fast, Has been stable since i updated to this current build, And yes, I use this as my main browser.

Note: if you want to save a whole webpage, why not just save it as an mht file rather then saving it as a bunch of links?

mikes1616

mikes1616 reviewed v10.50 Build 3234 Pre-Alpha on Feb 8, 2010

Would love to try this but I am so tied to LastPass I cannot. The bookmarklets are not enough. Giving a neutral rating to indicate my disappointment of a proper SDK.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.50 Build 3218 Pre-Alpha on Feb 7, 2010

I documented this for last 2 years at least dozens of times compare 9.27.8841 vs. latest actually pre anaplha beta Flutecamp 10.XY
Multiple Link Save test

- 1. - go to any site tha containa at least 100 link
like car0001.jpg to car0100.jpg
select 100 link on F4 + links panel, click ctrl+Left Mouse Button on car0001.jpg and s.h.i.f.t. +LMB on car0100.jpg that means you select 100 links.
- 2. - click on to selected part with Right Mouse Button ang go to save linked content as... and click on it LMB and after Opera give you 100 save windows
- 3. - save the first 10 links to folder drive:\cars\jpg\00\... folder
- 4. - save the second 10 links to folder drive:\cars\jpg\10\... folder
............ save 20 to 90 i think you know whics folder name
- 5. - save the last 10 links to drive:\cars\jpg\90\... folder

thats it select 100 links into 10 different folder at same time within some seconds on 9.27.8841

and now you turn try save 100 links with any latest opera version in the last 2 years
if you like race we just save 100000 link to 1000 different folder at same time
hahaha
i saved this with 9.27.8841 within few minutes but you save with any latest o10 or after 9.5 beta the whole of your life time

I send this bug to opera at least all times all different version but evrybody say working working without any testing
not working
nobaody compare 9.27.8841 or any older versions with latest Flutecamp because nobody cant hear the truth
the truth is Multiple Link Save not working after 9.27.8841
this is the truth
all other lie

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v10.50 Build 3218 Pre-Alpha on Feb 3, 2010

Profile creator gave me MAJOR issues with updating as I always run the second profile shortcut to enable multiple instances.
HIGHLY recommend to update from the stabile release as just had a website crash my pc (out of memory with NO page file atm) because of a javascript/plugin error. That was not the first opera webpage rendering issue, but was the first issue (in 10101893) to cause me to hard reset the pc. Main menu is now in a compacted state (toolbar drop down button) which is cool but the background it uses is lame. Looks like the opera icon but cut in half.
oh yeah. That webpage works fine now

butthead

butthead reviewed v10.50 Build 3218 Pre-Alpha on Feb 3, 2010

Phat Esther, can you describe how to reproduce your "Multiple link save" bug?

shrek412

shrek412 reviewed v10.50 Build 3218 Pre-Alpha on Feb 2, 2010

these are some major buggs i found in built in opera email

1. spell checker is not working
2. cannot drag and drop email attachments

and pls include google gear support soon :)

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v10.50 Build 3218 Pre-Alpha on Feb 1, 2010

Loaded Opera, but can't use it because it has a major conflict with Windows' Mail which I use for E-Mail. When I have Opera loaded, I am unable to use Window's mail - Opera Brower screen starts blinking & goes crazy.

Also with Opera Browser installed, when I click on Windows' Mail to send a link in Mozilla Firefox 3.6, Opera Browser opens instead of a Windows' Mail screen. When I uninstall Opera Browser, all is well once again.

Opera Browser seems to work ok otherwise, so hopefully this conflict will be resolved in a future Opera Browser update.

I'm using WinVista Home Premium SP 2 on a Duo-Core 2.4 Dell Computer...

shrekorfiona

shrekorfiona reviewed v10.50 Build 3218 Pre-Alpha on Feb 1, 2010

The Download link doesn't work.

pdail

pdail reviewed v10.50 Build 3218 Pre-Alpha on Feb 1, 2010

Well, it would seem, they are moving right along with these Builds. I have been using this Build all day, and had only one crash. Thats a very good improvement, over the last Build. So, they are getting there. I have been using these Alpha Builds since they started. I like where this is going. The speed is a very good improvement.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.50 Build 3206 Pre-Alpha on Jan 29, 2010

The Crash Machine.

I think Flutecamp developer team want to too high speed, I tested Chrome5 much slower but incredible stable. On 1 hour test without crash.
Typically basic problem i think.
Programmers want speed up instead repair the last 3 years not repaired tons of bugs + many function integrated without user choice disable option, but can do in FF or MX.
Opera 3.6 was very little but evrything to do know browser everybody loved it, but after want growing up like nero the good cd writer to the big crashnothing.
Must go back to 9.27. 8841 and reproject new way insted bulls*** 9.5 beta.
The flutecamp problem it seems same like winamp 2.9x or 5.0x change.
i think Chrome the future and the opensource.

This was my last note to this project after 10 years or more.
For special (after deleted it) functions i use sometimes 3.6 or 7.11 and naturelly the legendary 9.27.8841 for Multiple link save.
I pay 1.000.000 $ for who faster with o10 than me and my 9.27

HA HA
SoftwareTester
Opera is the best browser for open multi website at one, and have alot of option for the interface.

This is an trollbeta review and he/she/it give 5star

unbelievable

SoftwareTester

SoftwareTester reviewed v10.50 Build 3206 Pre-Alpha on Jan 26, 2010

Opera is the best browser for open multi website at one, and have alot of option for the interface.

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v10.50 Build 3206 Pre-Alpha on Jan 25, 2010

I loved Opera since it was shareware. Most innovations in browsers were introduced by Opera. It has all the functionality than Firefox and 20 third party extensions I need to feel comfortable on it. As all the functionality is already built-in, there are far less compatibility problems than with Firefox.
Standards 100% compliance, the best security score, I still do not know why it does not has a larger market share. I think their problem is marketing.
Version 10.5 is going to be huge in terms of JavaScript speed boost and other minor things reviewers always complain about.
Bitterman, do you really consider IE an option? You should avoid writing reviews... The only thing IE should be used for is to download Opera, Firefox or your browser of preference and to see some poisoned WM streaming content after everything else failed

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v10.50 Build 3206 Pre-Alpha on Jan 25, 2010

One of the biggest issues I have had with previous builds has been fixes in 10.50 Build 3206. I can now use Opera on my own websites, where I could not with previous builds.

Out of sheer curiousity, has anyone tested the "look" of websites in Opera against the other browsers? I've noticed that most websites in Opera look a lot sharper in Opera than they do in Chrome or Firefox. I was wondering if this is just me or is anyone else experiencing the same? I think it has to do with Opera handling font smoothing better than Chrome or Firefox (but not quite as well as Safari).

cwalker

cwalker reviewed v10.50 Build 3206 Pre-Alpha on Jan 25, 2010

@bitterman: I beg to differ. Why use those other browsers when you have Opera?

But seriously, I'm loving the 10.5 pre-alphas. It has some known issues that are being worked on. But betas (and alphas) are for testing right?

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.50 Build 3206 Pre-Alpha on Jan 25, 2010

WHY?...there is no need for this browser anymore! There are much better alternatives out there i.e., FireFox, Chrome and even IE8. Maybe they should just focus on phone apps now because that is all this browser is good for.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v10.50 Build 3202 Pre-Alpha on Jan 22, 2010

@Phat Esther wtf?? i've tested this latest build on all the website u mentioned in your post and i had NO PROBLEM AT ALL!!!

perfect as always! btw this is an alpha release, and it simply blows the new ff stable release (3.6) far awaaaaaaaaaaaay

SuzzyWoozy

SuzzyWoozy reviewed v10.50 Build 3202 Pre-Alpha on Jan 22, 2010

this message was posted using 10.50 Build 3202 Pre-Alpha:

- NOT crashing
- NOT freezing
- copy&paste working copy&paste working copy&paste working copy&paste working (also in adress bar)
- Google- WORKING
- Youtube - WORKING
- FileForum - WORKING

5 stars from another troll running it ;)

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.50 Build 3202 Pre-Alpha on Jan 21, 2010

Crash.
After Crash, Freeze.
After Freeze, Crash.
And Crash again, and again, and again.
Pre-Alpha FluteCamp 10.5 is the death of swan, slow but sure.
Crash everything, just the mouse, the save, the select, everything not working.
Google, Youtube, 2.0, all common sites Crash.

The latest is what?
Not working the click. hahaha
And not end,
not working the type too
i dont see what i typing
UNBELIEVABLE

oh forgotten
copy+paste not working too

i think
typically trolls not tested anything just drop 5 star for what?

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.50 Build 3202 Pre-Alpha on Jan 21, 2010

5/5 - for awesome development, also nice boost-up in speed and skin ;)

but still I prefer Firefox for addons ;P

aokromes

aokromes reviewed v10.50 Build 3202 Pre-Alpha on Jan 21, 2010

I hope this build is more stable than 3199 :) i must say that 3186 was quite stable to be pre-alpha :)
For the ppl crying about bugs and crashes: It's a pre-alpha what do you think you go to found?
The troll here is you Phat Esther, i only had one crash since yesterday and i browse A LOT.

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v10.50 Build 3199 Pre-Alpha on Jan 19, 2010

What I look for in a web browser is basic functionality. This pre-alpha for Opera shows a lot of promise in that regard. However, there is one thing that is broken, that sadly renders this software useless to me at this point. I run several websites and forums using IP Board 3. For some reason, when using this version of the alpha, it is impossible to make posts in the forums. The issue is with "scrolling" - which is something one must do with lengthy posts. When scrolling, the lines become jumbled and there are graphic anomalies. I have tested this with other sites as well, and have replicated this issue more often than not. I did send a report in to Opera about this issue as well.

I understand that this is a pre-alpha - but I have had problems with Opera in my forums in the past. I did send reports in on these issues, and they were remedied. However, until this particular issue is fixed, I really have no need for this pre-alpha of Opera.

There are a couple of other minor functional issues I came across, but they are very minor, and are things that I am confident will be fixed in upcoming releases.

That being said, this really is a wonderful browser, and I am looking forward to seeing it grow and develop.

nugro

nugro reviewed v10.50 Build 3199 Pre-Alpha on Jan 19, 2010

Aaaand this! Fixed my last complaint :D Mouse gestures and ctrl+tab works great now, I'm ready to use this full time and see if there will be any crash.

Oh and fullscreen currently broke too. No big deal.

Edit : Derp! found game-breaking bug, copy link address will crash Opera immediately. This made it pretty much unusable, oh well will wait for later build to test.

Pomacat

Pomacat reviewed v10.50 Build 3199 Pre-Alpha on Jan 18, 2010

This version does seem fast maybe faster then Chrome. I have not had a crash yet and my mouse gestures seem to work just fine. I am likeing this new and improved Opera.

cwalker

cwalker reviewed v10.50 Build 3199 Pre-Alpha on Jan 18, 2010

Again, this is a pre-alpha version and is very unstable. Don't use unless you're a die-hard Opera fan..

nugro

nugro reviewed v10.50 Build 3186 Pre-Alpha on Jan 8, 2010

Much more stable than the last pre-alpha, They can even consider this alpha :)
BUT :
- Mouse gesture is still borked, though much better than the last one, lowering threshold help too.
- No Spellcheck
-ctrl+tab or right click+wheel scroll don't immediately change tab, just bringing the tab menu, I hate this, it's inefficient.

And.... Uh... Haha, I'm running out of excuse not to run this pre-alpha >:D
C'mon team Opera, fix the damn mouse gesture already. ;P

maddy143ded

maddy143ded reviewed v10.10 on Jan 5, 2010

some reviewer has said that they like FF better because it is light weight and is only a browser. u can add plug-ins for anything else u might want. well even though Firefox being only a browser it is nearly 8 Mb in size and when in use takes nearly 50 - 70 Mb for a single Tab ??? I thought light weight means actually being light or am i mistaken?
opera is only 9-10 Mb and with 10-12 Tabs open takes only 170 - 200 Mb of my memory space. now thats lightweight. also processor usage is nearly negligible. (2-5% vs Firefox's 20 - 30%)
and if u dont like the new additions like Unite / turbo then u can just keep them turned off. like i do. and Link is actually innovative and has been taken up by nearly all the other browser just as Tabbed browsing was taken up by others.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v10.50 Build 3186 Pre-Alpha on Jan 5, 2010

no problems here no crashes.... all web sites load fine

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.50 Build 3186 Pre-Alpha on Jan 4, 2010

OK, this is good for a pre-alpha, but seriously can people tell if it is faster? I sure as hell can't. Unless you're running benchmarks i just don't see how one can tell the difference between a page loading in a 1/10 of second or a page loading in 1/20 of a second.
The GUI is an improvement in terms of getting rid of the menu bar by default. But that is already possible with the current stable version 10.10 (File -> Show Menu Bar), so i'm not quite sure why people are so excited it on other forums.

@Phat Esther, posting a 1 star because it's a pre-alpha when it clearly states it as such has got to be the most retarded thing you've done yet. Well done. You've surpassed yourself.

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v10.50 Build 3186 Pre-Alpha on Jan 4, 2010

As others have mentioned, this pre-alpha shows great enhancements in speed and the UI. I have seen quite a few crashes on specific websites, which is to be expected.

One thing I am not sure I like is the removal of the panel, specifically for downloads. if the panel still exists, this is not much of a problem, but I haven't had much chance to research it. Edit: I now notice the panels button in the address bar (moved from tab bar), which I immediately thought was the rewind/fast forward command.

trevithick, I do want to mention that Opera always suggest to install their Alpha/Beta's as new installations, rather than upgrades (unless testing the upgrading) and I have found this to be true. At one time, I found upgrading to cause strange behavior that is not seen in fresh installs. Once I began using fresh installs, I have not had many issues.

anonymouscowturd, no, I would not expect people to notice a difference between 1/10 and 1/20th of a second in rendering a website, but when pages routinely take multiple seconds (3-5s) to load entirely, you can see a difference.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.50 Build 3186 Pre-Alpha on Jan 4, 2010

anonymouscowturd
I tested this release 3 days ago
lot of bugs
tons of
just freeze
just crash
i say one star Early pre-alpha

oh forgotten
how nice flashing buttons
oh ah
evrybody happy

cwalker

cwalker reviewed v10.50 Build 3186 Pre-Alpha on Jan 4, 2010

I'm not sure why this version is even posted here, because really this is just a demo of the upcoming rendering and java-script engines that Opera is working on. It's pre-alpha so you have to expect crashes. Even on the Opera Desktop team blog, they warn to expect some instability.

With that being said, I have been using the pre-alphas, 3172 and 3186, exclusively and have to say that I'm really impressed. It is way faster than any of the previous 10.xx versions and might be faster than both firefox and chrome.

If you want a more stable version, wait for a beta or a final build.

exit

exit reviewed v10.50 Build 3186 Pre-Alpha on Jan 4, 2010

This build will pass Acid 3 =100

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.50 Build 3186 Pre-Alpha on Jan 4, 2010

The new build appears to have fixed a couple of problems I reported earlier with right-click options, but most are still greyed out or just don't work.

AutoBot

AutoBot reviewed v10.50 Build 3186 Pre-Alpha on Jan 4, 2010

I truly cannot believe you guys would complain this much about a free browser that's pre-alpha, it is indeed much faster than any previous incarnation of Opera and feels about 20 percent faster than the latest Chrome development builds. Bookmark sync works, Unite is greyed out because it isn't included....geez do you even read release notes.

In a few months I have a feeling this browser will surpass all expectations of current Opera users, give it time. Maybe the developers should not have released it so early, but I am digging the speed and appreciate that they have. I have not had a single crash on my wifes netbook, typical Atom based device with XP home edition.

I would give it three stars, but I'm giving five to try and offset the unnecessary one star ratings.

trevithick

trevithick reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 26, 2009

I've been a beta tester for many years and understand the possible negative consequences of not for prime time software. It is not only exciting to see the latest developments and get your hands on them early, it provides the opportunity to help make constructive analysis for the developers.

Alpha is a different story, and I almost always steer away from it, because alpha to me says that the interface doesn't function properly, it is prone to crash, and can take down your system on a bad day. That's why we back up.

I've never knowingly (Windows ME!) run pre-alpha software until I reading the rave review of Pre-Alpha Opera 10.5. First, let me say that my browser of choice is Opera, and I had been successfully using the latest production version 10.10 since it was released. I truly enjoy Opera's feel, look, usability, synchronizing, and unite capabilities.

I backed up my Opera files and while holding my breath installed Opera 10.5. I'm glad I backed up everything because now I need to try to revert to 10.10.

Pre-Alpha 10.5 crashes nearly as fast as it can ask me if I want to submit the error report. I think I've had it up for maybe five minutes at one time. It killed Unite. The checkbox is there, but unusable. I can't run it from any of the menus. It's simply dead. Synchronization says it's working, but the icon is greyed out giving the impression that it isn't functioning. Bookmark duplicate removal results in server errors. Yes, I know it's only in beta.

I've hunted all over the Opera site to look for possible daily builds that might fix the problems to no avail.

I'm going to uninstall Opera Pre-Alpha 10.5 and hopefully not loose all my settings, something Opera does a lousy job of migrating, and then re-install version 10.10.

Once again I'm reminded of why I stay away from Alphas. I look forward to a beta release that at least gives support to the wonderful options that help maky Opera the great browser it is.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 24, 2009

Not forget evrybody this is an pre - ALPHA not all funct working just the bugs, all of unrepaired old and the tons of the new
but dont forget wich-alpha rel.
I dont feel more speed than O10
on graphicon i see 400% but feel only 4%
meanwhile betanews deleted the compare graphicon hahaha
evry second site not working
we know just prealpha we know it
but youtube and google map totally false or not do anything at all
is this the future?
yes
this is
an very buggy unusable opera that not use nobody just 2%

Opera lost the browser war
Opera is looser
because not repair any bug
eg the working multiple link save version is 9.27.8841
after 2 years no repair
must save all links individually tu custom folder
after 1 years not repair the immediatelly crash in advanced delete in download list
and many more
and many new
opera make sports of new bugfunctions
opera is the buggiest browser on earth
we dont forget prealpha
but the final version come out more bug than prealpha

opera after with 9.50 beta totally go the wrong way
I give this version pre 2 star

BelgianWaffle

BelgianWaffle reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 24, 2009

Very useable for a pre-alpha to be... and super fast, smooth and cuztomizeable. There are several things not working with this release, but hey, dont forget it has not even reached Alpha stages yet...

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 24, 2009

Couldn't really test it as the main toolbar, options dialog included, was completely MIA

prs

prs reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 23, 2009

This is a pre-alpha. It isn't even supposed to be this fast. Yet it blows everything else out of the water.

darkwzrd1

darkwzrd1 reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 23, 2009

@alanpalmer, everything you said that didn't work, WORKS! Next time don't write a review unless you know what your talking about. In general it states its a "Pre-Alpha" release I don't understand why people are complaining, of coarse their are bugs. This version was released to show off and allow testing of Opera's new interface, java-script engine (Carakan) and graphics library (Vega).

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 23, 2009

4,75 - speed boost is impressive !!!
many bugs, but nvm its Pre-Alpha ;)

Finally Opera dev take seriously development and do some good job, not only adding unuseful features for most of ppl like previously...

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 23, 2009

Several right-click options either don't work or are greyed out for no apparent reason, such as "open in new tab", "copy link address", and so on. It seems faster than the previous build of 10.20 that I was using earlier, and I quite like the new interface.

shrek412

shrek412 reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 23, 2009

Google Reader is not working for me in Opera 10.5

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 23, 2009

Brilliant!

This, like the 10.0 alpha's, is surprisingly stable. That's not to say that there aren't any bugs though. I've come across some graphical issues and spell check doesn't appear to be working but those are minor as it has yet to crash after using it all day. What it has done is blazed to every page I've gone to, the speed improvements are quite obvious and I've yet to come across a page not render properly either. There are also some nice little touches such as a slick little tab animation and an improved search box dropdown menu.

I can't wait to see what the finished product will look like!!

shallot

shallot reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 22, 2009

For an Alpha this is an outstanding release. Have used for over 12 hrs now and it's been mind boggling...hell, it's faster than Chrome...I just couldn't believe it...One gets everything with Opera without any additional plug-ins or extensions just make it useful like FF. FF has a lot to fear ....I am not going back to FF...

v4npro

v4npro reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 22, 2009

Very impressed. It's very fast, great features/design, everyone should give it a try but remember it's pre-alpha.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 22, 2009

perfect release! the new interface and the speed improvements are simply amazing!! private tabs are great to, but i never used them in other browsers, so i don't realy care about it xD
i've been using 10.5 for about 5 hours now, and i did not have any problems so far!

Scoobs72

Scoobs72 reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 22, 2009

For a pre-alpha this is amazing. The speed is incredible, it blows away Firefox. Might have to switch back from Firefox to Opera based on this.

nugro

nugro reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 22, 2009

This. Blow any other UI that I've seen and yet to be.

Very promising, still a lots of bugs as expected of pre-alpha quality "sneak peek" release, I can't wait for the beta and final build!

martinib

martinib reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 22, 2009

The Best Browser. Now with Private Browsing and the Growl notifications is getting unbeatable. The new address bar is awesome too.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha on Dec 22, 2009

Wow, the new interface is simply mindblowing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

draelail

draelail reviewed v10.20 Build 1895 Alpha on Dec 3, 2009

This is one of the best browsers you can use. I do not know where the previous user read imap will be limited, but anyway I do reccommend Opera for browsing, not for email.
Talking about browsing it is faster than anything I saw and safer than any other browser, if that is not enough, it has tons of features: Gestures, blocking system and speed dial worth. Did I mention it is faster than any other browser even when all the functionality buit in? 6/5

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.20 Build 1895 Alpha on Dec 3, 2009

Its funny that people found Opera bloated because its a fact that FF that is useless without extension and other are much bloated that Opera.

uestudae

uestudae reviewed v10.20 Build 1895 Alpha on Dec 3, 2009

In Opera I have all the feature with no needs of extension full of bugs.

ciohaeso

ciohaeso reviewed v10.20 Build 1895 Alpha on Dec 3, 2009

Opera never deserve less that 5 star

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.20 Build 1895 Alpha on Dec 3, 2009

No need any other browser, don't listen that fanboyish comments.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.20 Build 1895 Alpha on Dec 2, 2009

As usual a very stable release.

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v10.20 Build 1895 Alpha on Dec 2, 2009

I think a streamlined version (maybe Opera Lite) would be great ... I'd even bet more people would be downloading it rather a bloated version. The first versions nearly 10 years ago were soo fast compared to I.E. and Netscape.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.20 Build 1895 Alpha on Dec 1, 2009

Focusing on GADGETS ? Maddens ?
Why not implanted finally new faster engine Crackan to speeding browser, because Opera is now faster only from IE...

3/4 instead of 4/5...

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.20 Build 1895 Alpha on Dec 1, 2009

next bughilled Flutecamp alpha for 1% netsurfers paradise with hole in the middle logo
ah yes almost forgotten
install stopped with file access error and exit
hahaha

hap8192739

hap8192739 reviewed v10.20 Build 1895 Alpha on Nov 30, 2009

I second that

nugro

nugro reviewed v10.20 Build 1895 Alpha on Nov 30, 2009

I like Opera, I really do. but they're focusing on something irrelevant from their core. I don't even use windows gadgets, why do I want a BROWSER to do some trivial random things in my desktop?
If they want to extend the browser, do it right like Firefox; add functionality to BROWSE the net.

Please devs, focus on what you do best, not becoming a Jack of all trades, master of none.

*sigh*

gdoodle

gdoodle reviewed v10.10 on Nov 28, 2009

Opera is just great. If they had the money of Google, they might advertise more. Its not perfect. I like it though. My request is to change the wand to double click to fill fields, like all other browsers. O well.. FTW

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v10.10 on Nov 27, 2009

Each edition keeps getting better and Unite is for those who have to share files without opening up a port or setting up an FTP, this is far safer and easier way and your data is protected. You don't have to create a torrent either. I do feel Opera is trying to stick to its suite policy, some Widgets are useful like Multi Weather, unit converter, world time etc. but I feel now Opera should go back to grass roots and concentrate of what made them good in first place, that is speed and security.

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v10.10 on Nov 26, 2009

I always liked Opera as browser but I'm not interested in widgets, "opera links" and even less in "unite".
Since this version my firewall is constantly asking for multicast to 239.0.0.x and 224.0.0.x (even with all those new additional features disabled)
I wish there was a light version of Opera, just the browser. It would be perfect, not all users want an all in one solution.
My respect to Firefox developers in this regard that delivers a solid browser and allow the user to add the "rest" as plugins only if they really need it.
I'm back to v.9.64 (v10.0 is full of bugs) and also back to FF as default browser.

nugro

nugro reviewed v10.10 on Nov 26, 2009

Betanews update the screenshot please! it's 2 generation old already.

The always reliable browser, speed? Can't find any noticable different between this and FF, if you do time to update that dial-up connection.

us3r

us3r reviewed v10.10 on Nov 26, 2009

Omg, even Firefox is faster that this build of Opera. And there are some glitches with Acid 2 and Acid 3 tests with this build.
Thanks, but no thanks.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.10 on Nov 25, 2009

@ anomoly - "Extensions weaken a browser's security"
NoScript, NoFlash, AdBlock Plus, Greasemonkey... I dont think so Tim... ;)

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v10.10 on Nov 24, 2009

Extensions weaken a browser's security, not to mention the fact that they use more resources & waist your time when you 'need' one. Screw 'em. I tried unite and was not duly impressed (could've been my slow pc??) so I just delete that folder.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.10 on Nov 24, 2009

Seems to be much slower at starting up than the last few releases (probably Unite service causing this).
Other than that not much different. Seriously though, i like that fact that Opera lead the pack on innovation but it really is about time they took a leaf out of others' books, like extensions. Whilst i know Opera is the best out of the box and is the equivalent to Firefox + 10s of addons, it still doesn't get around the fact that there are just some things done more easily in Firefox, much as i hate to admit it.
Still taking this on it's own merits and for what it is, it is still an excellent browser.

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Nov 18, 2009

Even chrome gets it and now supports extensions, heck even apple are planning on adding it to safari. Sorry opera, down even further in the usage statistics you go as you seem to think you know what is best for your users.

http://www.chromeextensions.org/

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.10 Build 1874 Beta on Nov 15, 2009

@ Phat Esther - I lold

thartist

thartist reviewed v10.10 Build 1874 Beta on Nov 14, 2009

Superlative software as usual, but the rendering engine still has incompatibilities and crap with many sites and some kinds of controls, as usual.
I wonder if they could ever dump their stupid broken engine and grab Webkit which is so fast and good at Java, and forget about the problematic Presto. Or otherwise, just FIX IT, which they haven't done in so many years...

What do you think about that, besides being unlikely?

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.10 Build 1874 Beta on Nov 13, 2009

This is actually an RC. You can read about it in the Opera Desktop Team blog. On there it also warns that because this is an RC it does NOT install separately.
Phat Esther, stop sitting on your keyboard. You don't make any sense.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.10 Build 1874 Beta on Nov 13, 2009

UHH, no separate install only repair and remove,
repair what? before install
remove what? before install
could be nice install before install perhaps
separate install in many version not working
once time working and once time not working
where is the upgrade function?
what happened with it?
I think the programmers the desktop flutecamp forgotten and not long live
they concenting on mobil only
this beta totally false way backward way
without install i dont say MLS working or not
I think not working as usually as the past 2 years
why just in this beta could be good
not give one star
i not give any star
i give empty circle
like flutecamp logo

kingbujulover

kingbujulover reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Nov 7, 2009

I don't understand why opera have not included a spell check that was the only reason why I move a way form opera to firefox

This version runs or but uses a lot of memory when using all the newly included feature

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.10 Build 1848 Beta on Nov 6, 2009

Multiple Link Save not working since 700 days.

Virtual_ManPL trying use 9.27.8841 no unite no turbo if you interesting i give free for you 5 basic settings to no fail render no crash and 50% faster 50 speeddial for 1920x1080 and many tricks that nobody knows, my flutecamp is 6 star but i give only 1 star for official bughill betas
Phat Esther setting always working without any mistake
1000% perfect
ah yes MLS in 9.27.8841 working i almost forgotten the best opera feature

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Nov 6, 2009

Still lacks speed...
Wheres landed Crackan ?

I dont need Unite or Turbo...
Turbo can be useful on cells
they are wasting time IMO on some s***...

4/5

P.S. Its just me or I smell many fanatic fanboys here... still talking about Fx... lul funny...

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.10 Build 1848 Beta on Nov 6, 2009

Still lacks speed...
Wheres landed Crackan ?

I dont need Unite or Turbo...
Turbo can be useful on cells
they are wasting time IMO on some s***...

4/5

P.S. Its just me or I smell many fanatic fanboys here... still talking about Fx... lul funny...

KayNine

KayNine reviewed v10.10 Build 1848 Beta on Nov 6, 2009

Small, fast, no big problems or disappoints since the first version (v3) I used. So no need to rate it low, though I don't need Unite. But i.e. DragonFly simply ROCKS if you're a web developer/designer!!

KayNine

KayNine reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Nov 6, 2009

Using Opera since v3, never been disappointed by it. So a full 5 stars. Small, fast, great features -- also there's versions available for mobiles that work amazing. Other browsers are good, too, but Opera's perfect to me.

netean

netean reviewed v10.10 Build 1848 Beta on Nov 2, 2009

I like Opera, I find myself switching between Opera & Chrome 4 a lot. Since the 10beta cycle I've used the mail client as well, something I never managed to do before. Using it as a desktop Gmail client it is great.
Browsing is good, it's feature rich, right out of the box.

Sadly it's still missing:
easy way to integrate to delicious.com, STILL no real stumbleupon either.

I'm yet to be convinced by the whole Opera Unite thing, to me, it just doesn't have a purpose or point... but I'd like to be proved wrong!

Opera widgets was a terrible idea, and one they should ditch - they are rubbish and pointless and add nothing of value to the browser/email experience.

The 10 cycle is no where near as fast as it used to be, and it does use lots more memory than before. Chrome is easily faster in every regard. Yet I do still keep coming back to it, it's faster than Firefox, it's very stable - even in the 10.10 betas. Other than a couple of bugs I find with Flickr.com (adding notes etc) I find it works on every other site I come across. It doesn't need boundless add-on like firefox - (some of the add-on for FF are brilliant mind you)

Different people like different browsers - FF is good, Chrome is good, Arora is good (but instable), Opera is good. IE is terrible. Whatever your browser preference there are a lot of good alternatives to the terrible Internet Explorer.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.10 Build 1848 Beta on Oct 30, 2009

IE has the largest user base by far with half of that number still using IE 6 so you can take that Opera low user base comment with a grain of salt.

Secunia continues to say that Opera IS the safest browser as it has (and always has) patched any exploits, something NO other browser (despite fanboy rhetoric) can claim. Go to Secunia and check for yourself.

It IS very lightweight and my side by side test keep proving that. Something like FF (STILL) uses 3x as much memory as Opera with the same amount of tabs open not to mention the inexplicable CPU spikes in FF. The funny thing is that it does this being packed with an email client, torrent client etc. etc. vs a bare bones FF.

Which leads to that last thing. IE and Chrome are very minimal browsers not offering a lot of options as they're intended to be only browsers. FF has a plug-in system with a good community making various plug-ins with many designed to emulate the very things that come standard (and are implemented better) in Opera.

Rhetoric don't mean sh8, the proof is there for you once you open your eyes.

The only issue I had with Opera was with very few sites not rendering properly but I've not come across that in any of the version 10 builds including the surprisingly stable alphas.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v10.10 Build 1848 Beta on Oct 30, 2009

NO it's not, it's just the BEST at being a browser imho.
Which btw is just ONE aspect of security, speed or anything else you pull out of your ***.
No script? That's a joke. Opera has the ability to diable javascript PER site. F*** FF

JCookes

JCookes reviewed v10.10 Build 1848 Beta on Oct 30, 2009

Is NOT the safest, is NOT the fastest, is NOT the most feature rich, and is NOT the lightest. No wonder its userbase can't get past 2%

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 29, 2009

Fast and working 100% as usual
I´m a super fan of this browser

nugro

nugro reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 28, 2009

Ugh, no upgrade option from previous beta, had to move it myself. elsewhere everything works fine like always.

-1 though for the inconvenience

ruemere

ruemere reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 28, 2009

Beta versions use different folders than stable versions. You haven't lost anything, merely changed installation paths.

Regards,
Ruemere

shrek412

shrek412 reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 28, 2009

1844 something wrong with this update. i just update my opera 1833 and lost my emails(pop). I had to restore my system.

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 28, 2009

Using it since version 2x, use it for mail, news and browsing. Mail is just too good and now has HTML support. Handles multiple mailboxes and huge mail databases with ease. Browsing is fast in real world scenario even over tricky poor connections.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 27, 2009

@Floodland
In 10.1 beta you right-click any page & "block content"
kills anything. 'Links' can find popups like gizmag's newsletter annoyance.
Tools, Advanced will edit said contents
Ads? pff, use a host file

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 27, 2009

Like it, as always.

The build is still 1840 though, not 44.

birkis

birkis reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 27, 2009

One thing's for sure - bittermann must be one unlucky bas****, totally incompetent or have some lousy equipment. I have never had any problems with Opera - not even with the betas. My favorite browser.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 27, 2009

@Floodland
ever heard of this thing? http://fileforum.betanew...-For-Opera/1252663378/1

this program should make it easier for eeveryone to block ad's within opera :D i had to use it just one time (a few months ago), and i haven't seen even one ad on the internet since that moment (eeven if i haven't updated my filterlist)

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 27, 2009

A great browser which deserve more attention! Efficient engine, complete product without bloat, secure and fast...
I only miss Firefox adblock features (it has a blocker, but not predefined rules=not enough). Still, you can download a list if you surf enough...

Edit: NMS04, you are damn right, that was what I was talking about, thanks!
Anomoly, please read again my review, I know about the block feature, but a predefined list (http://fileforum.betanew...-For-Opera/1252663378/1 as M;S04 suggest) is a must. Fortunately I am not the only one who think that way :)

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 27, 2009

opera & firefox are my 1-2 browsers. opera always works straight out of the box. sometimes it's a wrestling match to get all my add-ons to work with the latest nightly. and when ff won't play imbedded media, it's opera to the rescue. great browser.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.01 Build 1844 Final on Oct 27, 2009

10.01 Build 1844 final? Is that the final one as in "we give up with this buggy piece of crap"? One can only hope!

Go with the proven FireFox or Chrome and save yourself some headaches.

ciohaeso

ciohaeso reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 26, 2009

@ CyberDoc999: Opera already have included the noscripts feature, and in security Opera is the Best, only see that in Secunia.com

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 22, 2009

Why worry about who is the fastest browser......
the race should be who is the most secure....
Fire Fox with "no script" wins hands down !

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 21, 2009

@ SmokingCat - nope, its onlt faster than IE... Chromium and Safari have the fastest engines now...

@ Sephiroth & Chocobito... - same like up comment + Fx have the best memory management now ;)

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 19, 2009

Do not say this to someone else. This is a top secret. Bittermann and Phat Esther are concealed Opera fanboys. They can't leave without Opera. Even in their dreams they fink just about an Opera browser. Please, support them in their hard mission.

Go ahead bittermann. We are with you. You should save the world from internet browser.

P.S. My default browser is Firefox. But, I have nothing against the Opera. I use it as well. 4 points just because of some minor problems.

blabbery

blabbery reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 15, 2009

@bittermann

"There you have it...Betanew's own browser tests show that Opera is getting slower and buggier."

Huh? It shows no such thing. It says nothing about "bugs" (although it is a beta), and it actually shows a slight performance improvement if you look at the numbers. And that is despite the fact that 10.10 was never supposed to be focused on performance in the first place.

Lastly, BetaNews's test is completely useless and filled with garbage like the irrelevant artificial JS benchmarks that are specifically optimized for Safari or Chrome.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 15, 2009

Opera always the speediest browser ever, the JavaScript speed is only noticeable if you have a -400mHz or an old PC, now with all modern PC have +1000Mhz and Double Core CPU the JavaScript speed is irrelevant. In the real world Opera feel and IS more fast that others browsers like FF.

grisla

grisla reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 15, 2009

@Vimes. What's the problem with Opera's script controls? Right click a page, select "Edit site preferences/Scripting" and make your choices. Or you can turn off Java scripts universally via "Tools/Preferences/Advanced/Content".

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 14, 2009

@bittermann: that test only in javascript and the reality show that Opera is the speediest out there, now if you care so much about chrome and FF go to report about all the bug and slowdown , especially FF :D

uestudae

uestudae reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 14, 2009

@smarterthanyou: all broswer out there are superior to IE

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 14, 2009

In rendering speed Opera is the King.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 14, 2009

There you have it...Betanew's own browser tests show that Opera is getting slower and buggier. I wonder what the Opera fanbois will have to say now?

Please use a real browser like FF or Chrome that continually improves things without slowing everything down.

(Those who say Opera is the fastest in rendering please enlighten me with actual proof, not fanboyism)

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 14, 2009

I am surprised at how much I am now liking this browser having not bothered to install it for a while.
Whilst it does not enjoy the addons of FF it has some unique features that are, imo, making it different enough to make it a worthy contender for my default browser. However I use the "No Scripts" add-on for FF, and others, that I would find an issue in not having with my default browser.
There can still be some formatting issues, always reported, but as this browser continues to develop I am pleased that for me those issues are becoming less troublesome and, in some cases, resolved altogether.
I am not sure why some people consistently rate this browser so low and yet continue to claim to install and use it.? Surely it should be time to move on and stay with a browser that they are more meets their needs..?
Anyhow a pleasant surprise for me when using the browser.
A 4 is used for the rating due to still having some formatting issues and other small quirks.

smarterthanyou

smarterthanyou reviewed v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 on Oct 14, 2009

A one because this web browser and all others are inferior to IE 8, except Mozilla's web browsers.

ZenWarrior

ZenWarrior reviewed v10.10 Build 1830 Beta on Oct 9, 2009

Unstable? Hardly. Opera's beta versions have crashed on me but one time over the past few months--and on Vista, no less. I've seen it be nothing but rock stable.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.10 Build 1830 Beta on Oct 9, 2009

@ SmokingCat - no1 app is bugfree ;)
and IMO Opera lacks stable in beta, but nvm, thats why is names beta to test and catch most of the bugs ;p

@ bittermann - but you know, even IMO IE didnt deserves 1, 2 will do the job ;p
and remember Opera is closed software, thats why you didnt get nightly...
only betas, and thats good to have more betas, because is in 99% equal to more bug fixes landed ;)

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.10 Build 1830 Beta on Oct 9, 2009

@bittermann: FF and Chrome stable and bug free? Nice joke ;)

Final quality beta, the final Unite build is close.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.10 Build 1830 Beta on Oct 9, 2009

@bittermann: get a life :D

Anyway, as always a good working beta.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.10 Build 1830 Beta on Oct 9, 2009

"@ bittermann - lulz ? Firefox releases hourly nightly same like Chrome... xP"

@ virtual_mamapl - lulz ? ....yes they are called nightly, developer, hourly builds etc,, not beta builds that spew out weekly just to increase build count.

OK, I've tried this build and it just keeps getting buggier and less stable. I think the beta build count is increasing because it designates the number of bugs they keep finding?

Please use FF or Chrome as they are much safer, faster and more stable? And to the person that said Opera is the fastest browser...I say WTF?

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.10 Build 1810 Beta on Oct 9, 2009

@ Sephiroth... - yep ;)

@ bittermann - lulz ? Firefox releases hourly nightly same like Chrome... xP

ciohaeso

ciohaeso reviewed v10.10 Build 1810 Beta on Oct 3, 2009

I only waiting for the official Opera Unite release, I love that feature.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.10 Build 1810 Beta on Oct 3, 2009

Nice! and timely too... I like :)

draelail

draelail reviewed v10.10 Build 1810 Beta on Oct 3, 2009

Thanks for the build.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.10 Build 1810 Beta on Oct 2, 2009

no test I catch flu
hope live next beta flutecamp
only mls tested not working nearly 2 years
esther

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.10 Build 1810 Beta on Oct 2, 2009

@bittermann: NAH!! :D

Opera always have the most stable betas from any other browser.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.10 Build 1810 Beta on Oct 2, 2009

I don't understand why there are weekly beta's? I can understand nightly or even weekly alpha builds but weekly beta's? And the Opera fan boy's can't wait to give it a 5 even though there is no way to fairly evaluate it in such a short amount of time? Stick with FF or Chrome as they are much more stable and faster.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.10 Build 1810 Beta on Oct 1, 2009

Still no resolution with the Google Maps search problem. Other than that another awesome build.

Phat Esther,
Everybody can hear you. Heck some might even listen to you. But i don't think there is a single person that can understand you. Just what are constantly moaning about?
English is clearly not your first language which is not your fault. But then you don't bother to try to make yourself understood, you just rant and complain. That is your fault.
You clearly type faster than you can think and judging by the grammar and spelling you seem to be running your prose through some English language obfuscator.
For everybody *else's* sanity please, either try harder to make clear your problem or put a plug in it!

uestudae

uestudae reviewed v10.10 Build 1810 Beta on Oct 1, 2009

Nice Unite build :)

ciohaeso

ciohaeso reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 27, 2009

A very good beta as usual from Opera

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 27, 2009

@Phat Esther: Tested and excellent as always, guest what 5 stars but you are wrong with something, its not that no one can't hear you, IS that no one want hear you :D

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 27, 2009

Two new error in uptil perfect working functions in window tab close and file delete from download (both crash or freeze main flutecamp process( and perhaps dozens of more but i not see everithng cause this unconTROLLed browser growing bughill every weekly Yet Another Buggy Beta release not my favorit forever, i think the old good guy programmers went to CH i see your rocket growing works i recognised them in google 1000 innovativ pespectiv future, i think slow i follow and cange CH parallell.
and
primitiv fivestar monkeys climb back to the top of tree and shake each other bodies
you are reverse star you see oooh new version? hurry up!!! give 5star without testing!
ha ha ha
ah yes Multiple Link Save naturelly not working since 559 days after 9.27.8841
not save multiple any custom foders just individually
sorry guys i tested every relese compare two versins with last beta
i thinking on maje video and up to u2b but it will the biggest shame in flutecamp hystori but not correct use after 10yo from me
all proggrammers knows this problem i bugreprted 100 times to opera
i wrote mail for all highest chef
but nobody cant hear me

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 27, 2009

@ Chocobito - you are probably blind... ;p
Chromium is the fastest in rendering sites... but who cares...

futures is the most important thing IMO of course ;)

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 25, 2009

@bittermann: Are you blind or something?, in render speed no one its better that Opera, include Betanews say that: http://www.betanews.com/...run-Web-apps/1253545782

@Virtual_ManPL: Im not blind, you really read the result or only see that graphics? Chrome win in performance but in rendering Opera is the champion. Well if you don't read the article read this:
Our additions and adjustments proved what our eyes were telling us, that Opera really is the faster renderer.- BETANEWS

draelail

draelail reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 25, 2009

@bitterman: How usual at you, now only miss Phat Esther.
The Two FF Trolls.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 25, 2009

This lastest beta proves that FF and Chrome are still the best. My banking website still doesn't work with this. Also, what is it with website load times, they seem to be getting slower and slower? Well at least it gets the highest score on the acid 3 test (sarcasm)! If you want stability, performance and all the addons you could ever want please try the latest Firefox.

uestudae

uestudae reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 25, 2009

@Blaxima: I agree with you, in any moment will come that stupid FF trolls like Phat Esther and Bittermann. Comments like them only make me think that all that use FF are stupids. (FF its not bad but his reputation its downing with that type of users)

To Phat Esther and Bittermann: waiting for yours trolls comments, but better use your time sending bugs reports to mozilla, really. :D

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 25, 2009

I really like the fact that you can customize it as much or as little as you want in useful ways (like my 40 speed dial shortcuts instead of the default 9) and being able to setup custom searches is GREAT! I even have a search shortcut for cnet!

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 25, 2009

Long time Opera user from way back. Still try every version, alpha, beta you name it, I'll try it. It was the best, now it's not, couple of major problems which they have been unable to fix that appeared after Opera 8.54. Firstly the page loading freeze with the last few elements hanging is very annoying, and secondly it fails to connect correctly to secure sites like your bank all the time. The first one is just irritating, the second one is worrying, you pop over to check if you have any money in your account, and suddenly realize that the padlock in Opera has been replaced by a question mark, and that question mark tells you Opera has not loaded correctly and you could be in trouble. Clicking reload fixes the glitch, but it's not noticing the glitch in the first place that could be your downfall. Fortunately it won't be my downfall as I use Chrome to visit my bank, it always loads the page correctly.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 25, 2009

Opera is THE most secure browser atm when it comes to logins and has quite a nice pass mgr to boot. I just switched from k-meleon because of this. In use, opera works better than both IE and FF imo, & is low on resources. If only this was portable.
I disabled all the extra features, customized search, & picked a color. pretty easy setup.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 25, 2009

EDIT: @anomoly
here ya go http://www.opera-usb.com/index.htm (thats what I use)
or the latest unite beta build http://rapidshare.com/fi...99_Multilingual.paf.exe
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It's a real shame that FF sheeples rather waste their time trying to discredit a superior product but isn't that just the American way, Inferior products with superior marketing. There is a saying for sheeples like the ones we have here and that is that they are "contento di essere un idiota".

Look, do yourself a favor and disregard the good and the bad things you hear and just give Opera a test drive for a week. I say a week because you can't fully appreciate all this browser can do in just a day. Then you'll discover all the features that come standard with this browser the others rip off and make plugins to emulate. Everyone I've given it to to try have not looked back.

On a negative note I seem to have with this release (once again) an issue with hotmail.

Hallway

Hallway reviewed v10.10 Build 1799 Beta on Sep 25, 2009

Yeah, there it also ends.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.10 Build 1792 Beta on Sep 22, 2009

@Phat Esther: According that tests Opera win in all nontroppo test and several others meanwhile FF only win in very few test. Anyway, a stupid troll comment like your its necessary or Opera will have a 5.0 ranking in betanews ;)

In rendering Opera is the KING!!

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.10 Build 1792 Beta on Sep 22, 2009

I try Opera first time. I wondered how amazing, why I not hear from it never ever? My life awful was till today, must used Internet Explorer and Netscape later Firefox. How fast speed i think an webpage and i see it immedatelly on monitor without typing into Opera adress bar. (wow) My favorit the Opera icon - the big red "O" (wow wow wow) Very high speed, perhaps the fastest browser in this Universum or within thousends lightyears, Im sure use ufonauts on their Ships meanwhile eating chips ( haha haha)
I give 6 star cause nice sexy browser not sexstar.
enough
Let see Flutecamp for Windows 10.10 Build 1792 Beta review
Thanks, thanks, thanks and again thanks for betanews because not must say nothing more than they all browser test
http://www.betanews.com/...run-Web-apps/1253545782

zapatero

zapatero reviewed v10.10 Build 1792 Beta on Sep 21, 2009

I use FF 3.5, but I am becoming dissatisfied with it, especially because it is slow. I tried out this version of Opera and I have really liked it. It is fast and it looks nice.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.10 Build 1792 Beta on Sep 21, 2009

Another Final quality Beta, thanks Opera.

bittermann is very inefficient fanboy troll who don't have a real life, I put a 1 star to its :D

draelail

draelail reviewed v10.10 Build 1792 Beta on Sep 21, 2009

For me Opera has been the best for several years now. I started using version 8 and have never given it up since. What's more, this Beta is really blazing fast!

ciohaeso

ciohaeso reviewed v10.10 Build 1792 Beta on Sep 21, 2009

Amazingly good web browser, bitterman its a troll!!

uestudae

uestudae reviewed v10.10 Build 1792 Beta on Sep 21, 2009

simply the best, the fastest, the coolest, the sexiest browser, period, it beats all other browsers in customizition, preferences, security, functions, options, name it, it's got it all and it does it well, and it's the lightest on memory on top of that, you can't go wrong with Opera

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.10 Build 1792 Beta on Sep 21, 2009

Opera is faster, and secure since it doesn't use active x, but the opera team isn't concentrating on security. I have been using opera for a long time, but I wish that the opera team paid a little more attention to the security aspect. However, don't misunderstand me, this is in my opinion the best browser out there. The bad part about firefox is that they bloat the browser with a bunch of plugins that I don't need or use on the intial download of the browser; plus firefox uses basically the same engine as IE, which means active x. In opera I have the choice to add active x for particular websites if needed; otherwise, it will by default not use active x.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v10.10 Build 1792 Beta on Sep 21, 2009

@bitterman,

Cheer up!
Opera browser isn't going away anytime soon.
It has inspired Mozilla in the creation of Firefox and will likely help the others to get better too!

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.10 Build 1792 Beta on Sep 21, 2009

Another buggy beta....This browser is becoming irrelevant compared to today's powerhouse browsers like FF and Chrome. Stick with either of those or at the very least IE8. Opera is only good for mobile phones, if that...good luck getting your banking website to work with this!

darth

darth reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 20, 2009

Opera is the best browser around, light, fast, nice looking, contains a lot of innovative functions like mouse gestures and the rapid access page.
It integrate also a very good mail manager, a lot lighter than Thunderbird, very easy to setup and to backup.
Opera is also quite easy to turn into a portable application (pre-packed USB version exists), and the non-beta 10 release already available: a must have!

canick

canick reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 13, 2009

Opera 10 is a real contender in my eyes. Its rendering engine is vastly improved, and its built in features far out-way other browsers, this page gives a good line up of why its a rival for Firefox - http://bit.ly/URwCa

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 13, 2009

I've never been fan of the Opera browser. The application itself was excellent, light and fairly easy to use. My biggest problem was the rendering didn't work for websites that I used. That was a hugggge glaring flaw and I never bothered to use the application.

Now we're at Opera 10, and after a reading a few positive reviews on the internet saying "Hey this is actually pretty good stuff" I gave it another go. Now historically i've always tried Opera on every major release to see if rendering has improved, and Opera 10 is the first release where they have it nearly perfect.

Opera 10 is successful in not only being a great application but being a sturdy and dependable browsing experience. All my websites work perfectly on it, the built in email application is fantastic. The GUI is snappy and well thought out. When you add in extras like closed tab restore, a built in torrent client...it becomes a powerhouse of an application.

5 Stars, excellent piece of software. For those who have written Opera off as I did, do yourself a favor and give it another shot.

ciohaeso

ciohaeso reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 11, 2009

I have all current versions of the five contenders (Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Safari and IE).
And I love somehow all of them, just like a father loves his sons I believe. And in the very same way I do have my favorite, which is Opera nowadays.

It started being FF, but even with all the extensions and all the improvements, trust me, the feeling using Opera is different and I'm a Firefox fan too. Chrome it's cool, but all that blazing speed cannot compare to the vibe too. Safari well it has it's cool features, but I think there's plenty of work needed to be an actual winner. And IE, we all know how it is with IE...

Try Opera, you won't be disappointed, trust me

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 11, 2009

For me this is the best browser,quick
start ups, nice performance & looks nice. I have used firefox and the others
but prefer Opera.

draelail

draelail reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 11, 2009

I've been using Opera browsers for 10 years now because Opera was always the fastest browser. Today, I use Opera Mini on my cell phone, Opera 10 on my home computers, and I use Opera Link to synchronize all my bookmarks, scribble notes, surf history, and browser settings.
My three favorite features of Opera: 1) the ability to turn images off for screaming-fast surfing, 2) Turbo mode for compressed web pages and faster surfing, 3) a built-in torrent download client for easy "downloads", and 4) the Edit Content right-click feature that lets you block ads from specific web sites.
I don't care much for Opera Unite because I am not interested in running my computer as a server, but the rest of Opera rocks.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 11, 2009

5 trick and Flutecamp 10.10. 1778 beta never false render, never crashes, no big memory and CPU eating, no very hard drive tracking acces menwhile exit and improve 150% speed then default settings
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Sorry guys for non wroting down tips and tricks, just cause flutecamp programmers not repaired the multiple link save since 543 days, sorry. Something for something, if no MLS, no advice.
I think many new users shake head and uninstall Flutecamp because failed pages (lot of homepages not working since 5-6 years i tested cont) and very slow down after use 10 minutes and open 4-5 pages multiple tabs.
On big homepages presto rendering laughingly extremelly slow down or totally freeze must kill proc, i hear everbody says ye ye not optimised for Flutecamp. Not optimised for Flutecamp? Wa? There is all pagemakers use standrd webpage creator softwares, on internet how many years has totally web standards sablons. All other browsers use 100% perfect rendered it, just flutecamp a little right a little left a little up a littele down but never perfect than all others browsers.
Programmers instead must repair first the all bugs and after sports the new but unnessesery and unworkig functions every day for new beta released.
I dont know what means troll why named me troll but i think you are the trolls who called us trolls but i think we are not trolls but i say again i dont know what means troll or what.
Mails not download one session, must check all about 20-30 times for 14935 mails until download the last letter. prvious versions download all letters in one checking time, nut must download only 200-350 letters for one check, if i created new mailbox, download al mails immediatelly not 25 checking of peaces.
Flutecamp very innovative browser but no privacy mode meanwhile all other browsers can do this CH FF IE
I think not the best way every beta has more bug then previous versions, everey release slower and weaker than previous versons every newer flutecamp has more problems for its users than o9 or o8.
If not go to opensource lost the rest of users if nobody can repair bugs at opera sorry flutecamp programmers, i think somebody pay for flutecamp programmers for dont repair bugs for working again.
from i use my 5 trick i have not false render no crash no memory cpu disk hard problems i have got very fast and stable flutecamp, i make this sets for about 2 years trying
this release 1 star but lets good day for you i give 100% more plus free

uestudae

uestudae reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 11, 2009

I have been using Opera since version 5. Innovative, fast, small footprint, low resource usage, better memory management, and compatible with older versions of Windows.

Opera is not popular because
1) It is not open source.
2) It had ads for non-paying users. (not anymore in a long time)
3) It used Java script at a time when it was not popular. This led to greater security, but years ago there were many incompatible web sites.

Based on statistics, IE is the most popular. So popularity does not equate the best.

Opera has gone a long way, and still leading the pack. With all the available features its installation size is still small. Most websites now function well on Opera.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 11, 2009

Opera always improve in any new version. Not like other browsers bitterdork ;)

netean

netean reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 11, 2009

I like Opera and I like Opera 10 a lot. I don't pretend to use all the features, but since the 10 series builds I have started using the email client, which is now, actually pretty damn good - (I always thought opera mail was bit rubbish before that)

I don't use widgets, and I think they should ditch that component, as I don't see it offering anything of value (but maybe you will?)

There was a time Opera was lightening fast, but those days are over. It's no where near as fast as Chrome, but *feels* on par with Firefox for speed (although FF is significantly slower to start than opera)

I do hate the memory usage that v10 has though, it uses a LOT of ram and doesn't release it well when you ask Opera to close.

Every browser has its plus and minus points. I have FF, Chrome and Opera installed in windows and Linux and IE8 also in windows (but never used it) - I switch between Opera and Chrome regularly and find them both excellent. I use FF less regularly, but to be honest, they're all good at what they do.

It invariably comes down to personal preference. Try Opera for a few days and weeks and see if you like it, if not, then stick with your previous browser or try another. I like it, I use it - but we're all different and having more than 1 good browser means we can choose the right one for our needs

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 11, 2009

As good as ever. I don't need lots of bells and whistles, mainly speed and stability. It seems even faster in this build, but that may easily be an illusion, or I've got an unusually fast connection atm. During the entire version 10 test process I've never had Opera crash on my machine, even the early alphas. That's more than can be said for the release version of Firefox I use sometimes. All the sites I regularly visit render without problems; usually if I check the (X)HTML on the few sites I've come across that render poorly the page doesn't validate.

jb64

jb64 reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 11, 2009

Who the hell installs a beta version in a work environment? Once again Mr Bitter Man proves his lack of worth in not actually doing a review of a program.

Opera is not perfect. No software is. Opera Beta version can quite honestly be a little flaky and bug riddled and are best avoided by the unbrave masses. I have been rather pissed in the past by 'the one bug fixed two more bugs created' betas that seem to create rather than resolve problems. It really does make you wonder if someone actually tests the betas before they are released.

I once went through the exercise of trying to install the equivalent of Opera for all of the options I use with Firefox. I spent three days busily downloading various plug-ins to simulate the functionality I already had because Firefox, as I was duly informed, was 'so much better'.

I abandoned this folly. Why? Quite honestly, I downloaded dozens of plug-ins over a three day period to get the same functionality I used that was already integrated in an Opera. I had to ask if Firefox was so damn fricken' great, why was it that I had to go to so much trouble in order to get the same functionality. This was really a rhetorical question and thus I've continued to stick with Opera over the last 10 years.

Opera has had page resizing, tabbed and windowed browsing, multiple sessions, recoverable restart points, search engine short-cuts, mail, news and a hell of a lot of other features years before the other browsers have come on the scene touting these features. It's added RSS feeds, widgets, Acid2 and Acid3 compliance in a timely manner as well.. If some people use very few of these features, then of course they are going to find Firefox or Chrome the simple and easy choice. If it works for you for what you need/want, that's great!

Personally I know I will use Opera for the foreseeable future because there isn't anything else out there that does what this does without a hell of a lot of effort via plug-ins.

The Opera mail client was really crap for the last year in not in any way supporting html emails on the sending side. It was finally been fixed just prior to the final 10.0 release. Ultimately if the mail client still sucks a little but there are other mail alternatives out there. I get by with the Opera one now that it at least does html resend support.

How many other browsers actually support sessions (the ability to save different bunches of web pages for opening all at once later). I can be confident I can reload sessions if I want to pursue music links versus other projects I might have on the go. Sure I can open 57 web pages individually, but it isn't as easy as creating a session. Got a home improvement project? Find all your pages, save them in a separate session and open them all at once. Planning a holiday? Save a session of pages you can go back to. Bookmarks are great, but session saving is better because it reloads the point at which you were at on each site plus having a full history of where you came from to get there.

Configurable? Yes, I like my tabs in sizeable windows, not maximised. This allows me to see recent pages that I might be interested in going back to, rather than having to select them via the tab. I like my tabs on the left or the right, not on the top of the bottom, because I have a large wide-screen monitor. Personal preference is a choice with Opera.

Spelling? Highlighting spelling errors are a handy Mac-Leopard feature but for crappy Windows, we still have to deal without the guide to misspelled words - except for Word, Outlook - and Opera. Yeah, my review might have contained many spelling errors without that little feature!

Damn, my browser crashed (no not today actually). Oh no worries - Opera will reload the exact point you were at when it crashed if you use the auto-save option. No big deal having to figure out the 7 links you took to get from page x to y to find the secret of life because you were remiss in bookmarking a page.

Wand wizard. Not perfect, but definitely less flaky than IIE8 at detecting password changes and context changes. It's been around for many years though. I did much prefer the older Opera versions allowing password entry at a site level , but this has been removed for quite a while. .I can't properly compare the options available in Firefox or Chrome in this regard, as it didn't have this option by default the last time I checked.

Memory usage. Well, I tend to have a lot of open pages, but I'm not impressed with memory usage going up over time. I don't think memory is freed as best it could be unless you shut the program down from time to time. Not a big deal if you have lots of memory or you don't have so many web pages open, but it is something that could be improved. Opera 9 finally squished a serious bug in the time it took to shut down from minutes to seconds with dozens of web pages opened.

Speed dial. I ignored this for a few years, but now I can't imagine life without it. You can configure your favourite sites that you don't want to have permanently open but frequently access in the new tab window. I now have all 25 slots loaded, but I wound like to see this expanded to be configurable to as many rows and columns as I like to define. 5x5 is the current maximum, changed from the original 3x3. Basically your favourite sites can be one click away.

I'm done for now. This is what I consider a review, although it doesn't cover all of the features. 5 stars to counteract the fact that Mr Bitter Man can't actually do a review, but 4.5 otherwise.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.10 Build 1778 Beta on Sep 11, 2009

Great...another piece of beta crap. Installed on a test machine and it crashed on install then again after 5 minutes browsing. If we didn't have to use this piece of junk at work for tech support this would be wiped form every machine we have. Even Chrome has surpassed it now in browser share. Use FF or Seamonkey as it will do everything you need plus its fast AND stable.

(hey jb64 read what I wrote...it's called a TEST machine...dipsh**t)

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 7, 2009

Thank you mms04, the ad blocker was the only thing that kept me using FF. Unfortunately FF latest builds are not good for me, I love opera but could not use it without adblock-like (I do not want to manually block every ad I see) and a small spell checker (added some time ago). Now Opera rules again!

nms04

nms04 reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 7, 2009

great release!!!
a must have tool for every opera user --- the opera adblock configurator
Download @ http://count.primawebtoo...id=79098&id=2404692
it does everything u need to block all the ads on the internet!!

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 6, 2009

The only annoying thing that I found in Opera 10 is that the progress bar on youtube's videos doesn't represent the loading/caching of the video but only the playing, meaning that if you pause a video you cannot realize when the video is completely loaded (at least not by seeing the progress bar). Also once the video is loaded the seeking is a bit odd. This didn't happen in v9.64 (neither in FF). Really sucks. I'll probably back to v9.64 since none of the new features (including the turbo) are very significant to me.

canick

canick reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 6, 2009

Awesome browser, leading the way in my view, with features like Opera Link syncing my bookmarks and SpeedDial on both my PC and laptop and Opera Mail which is one of the handiest mail clients I've used (ditched Thunderbird). Haven't any use for Unite I don't think,but will be interesting to check out. Just hope they improve usability on Google Docs spreadsheets

uestudae

uestudae reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 6, 2009

Recent coverage and news of the Opera 10 web browser might have sparked interest in some users to give this web browser a try.

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 6, 2009

Using Unite again, I don't need other browser.
@improvelence: yeah, go to your cave damn troll!

draelail

draelail reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 6, 2009

Downloading now, kudos for Opera :)

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 6, 2009

Incredible stable. Its funny read comment of trolls like the down here, only say, fanboy stuff and nothing really important, go to your cave troll!

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 5, 2009

It took them HOW many years to spew forth this garbage version with nothing special to bring to the table. Stick to the WII kiddies, because they stats show the only way Opera can gain a sizable market share is if it is the only available browser and forced upon embedded device users. BS BS BS, I have been saying this for years and will continute to do so. This browser is so bad that Jon Stephenson von Douchener has to try to FORCE M$ to bundle it. What a joke.

***UPDATE***

Sephiroth...

Learn to speak English or go post your rantings somewhere that caters to your native language. It's hard for me to take someone seriously when they write like an idiot. Shouldn't you be living in a basement somewhere playing FF7 on a dusty PS1? Final Fantasy Sucks BTW.

smoking polecat

Learn to come up with something funny or don't even bother responding, I mean seriously...you are embarrassing yourself. Who says "Go to your cave troll" is this like 1998 and we are on Yahoo chat or something? The exclamation point made it so much more intelligent....

cwalker

cwalker reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 4, 2009

Yet another stable beta release. Lots of bug fixes in this version: http://my.opera.com/desk.../09/04/10-10-with-unite

Bitterman: it's obvious that you're not an Opera user, which if fine, but if you're not going to contribute anything useful, then don't post here.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 4, 2009

Good work Opera,

e144539

e144539 reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 4, 2009

congratulations bittermann!
successful troll is successful!

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 4, 2009

Opera repaired upgrade bug that I bugsend 2w, 1w and yesterday too very fast job, upgrade working again from older browsers, and able checked for default browser indedd not just seemless
thih version repaired 1 bug
result 5 star

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 4, 2009

bittermann:
You're a g**d*** retard, there is ALWAYS a beta of the FF, which you like so much. But I don't see you running around pouring s*** on it. Nor do I see myself doing it.

Rednecks rule the world, I guess.

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 4, 2009

bittermann

Do you know what "BETA" means?

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 4, 2009

Great....it only took a couple days to start with the beta's again....when will this buggy, slow piece of crap go away! I tried the 10 final but it locked the pc so hard I had to kill it in task manager. Use FF instead, that's the fastest, most stable with all the extensions you will ever need.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.10 Build 1767 Beta on Sep 4, 2009

Opera runs beautifully. This build includes the Unite service

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 2, 2009

I like opera 10 but it seems there is a bug that was not solved which is the voice compatibility with vista 64,,

I think Opera team should give some attention to this issue , as this was mentioned quiet some time in opera forum, no response yet,

blabbery

blabbery reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 2, 2009

@cltx99

"I don't like the way it takes over bit torrents, email and images."

Um, what? It doesn't take over anything. In fact, it specifically asks you whether you want to use Opera or a different client when you click an email or torrent link.

Images? It doesn't set itself as the default image viewer.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 2, 2009

cltx99:
Ever heard of opera:config ?

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 2, 2009

A very good browser, which I prefer over FF3. Lots of good features, but not over done like FF3. fast page rendering. However, I don't like the way it takes over bit torrents, email and images. I also don't care for the drop-down menu for favourites. As for now it's my secondary browser. My default browser on my three computers is Google Chrome 4, which for my needs, does everything well and is nice, fast and simple. The new Chrome 4 skins now make it visually more bearable.

BelgianWaffle

BelgianWaffle reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

Great stuff. Makes tethering speed feels like regular internet with the Turbo feature!!!

draelail

draelail reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

Opera 10 its brilliant, I will forget Firefox now. Excellent work Opera software

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

Yes, Opera 10 its out, all other browser, especially Firefox will come to copy more feature to Opera ;)

SmokingCat

SmokingCat reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

Incredible good browser, its way better that FF, Chrome, Safari, and IE, five stars.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

Excellent, at last Opera 10 Final and its front-pages in a lot of page for all its features and performance. Good for Opera.

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

Best version ever
geting better and better
i bought Opera went was in version 6
now is free and still rule :)

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

MLS not working since 532 days, on all previous versions uptill 9.27.8841 can DO. After 9.50 beta end 10 final can not DO !!
Upgrade from previous versions not working, tested on o3 o4 o5 o6 o7 o8 o9 just standard and separate able install. I reported to oper it 2 weeks 1 week ago and today too.
Least 100 other unrepaired bughill.
We hope the next version Opera "flutecamp" 11.01 beta 1900XXXX try repair 1 bug from thousands.
YES the slowest and weakest performanced browser (except IE) just watch betanews all browser test (picture link under some writes back, full test on betanews review cc 2 weeks ago)(tnx for this homepage again, it means true peoples here).
and severe 10000 other problem it results i star 0 zero.
Why 1 star, why?
Cause this browser very comfortable customizable, better than other browsers together, and i use it 10 years or more near since started.
Yes we love this project, but after went to freeware falled down to others behind.
cause 1 star, if i must could be write the full true cuold give 0 star but anywhere we use it default, ye?
ok the past is past, forget it
lets testing everybody opera "flutecamp" 11 beta sooooooon
best regard Esther

DeKoquonut

DeKoquonut reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

I just tried it - as I have now and then in the past - and it would not load my banking page correctly.

I then tried to right click on a bookmark to delete it, but you can't do that, nor can you sort your bookmarks by name with a quick right click. These are pretty basic file handling features, damn shame that they are excluded in Opera.

Program uninstalled.

us3r

us3r reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

The worst web browser on the market apart from Internet Explorer.
It's slow, buggy, has poor flash support and terrible HD video playback.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

The Good:
- Fast indeed.
- memory footprint is indeed low, but I have ~4 gigs free on this box, does it matter?
- Extremely customizable
- Great Security. Opera pretty much has responding to security nailed down compared to Mozilla, Apple, and Microsoft.

The Bad:
- Toolbar placement and display preferences is wonky. I find that the preferences and options for Opera are the least thought out of the top 4 browsers.
- greasemonkey support is pathetic. The first three I tried didn't work. Setting up blocking ads was a PITA and I can't sync my preferences easily between PC's.
- All the other missing plug-ins really drag this otherwise great browser down.
- Setting up homepages? oh that's right, you are setting up "sessions" great that Opera was zero help here with this basic feature.
- portal.opera.com was abyssmally slow for me this morning.
- I don't want an irc or e-mail client. Can you at least give me an option?

My #2 choice. I'll switch when Opera can do everything FF can do and Mozilla pisses me off.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

The best browser. The fastest, you can customize it easily, it's secure, nice interface, usability and security (top levels).
Also it has everything you want. (browser, download manager, email, chat, torrent client, community, speed dial, trash can, ad filter, widgets in one light application and installer.

No lack of features like Chrome.
No high memory usage and leaks like Firefox.
No problems with security like IE.
No problems with page rendering like Safari.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 Final on Sep 1, 2009

No change from RC2.
I have found a couple of issues though. If you try to create a google maps search it fails miserably. Not sure if this is to do with how the map search is submitted or if it's an issue with Opera. Also noticed Opera will take an age to open or close IF synchronization is enabled and the Opera site is somehow unreachable (as it was today when every Opera user and his dog went to get a piece of the 10.0 action).

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 RC2 Beta on Aug 29, 2009

Very good, and in this RC had a very fast start, way more fast that FF. Waiting for the Final.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 RC2 Beta on Aug 29, 2009

Almost the Final, and its better and better, when Final go out will be the best browser of all time.

netean

netean reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 RC2 Beta on Aug 29, 2009

although I've downloaded this for both Windows and Linux, this review is Linux specific as I didn't really notice much in the windows version.

In linux, everything looks superb now. Email, dialog boxes and even web pages look great, I'm guessing they've done something with font rendering or something but it looks superb (I'm using the GCC4 QT4 .deb package if anyone is interested)

it's very stable so far, and noticeably quicker than any other Opera 10 I've used (either windows or linux) - still not on par with Google Chrome which is significantly faster in both win & linux but it seems faster than Firefox.

Although it eats ram in Windows (and is very slow to let go of it when you close the app), in Linux it's happily sitting here with 10 tabs open using 168MB. pretty good IMO and fantastic compared to Firefox and Opera in Windows.

Every page I visit seems to render and work properly, no issues to report, major or minor so far.

I'm very happy with it.

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 RC2 Beta on Aug 29, 2009

Phat Esther:

I actually always thought the nick was "An Alpha Tester", but I don't see an "h" if you just deleted "anal". If that was really the case, I commend you in that respect. Alpha Tester works with your crying review of all software it seems.

Anyways, after all this time, I decided to try to decipher your gibberish and MAY have found the issue you keep bringing up. What I have done and what you should have done, is properly submit a bug report to Opera or on the forum. Yes, you have posted to the forum, but those posts were done in the same respect that you show here--thus disregarded.

If you want to test what I have found, try downloading multiple links while you have the "transfers" or "downloads" manager open when doing so. If the manager is not opened, I see most links fail. Give it a try and please try to post a comprehensible message of the results.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 RC2 Beta on Aug 29, 2009

Crikey! awesome review from phat esther, nothing like a review chock full of details /s

I have this working perfectly now. I've only come across one or two sites that don't render properly but i'll put my bottom dollar on them not adhering to standards.. All my bank accounts can be accessed just fine. So no problems there. I even have this running portably off a USB stick. My only issue is that Unite services can be a bit temperamental sometimes but i thinks this is more to do with the service as opposed to the browser.
No other browser comes close.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 RC2 Beta on Aug 29, 2009

one star browser because nobody test it just
best browser
fastest browser
the browser sitting
the browser climb
clever browser, clever browser
bring to me this little ball, hopp flying, bring to me, bring back to me, not the tree the ball, the ball, clever browser, clever
go run opera run
thats it we go home before night
go eating to mom
cleeeever browser clever clever good good enough comon hurry home
cleeeever clever my little opera

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 RC2 Beta on Aug 28, 2009

Getting closer: RC now!

It certainly seems even faster than usual. I think Unite is only in the nightly builds at present. It looks like they're not ready to release it yet. :(

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v10.00 Build 1750 RC2 Beta on Aug 28, 2009

Props to Opera for fixing a bug that has really been preventing me from using this browser in the past. You see, I run a website, and Opera would not allow me to use the "Add Link" button in my forums. I submitted a detailed bug report (with screenshots) and now this option is working perfectly. Great work! This is what I like to see. Not really tested for other bugs (or speed) with this build yet. But it's off to a good start in my book!

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v10.00 Build 1733 RC on Aug 28, 2009

Best browser.
Where is the Unite ?

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.00 Build 1733 RC on Aug 26, 2009

The best just keeps getting better!

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.00 Build 1733 RC on Aug 26, 2009

@ bittermann - but you know, it still better in e.g. Internet Explorer and Safari in my opinion... xD
and buggy... I didnt find any annoying for me bugs ;p

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v10.00 Build 1733 RC on Aug 26, 2009

Been using the beta 3, and was amazed at how much faster this latest offering was. So I'll give it a 4, if they ever fix that annoying hanging on the last element it'll get a 5, but not until.

Tygas

Tygas reviewed v10.00 Build 1733 RC on Aug 26, 2009

I'm addicted to opera nightly builds, proud do be best browser user.

Just I miss opensource pluggins

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v10.00 Build 1733 RC on Aug 25, 2009

I'm impressed!

stranded

stranded reviewed v10.00 Build 1733 RC on Aug 25, 2009

The 10 RC is amazingly stable, has a great new icon and improved skin. It's not perfect but it's getting close...

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v10.00 Build 1733 RC on Aug 25, 2009

works great! Final release is supposed to be Sept 1st.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.00 Build 1733 RC on Aug 25, 2009

At last the RC, I look good for now, the final its close.

laptopy.net

laptopy.net reviewed v10.00 Build 1733 RC on Aug 25, 2009

WOW! The new skin is absolutely beautiful. I never thought i'd say it. Previous Opera skins always looked terrible in my opinion. Not so with this one. Definitely the best looking out of all the browers straight out of the box.
Happy to see the Unity buttons easily available too.
Knocks spots off Firefox 3.5 (good but overrated imho). And oh it starts up in a split second unlike FF!

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.00 Build 1733 RC on Aug 25, 2009

@Virtual_ManPL

SSSHHHHHHH or the Opera trolls will come calling like Sephiroth because its the "Best browser ever, and most stable beta browser ever".

Still buggy and slow....everything you'd look for in a browser.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v10.10 Build 1729 Beta on Aug 25, 2009

Whrers landed Carakan ? I want speed, which is Opera now lacking, because is faster only in IE now...
not only unuseful for me gadgets like Turbo & Unite...

and Opera should use better method for scaling instead of Nearest Neighbour in zooming-in and bilinear in scaling down images....

and good will be too see session recovery with all data like posts etc when browser crash ;)

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v10.10 Build 1729 Beta on Aug 25, 2009

Best browser ever, and most stable beta browser ever.

gezley

gezley reviewed v10.10 Build 1729 Beta on Aug 23, 2009

Just downloaded the beta to try the new 10 version for the first time - well, what more can I say! The native skin is vastly improved; the option to position the Tab bar left or right very welcome, the option to have up to 25 pages on the Speed Dial fantastic. Start-up speed and browsing speed are what you would expect of Opera. A brilliant, brilliant browser, without rival in appearance, performance, ease of use, security, and native feature set. Right-click context menus chock-full of extras; the ability to create your own search boxes and put them on your Personal bar; duplicate tabs, and many many extras, nearly all of which Opera implemented years ago. The only browser I find a joy to use, and all without the need for "plug-ins".
I can only surmise that those regulars who come here to attack Opera have some ulterior motive for doing so. I honestly can't imagine a single good reason for launching such vituperative attacks over and over again on this browser. I first bought Opera in 2004, when you had to pay for the full version (without ads), and I would gladly do the same today if they charged for it. It's quite simply that good. People who are wiling to explore its riches will find this out themselves, and should not be put off by the irrational criticism of those who come here on a daily basis just to attack Opera.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.10 Build 1729 Beta on Aug 23, 2009

Opera its in a really good state right now, really stable, and very fast.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v10.10 Build 1729 Beta on Aug 22, 2009

All in all, it's simply the best browser out there and I've tried them all.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.10 Build 1729 Beta on Aug 22, 2009

Dear Opera Fileforum and Betanews Team, you are good people, is there any chance the multiple link save repair and working again after like 9.27.8841 cause not working this feature after 9.50 beta1 since 508 days just waitng and waiting for any programmer repair but nothing happened.
9.27 save 1000 link at once but latest 10.0 must save individually.
Nobody test this feature, but everybody say working because opera not able bad, not able slow, not able wrong just the BETTER and FASTER and $#@%$#*^%ER browser on the world but its not true you know this. We love opera but after went free get into slower and buggy render, all browser better (except IE) but not integrated customize like opera we knows, yes?
Please some programmer test and compare 9.27 and 10.0 and thinking where went to wrong the multiple file save, why must save individually into custom foldar all link that 100 times slower than save ot once.
Try save 1000 link on o10.0 save int c:\folder\sample\links\etc\(files save here)
I do this with 9.27 about -> 2 minutes
You dont do this on 10.0 -> 5 days
compare, measure, and thinking
why working multiple link save uptil 9.27.8841 perfect
and why not since 9.50 beta till today last version.

I never give up my fights, will be the sunny and happy day i hope this function working again and not must use 2 version opera use parallel at same time when i try save 1000 or 10000 link save.

Must live in this planet a programmer heroe who could writing working souce code again.

Must live 1 programmer who have enough brain solved this problem, must be 1 programmer in opera team, i believe it.

please no war, we need peace, thinking, working and the world will be better and opera too.
please

***
Sorry Zero-G-Point i deleted the anal from my name somebody told me what means the anal word not beautiful (back hole)
after i deleted it sorry
***

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v10.10 Build 1729 Beta on Aug 21, 2009

As Obi-Wan Kenobi once said: "Who's the bigger troll? The troll, or the troll that feeds it?"

I think we all know the answer to that question. Just ignore sad, sorry little "bitterman" whose "moniker" (and let's face it) really says all that we need to know about him.

For my own purposes, I think Opera is a solid browser, and thus far v10 is shaping up to be a really, really excellent product. People make a fuss about "extensibility," but in my experience "extensions" lead directly to "bugs," "crashes" and "slowdowns".

This build continues to impress me.

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v10.10 Build 1729 Beta on Aug 21, 2009

Holy Smokes! Phat Esther and her incomprehensible rage regarding multiple link, file, or whatever-save she talks about. These comments looked remarkably similar another's: analphatester. I have to say Phat Esther == analphatester. What is the reasoning for another account? It has been questioned and discussed previously just wtf analphatester was referring to.

I like how Blaxima put it "Another release and another review (and I use that term loosely) from bitterman and Phat Esther."

With more recent development releases, and focusing on Unite more, I think they are coming close to the final, just wanting Unite to be polished before.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.10 Build 1729 Beta on Aug 21, 2009

Thought I would just clear the air before trolls rear their heads. There have been just about 2 releases a week lately and that is because one has the Unite service and the other doesn't. This one is the Unite release

hedley

hedley reviewed v10.00 Build 1723 Beta on Aug 21, 2009

WOW! The new skin is absolutely beautiful. I never thought i'd say it. Previous Opera skins always looked terrible in my opinion. Not so with this one. Definitely the best looking out of all the browers straight out of the box.
Happy to see the Unity buttons easily available too.
Knocks spots off Firefox 3.5 (good but overrated imho). And oh it starts up in a split second unlike FF!

laptopy.net

laptopy.net reviewed v10.00 Build 1723 Beta on Aug 21, 2009

Releases have been very stable even in the alpha builds. Not sure why people complain about a built mail and torrent client when even with that it uses less resources than another browser that needs plugins to achieve the most basic of functions like paste and go for example.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v10.00 Build 1723 Beta on Aug 21, 2009

It's Brilliant

ruemere

ruemere reviewed v10.00 Build 1723 Beta on Aug 21, 2009

Works fine across all platforms. Offers enhanced usability. Requires some learning due to number of options available. Polished interface (on the par with Google Chrome, better than Firefox 3.5.2, light years ahead of IE 8) - please note, that "polished interface" means - easy to navigate, responsive, able to handle large amount of pages.

Regards,
Ruemere

PS. Please ignore the troll, Phat Esther, below. Saving multiple links works fine (Click + symbol, add Links panel, select all links with Ctrl or Shift, choose Save to Download Folder, enjoy).

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.00 Build 1723 Beta on Aug 21, 2009

We dont know why not workig the multiple link save since 507 days.
The slowest and weakest performance browser on earth (except IE).
Many new unnessesery and workingless function.
No bug repair.
On forum, cant, doesnt, not, problem, bug, failed, bad, crashes, wont, no longer, wrong, strange, slow, etc, etc ...
Opera on desktop DIED
R.I.P.

the multiple link save into custom folder working uptil 9.27.8841, after 9.50 beta1 to latest version NOT WORKING !!! I tested continously the two browsers compare. I KNOW WHAT I SAY !!!!!!!! DONT LIE WORKING !

cwalker

cwalker reviewed v10.00 Build 1723 Beta on Aug 20, 2009

Opera 10 kicks some serious butt. It's got everything I need built in and is highly configurable.

I like how you can easily configure speed-dial now without having to edit the .ini file. I'm glad that they finally included spell-check. The visual tabs is kind of neat, although I don't use it much. It has allot of little things that I
appreciate.

Speed wise, it keeps up with my browsing habits, so no complaints there. I've never done side by side comparisons with other browsers to test speed, but in my experience, they all are plenty fast enough.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.00 Build 1723 Beta on Aug 20, 2009

Another release and another review (and I use that term loosely) from bitterman. If this browser is such a waste of time why do you waste yours seemingly on only this piece of software?? If its not for you I would have thought you would have figured that out by now

Releases have been very stable even in the alpha builds. Not sure why people complain about a built in mail and torrent client when even with that it uses less resources than another browser that needs plugins to achieve the most basic of functions like paste and go for example.

I'm not an IT guy and I don't work in a computer store, I simply investigate things for myself with an open mind and choose the software that works and performs best for me and that is why I've settled on Opera and not silly hype or rhetoric

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.00 Build 1723 Beta on Aug 20, 2009

It's a little confusing when Betanews shows the nightly builds as well as the more familiar Beta 1, Beta 2, Beta 3, etc. The nightlies are really only meant for dedicated testers. This is currently a build of Beta 3.

As stable as ever, and I've yet to find a problem, apart from a couple of installers not working properly on a couple of the nightlies.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.00 Build 1723 Beta on Aug 20, 2009

Another day another beta...can't wait for beta ver. 1724! I'm starting to wonder if that's actually the number of days ver. 10 has been in beta? I've tested this, it doesn't come close to FF useful plugins or Chrome's speed!

BelgianWaffle

BelgianWaffle reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 17, 2009

Coming along great....still a few bugs, and I would love to have silent browsing, just like IE, but this feels ready for release soon!

Balderstrom

Balderstrom reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 16, 2009

@PhatEster, I don't know what you are talking about...
If you mean links on a page, you open the Panel, click on "Links" select the links you want, and rightClick open or save.
If you mean links in your bookmarks, then the only options are saving selected as either HTML or an .ADR file.

@Vimes, Honestly I don't care that Opera has a torrent option built-in, I use uTorrent. The fact that it is still only 5-6MB and has a plethora of options like mail, and torrent and messaging is nothing short of impressive. I don't recall the exact size, but the last time I installed FireFox it's program folder was over 14MB and you had to download it's Mail program separately.

As far as Opera vs Chrome, try a different skin, and right click on any toolbar in Opera, "Customize" and start deleting stuff you don't want.
For example, I have my StatusBar at the bottom with:
[Clock] [New][New][Fixed Spacer][Bookmarks? ] [Panels][x][»][Status Display][Zoom%]
[x] == close panel
[»] == open displayed panel in a new Tab.

My addressbar is also at the bottom:
[DisplayViewMenu][Back][Refresh][Wand][AddressBar][Go][DisplayViewMenu][FitPageToScreen]

All the other menu's are removed. My View Menu - when it is displayed, is also at the bottom, and appears above the AddressBar, it contains:
[Home][Back][Forward][Rewind][FastForward][Top10][Bookmarks][IdentifyAs][x enable plugins][Author|User Mode][Show Images]

I have not seen any other browser that allows as much customization as Opera does. Period. You can even *easily* customize what the Menu's you want to display, or ANY of the context menu's are. By editing Application Data\Opera\Opera\profile\menu\standard_menu (1).ini

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 15, 2009

Anyone who gives this browser a 1 star rating are probably the same people who are against universal health-care, but I don't mind I live in Sweden and have great health-care, thank you very much.

Getting to the point, the Opera browser is excellent. It's my default browser on all of my three home computers. It simply gets better all of the time.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 15, 2009

It is a very nice browser and I do want to use it more but there are still some formatting issues, always reported with certain sites.
I would still like to see the browser support extensions like FF, rather than the type of widgets it does support. I do like the minimal room that Chrome takes up compared to Opera, whilst remaining functional in a way that I like to use it.
I would also wish that Opera would drop both the mail client and torrent support - concentrate on a more functional lean and fast browser, considering how long Opera has been in the market ts share of that market is very poor.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 14, 2009

The best browser that only fan-boys and freaking trolls will put only one star. Opera always deserve 5 stars.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 14, 2009

Opera has BIG BIG celebration today !
500 days ago released the last working multiple link saved version 9.27.
After 9.5 beta this function removed and must individually save all links, wasted much of time.
500 days or 12 000 hours not short period of an browser life but no programmers who repaired this feature.
500 days waiting for what?
500 days waiting for Opera programmers?
500 days big number lets everybody drinking today a lot of and forget a little problem that make us crazy every day every hour and every minutes.
THANKS OPERA
HAPPY BIRTHDAY for 500 fak!ng s!t

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 14, 2009

Beta 3 == Beta 107000000000? I must have missed my arithmetic classes.

Sure, there are *weekly* builds, but not nightly builds like Firefox, so I'm not sure I understand your reasoning and argument. I'm also not sure how it can be stated "...[Opera] rates low compared to all the others except IE..." with the current BN score being 4.2.

I use Opera almost exclusively, but use Firefox when something does not work in Opera (and IE if not work in Firefox) and I do not see the majority say Firefox is crap. I have to agree with dapixn that " this browser works. Its email client is 5*** if you imap it with gmail and you dont have to find plugins here and ther to do basic things." If anything that I see, your "fanboys" of Firefox are those saying "FF rulez and others is junk". I dislike wearing my FF s*** or hat in public because people who think they're cool praise me with the dribble but are ignorant and not open-minded.

Not bashing Firefox, but "oh, a new Firefox version is out......uggh, none of my add-ons work because they are not compatible with this version. doh!"

The BN single browser "speed test" does show v10 as being "...the slowest browser on earth (except IE)". Can you honestly say that you can notice the difference? I can't recall from the article, but did that test include all the FF add-ons that will be required to support the same feature set in Opera? I value speed, but I value productivity, efficiency, ease of use, configurability, and innovation more (to an extent). Yes, if something takes 100x longer to do and is noticeable, I may sacrifice those criteria.

This build is working great so far; I have not had a single issue that I can recall since I began running the v10 releases.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 14, 2009

"So much for your qualifications. It's in a perpetual beta cycle because they're for *different versions*. New releases with new features, features which are usually trend setting for the browser market."

Huh? Because they're different versions"....wtf, Opera 10 has different versions? Talk about no qualifications! They might want to squash a few bugs vs adding new features in beta 107000000000. I also don't get your comment on IE? I say Opera is better then IE and I still get trolled for it. LOL

TomasF

TomasF reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 14, 2009

"There is a reason it is in a perpetual beta cycle..."

So much for your qualifications. It's in a perpetual beta cycle because they're for *different versions*. New releases with new features, features which are usually trend setting for the browser market. And if this wasn't enough to discredit you to anyone who even knows what a browser is (which most web users don't), the claims about IE will fix that. Thanks for visiting, don't let the door hit you on the way out!

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 14, 2009

i'm a longtime opera fanboy, but also a minefield fanboy. i would probably only use opera, if not for the fact i can't get opera to work with flickr. so i have to bring up a minefield (ff nightly) window to upload pics, etc. but other than my flickr problem, opera works with everything else, right out of the box. ie is getting a lot better, but opera and ff (try both, or either, you'll like 'em) are what ie shoulda been a long time ago.

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 14, 2009

While i use Firefox mostly, I like Opera. I have only run into one bug that makes a certain feature on my own website unusable. I have written a very detailed bug report (with screenshots) regarding this issue a couple of beta releases ago. I am eager to see if this issue will be fixed. Overall, I think Opera is an excellent browser, and I use it second only to Firefox at this point.

dapxin

dapxin reviewed v10.00 Build 1708 Beta on Aug 14, 2009

Those who know dont talk. Those who talk dont know a thing...

If you dont like the 'crap', why stop by to write a review ? You are the fanboy.

Let the ones who use this, continue to recommend it to the few folks, who are prepared to try things, and see for themselves.

The software works, to its own huge and very independent merit. Not too many opera users can be bored enough to write FF reviews for example.

goodluck.
-------------

To anyone with an open mind, and looking for web efficiency - this browser works. Its email client is 5*** if you imap it with gmail and you dont have to find plugins here and ther to do basic things.

If you try it and don't find it efficient, feel free to ditch it. But dont until you have actually tried it.

goodluck.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.00 Build 1703 Beta on Aug 14, 2009

@the Opera fanboys

In my position I have to test every browser and have it on every phone tech's machine to help customers troubleshoot. So I think I'm pretty qualified to rate this program. Fortunately the times we had to help troubleshoot this crap is few and far between. There is a reason it is in a perpetual beta cycle...

I've also rated other programs on here as well with 4 or 5's so whoever thinks all I've rated are 1's is just throwing crap to see if any sticks. All I here from the rest of the fan boys is Opera rulez and FF is junk.

To me a browser is just a browser so I have no bias, and this one rates low compared to all the others except IE...

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v10.00 Build 1703 Beta on Aug 14, 2009

@bittermann

"I see a couple morons on here troll anybody that doesn't give this browser a 4 or 5."

Everyone has the right for an opinion, but why rate the program just one star? You rate Opera 1 star several times. If you intend to be an objective and do not like something, rate it objectively and not emotionally. I was curious and have visited your profile. You have no positive comments at all and you rate all programs with just one star.

@ bittermann [new]

Look, I'm not an Opera fan-boy and I'm not a boy neither for you nor for someone else. Besides, I use Firefox as well and I rate it 5 in spite of some annoying bugs. I'm not going to argue with you. That's all.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.00 Build 1703 Beta on Aug 13, 2009

@bittermann

I'm curious to know what your definition of a "troll" actually is seeing that you have commented negatively 3 times on Opera in a span of 10 days(and happened to sing the praises of FF in the process)??

Opera for me continues to be the best browser and instead of being redudnent in singing its praises I will say that I find the last few releases to have a much slower start up time than I'm used to. Don't get me wrong though, its not FF slow.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.00 Build 1703 Beta on Aug 13, 2009

More stable that every other browser out there.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.00 Build 1703 Beta on Aug 13, 2009

Downloaded this nightly build and unlike yesterday the installer worked without problems. As always with the current version, both alphas and betas, the browser itself works without problems. I'll forgive them the hiccup yesterday.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.00 Build 1699 Beta 3 on Aug 13, 2009

Cripes another beta...this thing has more beta's than Chrome! Opera lost the desktop market so why not just stick to the mobile market...

PS: I see a couple morons on here troll anybody that doesn't give this browser a 4 or 5. Apparently nobody else has a right to an opinion unless it's positive. Almost as bad as the apple fan boys.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v10.00 Build 1699 Beta 3 on Aug 13, 2009

Hello alanpalmer,please explain the thought process that allows you to give Opera beta 3 five stars when you have not even been able to install the thing ? The mind boggles. I have managed to install it thankfully, it works well, I had been using beta 2, and that was also an excellent browser. I will give this offering four, it's better than Firefox, but not as good as the latest Chrome beta. Chrome is faster, Firefox slower, IE8 crashes, but the Opera betas have continually been better than the Opera stable versions, so I'll stick with it and hope that one day it'll show Chrome the way home, maybe one day, but not yet.

pdail

pdail reviewed v10.00 Build 1699 Beta 3 on Aug 12, 2009

This Browser, has been a favorite, of mine, for quite awhile. The last build, had a problem. But they seem to have fixed it, with this Build. Everything, seems to be, moving along to the Final Build.

JaDa

JaDa reviewed v10.00 Build 1699 Beta 3 on Aug 12, 2009

The Linux builds you can find here

http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/1000b3/beta3/

latest screenshot from Linux Opera 10 beta3 x86_64 are here
http://files.myopera.com...78/opera-build-4573.jpg

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.00 Build 1699 Beta 3 on Aug 12, 2009

When I tried to install I got the error message 1152 "Error extracting installer.msi to the temporary location". I'm using Vista and have admin rights. I downloaded the file a second time - no luck. I also rebooted without success. Anybody else getting this problem?

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.0 Build 1691 Beta on Aug 8, 2009

HA HA HA
Opera the slowest browser on earth (except IE)
I told this few month ago and evybody laughing
ok
watch this
http://images.betanews.com/media/3711.jpg
thnks guys

some guy

some guy reviewed v10.0 Build 1691 Beta on Aug 7, 2009

I just installed this and I like it the speed is nice I just still can't believe their is no add block type filter. You can download the fanboy.ini and place it in your user profile and it will block most adds

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v10.0 Build 1691 Beta on Aug 7, 2009

Pretty fast and full of features browser. Opera 10 certainly works better and faster than IE 6,7 & 8, and in my experience it beats FF in resource consumption.
Now what I cannot understand is why some people gives Opera the lowest rate without reviewing it and instead they just exalt FF features, this is the wrong place to remark the goods of FF, go to FF thread/review for that, here is for judge Opera for its features and functionality. Do you think that it deserves 1 star?, well then say why, make a good description of your experience with Opera and present valid points for such low rate. I mean the fact that some people finds FF better than Opera doesn't mean that Opera is a bad browser. Appeal to that lonely neuron an try to be objective people.

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v10.0 Build 1691 Beta on Aug 7, 2009

RE: bittermann

It became really annoying. I'm not an Opera fanboy. I use Firefox as well. I can suggest you one thing - do not waste the BetaNews space. Leave it for more competent persons.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.0 Build 1691 Beta on Aug 7, 2009

I can knock on Opera because FF has so many more addons and plugins that make it heads and above better and more functional than any browser out there. To contest that would be pure stupidity. It amazes me how some of you Opera fanboys will rip on FF but when someone doesn't like Opera then we are just trolling. Look at all the comparisons lately with other browsers vs speed and functionality. The only browsers Opera ca beat are IE 6/7...wow! Good luck with your ever lasting beta software...

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.0 Build 1691 Beta on Aug 7, 2009

I know I'm not supposed to, but I've been using the betas as my main browser for about a month now with absolutely no problems. The last beta actually had a Unite that worked! Simply awesome. 10 is simply way better than 9.64 which itself is a brilliant browser. I've had a couple of website (really obscure ones) break but 99.9% it is simply brilliant.
I simply can't understand how people like Bittermann can rate this a 1. Not even IE would get a 1 so how can they rightfully give this a 1? Opera has lead the way since day one and knocks spots off Firefox. The number of innovations coped by Ffx from Opera is not even funny and even then most of them are just crappy add-ons that don't get updated when a new (buggier/more resource hungry) version of Ffx get's released. I regularly open 80-90 tabs in Opera following links in sites like Digg, Reddit, Slashdot, Dzone etc. something that is absolutely impossible with Ffx.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.0 Build 1691 Beta on Aug 7, 2009

Still has rendering issues with certain sites, which I always report. I do wish they would drop widgets and use a similar system to FF's extensions. Then again I would also like them to drop the torrent and mail support and concentrate on developing the browser.

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v10.0 Build 1679 Beta on Aug 5, 2009

to bittermann

Rate Opera one star just because Opera team realized several betas? So, what?

How many times Firefox have been "updated" since the official 3.5.0 realize? Several times in a one month. This means only one thing, Firefox was not ready for the official realize and was made in hurry. Firefox is slow and buggy. Besides, it's freezes on a pages with a big scripts, while Opera opens such pages easily.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v10.0 Build 1679 Beta on Aug 3, 2009

"Firefox is slow and buggy."

Ha...That's the pot calling the kettle black! FF is not in beta by the way...fast, stable and very customizable for me.

BelgianWaffle

BelgianWaffle reviewed v10.0 Build 1679 Beta on Aug 2, 2009

According to Opera, a version for the iPhone 3G has already been compiled, but Appstore did not allow it, since it directly competes (and probably would blow safari out the window) with its native browser. Personally I hate that kind of doing business. Apple has become what microsoft was before.

dtbbiplagre

dtbbiplagre reviewed v10.0 Build 1679 Beta on Aug 2, 2009

do you know when it have version for iphone and iphone 3g ?

thanks!

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.0 Build 1679 Beta on Aug 2, 2009

@PhatEster that its no excuse for rate 1 to this really great browser.

shallot

shallot reviewed v10.0 Build 1679 Beta on Jul 31, 2009

@PhatEster, Opera has far more features than the clown FF which just copies from Opera and tries to look like IE with each release. Opera is the browser which has been really innovating most of the features in browsers for the last 10+ years.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.0 Build 1651 Beta on Jul 31, 2009

Instead of "sports a surprising array of new features" could be repair all unworking old functons eg. multiple file save that not working after 9.27 and must links save individually 100 link half an hour, thanks for programmers big thanks

Balderstrom

Balderstrom reviewed v10.0 Build 1651 Beta on Jul 22, 2009

Coover: "Let me know when Opera finally has a multiple home page feature. IE has it. Firefox has it. Safari has it. But the Opera developers think "Speed Dial" or saving web pages is enough. NO NO NO. Until Opera has the multiple home page feature, it will not be used much on my computer."

Mmmm it already has this? It's called: Speed Dial, which lets you effectively have as many "HomePages" as you like. Speed Dial is displayed every time you open a NewTab/Page, and by default lets you save 9 sites for quick-launching - either by clicking or CTRL+1 thru CTRL+9. If you like, it can even be configured to more than 9 for those with wide screen monitors.

I've used Firefox recently, I was suprised how much it looks like IE. Possibly one of the reasons it's gaining marketshare. Personally I'm glad Opera, at least, differentiates itself enough not to clone IE's appearance just to appease IE users.

One of the first things I do when installing a new Opera version is change the default skin: http://my.opera.com/community/customize/skins/
You can also do Skin Download/Selections right from the Opera interface: Tools/Appearance/Skins [*] Find more skins.

My favorite (one of the dark skins): Emil_RSD_Black : http://my.opera.com/comm...ize/skins/info/?id=2528

@ruemere: File/ Sessions -> Save this session
Session Name: MyStartup
[x] Show these tabs and windows every time I start Opera.

Close Opera, Restart, No Startup "Window" is displayed. You are presented with your saved tabs. So, it pretty much does exactly what you want.

ruemere

ruemere reviewed v10.0 Build 1651 Beta on Jul 22, 2009

"Sorry Gezley. Your method is not what I want. When I click on that big "O" on my Launch Bar, I don't want to see "Start-up dialog", all I want to see are three tabs with three separate web pages. I don't want to see the "Speed Dial" and then have to click again to go to the web page I want to start at. I don't want to see one of the three pages and then have to go to "Speed Dial" to open the others. I want all three tabs available immediately, and I want each tabbed page to be the most recent variation of the page. I do not want to have to refresh a page from "History".

Opera is good, but it won't do what I want it to do, when virtually all the other browsers will. Opera needs to add this option."

There are several ways to achieve this. The simplest way:
1. Open desired pages in tabs, close all other pages.
2. From menu bar: File / Sessions / Save this session, make sure the option "Show these tabs..." is checked.
3. From menu bar: Tools / Preferences / Start-up, Choose "Continue saved sessions".

Regarding caching the pages and mass refresh:
1. Click "Windows" button on left-hand panel (press "+" and add "Windows" if you cannot find it).
2. Select open Windows / Tabs (with Ctrl, Shift or just click any and press Ctrl+A).
3. Press F5 or press Ctrl+R.

Disclaimer: I am using customized shortcut set, so your shortcuts may vary. Just right-click and choose appropriate action if the shortcuts fail to work for you.

Regards,
Ruemere

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v10.0 Build 1651 Beta on Jul 21, 2009

coover:
As gezley stated, save your pages in a session, but with slight difference. When saving to a session, make sure "Show these tabs and windows every time i start Opera" is enabled. Note this will also change your Startup preference to "Continue saved sessions". I am not sure if IE/Firefox/etc. has it, but sessions also save all open windows at that time (if you want), not just the one window of tabs you save. When you save a session with windows and have it shown on start, you can then have all windows with tabs opened automatically.

Edit:
You may also want to look here for an alternative to sessions:
http://operawiki.info/OperaTips#T00

One of the great things about Opera for power users is that there is not much you can't do, but requires editing configuration files...but not as complex as writing your own modifications in Firefox from source. It may seem simple, but users have the ability to control a lot.

You can also have a look here to see how to launch multiple web pages with one button/menu item:

http://my.opera.com/comm...ums/topic.dml?id=279623

gezley

gezley reviewed v10.0 Build 1651 Beta on Jul 21, 2009

Regarding multiple home pages:
Opera goes one better. Save multiple sports-related pages to one session; multiple news related tabs to another; and multiple tech related tabs to a third. Set Opera to show the Start-up dialog when it starts and hey presto, multiple sessions. Take your pick.
Something Opera has had for as long as I can remember.
Now tell me: how long was it before Mozilla and MS figured this out? Or perhaps they haven't figured it out yet; it's been so long since I used their memory-hogging bloated garbage I just don't know.

coover

coover reviewed v10.0 Build 1651 Beta on Jul 21, 2009

Let me know when Opera finally has a multiple home page feature. IE has it. Firefox has it. Safari has it. But the Opera developers think "Speed Dial" or saving web pages is enough. NO NO NO. Until Opera has the multiple home page feature, it will not be used much on my computer.

Edited after Gezleys remarks above...

Sorry Gezley. Your method is not what I want. When I click on that big "O" on my Launch Bar, I don't want to see "Start-up dialog", all I want to see are three tabs with three separate web pages. I don't want to see the "Speed Dial" and then have to click again to go to the web page I want to start at. I don't want to see one of the three pages and then have to go to "Speed Dial" to open the others. I want all three tabs available immediately, and I want each tabbed page to be the most recent variation of the page. I do not want to have to refresh a page from "History".

Opera is good, but it won't do what I want it to do, when virtually all the other browsers will. Opera needs to add this option.

Drewz

Drewz reviewed v10.0 Build 1651 Beta on Jul 21, 2009

I had used Opera since version 6.16 and I kinda got off the boat after 7.23, Im now back on the boat. Opera 10 is very good.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.0 Build 1643 Beta on Jul 19, 2009

This release as others have said has Unite included. It really is quite amazing the speed difference with v10 all the while they've been adding so many new features to it.

Changelog:

User Interface:

Restyled Home Button
Further tweaking of opera:x, error and fraud pages look
New icons for setting status in a chat window
Fixed Bug DSK-256805 (Opera crashes when dragging separator to trash can)
Fixed Bug DSK-258230 (Padlock icon stretched on Security Information dialog): Full set of padlock icons for security dialog

Core:

Fixed Bug CORE-16936 (Flickering and freezing - always scrolling to top (rtl.de))
Fixed Bug CORE-18854 (Going to a fraud URL with a username crashes Opera)
Fixed Bug CORE-22634 (Local cookies aren't listed in site pref cookie tab (caused problems for Unite))
Fixed Bug DSK-200545 (Cookie crash on exit)
Fixed Bug DSK-256433 (Gmail locks up when zoomed)
Fixed Bug DSK-258426 (Infinite iframe recursion when src=="javascript:void(0)", until memory runs out)

Mail

Fixed Bug CORE-22048 (Links opened from mail and newsfeeds stop loading when you focus another mail/feed entry)
Fixed Bug DSK-257739 (Importing mail fails when files are open)

Opera Unite

Changed "Home" To "My Opera Unite page"
Disabled advanced settings button if "disabled" is selected
Fixed Bug DSK-254303 (Installing Unite services from file (on disk), breaks service when deleting file)
Fixed Bug DSK-254960 (Changing service name in replacement dialog is not reflected in admin view): Setting service name during installation only applied in the gadget after re-start
Partial Fix of Bug DSK-257931 (Add visibility of Unite users on the local network): The local service discovery, UI part
Fixed Bug DSK-258328 (Logging out and logging in with a different username doesnt work): Storing username even though password isn't stored
Fixed Bug DSK-258449 ('Restart Opera Unite' option checked by default on start-up dialog even when Unite is not enabled)
Fixed Bug DSK-258470 (Global visibility options not saved when enabling Unite)

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v10.0 Build 1643 Beta on Jul 18, 2009

The slowest browser on earth (except IE) most of pages not correct rendered or not at all many new unuseable function but old usefuel and neccesery func not working for moreall browser go ahead but operafly back as an rocket very very hard thinking to change to chrome after ten years using, presto rendering hahahahahaha

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v10.0 Build 1643 Beta on Jul 17, 2009

I don't understand several aspects of Opera:
1. When I set my toolbar preferences, it completely ignores them. Seriously, when I uncheck "Address bar" it disappears, until I start to click on the "personal bar" again. This happened with 9.x as well.
2. Given the above, the preferences for Opera are just way too complex for my tastes. Having to go to file-->sessions to set my homepage tabset? Seriously, you will not be getting converts from other browser users with that configuration. I had to ask on forums to figure that out, it wasn't in Opera's help.
3. Still not importing my firefox bookmarks as I would prefer.
4. Some rendering issues persist. Takes getting used to selection insertion point not showing up on text hover.

It is fast, but I still still still need greasemonkey scripts!

edit review after a few hours use with Opera:

Some forms filled out do not show the last line of text after losing focus. This is a total deal-breaker for me. Bye Opera.

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v10.0 Build 1643 Beta on Jul 17, 2009

Opera Unite and Opera browser are not two separate browsers; Opera unite is a component of the Opera browser that acts as a web server for collaboration with other Unite users.

The [official] build of 10.0 Beta 2 (build 1642) does not include Unite, the other [Beta 2+, build 1643], as a development snapshot, does. This is because the developers do not feel Unite is ready for an official beta release.

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v10.0 Build 1643 Beta on Jul 17, 2009

2 betas in almost one day? NO.

The point is that Opera realizes two browsers - Opera Browser, which you can find here http://www.opera.com/browser/next/ and Opera Unite, which you can find here http://unite.opera.com/ .

The build 1642 Beta, which was realized yesterday was usual Opera Browser. But the build 1643 which was realized today is Opera Unite. They have even differently named installers, not just the different build numbers.

The point is that Beta News mixed this two, in idea different browsers in one article. So, it's not an Opera teams fault and there are no two betas in almost one day. Beta News should make two articles - Opera Browser and Opera Unite.

I use Ope Unite and rate it 5.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v10.0 Build 1643 Beta on Jul 17, 2009

I don't get it, two betas issued within a few hours of each other. Rubbish planning, and not the first time this has happened. They did the very same thing with the last official beta, one beta one day, and a second beta the following day. We fans need to get some sort of system going, perhaps a batch could post glowing comments on beta 2 version (a), and a second gathering of fans could post glowing comments on beta 2 version (b). I'm using the latest version, or was, not sure now though, still whatever version I've been supplied with I 'll give it a 4, it's worth a 4.
PS Thanks for the input on what beta I needed to be using. I'm now back to 1642. The problem would not occur if the automatic update I have enabled actually did what it was intended to do, it doesn't alas. Just a thought, nobody uses the discussion button to discuss stuff like this, why?

MasterTB

MasterTB reviewed v10.0 Build 1643 Beta on Jul 16, 2009

You can find the UNITE included builds here: http://my.opera.com/desk.../07/16/more-than-beta-2 at the Desktop Team Blog.
The UNITE is still the same as launched, with improvements on the proxies from Opera's servers so it runs better.
Hope you enjoy this GREAT peace of software.

uranos227

uranos227 reviewed v10.00 Build 1642 Beta 2 on Jul 16, 2009

Betachecker
There is a snapshot "build 1643" out.
It include "unite" function.

Go to "Opera DeskTopTeam" Blog.

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v10.00 Build 1642 Beta 2 on Jul 15, 2009

Where´s the Unite service on this build?

LakotaElf

LakotaElf reviewed v10.00 Build 1642 Beta 2 on Jul 15, 2009

Opera makes a good browser, no doubt about it, but I do not like a browser with email included with it. I want a browser and email client to be separate. Just my opinion of course and I am not the only one that feels this way, perhaps they could also make it without email included? But a good browser?

JaDaDowntown

JaDaDowntown reviewed v10.00 Build 1642 Beta 2 on Jul 15, 2009

Version 10.00 Beta 2, Build 4492, Platform Linux System x86_64, Qt library
4.5.2, GCC4, RPM
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/

It looks looks stable. Comes with out "UNITE", hopeful Opera realizing this "UNITE" is a Craps..t :)

shallot

shallot reviewed v10.00 Build 1642 Beta 2 on Jul 15, 2009

How in the hell do you get hold of builds not even announced on the website...awesome...good job

This is the best browser out there....

Edit : confirming that there is no UNITE on this build...probably they took it out to tweak it more before RC...

dapxin

dapxin reviewed v10.00 Build 1631 Beta on Jul 14, 2009

I started using this browser, stuck on a dial up link somewhere in the heart of Africa around 2001. It was a night shift, and all systems was working fine, so surfing around, I stumbled on the then Opera theme " the fastest Internet browser, or so"

And then I thought, let's see. After 1 or 2hours of waiting to grab the download, I was instantly blowin away at the performance. I think it was ver 5 or 6.

Sooner had I discovered what is singly the most-amazing-piece of BROWSER functionaltiy == mouse Gestures, I found myself reading its help files -which to be honest is the finest way to actually get-a-grip-on what this browser is capable of.

I found about the links panel (press f4), found about the donwload manager and the zoom functionality (numPad + / - ) and then email client named M2.

I personally don't get the arguement about this is better or that is best regarding browsers, its all down personal preference, but one must not be ignorant.

If anyone thinks FF or IE or Safari is a better performing browser compared to Opera (for their workflow, none of those is as fast as Opera 10 - ditch the benchmarks ) then that is fine, for as long as they have actual competence on what Opera can do.

And the email client (it used to be very buggy, so I stopped using it) + gmail imap is simply the most under-announced piece of internet technology on the entire internet (you heard it from me).

The fact that it indexes your entire email collection on the fly without reverting to that nonsensical desktop-search the 500GB! (joking) Outlook 2007/6/10 alternatives is just plain amazing once you try it. Well, it doesnt come with a calendar, but I do that on a proper paper and pencil so there you go.

The userscripts (Opera's implementation of Firefoxs' greasemonkey scripts) are less featured - this is definietely a downside as I find that a couple of scripts I am willing to use to 'enhance' few things dont usually work out of the box.

That said, this thing just makes the Internet a truly beautiful way. As Nas said, those who talk

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.00 Build 1631 Beta on Jul 11, 2009

WOW! The new skin is absolutely beautiful. I never thought i'd say it. Previous Opera skins always looked terrible in my opinion. Not so with this one. Definitely the best looking out of all the browers straight out of the box.
Happy to see the Unity buttons easily available too.
Knocks spots off Firefox 3.5 (good but overrated imho). And oh it starts up in a split second unlike FF!

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.00 Build 1631 Beta on Jul 9, 2009

Runs perfectly for me, it simply is the best browser out there.

Highlights
-New design for info panel, error pages, internal pages (e.g., opera:about), and fraud warning page
-Skin fixes, including updated icons
-Stability fixes
-Unite fixes
-Admin password is no longer needed when reporting crashes on Mac
-Improved plugin detection on 64-bit Liux

Known Issues
-opera:drives and opera:historysearch not yet updated to new design
-The bottom (white) part of the new error pages might not load every time
-The skin is still work in progress
-Some Unix builds may be missing, but most of them will be continuously uploaded

laptopy.net

laptopy.net reviewed v10.00 Build 1622 Beta on Jul 6, 2009

You're simply the best, better than all the rest
Better than anyone, anyone I've ever met
I'm stuck on your heart, I hang on every word you say
Tear us apart no, no, baby, I would rather be dead

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.00 Build 1622 Beta on Jul 3, 2009

The new skin has taken a little step back with this release but I don't use it so it doesn't bother me. What I do use this for it comes through with shinning colours(why is the spell check saying I spelled colour wrong? isn't it only Americans who spell it c o l o r?) now where was I? In my testing Opera runs leaner than the others, is fast and is rendering every page I come across properly now. They continue to add new innovations and somehow still be lean. I haven't come across any issues in the last 3 builds like I did the 2 before those so it's back to a 5* rating from me. Me thinks its ready for final release seeing just how stable it's been.

This is hands down the best browser and it's a testament to what happens when you spend more time working on a product rather than promoting it.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v10.00 Build 1622 Beta on Jul 3, 2009

i like it !!!
the best and the fastest browser

g4qber

g4qber reviewed v10.00 Build 1622 Beta on Jul 3, 2009

please fix the spaces bug

1. go to opera:about
2. type "/", type space
3. press F3 x30
note that it stops at 16x.

here is the bug report
*** DSK-241255 - spaces

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.0 Build 1615 Beta on Jun 30, 2009

@mjm01010101 Opera already has support for Userscript.
This build is very stable so far, good work.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v10.0 Build 1615 Beta on Jun 30, 2009

Firefox *partial* convert here.

Opera *is* faster for my pages. It does use less memory. Ramping up to get it to act how I want it is still a learning curve.
- I can't seem to control the toolbars to the extent I can with Firefox.
-The help system is pretty bad, I had to look offsite to find what I needed for several functions.
-I do miss some firefox plugins like Greasemonkey scripts.

Right now I'd give Opera a 91 and Firefox 3.5 a 93 out of 100 score. I will keep Opera on and try and use it more day to day. I see no reason why people *have* to love one browser and *hate* another.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v10.0 Build 1615 Beta on Jun 30, 2009

That's three betas' in three days, you need to be a fan to keep posting about how great it is. Well I'm here to tell you it's a decent browser, I'm using beta 1601, reason ? Well when I try and update to the latest version I'm told I've already got it, well I ain't, In fact I have not had the latest version for at least two betas', or in Opera betas' two days. So what's the point in having the auto update box checked if it don't update ? I 'll still give it a 4, it's worth it , and I've been using it for such a long time.

_DrillSarge]I[

_DrillSarge]I[ reviewed v10.0 Build 1606 Beta on Jun 28, 2009

great browser. runs pretty stable for a beta version. i am using opera since a long time and the 10-version is doing well. :)
lots of features (mail, irc etc.) and those new ones, like this REALLY amazing unite-feature which no other browser does have. the new UI, inroduced in some of the last builds, is pretty clean and does not have those shiny (and annoying) "bling-bling" effects. and don't forget the widget functionality.
5 stars *thumbs up*

nugro

nugro reviewed v10.0 Build 1601 Beta on Jun 25, 2009

oh my...
giving a browser 1 star just because of memory consumption?
what? you install a browser just to monitor it's memory usage on the taskman??

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.0 Build 1601 Beta on Jun 24, 2009

That memory consume test its really polemic, to some people how make the test for his own, the result are really different, so this test don't have validity to me. This version of Opera never use more that 150MB to me and its really fast.
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But the way, more important that memory is CPU consuming and Firefox its really CPU consuming, in a test with 15 web page open at the same time Opera CPU consume was 10% vs Firefox was 60% with peaks of 90% of CPU!!!

PD: Don't be such fan-boy Aegis69

tewa

tewa reviewed v10.0 Build 1601 Beta on Jun 24, 2009

actually, the RAM does affect the computer performance quite a lot, especially when multiple applications are running.

I use Opera primarily but it has a nasty habit of consuming large amount of memory, not sure why. and if I having multipe tabs opening, then later minimize Opera to work on something else, after a while, say 10 or 20 minutes, upon returning to opera, opera would appear "Frozen" for a while until it could catch its breath. This problem has been there as long as i could remember. I never had this problem with Fireforx or IE.

Kriff

Kriff reviewed v10.0 Build 1601 Beta on Jun 24, 2009

The new interface looks great. It's a very smooth browser with a plethora of features.

About the RAM usage and speed, is 200MB really slowing your computer down? Those numbers don't mean much if there's no decrease in the speed of your system. Browser speed has gotten to the point where the differences are trivial. I've always found Opera to have a snappier interface than the rest, which makes a greater overall difference.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v10.0 Build 1601 Beta on Jun 24, 2009

I guess if you like wasting 200 megs of Ram;

http://dotnetperls.com/chrome-memory

And get 1/3 of the speed, then Opera is fine...

http://www.betanews.com/...5-RC-release/1244474138

Mirrebex

Mirrebex reviewed v10.0 Build 1601 Beta on Jun 24, 2009

Great.. ;) simple and great

Hawk999

Hawk999 reviewed v10.0 Build 1589 Beta on Jun 18, 2009

The last few years I have been very critical towards Opera. I tried several versions and was impressed by its startup and rendering speed but not by its user interface or features.

For instance I never could make Opera get to acknowledger Gmail as my default email handler. Even when I tried with the help of Dutch blogger Rijk. A few weeks ago I decided to try the new beta 10 Build 1551.

Boy, was I surprised. I don't know what happened but the developers at Opera seem to have been listening at the users input. I had version 10 running as I wanted to within minutes. And with the help of the people at the user forum Opera now can handle Gmail as my default e-mail program.

Ad blocking is taken care of by adsweep and bam! I now have a lighting fast easy to handle browser. Spell check is easy to use and the download of other dictionaries is smooth to say the least. I was also impressed by the fact that this beta build performed rock steady on my system.

I am even happier with this new Build 1589. Not only does it have the 'unite' service working easy and right out of the box its renders a bit faster than the previous build. There is only one site that has not been loading that good and that's Hyves. Any other site is doing very well.

In short if you have been thinking about trying out Opera you should give it a go. Four stars because of the Hyves loading problem. Other than that highly recommended!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v10.0 Build 1589 Beta on Jun 17, 2009

WOW!!!! This is GREAT!!!!

URAWMD

URAWMD reviewed v10.0 Build 1589 Beta on Jun 17, 2009

I found that even though it says to disable turbo mode if you have a fast connection, don't. It is really fast if you take it off auto and leave it on full time. It does have a problem rendering some .jpg's but .png's are perfect.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v10.0 Build 1589 Beta on Jun 17, 2009

GREAT! miles ahead google and ff

Ain Soph Aur

Ain Soph Aur reviewed v10.0 Build 1589 Beta on Jun 17, 2009

O! M! G! i just love it! :D

shallot

shallot reviewed v10.0 Build 1589 Beta on Jun 16, 2009

As usual Excellent build and Unite just works...no addons required, no extensions required...all you bookmarks everything from Opera included via Opera link...

I have been with v10 for over 8 months now...and I never seen a bad build...

ZenWarrior

ZenWarrior reviewed v10.0 Build 1589 Beta on Jun 16, 2009

After watching Maxthon die, finding IE8 to be a disaster, and suddenly Firefox crashing every 3 minutes, I decided to try "old" Opera. Wow! Although I've almost always had it installed but never used, I am truly impressed with the new Opera and it has immediately become my new default browser. It is truly a beautiful and elegant piece of work. This is the browser which *should* be either #1 or #2 in any ranking.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.0 Build 1589 Beta on Jun 16, 2009

Another excellently rock-steady build. As fast as ever and it displays all my regular sites without any problems. The new Opera Unite looks very interesting. I'll have to look into it before making any judgements, though, so I won't add or remove any stars for it at the moment.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.0 Build 1589 Beta on Jun 16, 2009

This Build its Amazing!! this came with the wonderful Opera Unite where you can share thing direct from your PC, this make Opera the BEST browser at all.

BelgianWaffle

BelgianWaffle reviewed v10.00 Build 1551 Beta 1 on Jun 3, 2009

Loving this new look and feel. Turbo mode is awesome, spell-check, auto-update, and the much improved rendering speed is much welcome :D Its rock solid, no crashes. I am using it as a final, not a beta.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.00 Build 1551 Beta 1 on Jun 3, 2009

As fast and stable as any of the alpha builds, as might be expected.

shallot

shallot reviewed v10.00 Build 1551 Beta 1 on Jun 3, 2009

Been using the 10.x builds right from the alpha days and they have been awesome...they even recover automatically from a crash. With Opera Sync setup, even if you lose your profile due to a crash, it's as easy as syncing again to get back all your data....

Opera & IE8....their parents might fight each other ugly in courts...but these two browsers take care of all my needs...

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v10.00 Build 1551 Beta 1 on Jun 3, 2009

This is wild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkaZtpKRcZA

OPERA > *

!!!!!!!!!

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v10.00 Build 1551 Beta 1 on Jun 3, 2009

Keeps getting better!

Good speed, nice new skin.

Like Thunderbird, the mail client needs a bit of work.

adam.yao

adam.yao reviewed v10.00 Build 1551 Beta 1 on Jun 2, 2009

Some pages in thumbnail of tab is chaos.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v10.00 Build 1551 Beta 1 on Jun 2, 2009

The Opera of the 29th May, is build 1535 Beta, not Alpha, so what's going on ? Two days later we have build 1551 Beta 1. Well having done a quick am I up to date, Opera tells me that my build 1535 Beta is the latest ? I'm confused. So the best I can do is mark my Beta, and that'll get a 4, as it's very, very good.

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v10.00 Build 1551 Beta 1 on Jun 2, 2009

NOTE: Upgrading from Opera 9.x will NOT work, the installer will fail (it will falsely claim because of user abort). You will need to remove the old Opera first.

turistas

turistas reviewed v10.0 Build 1535 Alpha on May 29, 2009

Doesn't work well with blogger.com blogs, so nothing god.

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v10.0 Build 1535 Alpha on May 27, 2009

Though listed here as an Alpha, it reports itself, once installed, as Beta. It does seem more stable, and though there is a small change to the way it displays, I hope to be able to change it back (small nit though) . It's so much faster than 9.64 that I hope Opera comes out with a stable version soon, -even if it is not as fast as Chrome - I think those who think will excuse it for all the other things Opera does better than Chrome.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v10.0 Build 1497 Alpha on May 23, 2009

Simply the best! Really stable and fast.

stranded

stranded reviewed v10.0 Build 1497 Alpha on May 14, 2009

Opera for Windows 10.0 Build 1497 Alpha

This one is really stable, it auto-updates from the last build without any problems. All I need right now is more spell check dictionaries added.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v10.0 Build 1497 Alpha on May 14, 2009

A very good browser, particularly, when you consider it's at the alpha stage of development.

Daily Activist

Daily Activist reviewed v10.0 Build 1497 Alpha on May 13, 2009

There's one and only one reason that I use Firefox as opposed to Opera. Add-ons. I don't like the widgets function of Opera and prefer Firefox's way of making the browser extensible. If Opera would change this one thing, I would switch to them in a second.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v10.0 Build 1497 Alpha on May 13, 2009

After many years of using Opera I have had to at last concede that Firefox 3.xx is superior. Sorry but I've had to move on, bye Opera. I still feel guilty as if I had ditched on old friend. I even bought the thing!

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.0 Build 1491 Alpha on May 12, 2009

I continue to try and like Opera and forgive its quirkiness at the way it formats some websites. But still one of the websites that I use, my bank, will give formatting issues that are not there in IE or Firefox and therefore I can't use Opera exclusively. I always report websites that have issues with Opera.
For me I would hope that they would drop the mail feature and the torrent support and just concentrate on developing the browser that supported plugins similar to FF and not the widgets that it does.
I continue to be amazed to find how little Opera is used...

http://img24.imageshack....sermarketshare12421.jpg

...even though many people are very passionate about the browser that alone is not enough to prevent its market share from declining, according to the above graph posted.

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v10.0 Build 1491 Alpha on May 11, 2009

Shallot:

A: Because We are rating the version RELEASED HERE, not the final release. If a bug pops up in this version or any other, you rate that version as appropriate. If I wanted to rate opera based on what it can be or used to be, it would never get below a 4. Ratings here are PER VERSION, not PER APPLICATION

B. If in my testing I find problems which become a show stopper, those problems most likely merit a lose of a rating point. Various bugs == various points lost.

C. If you do not understand that others have a different viewpoint from your own, I suggest you move on to another site.

That said, Opera continues to lag behind in COMMON features found amongst other browsers. If you want to edit a stored password in opera, you cannot do it. Entering a different password at said site results in a duplicated entry in the wand requiring manual deletion. Most other browsers update the existing entry.

Opera does not have an autocomplete function. The notes function is NOT a substitute for proper autocomplete.

Opera still has no support for allowing third party content to interact with it. UserJS is not a replacement for a true API or extension system where the users can add functions missing in opera (Yes, opera has blaring holes in functionality yet still manages to fill niches no one wanted (Torrents, widgets, etc)).

That said, I feel that opera will continue to be a 1/5 because I simply cannot make this browser, something that is personal to each user, my own.

shallot

shallot reviewed v10.0 Build 1491 Alpha on May 11, 2009

Been using Build 1491 on Windows 7 for the last couple of days...and its very good.

People have complained about how 1456 corrupted the profile and gave a low rating. There are couple of points to take note here...

1. This is not a release version.
2. Please read the release notes. They clearly mention that starting 1456, the way profiles are stored is changed.
3. You are supposed to be testing it, so why give the browser a low rating if you don't follow the instructions and screw up your data...

jotte_ct

jotte_ct reviewed v10.0 Build 1491 Alpha on May 11, 2009

Me 3, I was a huge fan of Opera, but lately, these builds start "crashing" constantly on my main system, no matter what i tried, even clean reinstall importing only bookmarks and wand. Too bad... I had to switch to another browser and I think I won't give opera another spin for a while.
On the other hand, I'm still using Opera usb and it's doing ok.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.0 Build 1456 Alpha on May 9, 2009

This is the first time I've ever done this to Opera but this release and 1491 which is available have MAJOR issues with the profile folder, namely it fudges it up constantly and after losing bookmarks associated with this build and all other preferences every other time a loaded it I'm back to older builds.

I just can't imagine what they could have changed that would cause such problems but I don't like it.

Hope they figure this out for the next build because everything was gravy until these latest 2 builds

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v10.0 Build 1456 Alpha on Apr 25, 2009

Been using the last alpha since it arrived some two months ago, it never let me down, it was fast, and everything worked. However the latest crashed within five minutes of install, so it's in the bin, and I'm back using Chrome full time. Got to give only one star for this Opera , matters not if it's an alpha, a beta or the finished article, if it don't work I can't give it higher.I'll be back to try the next one though.

netean

netean reviewed v10.0 Build 1456 Alpha on Apr 24, 2009

Current using beta 10 (1413) its' the only browser I've installed on this machine (other than the never used IE8).
That version fixed some bugs (like facebook), but it's very very very unstable and page renders are slow. (Opera is usually damn quick IMO)

It IS alpha, but so far, I'm not convinced by the v10

exit

exit reviewed v10.0 Build 1456 Alpha on Apr 24, 2009

Another outstanding build

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v10.0 Build 1456 Alpha on Apr 24, 2009

It's just amazing how fast you can browse. Multi options if you want to customze our browser.

shallot

shallot reviewed v10.0 Build 1456 Alpha on Apr 24, 2009

Awesome...

People, this is an alpha build...so be ready to experiment ...and take a backup...

If you want a stable release...install Opera 9.62

skapig

skapig reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 11, 2009

Upgrade install path completely overwrote my previous configuration whereas prior alphas had respected it. Very irritating!

Qlib

Qlib reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 6, 2009

Complaining about the looks if you havent installed a SKIN is lame....

Complaining about bugs in an ALPHA, doubly so..

Yeh its buggy as heck but its alpha so....

ssb

ssb reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 6, 2009

Too many unfixed old bugs.

anarkhy

anarkhy reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 6, 2009

Looks like a windows 9x application. Go for Firefox or Google Chrome!

myboy

myboy reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 5, 2009

Is it just me or is Opera using more memory than usual (think Firefox-like levels)? However, it's stable for an alpha and even with the increase in memory usage, Opera is still fast.

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 4, 2009

i typically bounce back and forth between opera & minefield, liking them both. but the early peregrine builds have been less than inspiring. however, build 1413, with its turbo mode (whether it's doing anything or not) and spell checker is intriguing. a built in flash & ad blocker would be really nice. (8

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 4, 2009

For an alpha this is quite stable and I am waiting for the beta. For those taking stupid jibes at Opera, apart from being a company that pioneered many technologies like data pipelining, tabbed browsing etc, its also among the lightest of all the suites out there, its mail client is among the best handling multiple mailboxes and backing up 1GB mail with ease. The new turbo Opera is a boon for those stuck on slow connections.

shallot

shallot reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 3, 2009

The best browser ever made by man.

Their innovations have been copied for years. Tabs, Mouse gestures, url alias.

betasun

betasun reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 3, 2009

Oprah wants to browse the web with her private browser !!

exit

exit reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 3, 2009

The Finest world class

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 3, 2009

Why do idiots even bother posting?

and to the other idiot a few posts ago, Opera is a Norwegian browser which isn't in Sweden.

This update has corrected the problems with email sites such as inbox, gmail and hotmail. This release also seems to have fixed the flash issue problems with sites like nhl.com and ajax sites like netvibes.

and as always its faster than the rest and just a much better built browser who's innovations become the plugins for lesser browsers

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 3, 2009

Why does Oprah even bother making a browser, I mean isn;t it enough that she has her own show and magazine?

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v10.0 Build 1413 Alpha on Apr 3, 2009

Imao this is the best browser

enmaai507

enmaai507 reviewed v10.0 Build 1345 Alpha on Mar 29, 2009

The best browser, I just love the alpha even more.
btw Opera is based in Norway :)

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v10.0 Build 1345 Alpha on Mar 16, 2009

Way are my opera 1355 and not 1345 as it say in the article, .

I do like opera but I like IE8 better.

Cant help it. sorry out there.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v10.0 Build 1345 Alpha on Mar 16, 2009

It's really such a good browser, even in the alpha stage. page rendering is fast. I like it much more than FF2 or FF3. One nagging problem is that my bank, in Sweden won't accept Opera. So, I can't check my account and can't pay my bills with Opera, which means I have to use Firefox. Other than that, it is very stable and works just fine. I'm looking forward to the future with Opera.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v10.0 Build 1345 Alpha on Mar 16, 2009

The dimished image quality makes it a no go IMO.
They should at least give the option to keep "best"or "least" image quality.

cwalker

cwalker reviewed v10.0 Build 1345 Alpha on Mar 16, 2009

I've been using the turbo preview all weekend (http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/03/13/) on a dial-up and have to say it is pretty amazing.

cmotdibbler

cmotdibbler reviewed v10.0 Build 1345 Alpha on Mar 16, 2009

Strange, my current build is 1355 and includes the turbo mode button, while this build is listed as 1345. In any case, this is at least as stable as the Firefox 3.1 beta I usually use.

edit: cltx99: it is very ironic that your bank in Sweden does not work with Opera since Opera is based in Sweden!

chinobis

chinobis reviewed v10.0 Build 1345 Alpha on Mar 16, 2009

Simply the best browser. I just use iexplorer for the FEW sites that do not display correctly with Opera.

BelgianWaffle

BelgianWaffle reviewed v10.0 Build 1285 Alpha on Mar 4, 2009

I find this alpha build stable as any regular release. Impressive. The new rendering engine is the fastest i've tried so far.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.0 Build 1285 Alpha on Feb 18, 2009

I love Opera and I was very pleased when the spell check was implemented.

However I have problems with..

My banks website
Partmaster UK's website (for completing purchase authrorisation)
Yahoo Mail - stopped working with the new type of mail display, classic option only.

Regardless of masking or identifying as IE or FF these problems remained.

I filed bug reports since the 10 Alpha preview started as well as reporting them in Operas forums.

Alas even though my posts in their forums were not offensive or anything other than reporting the problems and issues I found my thread has been locked and posts deleted.!!

It really is not encouraging for me that even though we are at version 10 of Opera I'm still experiencing formatting and display options that FF or IE have overcome so long ago, not suggesting that those browsers are perfect (hence my attempts to use Opera which I do love) but the love / hate relationship with Opera is getting a little tiresome.

No wonder that Opera's share of the browser market is lower than that of Chrome.!

View Trend Microsoft Internet Explorer 67.55%
View Trend Firefox 21.53%
View Trend Safari 8.29%
View Trend Chrome 1.12%
View Trend Opera 0.70%
View Trend Netscape 0.57%
View Trend Mozilla 0.07%
View Trend Opera Mini 0.06%

I wish Opera well and really hope that the developers can focus on some of the basic formatting issues that have plagued my experience of using Opera for so lone, and yet I'm often elated and excited when I do see a new release I then find that after using it for a while fundamental issues creep in which really spoil my browsing experience.

ssb

ssb reviewed v10.0 Build 1285 Alpha on Feb 12, 2009

Too many unfixed bugs for so long!
Do Opera people really know what a debugger is?

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.0 Build 1285 Alpha on Feb 12, 2009

Well seeing that v10 are alpha's their stability is very impressive. BUT
The memory leak issue(which I've never had with Opera before)has been improved but not entirely fixed.

Also, more and more sites that had rendering issues before have been fixed such as hotmail had issues in the first alpha build and this one doesn't, BUT some pages that have always worked for me don't now. Quite a few Ajax based pages seem to not load properly as with some flash heavy sites.

Here's hoping that when v10 is ready to go it doesn't suffer the way v9 did and behave more like a beta and to be honest these v10 alpha's are better than any of the v9 builds.

oh, and for those new to v10, pages render much faster than previous releases and site incompatibility has improved too. The spell checker is a long overdue inclusion but the dictionary being used needs to be improved. I find that quite a few words I spell correctly have the little red line and the reason is because Oprea doesn't recognize the word and either offers poor sugestions or none.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.0 Build 1285 Alpha on Feb 12, 2009

Runs as well as ever, no problems at all so far. They might as well have been full releases for all the problems I've come across with these alpha releases, and this build is no exception

belthurgp

belthurgp reviewed v10.0 Build 1285 Alpha on Feb 12, 2009

@improvelence

Yeah, Google Chrome is the biggest adware you can find. Have fun while Google takes away your privacy...enjoy

Opera was the first to bring tabs, mouse gestures, standards compliance and many more

try using it for some time before commenting on it...

waxwing

waxwing reviewed v10.0 Build 1285 Alpha on Feb 12, 2009

Would never believe it was an alpha version except they tell you it is. Works extremly well, no bugs for me, no memory leaks. Just very fast.

svenno

svenno reviewed v10.0 Build 1229 Alpha on Feb 3, 2009

I have been a long time user of Opera and have always appreciated the innovations for which they rarely received enough credit. I prefer Opera over any other browser. I am currently using the latest Alpha 10 and am somewhat disappointed. It does not seem as fast at loading some pages as either FF 3 or IE 8 - for example, pcmag.com is beyond slow (I am using and loving Windows 7). The biggest problem I am experiencing is an apparently huge memory leak. If I surf for more than 15 minutes (and seriously, who hasn't surfed for 15 minutes?), the memory used by Opera (per Task Manager) climbs to well over 250MB. I can watch the usage climb even when I am doing nothing other than reading a page. At the same time, there are relatively few other processes that are using even 10-15 MB, at the same time. This effect is reproducible and also is consistent on my Windows XP Pro machine. Clearly, something to do with this Alpha build. Trying FF 3 or even IE 8, memory usage stays below 35MB after 25 minutes of continuous surfing. I suggest that others take a look at their memory use and see if this is common. In the time it has taken me to type this, memory use has gone to 258MB. If I close Opera and restart, memory usage starts low and steadily builds back up. Just my observations. Still a major Opera fan.

RWW

RWW reviewed v10.0 Build 1229 Alpha on Jan 15, 2009

Would never think it was an alpha! Very, very fast and accurate.
Had a problem loading the last few versions and found I was not alone. Could not completely uninstall and start over as Opera would not show on any uninstaller. It is necessary to go to the two or three Opera references in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software|Classes and delete them. Restart and then install fresh copy of Opera.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v10.0 Build 1229 Alpha on Jan 15, 2009

It's taken them YEARS to come up with THIS?

Do something innovative, surprise me...give me something USEFUL.

Even Google chrome will probably out-pace this junk.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.0 Build 1229 Alpha on Jan 14, 2009

I've been singing Opera's praises for a while but honestly, NOW it really is deserving. The great things about it still are great but the page rendering of sites has greatly improved(still some won't but they won't even in firefox now too so...) and the addition of a spell checker was looooooong over due.

The stability of these alpha's are impressive. This release addressed 2 issues I had with the last alpha so they are definitely taking this browser to the next level.

DACWILSOL

DACWILSOL reviewed v10.0 Build 1229 Alpha on Jan 14, 2009

I do not understand why this browser is great in some areas, i.e. speed, but it's rendering of certain secure websites is still not good enough. The pages on certain secure sites wont even load in this browser. Sent feedback on every site. Problem still persist.

keiichi999

keiichi999 reviewed v10.0 Build 1229 Alpha on Jan 13, 2009

the auto-update along with glorious acide-test results and security history make this the best opera version and best browser so far.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.0 Build 1229 Alpha on Jan 13, 2009

Remarkably stable for an alpha. I've also not had a single problem since the v.10 alphas came out (so far!).

waxwing

waxwing reviewed v10.0 Build 1229 Alpha on Jan 13, 2009

Alpha's are normally, with most products, very trouble prone, I haven't had a single problem with any of the alpha versions of version 10.

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v10.0 Build 1229 Alpha on Jan 13, 2009

This is easily turning out to be the best version of Opera yet.
The stability of these alphas is amazing (compared to previous alpha phases).

Acid 3 being rendered 100% correctly is also wonderful.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v10.0 Build 1219 Christmas Edition Alpha on Dec 23, 2008

AutoLogin is good...HOWEVER-- not being able to view stored pw's anymore is terrible... Don't force security options on me that i don't want or need....or at least allow Roboform to interface with Opera then!!!!

One good new feature: view pdf in browser utilizing FOXIT.

Allowing Opera to share AND realtime update / sync bookmarks, history, etc. with other browsers would garner a much wider usage base....

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v10.0 Build 1219 Christmas Edition Alpha on Dec 23, 2008

New features work well, although the spell check could use a bit of help - such as understanding contractions.

Speed is good, always has been.

I wish the team would fix the problem that has been with Opera since I started using it (8.53) - when Opera is not in memory clicking on a URL will result in a Windows error message stating that the web address cannot be found, and did the user spell it correctly. With Opera in memory, the problem disappears. This occurs on systems of every speed, from old single CPUs to quad core machines. I have been able to reproduce this problem on over 200 machines. The only thing in common is Windows XP and a version of Opera. IE, Firefox, and Chrome all do not exhibit this behavior.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v10.0 Build 1219 Christmas Edition Alpha on Dec 23, 2008

I must say I am pretty impressed with this Alpha version. It is rock solid, renders pages superfast (especially Facebook) and scores 100% on Acid3, along with much lower RAM useage (at least on my two computers, One Vista SP1 and one XP SP3). I am eagerly awaiting the first beta.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.0 Build 1219 Christmas Edition Alpha on Dec 23, 2008

I love the spellcheck, although the implementation could do with a little refinement.
To get Yahoo mail to work, without having to revert to the classic look, I had to mask the browser as IE.
Unfortunately I can't get the browser to display certain pages correctly within eBay's "My eBay". It will often return blank or not formatted correctly webpages. I have reported the issue.
Small formatting errors persist in many other sites that I visit. My home banking site for example displays its columns and boxes misaligned. Gooogle maps just refused, but not all the time (!!) to work stating that my browser does not meet the required specifications needed.

I imagine that a lot of the above will be worked on in time, this is only an Alpha release after all.

However all of the above issues are simply not there with IE or FF. Regardless of the reasons as to why that happens as an end user I have felt compelled to switch back to FF.

For me formatting issues have plagued Opera for a long time and along with the superb set of plugins / addons available for FF I often find myself leaving that browser even though I do like it a lot.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v10.0 Build 1219 Christmas Edition Alpha on Dec 22, 2008

Multiple file save not working after 9.27 8841 and partially 9.62 final.
All typed words red.
What doing programmers mother on that night?)
Almost all opened site render totally fault.
Like an mosaic game in Space.
UNUSEABLE version

some guy

some guy reviewed v10.0 Build 1219 Christmas Edition Alpha on Dec 22, 2008

the auto password for log in into websites never fails like Fire fox but....... we need something like addblock plus Opera can you hear me over?

jotte_ct

jotte_ct reviewed v10.0 Build 1219 Christmas Edition Alpha on Dec 22, 2008

I have switched to Opera for some time now, and I gotta say I am pretty happy with it. Indeed, this version seems a bit faster than 9.xx. I will see in the long run, but I think i won't be disappointed.
On the other hand, I have to say from time to time I also try other browsers, but after a while I come back to Opera.

I really wish they will offer a native 64 bit (Vista) version. Meanwhile, under Vista 64 I'm forced to use Minefield (aka Firefox).

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v10.0 Build 1219 Christmas Edition Alpha on Dec 22, 2008

@horsecharles,
Put the caffeine tablets down, step away from the keyboard and nobody gets hurt....
It's an Alpha. Relax.
With regards to some of the criticism, since when could you see the passwords in Opera? You can see which sites have passwords assigned but you certainly can't see what those passwords are AFAIK. I can't see anything different in this Alpha. With regards to Keepass and Roboform. They are third part applications. Opera is under no obligations to interface with either. If those apps want to interface its up to them to code it *not* Opera. BTW, i don't see Roboform working with any other browser except Trident and Gecko based (actually only Firefox, since K-Meleon doesn't work either) browsers. So what's the beef that you have with Opera? I haven't had any redering problems so far, even Slashdot works fine. And it was smart enough to offer to save my Yahoo! password which the old version did not due (due to the HTML specifying that the browser should not do so). Still 100% on ACID3 but the animation is still not smooth.

DudeBoyz

DudeBoyz reviewed v10.0 Build 1219 Christmas Edition Alpha on Dec 22, 2008

Not a fan of it on the Windows side. Firefox is by far, the best Window browser out there, imo. Followed closely by Maxthon 1.6.x if you want to use the IE core.

HOWEVER, I believe that Opera is the single best browser for LINUX.

Opera on Linux has far superior font handling when compared to either Konq or Firefox.

It still has compatibility issues with some pages and layouts, but so does Firefox. It's all due to the crappy pages that were written primarily for IE and their lack of compliance with established standards.

Besides, Front Page ain't around any more, and those Front Page extension that got people all geeked up really seems to have become an orphaned platform. Sticking with official, open source, non proprietary extensions, coding, layouts, etc. is the best course, I think.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 19, 2008

Lowest rating for arbitrarily, capriciously AND WITHOUT PREVIOUS WARNING:

removing the ability to view and properly manage saved passwords.

What is the viable purpose now of Wand Manager.. showing login sites & user names, but no..?

Why, in the name of security? Doesn't make any sense-- the wand file can be copied over into any other system and viewed with a previous Opera version(or decrypted with whatever).

All that move accomplished was:

1. render Opera fairly useless: it's bad enough that it does not interface with Roboform(or even KeePass)..now this is the final nail in the coffin.
2. insult most users' intelligence
3. inconvenience everyone to no end-- for just to find out & confirm one cannot view the PW's anymore requires a long time of sleuthing in various settings areas, ask around in the web, etc.

Not a single other browser has this issue(or at least alternatives re other methods / independent freeware apps)!
But then again, this is par for the course for Opera-- do some things differently at the cost of interfacing / compatibility.

There are / were a grand total of two freeware apps for this purpose--
Opera_Password_Restorer does not have a working download server anymore,
the other one is cumbersome to work with-- and doesn't retrieve all of them.

The only alternative(freeware) is to use a previous Opera Portable release after copying the Wand file to its folder...apart from installing a previous Opera to hard disk of course.

Keep going down that ill-advised proprietary & non-standard path, Opera!!! It's already bad enough that you can't render all embedded multimedia sites-- LIKE ALMOST ALL OTHER BROWSERS CAN!!! Just keep piling on top of all that...

ljepava

ljepava reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 15, 2008

McAleck, you also didnt explain why did you gave 5. LOL

i have been using opera for 5 years. love it. i also use opera 9.5 on my HP Ipaq 214 PDA. it works almost as great as desktop version. tried all of browser, but i really loved two of them, Netscape Navigator 3.x and Opera, of course.

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 14, 2008

Karlo, you idiot! Do you know what a review means? Who the f*ck cares which browser you're about to test. I don't believe the kind of morons loitering around here.

karlo

karlo reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 9, 2008

I'm downloading it right now. Well, I've tried the latest BETA and ALPHA versions of Firefox and Google Chrome. Let's see what Opera's going to offer.

8189720

8189720 reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 9, 2008

What a great browser.

I've tried Opera when it was in version 6, and again in 7, but shortly after that it caught my attention and I was there to welcome it into version 8, later 9, and now 10. And what a great build version 10 is.

Understand now that this is still an Alpha build, but for what it is, it already has me using it as my main browser. I'm sure it has its faults and shortcomings, but it displays pages that only IE (and Firefox) could display properly in the past, it's quick, it works with my previous bookmarks (though some adjustments were necessary), and looks and feels like the great browser that I have come to know in version 9.x.

Overall, this is a superior browser compared to it's predecessors, and finally on par 100% with IE in terms of rendering pages. And this is only an Alpha...

neapolis

neapolis reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 7, 2008

On x64 Vista version 10 (alfa) is NOT 30% faster. It is actually a desaster. About 2-times slower with scrolling speed making it completely useless right now (on a Quad-core!). I hope they will work things out in time as I like Opera 9.62 very very much.
What's more - btw same as FF - Opera still has a major page-scrolling speed problem with position:fixed elements. I positoned two 10px colored divs on top and button of the viewport and everything worked perfect on IE7 and Chrome, while I hat to resign from this idea because of FF and also Opera. That's a shame. How usefull is supporting webstandards but not actually testing them for speed?

iamnotyou

iamnotyou reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 5, 2008

This is wicked fast.

Pages that, in the past, would cause Opera to choke are now no problem. "Old" Opera (ver. 9.5 to 9.62) took well over 60 seconds some of my largest pages ... they now load in less than 5 seconds. Kudos to Opera

There is still no keyboard short-cut to use the Z-key for "back" like in 9.23 or earlier Opera. It has been changed to Crtl-left_arrow for the past several versions. That is a major annoyance to me. I liked the one-hand/one-key operation not the two-hand/two-key operation. There are other changes to recent versions that I dislike but I hope to work through them.

Due to the extreme slowness of loading very large pages in the Opera 9.5 - 9.62 builds I started using Firefox. I like the Ad Block Plus, Flash Block and No Script extensions a lot. They add more value to me than the extra speed that Opera 10 brings. I know Opera can block content but it's a pain to keep clicking on the ads over-and-over-and-over again.

Alas, IE7 has some nice features too but I only use it when necessary ... and that 'aint often.

I used to pay for Opera when I found it back in the version 3.x days and still like many of its features. I give this a 3 with hopes that it will continue to improve. IE7 gets a 3 because it's worth a "little" more than just a 2. Firefox (IMHO) gets a 4. Each browser has features I like/use and each is lacking.

Thankfully we all have choices ... now, come on Google polish your Chrome a little more and lets see what you can do.

adrian47uk

adrian47uk reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 5, 2008

I noticed that Opera still have their stupid way of dealing with cookies, I could never get on with it, so that puts me off to start with.

Speed wise is not that much faster than Firefox, certainly not enough to turn me from firefox, the scroll pad on my Acer laptop did not work Opera either, and yet it works in every other browser.

Opera is not a bd browser, but it offers nothing that other browsers don't and with Firefox I can still use my extensions and add ons.

BTY, I still use Firefox 2 as I think it is a better browser than FF3.

dogbert0360

dogbert0360 reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 5, 2008

"THIS IS FREAKIN' FAST!!!"

Excellent browser that is way better than Google Chrome. But I did find one bug...

After trying it out, I did find one bug with Java web sites. When trying to access my e-mail at blueridgectc.edu, which uses Sun's Java e-mail client, the browser seems to hang for a very long time.

Hope this will be fix soon.

pjb

pjb reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 5, 2008

Great - love it. Really light and fast. :-)

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 5, 2008

Inline spelling checker

I can't believe that they finally got round to implementing the spell check feature.

Whilst the acid test compatibility is no small thing it is, imo, totally eclipsed by the spell checker.!

I just hope that it helps Opera to gain further support and usage, as it deserves.

pdail

pdail reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 4, 2008

Have used IE-8, and Fire Fox, and Opera. I just like Opera better. To each his own. But its hard to not just love this Browser. For a Alpha build, this is rock solid, on my Vista. Not one crash all day. IE-8, went down, 2 times yesterday. And its in Beta 2. Maybe, the Guy's and Girls, at Opera, can help Microsoft.

Living1

Living1 reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 4, 2008

Very fast!! I've tried all the beta's and this one is by FAR the fastest browser I have ever used to date. Have encountered a few sites that it will not render. I'm sure that will be corrected come release time. Great work thus far!!!

godofthunder

godofthunder reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 4, 2008

****"100/100 and pixel-perfect on the Acid3 test"

OMFG THEY ACTUALLY PULLED IT OFF!!!

MikeTechno

MikeTechno reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 4, 2008

Yet another excellent Opera release and blindingly fast this time. Very impressive on the quick page rendering. Now, if they can just implement a Screen Capture tool like Maxthon has done in their 2.1.x releases, this will be a nearly perfect browser. All things considered though, an great program. I put it on every computer I use. Oh and still the best copy and paste text parsing of any browser ever made. The only browser I use when copying text from a web page to pase into an e-mail. BRILLIANT!

coover

coover reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 4, 2008

The "Welcome to Opera" Home Page which comes automatically installed with this new version, has the word "videos" misspelled as "vidoes". Of course, this is not a browser fault, just a problem caused by the people Opera hired to write the webpage. I only mention this because the new browser has a built-in spell checker.

The browser is a 4. The webpage is a 1.

The reason I rate the browser a 4 ...

For quite a while. most of the major browsers, including Firefox, IE7, and IE8, have allowed a user to set more than 1 webpage as Home Page. I realize that Opera's Speed Dial allows fast access to other webpages than the one Home Page they allow, or that I could use another Opera feature that allows the unopened browser to be opened to all webpages that were previously opened when the browser was last closed. I have 4 webpages that I want to open with the browser, but do not (necessarily) wish to keep tabbed while I browse elsewhere. Additionally, the use of Speed Dial requires extra mouse clicks that would not be required if all the pages I have selected are tabbed when the browser is opened. Obviously, the Firefox and IE developers have not found multiple webpages for a Home Page a difficult problem, so I wonder why the Opera developers haven't added this feature. Without this feature, Opera 9 and 10 will both be rated 4 by me. With it, they would both be a 5.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 4, 2008

Nice! The spelling checker works, but a minor snit: only a US English dictionary is available so far as I could see. I had a quick look round the Opera dev site, but couldn't see a mention of others. Still it's only an alpha. The other tricks such as web fonts and improved SVG handling also looked fine, but not many sites will have them.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 4, 2008

- Inline spelling checker

It took years, but they finally did it... Thank the bejezus! :D

BelgianWaffle

BelgianWaffle reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 4, 2008

@iamnotyou: you know you can just customize the "z" key and program it to do whatever you want right? Go into tools, preferences, advanced and then click shortcuts.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 4, 2008

This is very exciting! 100% on the Acid3 test....

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v10.0 Build 1139 Alpha 1 on Dec 4, 2008

This one is really good, super fast on Javascript, inline spell check and best of all for us M2 mail users, total HTML support for composing. Good gets better.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.62 Build 10469 Beta on Dec 4, 2008

The first pre-alpha version of Opera 10 is out today!

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.62 Build 10469 Beta on Dec 2, 2008

All seems OK, I've tested some of the video and 3D animation elements and they worked fine, although Firefox gave me messages like "Decoder not found".

Not an issue really, but the installer seems uncertain which version is being installed; in some places it refers to Opera 10.0, in others to 9.62 (correct).

thartist

thartist reviewed v9.62 Build 10469 Beta on Dec 2, 2008

@horsecharles:
been long since i last read such a pack of nonsense, emphatic nonsense... absolute nonsense. who sold you that approach to truth about Opera? what bubble do you live in?

I haven't had a good experience with the latest interface (and skins are amateurish) and it features no *proper* ad-blocking solution so i always end up switching to FF... not ideal but, plugins help fill holes i care about the most.

Waiting for Opera 10, first alphas to be unveiled soon!

eaves

eaves reviewed v9.62 Build 10469 Beta on Dec 2, 2008

== it's a browser's responsibility to ensure interfacing with the rest of the world...it's NOT the world's / individual websites' responsibility to ensure interfacing with every browser esp. those with minor share ==

Not quite correct.

It is the responsibility of the individual websites to write standards-compliant websites.

And it is the responsibility of the browsers to properly render those standards-compliant websites.

Once you start, as you suggest, tying websites to browsers, then you start running into problems like websites rendering fine with IE6 but not rendering properly with IE7. At which point, the browser fanboy messages start appearing...

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.62 Build 10469 Beta on Dec 2, 2008

I really don't see how anyone can use Opera w/o having to switch to other browsers repeatedly.
Now, to be fair to Opera, this occurs with ALL browsers, even with IE(post v6 that is)... although not NEARLY to the same degree as Opera.
BUT>>>>at least with other browsers one can share most user / profile data-- so say-- one doesn't lose one's research placeholders-- links, history, logins, etc.

BTW Opera installer reports in two different
areas of same dialog box-- v 9.62 & v 10.00
And the old tired, excuse from Opera fanboys that their browser's standards / features are cutting edge / safer...and that individual websites are to blame for not getting with it-- doesn't wash:
it's a browser's responsibility to ensure interfacing with the rest of the world...it's NOT the world's / individual websites' responsibility to ensure interfacing with every browser-- esp. those with minor share.

IIIFFFF Opera wants to garner a bigger share of the pie, then:

1. Interface with Roboform(or at least develop a feature that regularly imports Robo data into Opera. AAAANNNNNDDDDDD: don't make it so difficult to view stored login info!!!!!!!!!!

2. EITHER utilize the same folders as IE for faves / history / autocomplete & fill / etc.
ORRRRR develop a utility / feature that periodically scans IE & Moz browsers for that data to import and sync.

It's that simple...a no-brainer.

OF course, that doesn't address widespread website incompatibility...but at least it's a start.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.62 Build 10469 Beta on Dec 2, 2008

10469 works just fine for me.

rseiler

rseiler reviewed v9.62 Build 10469 Beta on Dec 2, 2008

Note that this is NOT your regular Opera beta build. See here:
http://labs.opera.com/news/2008/11/25/

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.62 Build 10467 on Nov 2, 2008

Analphatester`s Halloween gift for all Opera users of the World !!!

HOW to make Opera 30-50% faster?
No more freeze, no more crash, no more failed render!
Simple.
Go to settings advanced and switch off cache in memory and disk.
tada

adamlau

adamlau reviewed v9.62 Build 10467 on Oct 30, 2008

An avid Opera user since 2.x. Fast, simple and infinitely customizeable. I am also a K-Meleon and K-Meleon CCF tweaker, and even so I notice the difference in page rendering speed with Opera in general. I rarely (though it happens) need to fall back to K-Meleon, or Firefox to display certain troublesome pages. Five out of five for being able to run at a footprint of under 10MB (opera.dll and OUniAnsi.dll UPX decompressed).

skapig

skapig reviewed v9.62 Build 10467 on Oct 30, 2008

Getting increasingly solid. Still chokes on large pages though during the rendering process. This is an ongoing problem with the 9.5+ engine.

Wintings

Wintings reviewed v9.62 Build 10467 on Oct 30, 2008

Good though Opera is, I am not using it until they include support for Roboform.

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v9.62 Build 10467 on Oct 29, 2008

@Sturgess:

Third? Can't you count?

Second.

I'm glad they're fixing things, personally.

LiLButterfly

LiLButterfly reviewed v9.62 Build 10467 on Oct 29, 2008

Sturgess I think we should be glad they are fixing the security problems. I give them a 4. It's a good browser but I do like my roboform.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v9.62 Build 10467 on Oct 29, 2008

Third security fix in seven days, will this now be a regular weekly thing does anyone know ?

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.62 Build 10467 on Oct 29, 2008

magnificent

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.62 Build 10467 on Oct 29, 2008

>>even though I b**** about plug-ins support, which is non-existent

Huh? Opera has pretty well the same plug-in support as the Mozilla browsers. Do you perhaps mean extensions, or add-ons?

Still working well for me.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.62 Build 10467 on Oct 29, 2008

What can I say, Opera is the best browser in my opinion. And even though I b**** about plug-ins support, which is non-existent, it has everything built-in. It works great too.

laptopy.net

laptopy.net reviewed v9.61 Build 10463 Final on Oct 22, 2008

What can i say....SUPERB!

ruemere

ruemere reviewed v9.61 Build 10463 Final on Oct 21, 2008

Opera spellcheck:
http://www.opera.com/sup...orials/opera/spellcheck/

Excerpt: "On Windows, Linux, and UNIX, Opera supports GNU Aspell. To spell-check with Opera, you need to install both GNU Aspell and at least one Aspell dictionary.

On Mac OS X, Opera uses the system spell checker. There is no need to install additional software."

Regards,
Ruemere

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v9.61 Build 10463 Final on Oct 21, 2008

9.61 is officially not out but in Opera's FTP and it runs swell as usual.

kraps

kraps reviewed v9.61 Build 10463 Final on Oct 20, 2008

9.61 isn't out yet!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.61 Build 10463 Final on Oct 20, 2008

Love the fast security updates and other fixes. The best browser.

pforbes

pforbes reviewed v9.61 Build 10463 Final on Oct 20, 2008

As all precedent versions, simply the fastest and the best browser.
Thank you for allowing us doublebooters to use it both under XP and Windows 98 SE.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.61 Build 10463 Final on Oct 20, 2008

Great release but I would like to see...

In-line spell check built in.
Option to not install mail or torrent feature
Small quirky rendering issues resolved - I report these as they occur.

I would have liked the ability to use the type of addon's that I have got used to using in FF, I guess that will not happen.

Ain Soph Aur

Ain Soph Aur reviewed v9.61 Build 10463 Final on Oct 20, 2008

@argybee
SRWARE IRON is a very good choice! small and VERY fast! ich use it too, but its not comparable to opera. opera is a real browser ;) with everything you can possibly need and it is highly customizable...

argybee

argybee reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 14, 2008

A very slick and tight piece of software which doesn't have quite the flexibility (via add-ons) that FF has but runs with much smaller footprint... but ... oh no... I just typed an address and pressed return and the whole thing disappeared!
Not quite right yet I guess. Think I will run with SRWARE IRON for a while...

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 13, 2008

Opera 9.6 is the best build of this browser. Improved memory usage, correct page rendering, very high speed. Absolutely no problems. Perfect browser.

Qlib

Qlib reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 13, 2008

I dont have any problems with sites rendering, however the "cant save opera6.adr" issue has returned whenever I have a few tabs open at the same time, bloody annoying.. thought they had fixed this..

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 9, 2008

Same problems with users below. Allot of sites I access don't render properly. Pass on this one.

calex71

calex71 reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 9, 2008

Usually I rate opera very highly hereas it does everything i need it to and haven't had major issues with it really.

However this build is an epic fail!

It is the same build as the RC so im wondering why they didnt spot the memory leaks then!!!!!
if you like me and leave it open all day it gobbles up memory over a relitvely short period,

on both xp and vista, and im not alone many others reported same on the opera forums.

Give this build a miss.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 8, 2008

I DONT BELIEVE IT !!! WORKING AGAIN multuple file save
:)
What happened?
I seeing Opera program workers hard working on multiple file save.
Thank You.
But not working ezactly same like 9.27.8841
this 960 final version working only after first file saved.
9278841 worked immediatly before sevad first file, not must waiting anything.
And slover cca 3-4x.
Please repair this two little bug.
Rating:5(high)

an Very Special thnks for NEW function
Multiple File Delete

Iam very very happy

flibberyGiveIt

flibberyGiveIt reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 8, 2008

Problem with "Hotmail" not allowing login on first
visit to livemail page seems fixed.

Here, first run of the day: Opera loads faster
than GChrome, and much faster than FF (which I've
loaded down with plugins so not a fair comparison)

The speed dial page is a great feature, allowing
one to start with a local list of often visited
pages instead of one on-the-web homepage. (True,
this is easy to do in the others, just write a
web page of your fave sites, and make a shortcut
that looks a tiny little bit like:
"c:\program files\browser name\file.exe" myfaves.htm

Jegar48

Jegar48 reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 8, 2008

Opera has always had issues with web sites. They still remain.............more junk

MarcFou

MarcFou reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 8, 2008

When sites dont render... Opera's fault or not. It just has to work. CSS and INI tweaking should not become the norm.

Issues I reported back in the 7.x days still remain. For a long time I used to recommend and rate Opera the highest.

ssb

ssb reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 8, 2008

As already said, Opera has both a spell checker and an excellent in-core implementation of ad-blocking.
What stopped me from rating it with five, are the many small annoying bugs, reported many times but yet unfixed.

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 7, 2008

It does have spell check and ad block.
Now, opera has issues with some websites, which is sad.

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 7, 2008

when it has spell check and Add block then it will be a 5

pdail

pdail reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 7, 2008

Just the "Best". I use this Browser, everyday, all day.Just a "Rock solid" Browser. I really like the clean look, and the speed. A 5, for sure!!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 7, 2008

A great browser. The few pages that still does not render properly are 99% of the time not Opera's fault. Bittorrent, great mail client, speed dial... nothing beats this.

stranded

stranded reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 7, 2008

My favorite browser since version 7.x

I don't think I will ever change my browser, I'm really liking OperaLink and integration with OperaMini.

ppinheiro

ppinheiro reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 7, 2008

Its Great!! 9.6 will rulez tem all. for me just a small thing needes to be fixed to make this my #1, I need roboform to work with Opera!!! PLease PLEASE!! :)

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 7, 2008

@sturgess:

This browser fulfils everything I need it to do as a web developer. It's really very robust and one of the best when it comes to web standards.

This alone sets it apart from all the other browsers I have tried (and I think I've tried pretty much all of them - as I have to test websites on most).

The 9.6 release is welcome as it stabilises what was started (but in my opinion not completed properly) in 9.5.

Since 9.5 it's worked with 99% of sites I have come across. It really was a massive leap in rendering quality, and 9.6 stabilises it.

In my eyes, deserves a 5.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 7, 2008

My favourite browser. I virtually never use anything else.

And for those who say Opera doesn't work with every site, have a look at Opera's ACID scores. And then think again what might be the reason for some sites not working properly.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 7, 2008

"get out more and try a few of the other browsers available" - such as (and don't bother mentioning Firefox or IE)?

Works fine - I have yet to find a browser I like better.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 7, 2008

Puzzled, is this the final or still a beta ? It works OK and I'll give it a 3, but nothing special, those who give it a 5 should get out more and try a few of the other browsers available.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 Final on Oct 7, 2008

Classic set up here ftp://get.opera.com/pub/opera/win/960/en/Opera_960_classic_Setup.exe

Same as RC2 i believe.

SoftwareTester

SoftwareTester reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 RC2 on Oct 6, 2008

Opera is my favorite web browser and i understand that everyone have there own opinion. but dont give out some stupid rating for just you cant find the feature you looking for, that not how you review it. idiot...

belthurgp

belthurgp reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 RC2 on Oct 6, 2008

My favorite and default browser. Yes, some sites are not coded per standard and they don't work. For those I use IE8.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 RC2 on Oct 6, 2008

the download size is actually 4.9MB and not 9MB as it sais...

Jegar48

Jegar48 reviewed v9.60 Build 10447 RC2 on Oct 6, 2008

I keep hoping and trying.......no improvement in rendering web sites properly.....still junk

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.60 Build 10443 RC1 on Oct 3, 2008

tutorial 1 for Opera programmrs
a open 9.27.8841 source code
b copy the working multiple file save code piece
c open next Opera source code like 9.60 RC2
d paste into the working code piece
its only simple or not?
tada :(

laptopy.net

laptopy.net reviewed v9.60 Build 10443 RC1 on Oct 3, 2008

Working smoothly . Opera is my default browser

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.60 Build 10443 RC1 on Oct 2, 2008

if it had spell check built in and Add Block it would be my default.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.60 Build 10443 RC1 on Oct 2, 2008

Finally RC1!! I dont think anyone has a clue about what analphatester is talking about.. Ive tried to ask him several times. Oh well.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.60 Build 10443 RC1 on Oct 2, 2008

Still have problems with flash. Right clicking on page with flash causes the flash to blank out. Getting better, but still plenty of bugs left, especially apparent when you read the Opera Desktop Team blog. BTW, can somebody please elaborate on what the heck analphatester is going on about with saving multiple files? I just don't get it. What's his bug and how am i supposed to recreate it, his reviews never give enough info for me to understand what the problem is.

laptopy.net

laptopy.net reviewed v9.60 Build 10439 Beta on Sep 29, 2008

Superb experience with www

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.60 Build 10439 Beta on Sep 28, 2008

Vimes: Might not be the correct stats, since other sources show quite a different picture.

Opera, August 2008: 2.1%. SOURCE: W3Schools

So it might not necessarily be THAT bad. Opera > *

Babayaga

Babayaga reviewed v9.60 Build 10439 Beta on Sep 28, 2008

Javascript engine is not as fast as Firefox but I love this browser!

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.60 Build 10439 Beta on Sep 27, 2008

multiple file save not working since 9.27.8841

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.60 Build 10439 Beta on Sep 27, 2008

@analphatester: works fine here. I can select multiple links; just click one and hold down shift button and then click on another link to select that range. WHY you would want to do that, I got no idea, you can only open one link at the time anyways... But its not a bug, and you have now written the same review over 10 times.
Time to move on, especially since there is not bug.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.60 Build 10439 Beta on Sep 26, 2008

When you see the size of the market that Opera gets...

IE 72.39%
Firefox 19.54%
Safari 6.27%
Chrome 0.77%
Opera 0.74%
Netscape 0.77%

Source: Net Applications

...it really is sad as when you have used it, and grown to realise that whilst it can have its quirks, it is a really good browser which deserves more exposure.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.60 Build 10439 Beta on Sep 26, 2008

good
many fixes in these release

skapig

skapig reviewed v9.60 Build 10439 Beta on Sep 26, 2008

Solid so far.

He's right. There is way more visual customization than you think and the functionality has been there for quite a long time. Perhaps why Opera doesn't tout it as it should be. All kinds of nice widget drag-and-drop action and plenty of attractive skins. You can get it to look just how you like.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.60 Build 10439 Beta on Sep 26, 2008

Amen to Blaxima, @DudeBoyz we can't guarantee a skin looking exactly like the one you linked to but i can assure the interface is infinitely more customizable than anything firefox or IE has to offer. Just right click on any of the tool bars, drag and drop buttons onto any of the tool bars or sufaces, customize the menus (via ini files), shortcuts, you can even create buttons out of commands. Check out the http://operawiki.info/Opera. Pretty much anything you can imagine you can do. With regard to this release i'm still getting problems with flash. In some instances the mouse pointer "subs" and flickers. Also right clicking anywhere on a page with flash causes the screen to blank. Doesn't happen all the time though. Annoying. Other than that these releases are getting way better than the disaster that 9.5x is/was.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.60 Build 10439 Beta on Sep 26, 2008

Dude I really think you should look into the browser a little more. Sure things don't come in the form of plugins but you can do alot more than you think with the interface.

Have a look at how my Opera looks, it's very clean and simple. http://customize.org/screenshots/60093 Custom buttons are the trick and you can get them here http://operawiki.info/CustomButtons. This is a far more robust browser than people think. You can use the status bar to put any buttons and bars you want to have the tabs bar be under it like in FF if you want. There really are alot of options people don't realise. An option I really love is that you can create custom searches with a simple right click in a search box on a site and it will be added just like that.

As for this release, Opera is really starting to get back on track but I still have some minor issues that my bug reports don't seem to get fixed. Seems to keep getting faster with each release

DudeBoyz

DudeBoyz reviewed v9.60 Build 10433 Beta on Sep 22, 2008

This product handles fonts better on Linux than Firefox does, and that's a very good thing. The pages that Opera renders on Linux look closer to what is rendered on Windows than just about every other browser I've tried. Konquerer included.

I genuinely wish that there was more flexibility in terms of the interface though. Tabs don't even really look / feel like tabs, for example.

And I would like to be able to put any interface feature in any order / location I want. Like how in IE 7 the address bar is at the top but I just want it to go back to how it looked in IE 6 for familiarity if nothing else.

I guess to try to give an example of what I would like to be able to see in Opera, I'd point folks to the Past Modern theme by Kuden:

https://addons.mozilla.o...n-US/firefox/addon/7249

It just has that clean, orderly look that I liked so much in the old Netscape days.

But all in all Opera is not a bad product and it is getting better. I just wish it was more robust and cutting edge, I guess.

I'd give it a 3.5 if that was an option. I'm just not convinced it deserves a full 4 at this point. But I'll keep an eye on things and hopefully it will improve in the near future.

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v9.60 Build 10433 Beta on Sep 22, 2008

Analphatester:

As asked before, please state how to reproduce this bug you speak of: "multiple file save not working"

Going to File > Save As... and choosing the type "HTML file with images" works fine for me.

If you are referring to saving bookmarks, I can go to my Bookmarks panel, choose multiple bookmarks (using shift), right click > File > save selected as.

From your previous post to "please put back the full perfectly working muliple file save code" it sounds like whatever functionality you are referring to has been removed and not a bug.

belthurgp

belthurgp reviewed v9.60 Build 10433 Beta on Sep 20, 2008

@someguy,

I believe you have never tested content blocker in opera. Please use it once and then comment.

Spell check, please...this is a browser...not a word processor...don't get confused with the primary purpose...

calex71

calex71 reviewed v9.60 Build 10433 Beta on Sep 20, 2008

@ Some Guy, ill give you the spell check point but opera's content blocker is just as good as ad block plus, especially if you use a custom url filter file like the one here http://www.fanboy.co.nz/

i have very few problmes with sites on this build but the issues with a site like youtube are just aweful, and im just tired of having to F5 the page if theres an embedded video to get it to play and the speed on yourtube itself is terrible.

no simple way to refresh all open tabs (im aware there is a way but its not simple)

built in sync working well here.

over all it works well but has a few simple issues or what we would think are basic things missing.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.60 Build 10433 Beta on Sep 19, 2008

I love Opera and I'm always finding new things about it that makes things easy to go along with its security. The speed of this release seems even snappier BUT I'm still encountering issues that I have made bug reports for that have yet to be fixed.

1) When saving images and renaming them Opera leaves out the extention and saves the file as nothing. I need to add the .jpg part on my own.

2)Some sites that worked in 9.27 for me have yet to work in 9.5x and 9.6

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.60 Build 10433 Beta on Sep 19, 2008

multiple file save not working after 9.27.8841

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.60 Build 10433 Beta on Sep 19, 2008

the best free, safe, fast, user-friendly and customizable browser ever

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.60 Build 10433 Beta on Sep 19, 2008

when you have a simple auto spell check and add block plus then you will be a 5

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.60 Build 10433 Beta on Sep 19, 2008

I love this browser.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.60 Build 10427 Beta on Sep 16, 2008

I have really tried to like this browser and found it useful when I was informed of a work around for the lack of in-line spell checker. However I get quite a few minor problems of the formatting being not quite right for some websites. It might only be a little but it is enough to make my browsing experience not be a good one. Getting Java to work correctly with some sites, as opposed to FF where once installed it works, has been very difficult. Even trawling through Opera's forums failed to help.
A good browser that, for me, doesn't meet my expectations at this stage.

belthurgp

belthurgp reviewed v9.60 Build 10427 Beta on Sep 13, 2008

Getting better with every release. This one is so fast !!...

Good job Opera !

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.60 Build 10427 Beta on Sep 12, 2008

Loooove the recently introduced RSS preview feature!!!

Ahhh, FF? Pleeeease...

stranded

stranded reviewed v9.60 Build 10427 Beta on Sep 12, 2008

Getting better. Still has some issues.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.60 Build 10427 Beta on Sep 12, 2008

It is do what it should do

ssb

ssb reviewed v9.60 Build 10427 Beta on Sep 12, 2008

Simply great!

SoftwareTester

SoftwareTester reviewed v9.60 Build 10427 Beta on Sep 12, 2008

great program , great feature, fast and reliable... have been use for many years.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.60 Build 10427 Beta on Sep 12, 2008

analphatester: your english is so bad I cannot understand what you are talking about. Can you tell me clearly how to reproduce the bug that you keep on talking about?

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.60 Build 10427 Beta on Sep 12, 2008

Multiple file save not working since 9.27.8841
How can I save 1374 links ?
Each individually ?

HA ???
primitiv idiots
go up tree

Zeropoint
mfs working for 10 years but not workig after 9.27.8841
understand?
this not alpha bug
only must copy working source code from v8841 to v10xxx
I just now using this version and working pefectly
I save 100 links about 30 sec

thinking man
after writing

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 11, 2008

Thanks for the link to the spellcheck utility :) A pity that Opera still can't do this.
I have now changed from Outlook to Windows mail Live and there is no problem from clicking hyperlinks and then Opera opening them.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 11, 2008

Some really nice new features, especially the Low Bandwith mode which I love using while abroad and using my cellphone as internet connection, it saves my cellphone bill quite a lot I would think.

godofthunder

godofthunder reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 11, 2008

@>>> ANALphatester

(_x_)

pjb

pjb reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 11, 2008

A nice improvement over previous versions.
Loads fast, and looks neat & clean.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 10, 2008

Why does this now look like it should be a java application loaded from a website? This interface is horrible. The black bar is big, bulky and misplaced. Does render pretty quickly though.

belthurgp

belthurgp reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 10, 2008

Has all the features I need including a kickass skin without installing one extension...that's what I hate about FF. You need to install a ton of extension to make it comfortable to use, if you grew up pampered by Opera.

On the IE side, Maxthon rules !

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 10, 2008

analphatester: oh my god are you going to post EVERY week rating a 1 with the comment "multiple file save not working". As others have said, do you understand the difference between release cycles? If you don't post Opera is the best browser ever, you post that it's crap and unusable. It seems you use Opera to copy web sites all day every day. You might want to consider a completely different application for those needs where you will be able copy sites/pictures without having to manually do it. You're right, Opera is useless in that regard.

These are reasons where I don't believe pre-releases should publicly available and eploited to everyone. We are living in a Beta world right now, heading to Alpha. I agree it helps get rid of a lot of bugs having that many testers, although it's putting the burden on ingornant users and causes bad reps.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 10, 2008

multiple file save not working

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 10, 2008

EVERYTHING I NEED IN ONE PLACE

pdail

pdail reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 10, 2008

Those of you that need a spell checker, might try, Tinyspell V1.7. It works just fine. Opera, is just going to get better, and better. They are doing some great things. Its not about catch-up, with Opera, but staying ahead.

The Seeker 11

The Seeker 11 reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 10, 2008

@some guy
Fanboy's Adblock List for Opera.

Also, for custom entries, simply right-click on a webpage and choose "Block content".

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.60 Build 10424 Beta on Sep 10, 2008

I used Fire fox cause of the add block plus but now Fire Fox fails to start version 301. Now Im back to opera.
2 things oprea you need.

1 spell checker like FF
2 Add block

you will be the best

skapig

skapig reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 9, 2008

Finally feeling like the stable, finished product 9.5 should have been.

Never been a fan of the default skin and layouts (though they have improved), but Opera has easy skinning and drag-and-drop layout customization. Probably something that they should do a better job of publicizing as many people judge it simply by the default.

belthurgp

belthurgp reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 8, 2008

Excellent browser. Highly customizable. Safe and Secure.

Most dangerous things come with unbelievable feature and offers. Chrome for example.

godofthunder

godofthunder reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 8, 2008

Keep it up!.

CHROME = SPYWARE
OPERA = SAFEWARE

YOU DECIDE!

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 7, 2008

Installer fails to do an upgrade in Vista. Same problem with the last few betas. Also no longer has the advantage of being the fastest most memory friendly browser.

Dreimanis

Dreimanis reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 7, 2008

great browser. as are firefox and ie.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 7, 2008

Chrome -seems to be a giant spyware, firefox - ok but somehow not for me, IE no comment, Safari - ehh.

But for me and my friends Opera is natural choice.
Speed and you can do anything what you like with your browser.

pforbes

pforbes reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 6, 2008

Excellent as always. Thank you for keeping it available for Windows 98 SE (double boot user).

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 6, 2008

hahaha, sturgess your funny seeing as this is what your last insightful review of this browser was;

"We appreciate the time given by the Opera users to always be here posting such riveting,detailed and thoughtful reviews of their browser. The dedication of these fine fellows having to find something interesting to say every single bloomin' day is impressive. I am still trying get the latest incarnation to work as well as the browser did in days long gone, that would be version 9.24. Now that was a browser to crow about this feeble effort is just that, feeble."

The Opera team need to get a grip of things. The 9.5x releases were a real regression from 9.27 and this release which is not a RC release but a RC for beta release (thats a new one) and they state that they are focusing on only bugs and not adding features and you know what, the bugs I have still remain. Many members on the forum have sent in bug reports but they don't seem to be addressed. Still a very good browser though and it's only dissappointing because I expect so much from it because of how high they have set the bar with this piece of software unlike over hypedware

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 6, 2008

Diam0nd and the gang appear here every time a new Opera arrives, the comments are pretty much the same, you've read one of their posts you have read them all. Perhaps these folk who rave about Opera could post a review which actually contains a little more substance. I use Opera, always have since it started, it is not my default anymore because it is not the best anymore, now a very distant third. This is a shame, this last offering I'll give a 3 for persistence if nothing else, and this offering has nothing else but that to recommend it.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 6, 2008

multiple file save not working since 927.8841
960.10421
-927.08841
=033.01580
this is the real Opera version number
Opera 0.33Build 1580
SHAME for all Opera programmers
The biggest shame for Opera all time

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 5, 2008

Keeps getting better and better, imho.

coover

coover reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 5, 2008

A minor, but very valid complaint ... ever time I "upgrade" Opera, I find the Opera Icon on my desktop. I don't use desktop Icons. I use Launch Bar Icons, so I am forced to delete the desktop Icon. Please, Opera developers, make the desktop Icon (and Launch Bar Icon) optional during installation. This is not difficult and would not add much code to the installer, but it would surely make the installation of Opera more pleasant.

CT2001

CT2001 reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 5, 2008

Opera needs to drop Widgets from the top menu bar, or allow a "Remove from Toolbar" choice. Some of us don't use Widgets and never will.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.60 Build 10421 RC1 on Sep 5, 2008

great ideas
quick browsing
all features i want are by default there

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.60 Build 10414 Beta on Aug 30, 2008

Opera programmers please put back the full perfectly working muliple file save code (F4-links panel-multiple file select with Shift) from 927.8841 to 960.xxxx.
Please, thank you.

Qlib

Qlib reviewed v9.60 Build 10414 Beta on Aug 29, 2008

bugs keeps the world moving forward, just look at how s***ty firefox is and they worship it like its perfect.. no wonder its gotten so stinky..

go opera go!

ssb

ssb reviewed v9.60 Build 10414 Beta on Aug 29, 2008

Nice but so many unfixed bugs!

It would be much better if Opera developers stopped adding new features and fix some of the long standing bugs.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.60 Build 10408 Beta on Aug 25, 2008

No inline spell check..!

Still got a problem with hyperlinks within Outlook mail using Vista 64, bug reported

Back to FF

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.60 Build 10408 Beta on Aug 24, 2008

Something for people who want something more from browser!

mickey89as

mickey89as reviewed v9.60 Build 10408 Beta on Aug 24, 2008

It's good to see progress in this usefull application.

Jegar48

Jegar48 reviewed v9.60 Build 10408 Beta on Aug 23, 2008

I tired this version after a long hiatus. Still junk.

jcunews

jcunews reviewed v9.60 Build 10408 Beta on Aug 23, 2008

The Opera 9.5+ should have never be released as Final. Many new annoying bugs are poping up everywhere. And the worst is that the bugs aren't relevant to the upgraded features. Even starting from the first 9.51 beta to 9.52 RC2, new (and irrelevant) bugs are still poping up. I'm starting to believe that the code is poorly structured and managed since version 9.5 beta. While the bugs are just minors, some of them are very annoying. But good thing is, it's much faster than 9.27 - especially the mail+news client and javascript. It's the main reason why I can't go back to 9.27. The only thing I can do now is to get the latest build as soon as it's available. I really want to give it full rating, but the annoyance is just ANNOYING.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.60 Build 10408 Beta on Aug 23, 2008

So you rate it a 2 star without actually trying it. 9.52 works much better than 9.27 in my opinion and if you are afraid of bugs stick with it and dont try the new beta 9.6 version although im using it right now and its working great so far.

eaves

eaves reviewed v9.60 Build 10408 Beta on Aug 23, 2008

Does Opera (greater than 9.27) work yet? I haven't seen a good working copy since version 9.27 was released.

Should I bother trying the 9.6 series beyond this beta? I tried the 9.60 beta and it was still problematic.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.60 Build 10408 Beta on Aug 23, 2008

Opera for Windows 9.60 Build 10408 Beta beta

It seems I testing only multiple file save not working bug.
Naturally not working in this version too.
Last perfect version 927.8841
Programmers trying to repair but the reason follow
the bug has new function, when I click multiple file save freeze the full Opera process not able to kill from task list.
Huhh, the bug growing, I dont believe this, unbelievable.
but first but first
separate install not working again only reapir and remove
must have testing n full clean installed operating system but no problem for me
but unbelievable why
this the biggest shame on Opera History
Opera programmers must be back the old working
code variable to new version
please
You are good guys

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.60 Build 10408 Beta on Aug 23, 2008

Wow! A jump to 9.6 and of 300 in the build numbers! See
http://my.opera.com/desk.../22/first-9-60-snapshot for new features.

gkar

gkar reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 22, 2008

Was using Opera back in the paid 6.x days then switched to Firefox. The Opera folks really have put together a very good browser in the 9.5x version. Opera seems faster and more responsive than Firefox. I'm back with Opera for now.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 21, 2008

I really like Opera, it has some small problem with the viewing of my email folders when using Yahoo mail - the folder view under "my folder" gets truncated together a little.

My biggest gripe is that Outlook 2007 can't open a hyperlink when Opera is selected as the default browser, giving the error message below...

http://img366.imageshack...hp?image=outlookal3.jpg

Using either FF or IE as the default browser gives no such problem.

I'm using Vista 64, if that is applicable.

Visiting the Opera support forums I see that I'm not alone in this and a bug report has been submitted.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 20, 2008

When this was on BetaNews as build 10107 a couple of days ago, I, and several others, got 10108 instead. I assume I don't need to redownload; the filename of the installer is the same.

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 20, 2008

"back" command now working on first invoke, rather than 2, 3, or more. This was a quite an annoying bug.

Fixed an issue with history navigation: an iframe with document.write is not added to history anymore

aszure

aszure reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 20, 2008

I have been, and always will be a FF user. However, this is a very nice browser and a great alternative to IE. Not to mention the fact that there's a mini opera for pda's. If you're not hip on FF, and hate IE, this is the browser for you.

skapig

skapig reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 20, 2008

Not as polished as it should be. Still holds many of the same regression bugs that have been plaguing the 9.5x releases. There are some nice improvements, but it has quite clearly been rushed out. They are gradually being fixed in the post-9.50 releases, but not fast enough.

My major issues are that it chokes during the load of large pages and crashes more often than any other Opera release that I've dealt with over the years.

ssb

ssb reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 20, 2008

I wish I could rate it with five. Unfortunately I cannot with so many known but unfixed bugs.

pforbes

pforbes reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 20, 2008

Excellent work. Thank you for keeping compatibility with Windows 98. I keep using my dear "oldie" to backup/restore XP using a second main partition (cleaner, faster and more secure than the recovery console if your machine has an ATA drive and units under 32 GB).

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 19, 2008

This hurts me to say but the 9.5x series while being everything Opera has been as far as light on memory, feature packed, safe and now really really fast has been a huge dissappointment for me. All kinds of regressions keep popping up and now with this build the save image bug I had with the first 9.50 release is back. I have to add the .jpg to image files when I save and rename them. It aslo just doesn't play nice with Google stuff like gmail and maps

Still my favorite browser by a mile but these regressions are getting frustrating

and this is the final release

coover

coover reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 19, 2008

I'm curious.

Is there a difference between 9.52 Build 10108 RC2 that came out yesterday and 9.52 Build 10108 that came out today? Both are the same build, so I assume they found the release candidate without any major bugs that jeopardize the users much or show up frequently and decided to remove the release candidate designation?

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 19, 2008

belthurgp, good points, except that Firefox is intentionally built for modularity. It stays lean and mean if you don't want/need those extensions. Still, I'd rather use Opera any day because of its power and customizability. (The Linux version works exactly like the Windows version, so there's no learning curve.)

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 19, 2008

That's just it. Opera has so much included but 80% of what is there is only half-baked. They are features added just to say "We did it first" and then left to stagnate. The wand is an example (still doesn't support bank of america military bank properly, despite being reported on their forums and via email to the devs since v7.0). Opera doesn't include any sort of auto-complete function minus using the notes field which is just a pain in the rear. If I am that worried about someone stealing my auto-complete text, then I will clear it. Give me the option! Plus, in the wand, you cannot EDIT a password if you say, oh I don't know, CHANGE IT? Yes, this revolutionary browser can't even get basic functionality down right but oh yes, they can get widgets (The most useful feature ever imagined), built-in torrent support, and the speed-dial.

Oh yeah, I am limited to what the developers feel is good enough. I can not extend the browser by adding third party addon's or code to the browser to allow it to perform a task that I might have. Every other browser, minus safari, allows this. Even lynx, the text browser, can do this. I yearn for the days of an API.

2/5 until these blaring holes in functionality are fixed.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 on Aug 19, 2008

belthurgp: now that was SO SO well-said!

belthurgp

belthurgp reviewed v9.52 Build 10108 RC2 on Aug 18, 2008

Good build considering it's a RC2. Yeah, I have noticied that we are unable to log into some sites..

Seriously, Opera comes with so much features by default, FF should bow its head in shame. You can't do anything more than the basic in FF without thirdparty extensions.

guti

guti reviewed v9.52 Build 10107 RC1 on Aug 17, 2008

9.52 RC2 is ready at http://my.opera.com/desk...8/08/15/opera-9-52-rc-2

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v9.52 Build 10107 RC1 on Aug 17, 2008

To many old bugs not fixed.

- 100% of cpu usage when navigating some pages offline (this problem is there since v9.2)
- 100% of cpu usage when shows finished tranfers notifications
- Problems to log in in yahoo mail and many forums (no problem with FF)

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.52 Build 10107 RC1 on Aug 16, 2008

952 1017
separate install working again +1
multiple file save working BUT must check target directory for each file +1
taht means save 100 file about half an hour -1

results 2
not an Olympic record
shame for Opera

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.52 Build 10107 RC1 on Aug 15, 2008

Excellent build, eagerly awaiting 9.52 Final now....

pdail

pdail reviewed v9.52 Build 10107 RC1 on Aug 15, 2008

Yes, this is Build 10108, and yes, it works just fine, so far. I think the last Build, crashed on me, only 2 times. Not sure why. It was before, MS big update. So who knows? Just love the speed, of this Browser. Still, just as easy as Mom's Apple Pie, and a Chevy!!

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.52 Build 10107 RC1 on Aug 15, 2008

Works very well. I've no complaints about this build at all (so far!).

belthurgp

belthurgp reviewed v9.52 Build 10107 RC1 on Aug 15, 2008

Was using opera 5 years back ( 3.5 I think ) before moving onto Maxthon...been with Maxthon all along thru 2.1.3 ( latest ), but had enough of sluggishness...

Moved back to Opera and I am happy. Works with most of the sites I regularly visit.

Features wise, nothing can come close.

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v9.52 Build 10107 RC1 on Aug 15, 2008

Catch up BetaNews; RC2's out already.

exit

exit reviewed v9.52 Build 10107 RC1 on Aug 15, 2008

9.52 10108 is the one that I have
and another outstanding build

schmen

schmen reviewed v9.52 Build 10103 Beta on Aug 9, 2008

@analphatester: you freak, before stupidity kills the cat -> http://en.wikipedia.org/...release_life_cycle#Beta
this idiotic ratings should be deleted rigght away.

opera is fast, small, secure and dont forget that it has a complete email client build into it!

good work opera team.
here is the blog: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ with newest BETA releases.

cheers

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.52 Build 10103 Beta on Aug 9, 2008

multiple file save not working
last working version 927 8841

setup not able install new separate directory
only repair or remove
opera programmers went to wrong way this
famous and lovely project
its shame

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.52 Build 10103 Beta on Aug 8, 2008

Excellent, fast, secure browser. Use it everyday.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.52 Build 10103 Beta on Aug 8, 2008

Love it. FF is a good #2, but still, doesnt offer anything more than support for plugins.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.52 Build 10100 Beta on Aug 1, 2008

Absolutely brilliant build. Slashdot disappearing comment bug has been fixed. i'm tempted to use this over 9.51 stable.

pdail

pdail reviewed v9.52 Build 10100 Beta on Aug 1, 2008

This has been, my main Browser, now about 3 weeks. It's far more stable than IE7, and works a heck of a lot faster! It is just amazing how good this browser is. And the Tabs, and Bookmarks,in the way you can, set them up, is just as easy as Moms apple Pie! And Opera, has there own community, that you can join, and talk to others, that are enjoying Opera to. Try it, I think you wont be sorry you did.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.52 Build 10100 Beta on Aug 1, 2008

Works flawlessly, as always.

netean

netean reviewed v9.52 Build 10100 Beta on Aug 1, 2008

all through the 9.5 beta cycle (which was long) I stuck with Opera, and was impressed by the improvements. for me it was stable and compatability with site was never a problem.

installed the final version of 9.5 and it all went wrong. Won't startup properly, just sits hidden using 35% processor and never displaying the program window. - Numerous complete re-installs have failed to fix this.

when it works, it rocks (still wish it had stumbleupon) though!

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.52 Build 10092 Beta on Jul 21, 2008

In defense of Opera..it IS improving...

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.52 Build 10092 Beta on Jul 20, 2008

The 9.5x versions are starting to imo get out of the beta stage. This is far from a 1* peice of software with its speed, security and funtionality with such a small footprint only a fanboy of something else could be so non-objective. Updating is a problem still as I have to lose my profile folder in order to get things that didn't work in a previous release work with the newer ones. This will no doubt be a 5* browser again for me once the little mistakes are ironed out

Even with the few problems this blows away every other browser and it really makes me laugh at how slow and memory hunger others are yet people will delude themselves into saying that this is slow. What ever you guys are smoking, me too please

Young Boys Bern

Young Boys Bern reviewed v9.52 Build 10092 Beta on Jul 19, 2008

It *looks* much nicer than it actually *is*.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.52 Build 10092 Beta on Jul 19, 2008

multiple file save not working

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v9.52 Build 10092 Beta on Jul 18, 2008

It's a pity betanews doesn't have a description field for a program changelog.

Anyway here it is: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.52 Build 10092 Beta on Jul 18, 2008

@eaves: Im sorry to tell you every software has bugs, especially with a new release. Now you can argue with people if u want to about how ready 9.5 was for launch, but you cannot argue how quickly bugs has been fixed. See how long time it took firefox to come up with 3.0.1?

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.52 Build 10092 Beta on Jul 18, 2008

Opera 10 should be great
the brst browser for my need now
however there are some bugs...

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.52 Build 10092 Beta on Jul 18, 2008

Works for me in 99.9 of cases.

And it really IS the fastest browser on earth ;|

eaves

eaves reviewed v9.52 Build 10092 Beta on Jul 18, 2008

I have to reneg on my previous statement that the quality is getting better.

I'm going back to 9.27. This 9.5 series has pretty poor quality, far too many regressions.

eaves

eaves reviewed v9.52 Build 10089 Beta on Jul 14, 2008

The 9.5 series is slowly getting to production quality.

Replying to Daddy-spank - it is not impressive that so many bugs have been fixed since the 9.50 release. The 9.50 release should have been held back, or at least made into the beta-level release that it was. Here we are at 9.52, and there are still significant regression issues compared to 9.27.

Where, oh where, is Opera's quality control department?

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.52 Build 10089 Beta on Jul 13, 2008

multiple file save not working

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.52 Build 10089 Beta on Jul 13, 2008

a more stable release (sorry beta)
than the previous release

ailef

ailef reviewed v9.52 Build 10089 Beta on Jul 12, 2008

this browser is really great, people should test it cause not IE or FF are able to offer the same possibilities.
i really don't understand why this great piece of software is not used that much, IE is needed to update windows but except that opera got so many features that it must be tested by all.
forget FF.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.52 Build 10089 Beta on Jul 11, 2008

@Anal: did you file a bug report? And did you try this on more than one computer? I could NOT reproduce this bug on my computer. (Vista 32bit)

That aside, this new beta has many stability fixes and other improvements, pretty impressive considering Opera 9.50 final was released less than two weeks ago...

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.52 Build 10089 Beta on Jul 11, 2008

analphatester: you really are an anal-phatester. I love how people rate a program 2 for saving a picture bug. lol

Best browser ever!

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.51 on Jul 8, 2008

I very big error found in opera 951
save webpage pictures on F4 minipanel links
eg. 10 pictures right click save as ...
1st picture waitng reading file tree, waiting fresh about 1 or2 min.
2nd picture waitng reading file tree, waiting fresh about 1 or2 min.

10th picture waitng reading file tree, waiting fresh about 1 or2 min.
all time about 20-30 minutes !!!!!
10 pictures !!!!!!!
unbelievable totally unuseable

on 927
right click on 10 links
save as ...
1 ok
2 ok

10 ok

about 8-10 seconds

this is a biggest bug since 10 years
thats 1 low
sorry for opera and the hard work
very beautiful and highest speed
and I love this project
but its true

CT2001

CT2001 reviewed v9.51 on Jul 6, 2008

Not in a hurry to download 9.51, because 9.50, when uninstalled, left some "Auto Play" junk in the registry that had to be manually cleaned out. No thanks. Sticking with 9.27 for now.

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v9.51 on Jul 6, 2008

5 for the big improvement over the previous version,,

still it's very annoying to use it in work specially with NTLM authentication, for every link I have to enter user id and password,, ???

Firefox 3 is even better than IE6,7 in this area,,

The best thing in opera that I can control disabling images for each tab alone which is only supported in Opera,

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v9.51 on Jul 4, 2008

I like the new interface of Opera, so, today I installed Opera (9.51) again. The pages at deviantArt now are displayed correctly. When I was opening the DA pages (with Opera 9.50, cause I don’t like to test betas) the page-add at the header (top) was placed right in the centre of the page and I was unable to see the content. You may see the same “effect” if you open now the homepage of the Orbit downloader. There are some more websites where you can see the same problem.

So, now 5 for good interface and speed.

aepasa

aepasa reviewed v9.51 on Jul 3, 2008

Only wish if a new tab plus sign is not [only] on the right side [scalable, so I have visualy to search for a button], but also on the left side [fixed, so I don't have to guess iT's position]!
Thanks

exit

exit reviewed v9.51 on Jul 3, 2008

This build wont allow me to sign into the basic
hotmail

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v9.51 on Jul 2, 2008

Fast, light, secure and runs without glitches with a nice slick interface. Handles mail, RSS, news and torrents, its the best all in one client out there.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.51 on Jul 2, 2008

Well I can't see what Alexander is saying because DevArt loads for me without any troubles and it did so with 9.50 too. I certainly can't see or believe that FF is the same or faster because that has never been my experience and the difference in speed now is even greater. There are some sites that cause hiccups though but I don't come across them like I used too.

With that said 9.50 was a great step forward but wasn't ready to be released. It gave better speeds while having so many built in features and still lighter than the others while being the safest BUT it also introduced some new flaws that definately impacted the browsing experience. 9.51 has corrected all of my concerns thus far. Good job by the Opera team jumping to fix it as quick as they did.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WANT THE TRAY ICON
To remove the tray icon, you need to edit the shortcut used to start Opera, at the end of the command add /notrayicon
-credit goes to sgunhouse for the tip-

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v9.51 on Jul 2, 2008

i sorta kinda see what al's saying. most of us don't care what's under the hood, we just want web pages to render correctly. but i also see what opera is saying, conform to standards, and everyone's browsing experience will be lighter, faster, and most of all, the browser should be invisible, rather than a hassle. opera is light on the computer resources, works out of the box, and does everything i need it to do. great browser.

Satansgeek

Satansgeek reviewed v9.51 on Jul 2, 2008

While I'm happy to give the product a high rating this particular download appears to have a corrupted cab file and thus be unusable.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.51 on Jul 2, 2008

Alexander-GG: Just so you know, Opera gets one of the highest scores on the ACID test. So it's devianrt's fault that they pages don't load correctly, not Opera's.

birkis

birkis reviewed v9.51 on Jul 2, 2008

@Alexander-GG >> Why should you care? If your wrench does not fit the bolt because the bolt manufacturer chose to deviate from the standard... Is that the wrench manufacturer's fault? Who would you complain to?

Both Opera and Firefox are excellent browsers. I use Opera because I love the speed, the customizability, the keyboard shortcuts, the mouse gestures - all directly out-of-the-box.

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v9.51 Build 10081 RC3 on Jul 2, 2008

I just uninstalled Opera. The only thing I want from the browser is to be fast and correct. Opera can't open the web pages correctly. You should reload deviantArt pages several times to see its content properly. I do not care who's fault it is - Opera team or Web developers. Why should I care?

Yes, Opera is fast, but I cant see a big difference between Opera and FF. Maybe FF is even faster. I'm not a fan of any kind of browser. I just see, that Opera doesn't work as the good browser should.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.51 Build 10081 RC3 on Jul 2, 2008

@brusco yeah but myspace is one of the most visited websites out there, so opera shoudl be able to display the site corretly! even ie6 is able to handle the new myspace dopdown menu!
with this newer builds i can't even write articles on wordpress blogs!
i realy love opera, it's the only browser i use ... but it starts to suck ... i don't wanna open ie or ff everytime i want to use my myspace or wordpress account0

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v9.51 Build 10081 RC3 on Jul 1, 2008

We appreciate the time given by the Opera users to always be here posting such riveting,detailed and thoughtful reviews of their browser. The dedication of these fine fellows having to find something interesting to say every single bloomin' day is impressive. I am still trying get the latest incarnation to work as well as the browser did in days long gone, that would be version 9.24. Now that was a browser to crow about this feeble effort is just that, feeble.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.51 Build 10081 RC3 on Jul 1, 2008

Simply adore this browser. FF might have pluging, and that's great and all. But Opera is WAY faster, doesn't look like it's written on java, and has MOST of the things I need by default.

Still though: what matters for me is the speed.

iamnotyou

iamnotyou reviewed v9.51 Build 10080 RC2 on Jul 1, 2008

After doing a clean install Opera (to a fresh installation of windows that had never seen Opera nor any other non-Windows included software) there is still a major freeze for 20+ seconds when I go to very large web pages (about 20 taps of PAGE DOWN to get from top to bottom). This freeze does not happen with FireFox3, but does happen with IE7 (alas, IE7 is even worse). Maybe a future release can fix this issue.

I am still peeved at other "changes" Opera made, especialy on the keyboard navigation.

Here's hoping for a better 9.5x

skapig

skapig reviewed v9.51 Build 10080 RC2 on Jun 30, 2008

So far seems to fix a number of the glaring issues in the rushed 9.5 release. Seems a lot more stable. Still some rendering work to do, but that's to be expected from such a major engine rewrite (in a point release?).

One complaint: I'm not liking the forced taskbar icon or am I not seeing where the setting for it is? They hide settings all over the place.

brusco

brusco reviewed v9.51 Build 10080 RC2 on Jun 30, 2008

@nms04,
As Opera is one of the most standards compliant browsers around I would hazard a guess that the fault lies with the MySpace site developers. To dock Opera a point because of this proves that you are clueless when it come to the web. (That fact that you use MySpace at all also gives this away.)

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.51 Build 10080 RC2 on Jun 29, 2008

World Wide Web in seconds! It's do what it should do. Trying Firefox ( be with girl without sex) ) Safari ( other skin with no much dev.)

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.51 Build 10080 RC2 on Jun 28, 2008

new myspace menu on top of the website still not working

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.51 Build 10080 RC2 on Jun 27, 2008

RC1 didn't do anything for me but this release has fixed the issues I had with Gmail and the Block Content option

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.51 Build 10080 RC2 on Jun 27, 2008

del.icio.us bookmarking fixed! yay!!!!

Opera > *

Fast. Flexible. Secure

Change log: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

shroom

shroom reviewed v9.51 Build 10080 RC2 on Jun 27, 2008

You can find the changelog here :
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

On my happy list too :p

ejanzzen

ejanzzen reviewed v9.51 Build 10080 RC2 on Jun 27, 2008

Opera has been on my install happy list for years.
Where do I find a changelog though?

capandjudy

capandjudy reviewed v9.51 Build 10074 RC1 on Jun 26, 2008

Back button navigation problems persist i.e. on some web pages you can't go back to the previous page with a mouse click. Opera 9.5 seems to still be in beta if not alpha which is too bad because there is a lot to recommend this browser otherwise.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.51 Build 10074 RC1 on Jun 26, 2008

only a week after 9.50 release opera team is already working on 9.51. And its improving.

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.51 Build 10074 RC1 on Jun 25, 2008

good stuff

coover

coover reviewed v9.51 Build 10074 RC1 on Jun 25, 2008

One small complaint ... certainly not enough to downgrade it. The application deserves a 5 ...

Why, after installing each new version of this browser, do I find a new Opera shortcut on my desktop? I realize it only takes a couple of clicks to delete it, but since I have already placed an Opera shortcut on my Launch Bar, the shortcut on my desktop is unnecessary. It irritatingly blocks a small portion of the beautiful photograph I have placed on my desktop and it is unwanted.

Please, Opera developers, please give us an option during installation to not have that shortcup placed on the desktop. Please, please, please.

Opera is still a 5.

MarcFou

MarcFou reviewed v9.51 Build 10074 RC1 on Jun 25, 2008

I have to give this a 1. People who report problems/errors rate this app a 5?

"BUT del.icio.us bookmarking issue introduced a few builds ago still not fixed..:( "

Opera has far too many problems to get a good rating here. FF is another over-rated application and has its faults in different areas from Opera.

I would like to see Opera have better page rendering, less regression, improvements to the existing features instead of adding new (semi functional things).

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.51 Build 10074 RC1 on Jun 25, 2008

IPROVELENCE why don't you enlighten us for a change with why exactly this browser deserves a 1.

Is it the 5x smaller footprint than your ff?
Is it all the features that come standard that ff plugins try to mimic?
Is it the passing of Acid test?
Are the start up and rendering speeds too fast?

Please, enlighten us with something worth while rather than your useless posts here that are far too numerous. To say that it doesn't perform as good as its fanbase is a comment that belongs in a review for your overhyped and truely poor performing browser.

http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/

But you don't have to take my word for it. Just look at the reviews for your browser and see all the dissapointment in its broken promises.

Now for a useful review
9.5 adds to the already safest browser with better speeds which blow away crap like ff and it has many featuers standard like a built in torrnet client, mail client and other nice little tricks. As I said before it is very lightweight aswell BUT I had some issues with 9.5. First was the fact that the Block Content feature would preven the browser from working at all which could be fixed but wasn't an issue with 9.27. I'm hoping that this release fixes that aswell as the save file thing that was done for safety but is a pain to have to add a .jpg or .pdf to the files you download. I say hope because I use Opera USB and that hasn't been updated yet so I will keep my fingers crossed that the issues raised by the Opera community are addressed with 9.51.

The 5 is to offset the idiots who are not helpful to any of us but while 9.27 deserves that rating the bugs that have popped up make this a 4

BarneyR

BarneyR reviewed v9.51 Build 10074 RC1 on Jun 25, 2008

Excellent browser - no problems here.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.51 Build 10074 RC1 on Jun 25, 2008

this browser does not perform as well as it's fan base would have us to believe.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.51 Build 10074 RC1 on Jun 25, 2008

Excellent!

BUT del.icio.us bookmarking issue introduced a few builds ago still not fixed..:(

paulm84

paulm84 reviewed v9.51 Build 10074 RC1 on Jun 25, 2008

i've been using 9.5 since it's release and i've had no prpbelms ....i do have little hiccups now and again on sites ( moslty myspace) but other then that smooth sailing

maddy143ded

maddy143ded reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 23, 2008

hey i dont know what they did wrong in the new Opera 9.50, but it crashes like hell, even Internet explorer doesnt crash so much,
i have been using opera as my primary browser for 6 years now and i have seen it crashing so much only some times. hope they rectify it.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 22, 2008

@MarcFou: Can you show me examples? (URLs)

Wildhack

Wildhack reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 20, 2008

MarcFou - "Still many pages/sites that wont [sic] render properly." I very rarely encounter one. When I do I realize that because some webcrafters will use MSIE proprietary code, it isn't Opera's fault that they have trouble rendering it when they follow the agreed-upon standards.

MarcFou

MarcFou reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 20, 2008

Opera remains a disappointment. Still many pages/sites that wont render properly. As always Opera releases a major version then a quick followup release to fix the simple things they neglected the first go around.

The email client needs some help.

Edit: Dosent matter who's fault it is pages dont render. The fact remains that if a page dosent display, the browser is of no use to me. In the end thats what matters.

arjesus

arjesus reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 20, 2008

Wow, this new version fix the only bug i notice in Opera: use the navigation button in DeviantArt website.

BarneyR

BarneyR reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 20, 2008

No problems here - excellent as usual.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 20, 2008

gets better and better

FailedCRC

FailedCRC reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 20, 2008

Still a great browser, always has been. It still gets beaten out by firefox due to noscript and adblock plugins.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 20, 2008

MikeTechno: totally agree with you.

And to all the people saying that FF is better: try measuring the start up time of opera against ff, page load times. Opera is CLEARLY faster. WAY faster.

And for those "it crashes on me" people, well, it doesnt. Used 9.50 since its early alphas/betas, crashed only a few times.

MikeTechno

MikeTechno reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 20, 2008

Just tested this new 10071 build on my system against both the new FF v3.0 final and the pre-release Minefield (Firefox) alpha v3.1a1 and it beats both of them on both start up times and page loads. I don't know how fast the new Safari 4.0 release will be when it comes out but this new Opera version is easily the fastest browser I have seen so far. The boys over at Opera are really getting their act together very tightly these days it looks like. An impressive browser indeed. When you consider that this is consistantly the most secure browser on the market, year after year after year, it is hard to beat for sure.

manogamez

manogamez reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 20, 2008

Since a few of the reviewers below me seem to think that they can give a "1" without a good reason, I think that warrants a "5" for no reason.

Just read this:
http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/

jafo818

jafo818 reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 20, 2008

It does feel a bit snappier than Firefox 3 on my home desktop (an older computer). But I'm too used to Firefox and extensions to switch. I used Opera for several years before the early Firefox betas came out, and haven't looked back. It's still an excellent browser, looks beautiful, and is very fast.

I'll stick with tete009's optimized Firefox builds. :)

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.51 Build 10071 Beta on Jun 20, 2008

@etalmar: Im not sure what you mean by copy and paste buttons but ctrl+c and ctrl+v works prety well for me, in addition to the right click menu of course.
Also, editing bookmarks from the bookmark menu is a nobrainer, im not really sure you know what you are talking about actually....

etalmar

etalmar reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 20, 2008

The current version (9.50) is certainly better than its predecessor, but it is still severely lacking several basic features, such as cut, copy and paste buttons. Also, there is no way to revise bookmarks via basic right-click option. You have to click the open bookmarks tab and edit bookmarks the long way, which is tedious and shows poor development.

It never ceases to amaze me how these alleged software "architects" fail to keep basic browser features intact!

If they would spend less time bashing IE and more time trying to actually develop a browser that is truly comparable to IE 6, many of us would be very happy to gladly use their new products every day.

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 19, 2008

smoothest working of them all, but still lacking oh so many crucial features

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 18, 2008

@Blaxima:

How is pointing out the shortcomings of a sub-par browser spamming? I'm not sitting here saying "Oh! go use IE or Oh! Go get Firefox. I am merely saying Opera sucks, I have said that for a long time and until it doesn't suck I will continue to do so. Opera sucks.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 17, 2008

Using for some time, no problem at all. It's do what it should be!

CT2001

CT2001 reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 16, 2008

I also tried 9.5 it for a few days, had problems with large downloads repeatedly freezing my desktop, also trouble rendering several websites, so returned to 9.27. I'll play it safe and wait for 9.54 or so. ;-)

tewa

tewa reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 16, 2008

after a couple of days usage of 9.5, i just went back to 9.27. it crashed a couple of times, and caused 100% cpu during startup, and eventually it went showing opera is running in the task manager but no where to be seen on the desktop during the startup.

i would suggest to wait for 9.51 or later.

eek-1

eek-1 reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 16, 2008

I thought Thunderbird 2 was good but today I went back to Opera mail since TB2 started to corrupt my mails because of compacting and its awfully weak spam filter. Bye bye TB2.

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 15, 2008

Still buggy. In certain occasions in offline mode navigating through the history takes 100% of CPU. Opera 9.5 should have remained in beta stage another couple of weeks. I'll return to 9.2x.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 15, 2008

Firefox is for dummies that follow tons of advertisement and other publicities garbage, Opera rules!

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 15, 2008

FF 3 Final sucks! Opera in all version allways beat all other browser in Security and Velocity, this version (that still need some work) is all way better that Firefox

cowgaR

cowgaR reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 15, 2008

hmm...still a browser from developers that do not get enough sun in their lives...

to understand how the browser should look like...

got like 20 gripes with old version, got 30 or so here ;)

still a browser just for an average joe, professionals use Firefox, nothing beats its platform and javascript support (which opera lacks badly!)

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 15, 2008

I agree this release was a little rushed, but overall still the best (yes, even better than FF3 final!)

Everyone, ****make sure you start with a FRESH install of Opera***. Most of the problems I had involved my previous settings!

Make sure you keep your opera.adr, wand file, be weary of the keyboard settings.

iamnotyou

iamnotyou reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 13, 2008

I was hoping for more/better.

In my limited use of 9.5 so far the lack of using the Z key to move back a page (now it’s Ctrl+ left arrow) and the slower speed (Opera locks up for several seconds to load large web pages that were not a problem with 9.27) are annoyances I choose to not live with … version 9.27 will be re-installed and I will wait for 9.51 to try it again.

I have been using Opera as my preferred web browser since 3.x when it had to be purchased. My results from 12 hours of using 9.5 do show promise … it’s not a needed update, in my opinion.

Znoo

Znoo reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 13, 2008

Oops... this release seems a little rushed.
There's a some nice new features in the v9.5 but you can't detach tabs (drag tab to desktop) anymore like in v9.27.

I'm going back to v9.27 and will be looking forward to the improved v9.51 (?)

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 13, 2008

"In reality this is Beta 3 masquerading as a final, and if FF3 wasn't shipping next week, Opera would never have rushed the end of the beta to ship this week." > +1

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

too much site incompabilites. New skin is beyond ugly. tad slower than ff3. However, much more convinient to use.

victor4461

victor4461 reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

other then a new color scheme i don't see any new features...for many months now i have noticed that i try to play the media player in www.esnips.com it doesn't seem to work...also noticed that they havent yet integrated feature to save passwords like firefox.. not quite yet a 5 star webrowser

rseiler

rseiler reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

In reality this is Beta 3 masquerading as a final, and if FF3 wasn't shipping next week, Opera would never have rushed the end of the beta to ship this week.

For example, who introduces a new interface the week before you ship the product?

v9.51 (or maybe even v9.52) will be what it should have been, with major issues beta testers have been screaming about for weeks or months fixed, and hopefully some sanity brought to the default skin (hint: it shouldn't be fatter than the old one, and tab bar shouldn't be starkly black).

skapig

skapig reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

Great so far. There are UI features/enhancements spread all over. For example, a new download dialog. Overall, it definitely feels zippier. Only minor issues.

The new Developer Tools feature is handy to have around, but is pretty slugglish.

I'm not a fan of the new skin/default layout. Fortunately this version makes it even easier to find other skins. A browser is embedded in the Appearance dialog that allows you to quickly find and apply skins displayed in the same format as on the Opera site. Of course they're too proud of their new skin to actually promote this.

Also, I'm not keen on having a taskbar icon forced on me for no good reason (unless I've overlooked where it may be disabled).

miyuki09

miyuki09 reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

i love Opera, i have tried FF3 some days ago but it cant beat Opera, the most safe and secure browse, and this new theme roks :)

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

Brian49: Are you telling us FF eats up much less? I've see screenshots of FF3 eating up 1GB+ on a Vista system. That's one. Two, I don't get whyeverybody is crying over memory when a lot of people nowadays got 2-4GBs of memory.

And as for the Opera itself, well, best browser has just gotten even better.

Brian49

Brian49 reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

Works well as a browser, but the memory usage is ridiculously high - about 130Mb after it had been running for half an hour (five times as much as my AV program, and 30 times as much as an IE-based browser).

I expect any well-constructed software to be as economical as possible with memory; if it uses a huge amount, there's something wrong with it. To repeat, my IE-based browser (GreenBrowser) typically uses about 4Mb.

lucianct

lucianct reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

you can change the theme if you don't like it... i don't like either the safari skin! and worst, it can't be changed!
i like opera for its security and speed. it cannot be compared with safari or internet explorer... though, don't like the widgets. i prefer the firefox add-ons... but opera has all i need and i don't use the widgets

MikeTechno

MikeTechno reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

I think many of the reviewers here have forgotten one very important fact about Opera: it is the most secure browser on the market. Time and time again Opera comes up as the leader when tested against all others in this area. As a matter of fact, I can't recall the last time it lost one of those tests. This is an exceptional browser, easily one of the best out there. Nearly every bit as good as Avant, Maxthon, Firefox or Safari. Each one could still learn a little bit from the others of course but that will always be the case. Great browser all the way around though and continuously getting better. Love the new GUI on it by the way. Well done.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

I have to say - the rendering is better than it has ever been before... and so is the speed. I noticed a very high increase in speed upgrading from 9.27, and I have also not come across a webpage that doesnt display correctly and that isnt webdevelopers fault for not following standards - which is what Opera does. I am no fanboy but I am very happy with this release.
And if you think its becoming a thing in the past, just try to sync all your browser preferences, like bookmarks and speed dial with a mobile device. No other browser offers that kind of multiplatform support.

asmithz

asmithz reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

I agree with internetworld7 in every respect. Opera may be your cup of tea as a web browser, but it doesn't compete anymore. The speeds come no where near Firefox and Safari, it's rendering is pathetic now a days. You get a bulky browser that looks like a drag queen designed it. Opera was a thing of a past, and doesn't look like it will become anything more.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

internetworld and improvelence, do you guys get kick backs? All you 2 do is spam. get a life and a clue

Then new theme looks good imo

EDIT TO THE BS ABOVE ME
http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/

when will people stop talking sh8 to put down a piece of software because for their creepy affections towards another

internetworld7

internetworld7 reviewed v9.50 Build 10063 Final on Jun 12, 2008

Now I understand why Opera only has less than a 1% market share. Opera use to be a good browser about a year ago. This new interface has been designed to fit into the Vista environment. The native theme for the Mac is still too Window-ish.

I could live with that I suppose but Opera is no longer the fastest browser by far. That was something Opera use to be a able to boast. After installing it and using it, the speed differences between Firefox 3 and Safari was very obvious. Opera was slow and rendering some pages poorly.

What a far cry from what Opera use to be like. I guess the developers took this browser as far as they could. And if you think this is just my exclusive opinion, just visit the Opera labs blog and take a look at the comments by Opera fans. Many are not pleased with this new release.

Anyway I'm quite happy with the nightly builds of Webkit, Saft and Inquisitor plugins along with NightShift. Unlike Opera the nightly builds of Webkit are incredibly fast, stable and very polished.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 10057 RC on Jun 12, 2008

Opera 9.5 FINAL is released!!!!

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v9.50 Build 10057 RC on Jun 10, 2008

Another update-yeah
Glad I only use it for OperaTor

DACWILSOL

DACWILSOL reviewed v9.50 Build 10057 RC on Jun 10, 2008

Impressive. Will elaborate more, once I use the browser more, but so far, very impressive.

condorloco

condorloco reviewed v9.50 Build 10057 RC on Jun 10, 2008

This is becoming my default browser. Miles ahead over all other browsers.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.50 Build 10057 RC on Jun 10, 2008

The fastest and safer browser. All in one suite with (browser, mail etc.)
Many tools (default) without the need of extentions like ff.
Highly customizable, with skins etc.
Trash Bin, Wand passwords, Fraud protection, torrent downloader, and voice-control, opera has everything.
Continue the good work opera developers.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.50 Build 10057 RC on Jun 10, 2008

oh look its improvelence with yet another insightful review on Opera.

I guess a resource hungry and only useful after adding countless plugins which break after updates experience is what you want. So the question then is why are you here?

The proof is in the pudding, not in useless fanboys scary obesession with a piece of software

http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/

.:zoo:.

.:zoo:. reviewed v9.50 Build 10057 RC on Jun 10, 2008

Best browser! say what you want, it is the best.

BarneyR

BarneyR reviewed v9.50 Build 10057 RC on Jun 10, 2008

No problems here...opinion: without a doubt the best browser available.

Icfu

Icfu reviewed v9.50 Build 10057 RC on Jun 10, 2008

Windows native appearance with new icons is usable only for heroine junkies and crack heads. This is as much a release candidate as Hillary Clinton is a candidate for US president.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 10057 RC on Jun 10, 2008

Opera is that funny little aftertaste you get when you accidentally get a diet soda from the soda machine.

It just doesn't satisfy.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 10057 RC on Jun 10, 2008

"still doesn't support gmail 2.0 :("

Still?! It's been fince since early alphas/betas.

Wow! An RC!!! :D

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 9, 2008

@cengizkhan: Gmail 2.0 work fine without problem > https://mail.google.com/...ui=2&nocheckbrowser

@eaves: Euh, all "features" included with Opera 9.27 are supported with Kestrel.

cengizkhan

cengizkhan reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 9, 2008

still doesn't support gmail 2.0 :(

eaves

eaves reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 9, 2008

Getting better, but still too many feature regressions from the 9.27 version.

This will become a real beta version when the 9.27 features are all supported, until then it is just a buggy alpha version.

villiansv

villiansv reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 8, 2008

@godofthunder

This may be due to the Fraud Protection (Opera's anti-phishing implementation). Check Prefs-Advanced-Security (enable/disable it) to see if that's the case.

godofthunder

godofthunder reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 7, 2008

Opera is now one of the highest ranking browsers on the new ACID3 test.
Keep it up guys.

JUST ONE CONCERN:
I have been getting complaints that the OPERA browser is streaming information from the users local IP to a remote location "Opera Software ASA -213.236.208.60."

This could be just for beta monitoring purposes. If not we might have to place this remote IP on a black list data pool.

If anyone can shed some light on this, please do.

The IceMan

The IceMan reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 7, 2008

why dont they change the screenshot

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 7, 2008

wow this build is really good:)

guti

guti reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 7, 2008

Great! Two releases same day.
This 10051 build improves skin colors and contrast, making it even more attractive and easier to read.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 7, 2008

Opera for Windows 9.50 Build 10051 Beta beta
download instmisa.exe
why ?
all other versin till today installed perfect

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 7, 2008

Love it. New skin is grean, improves usability a lot.

Known issues:
Dragonfly does not work when JavaScript is disabled.

Improved contrast between active and inactive tabs in the tab bar
Higher contrast for the text on inactive tabs to increase readability, especially on laptops
Brighter background in the panels
A tiny bit more color: We added the Home button as default by popular demand
We tuned the color intensity of the color themes (Tools: Appearance: Color scheme) to be more usable with both this and other skins. Try it out again!
Improved visibility of the scrollbars
Buttons no longer grow wider when you press them
Nicer background for security status on https pages

Changelog
Fixed the panel selector dropdown
Fixed all search related bugs in the previous snapshot
Changed default Speed dial search engine from Yahoo to Ask
Made it possible to set a custom title for the Developer Tools (Dragonfly) Window using in the tool top level document
Fixed a plugin crash

pjb

pjb reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 6, 2008

Fast, Stable and nice. I also like the new skin.

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.50 Build 10051 Beta on Jun 6, 2008

Skins? Not way up on my priority list. Only one I would like to see is a Buuf skin for Opera.
Irrelevant? It is going the other way, my friend.

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v9.50 Build 10048 Beta on Jun 6, 2008

Cool new interface, btw i hate skins

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 10048 Beta on Jun 6, 2008

Excellent build and very nice skin.

@nms04: Right click > Customize... > Panels > Show panel toggle at the edge of window

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.50 Build 10048 Beta on Jun 6, 2008

I love Opera. I really do. I've been using it since about version 3-4. But for christ sakes why can't they give the thing a decent skin? The 7-9.27 series had a default skin that thoroughly sucked. Now this one is a distinct improvement but it still sucks. Just slightly less so. It's about time the graphics department pulled out their finger and gave first time users' first impression the first class treatment it deserves! And another thing is if they don't get this damn thing out of BETA/RC pretty soon Opera will become irrelevant if its not careful, especially with a resurgent FFX3. As a developer i can understand that we like things to be "perfect" but for the sake of Opera users and Opera the company they really should get this thing released now!

guti

guti reviewed v9.50 Build 10048 Beta on Jun 6, 2008

Engine has been always excellent. Now with the new skin, it also looks good!

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.50 Build 10048 Beta on Jun 5, 2008

great new skin! but wheres the thing on the left side to open the panel?? :-/

exit

exit reviewed v9.50 Build 10048 Beta on Jun 5, 2008

Great new skin and new way to open the left panel
Just click the x shaped tools under file

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 10048 Beta on Jun 5, 2008

I love the new skin... if you want a smaller space saving skin try this:

http://my.opera.com/comm...mize/skins/info/?id=656

Beta testing is taking as long as it takes before its ready for release.

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.50 Build 10048 Beta on Jun 5, 2008

New skin is beyond bad. It's ridiculously bad. Half of sites I vist are broken. Beta testing is taking too long.

arjesus

arjesus reviewed v9.50 Build 10048 Beta on Jun 5, 2008

The best browser ever

+the new look is great

-browser menus still dont work on www.deviantart.com =(

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 10048 Beta on Jun 5, 2008

Opera > *
Great skin!!!

Known issues:
Dragonfly does not work when JavaScript is disabled.
All the search icons are Opera icons
Translate menu doesn't work
Panel dropdown selector doesn't work

changelog
Fixed links in the fraud protection dialog
Fixed crash when saving mhtml files
Fixed random crasher when going back in history
Fixed moving videos on youtube when hovering tabs
Made form submit work properly in widgets
Fixed bug where plugins would continue streaming after closing a tab
XHR - Fixed calling of calling abort() from readyState 2 or 3
More fixes to xpath
Fixed viewing of feeds with slow loading images
Fixed problem with duplication of bookmarks when using Opera Link
Fixed issue where the integrated Dragonfly window would be too tall
Added three default speed dial entries
Windows: Fixed the default Save and Open dialog folders
UNIX: Fixed import of mail on when using the QT filechooser
UNIX: Improved finding of icons for download dialog
UNIX: Fixed filename when saving URL's

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on Jun 2, 2008

@ alanpalmer:

****
Version information

Version - 9.50 beta
Build - 10034
Platform - Win32
****

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on Jun 2, 2008

Odd.

The Help: About page shows this build as 10024, the number of the last build, although the install file has 10034 in the filename [o950s_10034m.exe]. My firewall (ZA) didn't ask about it as a changed program either. I wondered if I'd opened the wrong install file at first, so I tried again and this time it asked if I wanted to repair the program. There was no obvious difference after repairing.

[Shrugs]

Later:

Opera has totally stopped loading pages. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling, rebooting, and going back a couple of system restores. No luck. It won't even install the Help page now. At a guess, it was loading pages from cache earlier. I'll carry on to see what I can do to get it working.

Rated on this build only

RVail

RVail reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on Jun 2, 2008

They seem to be focusing on passing AcidTest3:
http://acid3.acidtests.org
This latest build [o950s_10034m.exe] ups the score on that test to 82/100, where the previous several builds scored 79/100.
Side note: another browser function that lacks complete support is: Flash Firefly. An example site is: http://twitlive.tv/

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on Jun 2, 2008

This browser has no place to go, but down and maybe out. It simply doesn't have the kind of support to make it a world class browser. I've taken it off my system with no plans to restore it. Rendering continues to be a serious problem. Fanatical users are not going to save it.

eaves

eaves reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on Jun 1, 2008

This version continues to improve. however, there are still many regession bugs, i.e., features that worked fine in the release version but do not work in these beta versions.

It looks like they need to tighten up their quality control, and at least use some automated regression testing.

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on Jun 1, 2008

I have a few little problems with Opera but I connot live withou it. At least for me this is the fastest browser. 5 Stars

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on Jun 1, 2008

Yeah, this beta fase has been lasting a while, but there are some major overhauling of the engine in this release, which is coming the right way now. Also, im glad that opera doesnt release software in a hurry, keeps up their already very good credibility.

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on May 31, 2008

It's a nice browser, but is it going to be in beta forever? I think they're learning from Google.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on May 31, 2008

Have been trying out the latest Opera beta 2, not these weekly versions. Opera beta 2 (the proper beta) is very good indeed. Forget these weeklies and go for the official beta, you'll not be disappointed.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on May 31, 2008

The best browser

Better than FF and IE

Fast and has everything you want without plugins or extentions

Ain Soph Aur

Ain Soph Aur reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on May 30, 2008

at first, i must say that i love opera! the best browser out there...
BUT, this beta is really ****ed up!! scrollbar doesn't work sometimes, i cant get my emails - the email client just freezes and the popup that shows you that you habe new emails doesn't work properly. i also cant send emails.
another thing is, that the "back" button does not work until the mouse hovers over the "forward" button o_0 ?!
and also the "find in page" search field does not exist... if you have one, it will be replaced - in my case - with the amazon search.

but i must say, that it was not a new installation. it is the third update that i have done over my 9.27 version. i have killed my opera client that way ;D

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 10034 Beta on May 30, 2008

Scrolling IS totally fixed. Build works great for me

dm1030

dm1030 reviewed v9.50 Beta Build 10024 on May 29, 2008

I'm having lots of problems with this build. Mainly problems with GMail and scrolling.

.:zoo:.

.:zoo:. reviewed v9.50 Beta Build 10024 on May 29, 2008

I love Opera. But with 9.50 beta gotting problem with the ADBlock and the AD's Google. When i blocked this one and try to open a web with ADgoolge included the web doesn't open at all. Just when delete google ad's this webs can open without problems.

LetsSpin

LetsSpin reviewed v9.50 Beta Build 10024 on May 29, 2008

The betas are getting better. But they keep breaking some fundamental things at various stages of development, which is frustrating. At times it makes me want to throw up my hands and say "it's not worth it, there are other good browsers".

I'm a developer, I understand how things can happen, but someone ought to seriously consider how their Q/A department is handling things. The Firefox beta process has gone much more smoothly, and FF3 is a pretty nice product. Opera is already in danger of permanently slipping to 4th place with the Safari product (which I think is second-rate.)

Opera, if you're listening to your fan base (I'm one), you need to do a better job of not only getting new users but retaining loyal old ones.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.50 Beta Build 10024 on May 29, 2008

I had problems too, but not with scrolling. Several sites took almost forever to load (including this one). It wasn't my connection as they worked fine in Firefox. Certain elements just wouldn't load. I've had to go back to 10014 and they now load without problems.

The rating is solely on this build, not on Opera overall, which usually merits a five from me.

BarneyR

BarneyR reviewed v9.50 Beta Build 10024 on May 29, 2008

No problems related to this build.

Diam0nd - did not have the problems you encountered...though I did run a fresh install.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Beta Build 10024 on May 29, 2008

This particular build barely works for me. I can't scroll on most pages. Again, I'm not rating Opera, I'm giving a rating to THIS PARTICULAR BUILD.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 27, 2008

"Reviewer: budzis May 26, 2008
Version: 9.50 Build 10014 Beta

I like Opera, but there is not Autocomplete when i make data entry. It is big "-" for me. And FF have so many extensions for all situations."
Autocomplete > OpS for Opera 9.50 -> http://my.opera.com/comm...p;page=1#comment2275671

"Extensions" (userjs) for Opera > http://www.neowin.net/fo...ex.php?showtopic=548527

SamppaX

SamppaX reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 26, 2008

4/5... Why? Well I would give it 5 but I really wanna see good adblock ability in it... yes it has one but it really sucks. Or if any knows some plug-in similar to firefox " adblock plus ", please tell... =)

budzis

budzis reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 26, 2008

I like Opera, but there is not Autocomplete when i make data entry. It is big "-" for me. And FF have so many extensions for all situations.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 26, 2008

The best customizable browser, non IE looking (firefox)

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 26, 2008

I wish these stupid Firefox fanboys would quit coming here and rating Opera without having even used it.

I tried Firefox for a month. I used it as my ONLY browser because I wanted to see what all the fuss is about.

To get all the functionality of Opera, I installed several plugins. The biggest positive of FF was its "superior" compatibility with sites (opera is getting much better though). Other than that, nothing really to brag about. FF takes about 5 times the memory (yes, 5x) as Opera, if not more. Speed - it's hard to tell.

Stability - hands down Opera.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 25, 2008

Preference my ass. FF blows this away. FF is way more powerful and customizable to 'personal preferences' than opera ever could hope to be. Plus, opera wants you to pay for it's mobile version-lol. Opera mini is a pain as it runs via java whereas google.com/m just plain works.
The one thing I do like is the portable version of this which utilizes tor.

democlees

democlees reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 24, 2008

lmao i put opra up against mozilla for gamming on with web script games, opra crashed with onlt 3 windows open while i was hitting people, mozilla hasnt crashed yet on 18 windows it just slowsdown because ov my isp it has got a few fancy gimics tho

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 24, 2008

On their own, in my opinion, Opera 9.5 is faster and has better built-in functionality than Firefox 3. That said, I use both for various reasons - market share has nothing to do with which browser is better (some think IE is/was better than both), it's a matter of personal preference, nothing more. No problems with this update.

GimieGimieGimie

GimieGimieGimie reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 24, 2008

A good browser, but there is better out there.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 23, 2008

Remember this is beta software - its put out there to test new functionality and find bugs - not to rate it down when you find some.

internetworld7

internetworld7 reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 23, 2008

@daddy_spank

EPIC FAIL O_o

Your comparing apples and onions! If they were both free most would drive the Ferrari as few can actually afford a Ferrari. However, both Opera and Firefox ARE free. One has exploded in popularity while the other putters along like an old 1980's Pinto that is in desperate need of permanent retiring!
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A decent browser but significantly slower than both Safari and Firefox 3 RC1. Also Firefox 3 is more stable, renders web pages more accurately and faster. If Opera is such a better browser than Firefox, it's kind of hard to explain why Firefox's market share is growing and will further explode in growth when Firefox 3 is final while Opera HAS YET to achieve a meager 1% market share! (^__^) LOL.

coover

coover reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 23, 2008

Yes, Opera does not have plugins, at least plugins like Firefox. It is my opinion that the worst thing about Firefox is plugins. Those optional things should be built into the browser. It seems every time Firefox fixes something in their browser (because of security problems or simply an update to make Firefox better), many of the Firefox plugins break. The Opera optional addons are a part of the browser and do not break.

cengizkhan

cengizkhan reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 23, 2008

doesn't support gmail v2. but it is very good and very fast.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 23, 2008

@improvelence

Plugins are for browsers that have limited functionality out of the box(yet somehow use way more memory and yes FF3 is still a pig it just isnt as big a pig as v2). The fact that there is a long list of plugins for FF to mimic the functions of Opera says something

Betas look promising though I could care less about the digg crap but still looking forward to the final release

EDIT
@internetworld7

FF like apple are marketed better. That has nothing to do with them being good or not but the sh8 that people like yourself throw around is further proof of that.

Before
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

and now
http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/

eaves

eaves reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 23, 2008

The 9.5 version is getting better with each build. I'm looking forward to the release candidates.

I left FireFox for Opera because FireFox requires too many plug-ins to do things that are basic to Opera. No need to constantly be searching for plug-ins that are compatible with the verion of FireFox I run. I like the very flexible configurability that Opera provides as well.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 10014 Beta on May 23, 2008

It's funny how some opera fans are trying to try to make tweaks looking like plugins and thus saying that opera does indeed has plugins. Opera do NOT have plugins, and all those tweaks are: 1. lame 2. do not provide half the functionality.

Opera will always be graggin its puny 1.4% of users, unless they introduce plugin API, not some lame-ass tools for devs.

Opera > *

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 10005 Beta on May 21, 2008

***
Reviewer: improvelence May 21, 2008
Version: 9.50 Build 10005 Beta

This browser is as lame as the real opera. Where are the plugins?
***
> Plugins = Flash, Shockwave,...
> Extensions/addons = Userjs >> http://my.opera.com/comm...ums/topic.dml?id=144237 + http://userjs.org + http://my.opera.com/Rijk...ox-extensions-and-opera + http://www.neowin.net/fo...ex.php?showtopic=548527

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 10005 Beta on May 21, 2008

This browser is as lame as the real opera. Where are the plugins? Has anyone been to the plugin page...I wonder why no one is writing plugins for this browser? Wait...I know, because its complete trash and 3rd party developers know its trash. I would give it more respect if it wasnt STILL slower than Firefox when the latter is loaded with running plugins.

If the developers of Opera do not step it up and provide something innovative, this browser will never gain a decent market share. I give it a 2 because its getting better.

******
To the guy above, that wimpy list of plugins cannot hold a candle...and did you use FLASH as an example.....every browser should support flash.

Jammerdelray

Jammerdelray reviewed v9.50 Build 10005 Beta on May 21, 2008

Firefox is still faster :D

GSMAN

GSMAN reviewed v9.50 Build 10005 Beta on May 20, 2008

MHT files still don't tag, but if you write in .mht, it saves pages as such.
Other than that, all seems good.....i haven't gotten into the digg craze/guess cause I save -everything- these days, so I don't understand that problem.

Its destined to be the best,.

Thanks to the Developers for the most customizable browser that comes with the ability to do most all your web-work in 1 package.

netean

netean reviewed v9.50 Build 10005 Beta on May 20, 2008

i'm confused how to rate this... This IS better than the last beta, which was oddly the most unstable of all the 9.5 builds I've tried. But it's only a few more builds on from the last release and it still seems no nearer to being released (at least it seems that way to me) - just an endless stream of betas that squash a few bugs and introduce new ones.

I just wish they'd get on with it and release it

The Seeker 11

The Seeker 11 reviewed v9.50 Build 10005 Beta on May 20, 2008

Although Digg is now finally working, I cannot digg up/down individual comments. Can anyone else confirm?

Version
9.50 Beta 2
Build
1971
Platform
Linux
System
i686, 2.6.25-4.slh.2-sidux-686
Qt library
3.3.8b
Java
Java Runtime Environment installed

mharvey

mharvey reviewed v9.50 Build 10005 Beta on May 20, 2008

anonymouscowturd: I like the fact that Opera logs in using the supplied password before I have to choose if I want Opera to store the password or not. This prevents me storing an incorrect password. I can see if the password was accepted before I choose to save it.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.50 Build 10005 Beta on May 20, 2008

The new Digg commenting system doesn't seem to crash this build which is good as it does previous builds and 9.27. Also Yahoo! mail drag and drop seem to work, but causes text selection when performing the drag. One thing i've noticed that does seem to be different is that now Opera logs you into a site before you've selected whether or not to save the password. This speeds things up i suppose but i'm undecided as to whether this is necessarily a good thing.
@mharvey. Good point dude. I'm sold!

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 10005 Beta on May 20, 2008

McAleck: Dude, I'd suggest you relax and keep it mind that this is a BETA/ALPHA-type release. If you want stability, use latest stable version, which is 9.27 if I remember it right.

Opera > *

FF is great, but O tops it in every respect, except for plugins.

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 15, 2008

wand doesn't work!!! new passwords are not saved, old ones are not active! grrrrrrrrrrr

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 12, 2008

@adam.yao: All works fine without any problem!

adam.yao

adam.yao reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 12, 2008

this version can NOT open betanews.com.

emperordarius

emperordarius reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 12, 2008

Fast, safe, reliable, but some pages can't display correctly.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 12, 2008

At least this ugly piece of junk loads quicker now.

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 11, 2008

this seems to be a particular good build.

i am using firefox 3 since some monnths.

[with tree stye tabs (vertical tabs), stylish, stumbleupon, stop autoplay, scribe fire (blog editor), personal menu, organzie search engines, firegestures (allows opening of multiple links with a mouse stroke), autocontext, cs lite (perfect cookie controll), and some less important extentions]

in firefox i miss operas popupblocker so much. and the wand. and the posibility to open windows in the background when they are trigered by a form's enter button (via pressing shift+mouseclick)

i would still use opera, actually i do sometimes, and i would not even mind using two browsers for ever, if they could just use the same bookmarks (at the same time).

speaking of bookmarks: opera's inability for right click context and drag and drop in the bookmark menus is the most important reason to make firefox my "first" browser. (the one which gets my up to date and complete bookmark collection)

so i hope that one day the GUI toolkit gets more powerfull. as far as I know it is third party and Linux related or something (KDE?motiv?). opera can't change it, and linux stuff (open group effort stuff) is allways frigging conservative (sloooow) in evolution.

love to opera

MickyFoley

MickyFoley reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 10, 2008

Rated 4, because the ability to block ads is in firefox much better solved (adblock + element hider are a wonderful combination).

Also like the poster before said: No real extensions. This widgets are a farce.

But: Opera 9.50 thrills me, to change my mainbrowser from Firefox to Kestrel. Why? Because of CSS3 support, faster rendering (and yes, i made the performancetests)

IE6 sucked
IE7 sucked
Firefox2 sucked
Firefox3 sucked
Safari sucked
Opera 9.27 sucked
Opera 9.50 no problems

So, dear Operateam: Bring us the possibility to include FF extensions & i swear, i'll forget FF forever.

newyorksabre

newyorksabre reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 10, 2008

Opera is the best, K-meleon feels and acts like it's in an alpha phase. Although fast, no difference between the two on my 4 meg connection, but lacks in almost everything compared to Opera and firefox for that matter. Stick with the pros and go Opera. 5 Stars

dpcdpc11

dpcdpc11 reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 10, 2008

really overrated... make it open source and see it's true potential... not having addon/plugins reduces the possibility to customize... and the mouse gestures are totally crap in Opera... you can't even drag diagonally... and when it comes to fast browsing opera is no match for k-meleon... another issue is the recovery of RAM memory which sucks ass... try opening 20 tabs from flickr or any other site and wait for them to load, then close them and check out opera's memory in use... it doesn't go down... then try loading the same pages again and the dumb opera loads them in memory again even though they already exist there. I'm doing this by browsing without disk cache, which IMO is the intelligent way to browse.
i know the startup is pretty fast but the page rendering is not faster than FF3beta, and i'm not saying this as a FF fan boy cause i ain't... my main browser is KM and i also have installed safari and IE7 with the IE pro installed which is also fast[both startup and rendering pages] and give me mouse gestures, adblock and many more features.
so stop saying it's the best browser cause u know it's bulls****!! without the possibility of adding plugins nowadays a software is as good as dead.

guti

guti reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 10, 2008

IPO in this build, really makes a performance difference.

Great, Opera is now even faster!

dm1030

dm1030 reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 10, 2008

Now that I have a Stumble button for Opera, I use it for just about all sites except Google Reader. Firefox works much better on it. Anyone have any tips for getting Opera to play nicer with Reader?

pforbes

pforbes reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 9, 2008

Fast, stable and secure. An excellent browser, it is the one I use the most.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 9, 2008

Really impressed. Everything works. I didn't have to go searching for plugins. page rendering is decent, but not as fast or as complete as is claimed. All of my bookmarks from firefox were there automatically. I'll be using it for a long time.

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 9, 2008

I have tried to turn many people on to Opera. The ones that understood the advanced features now use it as default. There will always be those that cannot understand how to use a browser if it does not look like IE or have some glitzy interface. They are generally the same people that never knew there was POP 3 mail.
With various buttons and other things written by the community there is no end to customizing Opera for your own use.
Opera was the first software I actually paid for and I have watched and enjoyed the developement.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 9, 2008

darthbeads: I hope you know you're a imbecile. Whatever browser YOU prefer, which is prolly FF, I'd never give a 1. I give FF, Avant and many other alternative browsers a 5, becase they are all great, but I just prefer Opera. But if you're too dumb to understand this concept, well, too bad, fam boi.

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v9.50 Build 9981 Beta on May 9, 2008

If nothing else, because any fanboy claiming to "retract" any divergent opinion is laughable and pathetic.

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.50 Build 9972 Beta on May 8, 2008

BACK to Opera.

#1 browser in the universe. I retract all previous 1 stars.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 9972 Beta on May 8, 2008

@Qrio: I do not have any problems with fileforum or betanews for that matter. Maybe its got something to do with your computer. try cean/fresh install.

tiagozt

tiagozt reviewed v9.50 Build 9972 Beta on May 7, 2008

Wand doesn't work... Many website incompatibilities (I'm sending the problems using OPera menu).
Opera is the best browser now and will be ok...

Qrio

Qrio reviewed v9.50 Build 9972 Beta on May 7, 2008

Great program as always!

One little bug I get with latest beta only is - FileForum doesn't load up for me completely, only the top "frame" up to the search bar? Any clue what might be causing it?

eaves

eaves reviewed v9.50 Build 9972 Beta on May 7, 2008

With this new beta release, Opera 9.50 is getting better.

However, do not rush them, there are still some issues that needs to be addressed. Opera needs to get out of the "introduce one new bug for every two that are fixed" mode of operation.

netean

netean reviewed v9.50 Build 9972 Beta on May 6, 2008

lovely... fast, usable, configurable, works with pretty much every page (except microsoft...oddly!)

just great...

NOW GET IT RELEASED... IT'S BEEN MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.. STOP DILLY-DALLYING AND RELEASE THIS... PLEASE!

exit

exit reviewed v9.50 Build 9972 Beta on May 6, 2008

9972 the wand is not working for me when needed
the wand icon wont work and i need to use ctrl+enter
This is the best out there when there are no bugs

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.50 Build 9972 Beta on May 6, 2008

Opera gets simply amazing. Dragonlfy means a lot. Most of people I know were using firefox for its developer tools plugins - firebug, etc. Now they will be more than happy to switch back to alma browser

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9972 Beta on May 6, 2008

Opera - simply the best.

The only thing that holds down more people from using it is the fact that it does not support plugins.

Dragonfly - crap that nobody really needs.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.50 Build 9945 Beta 2 on May 2, 2008

I want Browser For People from People, So my choise is Opera. Also Great mail client M2 inside!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 9945 Beta 2 on Apr 24, 2008

SO much fun following the improvement of this browser - regardless of its slow progress. But i think its better than so many others software vendors that just pushes their software out before its ready. Go Opera!!

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.50 Build 9945 Beta 2 on Apr 24, 2008

best browser
everything you need without extentions and other staff
the best speed
and high standards in security
good version-release times
and a good customize ability

If I could give 10 rating...

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.50 Build 9945 Beta 2 on Apr 23, 2008

improvelence you're an idiot.

Getting better all the time...

netean

netean reviewed v9.50 Build 9945 Beta 2 on Apr 23, 2008

9.5 has generally been superb throughout the whole (very long) beta cycle.

It's wonderfully fast, seems to work with pretty much everysite I visit now.

Don't use the mail component so can't comment on latest improvements there. but as a browser, it's really superb.

Please, Opera, get this out of beta... it feels like it's been in beta forever!

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v9.50 Build 9945 Beta 2 on Apr 23, 2008

For me, as a technical minded person, this is the best browser for my needs.

I can't really fault the new 9.5 version as it renders almost all the IE designed pages as it should do now.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.50 Build 9945 Beta 2 on Apr 23, 2008

I just see statistic opera users 2%
I think Iam will the last opera user on the planet
but I never use other browsers
only the best :)
i think 2 from 100 not too much
but how many people have an FERRARI ???
2 from 100 ???

Rating: 6 (very high)

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 9945 Beta 2 on Apr 23, 2008

Warning: Using this browser could cause you to lose all logic and thinking. Some users have been reported to spend hours on Betanews vehemently defending the status of their browser (even though it is obviously complete trash) and slandering other browsers which will remain nameless.

I recommend steering clear of this one. I warned you.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.50 Build 9945 Beta 2 on Apr 23, 2008

Well, at least we're up to Beta 2. ;)

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9945 Beta 2 on Apr 23, 2008

Every time I use FF it just doesn't even come close. But unlike FF-boys, I'm NOT gonna say that FF sucks, it ROCKS, it's just #2 for me, not #1.

Opera > *

jb64

jb64 reviewed v9.50 Build 9937 Beta on Apr 21, 2008

Well, I stupidly converted my email to opera 9.5 beta when it looked like any other Opera beta after about 5 versions (previously there were generally a handlful of betas I saw befoer it got stable) and there was no way back. 27 versions later it is still in beta with no end to the bugs and the introduction of new bugs every release if only to keep it interesting.

The last three weeks' betas saw the inability to download an exe file properly - even from betanews. Well, that's fixed. Email icon notification in system tray took oooh about 4 months to fix, but that got fixed about 3 releases back. Picture pausing part-way through without loading, oh that was a really nice bug for 3 versions as well.

What's newly screwed in this release? Back pages. How many releases will it take to get fixed? Probably 3 more weeks of releases if past history is anything to go by.

Stability? Actually it's very stable. Overall, it has fixed a number of issues in 9.2x, like the ability to shut down immediately as opposed to up to two minutes when you have a number of open pages like I do. Rendering of pages seems pretty darn good for the sites I visit. It's also been difficult for me to crash it, although I did manage it with the 9937 install first go, but not since.

Functionality? Well, it's always been more functional than Firefox or IE. Yes, the Firefox fanboys will shoot me down for even suggesting that, but quite honestly I spent a number of hours trying to search for firefox plugins to support the in-built functionality of Opera that I use and I still didn't quite get the mix I required. So the question has to be raised - why waste time doing this when it's all in one install? Session save handling has improved by the use of additional check-boxes in this release, for example. And I never did find the equivalent Firefox plug-in for that.

My feelings are mixed on this beta and overall. Too many things seems to break from one beta to the next whilst other things become more stable. It is definitely taking way too long to finalise, but it's good at the same time. There seems to be a determination to convert email to a slightly different format with every second official version and that's damn annoying because there isn't a need for this after four or five different email formats.

So while IE8 is claiming acid2 compliance which opera managed two years back, Opera is slightly closer to acid3 compliance with this release.

Concentrate on fixing the bugs, stop fiddling with the code and get a full release out!

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.50 Build 9937 Beta on Apr 18, 2008

Simply awesome, there are still some bugs here. But at last Yahoo! mail works completely, including the DHTML right click menus which just were not working before in 9.26 (if you're not aware, instead of right clicking, left click and hold and the menu will pop up.) I'm obsolutely chomping at the bit for 9.5 final.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9937 Beta on Apr 18, 2008

Donzy: Did you notice that this site is called BETAnews? And thus most programs here and betas and alphas, which are SUPPOSED to have bugs and things that dont work. Normal people with half-functioning brains like yourself are not advised to install those, since they only cause anger and miunderstanding on your side. Good lord...

Opera > *

For all people who love to b i t c h. Note on opera development blog:
WARNING: These are development snapshots: they contain the latest changes, but they also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, they may not work at all.

Donzy

Donzy reviewed v9.50 Build 9937 Beta on Apr 18, 2008

Diam0nd: Did you notice "Write a Review" at the top of this thread?

Do you know the difference between being objective and Opera fanboy?

If Opera release software with statements like "In fact, they may not work at all" then they must take the heat in review forums.

I am a great fan of Opera but 9.50 final is taking too long.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.50 Build 9937 Beta on Apr 18, 2008

This build fix some important issues.
Well Opera has the best result in ACID3 test CONGRATS!

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.50 Build 9937 Beta on Apr 17, 2008

ey guys ... THIS IS AN ALPHA/BETA RELEASE!!!! alphas and betas are here to test, to find bugy ecc. use the official release instead of this one if you don' wanna have problems!

krgood

krgood reviewed v9.50 Build 9937 Beta on Apr 17, 2008

Last two releases would not load home page (google) and hangs at every URL I select. I like Opera but there seems to be numerous bugs that keep it in the low end. I see the same bugs at every release.
Maybe it will get a heads up on FF someday..

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.50 Build 9903 Beta on Apr 11, 2008

Bookmark swap bug STILL exists, even after re-introducing it several builds and a flurry of Opera beta users reqwuesting it be fixed.

Download improper extension bug is still there.

Back to 9.27 for me. How sad.

us3r

us3r reviewed v9.50 Build 9903 Beta on Apr 9, 2008

Until they will fix websites incompatibilities, Opera 9.5 beta is useless.

Avion Airplane

Avion Airplane reviewed v9.50 Build 9903 Beta on Apr 9, 2008

I like Opera,but ive started using Mozilla and like it also. I think the powers to be should combine forces and have a OPERZILLA web browzer. ;=)

rhy7s

rhy7s reviewed v9.50 Build 9903 Beta on Apr 9, 2008

MikeTechno said:Best Featue: when you copy text from a web page and past it into your e-mail client, this version of Opera knows to strip out all of the embedded web/HTML instructions and code ... EVERY other browser needs to copy that one incredible feature.


Write in plain text. HTML mail's just a waste of bandwidth. Alternatively https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/134 or Google for system-wide equivalents.

pforbes

pforbes reviewed v9.50 Build 9903 Beta on Apr 9, 2008

Fast, reliable and flexible. In this moment is the best. I use W2000, XP and Win98 and it runs perfect on them all.

MikeTechno

MikeTechno reviewed v9.50 Build 9903 Beta on Apr 8, 2008

I have to say, I really like this browser. Best Featue: when you copy text from a web page and past it into your e-mail client, this version of Opera knows to strip out all of the embedded web/HTML instructions and code so when you past, all you get is the text that you were looking to copy and none of the other garbage - by default! Nothing to switch on, no menues to search through. You just have to love that. EVERY other browser needs to copy that one incredible feature. That one, criticially important and highly valuable feature alone vaults this release of Opera to the top of my personal browser rankings above both Avant 11.6 and Maxthon 2.0.x

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v9.50 Build 9903 Beta on Apr 8, 2008

"Mommy why do my friends make fun of Improvelence?

"Well, SUSIE, that's because he's a worthless Troll who should go back under his bridge and stay there until he can learn to play nice with the normal folks."

- - -

Kestrel's best build to date. Everything seems to be working smooth-as-silk for me so far (I'll update if this changes). Can't be long until a final release now...! :)

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9903 Beta on Apr 8, 2008

Best browser around. Both alpha and beta builds barely crash on me.

Firefox is good, but not even close.

MickyFoley

MickyFoley reviewed v9.50 Build 9903 Beta on Apr 8, 2008

Known Issues

* Too many searches in the search engine list
* "Open With" other browsers doesn't work
* The progress bar does not show if it's set to "Pop-up at the bottom"

New Features

* Added EV certificate support
* Added Notes synchronization
* Added opera:historysearch to default list of search engines

Core Fixes

* Fixed problems loading Gmail
* Improved XHR (AJAX) performance
* Fixed mouse gesture crash in print preview
* Windowless mode for Silverlight 1.1 now works

Mail Fixes

* Fixes to decoding of mailto: URLs
* Fixed crash when listing channels/rooms on IRC server
* Fixed problem when fetching feeds would freeze Opera for a long time
* Fixed problem where Opera wouldn't start for some users with old mail directories
* Optimized newsfeed download when users have lots of existing feed messages
* Fixed problem seen when changing the status of several messages at the same time
* Fixed several parse errors caused by IMAP bugs server
* Fixed problem adding contacts to messages when the contact has multiple e-mail addresses

UI Fixes

* Fixed crash when opening Help
* Some fixes to Opera Link synchronization
* Fixed problem saving pages in formats other than HTML
* MHTML files can now only be saved as MHTML
* Fixed problem where Personal bar was greyed-out sometimes
* Viewing source doesn't put the file in the system temp folder anymore
* Viewing source and applying changes to local files commits the changes to the local file again
* Fixed the internal "Execute program" command, which caused Open in buttons to stop working

Platform-specific

* [Windows] Fixed opacity inversion on web pages
* [Windows] Fixed GDI leak related to favicons
* [Windows] Fixed crash when closing Opera
* [Windows] Fixed printing issues where some words would run into each other
* [OS X] Fixed problem scrolling to the bottom of the pages using scrollbars

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Apr 8, 2008

"Mommy why do my friends make fun of our web browser?"

"Well Susy, thats because daddy is an a****** and makes us use Opera"

poisonu

poisonu reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Apr 4, 2008

I am looking forward to using both Firefox 3.0 & Opera 9.50 when they become final releases.....
Currently using Opera 9.2x & Firefox 2.0.0.x....

OBERSERVER

OBERSERVER reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 31, 2008

Fast, good scalable, userfriendly and good customizable

+ The only browser which is capable of loading images with right menu and scale them with [ctr+mousewheel] like I want.

+ Saving complete surf sessions and start back there when you want.

+ You can choose a plenty of very cool and helpful widgets.

+ You can make use of the speed dial. I don't want to miss this because I used to have it. Very helpful feature. I put 9 homepages there where I am daily.

+ Build in feedreader, mail-client, chat-client, bittorrent-client and more

I don't need IE or FF. I am using Opera for many years and there is no browser that fits better to my needs.

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 31, 2008

@Horsecharles: If you can't find the will to review the build on offer, kindly refrain from posting your tiresome 'Opera sux' troll-isms.

@eaves: So what you're saying is that because ONE feature is broken, you can't review an ENTIRE BROWSER? And that this merits a score of 1 point? Lame.

- - -

While the DHTML improvements in this build are spectacular, I'm struggling to think of any websites that currently make use of this functionality, reducing this improvement to the level of a technical curiosity rather than a significant real-world User Experience upgrade. While focusing on Web Standards does benefit us all in the long run, there are plenty of improvements that could be made to the browser functionality as well and I'm not sure enough focus is on these areas in this round of development.

I also have an issue where downloading files only works if you right-click and 'save as'; clicking the download links in web-pages returns some error about a certain module in Opera not being available. I'll reinstall later and see if that's still present. [UPDATE: PROBLEM STILL EXISTS]

I'm still looking forward to Kestrel, though, whenever it deigns to land.

mytake4this

mytake4this reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 30, 2008

Only two things holding this back from a perfect score in my eyes. 1) Some forums will simply not have the input box displayed using Opera. I tried changing settings to no avail.
2) The bookmark system is not as easy where it comes to moving the bookmarks or quickly deleting them.

Opera does some things better than any other browser, and it seems rather stable. The email system is not pick for the best way to handle the mail, but that is a personal preference, no doubt. I use Firefox for surfing, and forums and Opera for more business type of sites. I use them both. The IE7 is just not cutting it for me.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 30, 2008

Web archive single file full working perfectly
without any problem I use it continously all time without any problem.

Some websites not show perfectly because webmasters optimized for IE or fIrEfox thats mean same.

Opera has an very big bug.
Opera faster and better then other browsers thogether.

Rating: 6 (very high)

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 30, 2008

The most customizable browser i ever saw

8189720

8189720 reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 30, 2008

@horsecharles, welcome to BetaNews and thank you for your comments regarding Opera.

It is the best browser ever, but please remember, that even though it's number one, you have to give it a five. It's just how the rating system here works. But, again, thanks for your comments and I'm pretty sure we all agree with you when you say it is the "Best browser EVER!!!!!!"

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 30, 2008

Some Firefox fanboys can't stand the fact that they browser eat dust compare to Opera, Opera is the best and the other crap named browser never will defeated this one ;)
@horsecharles: you keep in the past baby, change to Opera :D

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 29, 2008

Best browser EVER!!!!!!

Won't display some websites / protocols / common plugins... but hey, that's just a minor problem / not the browser's fault.

Yah, right.................

cannie

cannie reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 29, 2008

Fast and reliable. Better than previous versions. It allows downloads to go on even when you close Opera. Tried on different OS, it works even on Win98. I love it.

eaves

eaves reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 29, 2008

From the developer blog:

"Save As for a web page only lets you save as "HTML file" on Windows."

I sure wish Opera would fix this for the beta. I use this capability a lot, and the inability to save as a web archive is preventing me from beta-testing.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 29, 2008

Fred-Erik: you missed my point completely. By opening up, I meant releasing an API for developers to write plugins. Nothing else.

Best browser ever.

Fred-Erik

Fred-Erik reviewed v9.50 Build 9864 Beta on Mar 29, 2008

@Diam0nd: indeed, I misunderstood. And I do agree an API would be helpful.

Please delete this discussion, by the way.

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 19, 2008

I usually update over the top of my Opera installation with each new build but based on a comment I saw on the Desktop Team blog I installed this one separately: this resulted in a noticeable increase in speed and overall responsiveness, not just in browsing but in tab and menu behaviour, too. Not sure if this was due to revised coding or simply the fresh install but I'm very happy with this new build. FF Beta 4 is fast but this build feels on a par with it now. Would love to see the tests done again.

Oh, and I have it as 77/100 on ACID 3.

Inline find is fixed, but several other known isues are still present. Still a ways to go, then, but I still count this as making good progress.

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 19, 2008

With this latest beta 78/100 in acid 3 test! Highest score so far

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 19, 2008

This is the best browser and the fastest one around, BUT if they won't open up and allow people to write plugins for it I'm afraid I'm gonna leave opera for good. Because there are plugins for many applications and devices that can be integrated with FireFox, but not Opera. Opera, cmon, open your mind and start opening up!

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 19, 2008

The very best. I wish they did pay us, poor ex- engineer here!

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 18, 2008

Opera fanboy for past 3 years. However, latest firefox 3b4 AFTER firetune opening 1 website at a time noticeably faster than opera. So? Opera is so much more comfortable, convinient and lighter.

Wildhack

Wildhack reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 18, 2008

DaComboMan wrote:

"Wonder how much they pay these Opera fans?
With latest stats showing Firefox3 beta4 way on top of all browsers for speed, i wonder if they read anything else but the Opera forum."

I don't read the forum, but I have both FF3b4 and Opera. There's no question that Opera is waaaay faster. On *both* the laptops in this house...

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 18, 2008

Wonder how much they pay these Opera fans?
With latest stats showing Firefox3 beta4 way on top of all browsers for speed, i wonder if they read anything else but the Opera forum.

BTW, the History Search still isn't fixed from past 4 versions if not more.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 18, 2008

Slowly ripping off Firefox? if so, just returning the favor.

Ain Soph Aur

Ain Soph Aur reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 18, 2008

Oh my god! I cant look at this page... Its just to EROTIC!!! I LOVE IT!!!! :D

Really the best and fastest browser!

Skyfrog

Skyfrog reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 18, 2008

Great.

maxkit

maxkit reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 18, 2008

Very good browser, but I am a Firefox man :-)

BTW, how do they get that font smoothing on the screen shot? I see that Opera menu does not have smoothed font, and window itself does, which means that it's not just Windows ClearType turned on. I downloaded and installed this beta to check it out, but I've got just usual non-smoothed text.

Kriff

Kriff reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 18, 2008

This build fixed a lot of stability issues I was having. My browser of choice.

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v9.50 Build 9841 Beta on Mar 18, 2008

*improvelence*
There is just no way you tested this browser.

Verry good build!

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 9815 Beta on Mar 18, 2008

Aside from it having no decent plugins, it's horrendously ugly and incompatible. It's also slowly ripping off of firefox every chance it gets.

IE7 is better than this junk.

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v9.50 Build 9815 Beta on Mar 12, 2008

I don't find other browser better that Opera, this its the Best, the more fast, the more secure.
I don't need slugest like Firefox.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 9815 Beta on Mar 1, 2008

@yangster: Not a beta build > Snapshot build:

-----
A snapshot is a glimpse into the next major release of Opera for Desktop. They contain experimental and incomplete implementations of new features, as well as work-in-progress on bug fixes. Snapshots are:
cutting edge, pre-alpha quality, incomplete, and often contain critical bugs
distributed to a very limited audience via the Desktop Team blog
typically available every Friday, though sometimes more or less often
not substitutes for final releases and should never be installed over them
unstable and prone to data loss/corruption, thus data backup is highly recommended before use
-----

Source: http://snapshot.opera.com/faq.html#what-snapshot

yangster

yangster reviewed v9.50 Build 9815 Beta on Mar 1, 2008

Opera 9.5b (Kestrel beta) build 9815

A snapshot is not a substitute for a final release, so those that use snapshots should expect to find numerous problems, some of which may cause Opera to crash or to lose/corrupt your data. Before each snapshot release, builds go through minimal smoke testing. Users are advised to make backups before installation of each new snapshot, in addition to normal periodic backups.

Alpha and beta releases have higher quality standards than snapshot releases. They also go through much more extensive testing and approval processes. In order to meet the higher quality standards, riskier changes may be postponed until after an alpha/beta release. Thus, quality after an alpha/beta release may drop dramatically when previously postponed changes are introduced.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.50 Build 9815 Beta on Feb 29, 2008

Been using as primary browser for years - agree with the artist.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9815 Beta on Feb 29, 2008

Great. Fastest browser around. Works great for me in 99.9% of all cases (=sites). Simple amazing.

I love how people discuss that it's taking long to develop this or that or whatever. People, here we are rating CURRENT VERSION, not future versions, not old ones, but CURRENT. Can we stick to that please? Cut the crap. ty.

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.50 Build 9815 Beta on Feb 29, 2008

It's been long since i last reviewed these "Nightly Builds" (they are NOT Betas) but the feeling grows on me that the developers are taking WAAAY TOO LONG to release 9.5, and LET ALONE Opera 10 which we haven't heard anything concrete about since first mentioned.

They add and take, do and undo and the builds don't seem to advance at all because they are always critically flawed with about the same problems, they are fixing some eternal list of ghostly bugs or the like it seems...

Hmmm, they are dissapointing me. I'd like to understand better what's going on inside the dev schedule.

PD: Yes, i know http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ thanks.

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.50 Build 9807 Beta on Feb 29, 2008

OPERA ROCKETS BACK TO #1, but ## WARNING ##

Please ignore my previous 1 star rating. The bookmark bug has been fixed!

Opera is the best browser ever. I just hope it gets better at rendering. :(

Rendering has been improved tremendously in these latest builds!

HOWEVER, I would advise people stay with 9.26 until BUG 280678 is fixed in the next build. Files are NOT being saved with correct extensions, which kills most downloads unless you rename them! :(

nightops

nightops reviewed v9.50 Build 9807 Beta on Feb 25, 2008

Great app. Very clean, and handles very well. Though, I would like to see a more universal rendering of CSS. Unfortunately, that's something that IE/FF/Opera/Safari/etc. will need to work out between themselves. I would love to see something like 'Firebug' and 'User Agent Switcher' as add-ons. Great job.

ssb

ssb reviewed v9.50 Build 9807 Beta on Feb 25, 2008

@improvelence:
"Ugly, slower than FF and less featured..." Are you kidding? I do understand "fanboyism" but that's pathetic.

Firefox needs a whole bunch of thirdparty extensions to match the features already included in Opera. Not to mention code quality; FF mem leaks like a sieve.

As for performance, please do yourself a favorite visiting http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests
Run some of the benchtests found there, using either browser, then come and tell us what you think :)

netean

netean reviewed v9.50 Build 9807 Beta on Feb 24, 2008

Been using 9.5 since the beta, personally not noticed any real problems, a few niggles here and there that change as bugs get fixed and then created elsewhere (as with all beta software)

On the whole, fast, very stable (for me), does almost what I want it to (real stumbleupon support PLEASE!) Does need any additional extensions like Firefox does for me (usually have 10 or so with FF)

Interface works, never felt the desire to skin it - it's good enough for me. STILL trying to find a skin on FF that I like and find useable.

I use FF sometimes (for Stumbling mostly) but Opera for everything else: about 95% of the time.

Great browser, great performance, and for me... just and essential bit of software.

But please Opera: release this soon.. it'e been beta for what seems like forever!

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v9.50 Build 9807 Beta on Feb 24, 2008

Ah, Improvelence, this thread wouldn't be the same without your constant Trolling. Bless you, sir. However, you are starting to contradict yourself:

Sept 5th - "I cannot understand how this ** ** *** has so many fans?"

Feb 24th - "...but its tiny fanbase shows that it is not even a mild threat..."

If anything, Opera's fanbase has GROWN during those six months. Kindly uninstall Opera from your machine at your earliest convenience and save us all the bother of having to listen to your pathetic, unbalanced hate-rants - I suspect the 'five' people using Opera wouldn't want to visit your website anyway.

- - -

This build of Opera does seem to improve the plugin situation, particularly on Linux where I've noticed a huge stability increase. Windows performance is still quick, smooth and stable, although the Inline Find breakage is an annoyance I could do without.

Surely it can't be long now before Kestrel finally lands?

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v9.50 Build 9807 Beta on Feb 24, 2008

I don't know what mean ugly, this browser its far more nice and flexible that FF or IE and Opera don't need install 100000 extensions for make it more robust.
PD. I see that some Firefox users are a little stressed, maybe they need more "speed" ;) in they lives. I think that I go to rate FF now ;)

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 9807 Beta on Feb 24, 2008

Still ugly, way slower that FF3, far less features, tiny and annoying fanbase...I could go on and on about the flaws of this browser but its tiny fanbase shows that it is not even a mild threat to Firefox or IE. This futile attempt at a browser hurts my feelings. The 5 people that use this are the reason I have to always test my website in it and keep a copy on my machine.

fuhayer

fuhayer reviewed v9.50 Build 9807 Beta on Feb 23, 2008

i downloaded and compared this to FF3b3 and regret to say FF3B3 is faster than this in anyway !

whoever says this is the fastest browser must check FFb3 and then must leave comment here.

i like opera but cuz usability and speed, i use FF now.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9807 Beta on Feb 22, 2008

Opera - my religion ;| FASTEST browser around. That's what I appreciate the most.

P.S. I just loooove when them mofos using FF come here and rate opera one, which means that it is the worst possible. Is it really worst or u just dont like it that much? Bunch of dumb-ass wannabies.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 20, 2008

New version, 9.26 is out today for those of you complaining about stability and other issues in a BETA release.

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 12, 2008

@DaComboMan

No, this is NOT an Alpha. Nor is it a Beta. It's a 'Snapshot' build for development purposes (Similar to FFs 'trunk' builds), as outlined here:

http://my.opera.com/desk...advanced-tab-activation

But you wouldn't know that if you download from Betanews because none of this makes it to their page which is a failing on their part. This is not intended as a stable public testing release, so complaining about bugs not being fixed is totally irrelevant.

But the fact that even in this raw, unpolished state it still outclasses and outperforms every other browser out there is a significant achievement.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 12, 2008

This build is a little buggy but I'm giving it a 5 to offset the 2 idiots (ff fanboys no doubt) who give this a 1. There is no way in hell this piece of software is a 1!!

Opera has been for me:
The safest browser
The fastest browser
Very lightweight
The most feature rich
Very customizable

All of these things are straight out of the box. No need for countless extentions that break build after build to get the same functions that Opera comes with already

Hey, if you prefer something more of a memory hog and sloooow, then you should look elsewhere but if you want a browser that is fast, secure and lightweight then you will love Opera

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 12, 2008

This is one of the best browsers you can use. I do not know where the previous user read imap will be limited, but anyway I do reccommend Opera for browsing, not for email.
Talking about browsing it is faster than anything I saw and safer than any other browser, if that is not enough, it has tons of features: Gestures, blocking system and speed dial worth. Did I mention it is faster than any other browser even when all the functionality buit in? 6/5

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 12, 2008

This is an Alpha!

Still full of bugs.
The history search feature broken a few builds before still hasn't been fixed.

And it seems that if reports are correct, IMAP features are going to be limited in future releases.

Now tell me this a good browser.

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 12, 2008

Been using Opera since version 2x, just keeps getting better like fine wine. THe latest Kestrel is fast. I use Opera for my mail client as well and its exceptionally good in that. Those who rate Opera poor don't know what to expect from a browser. They are hooked on bloat and hype.

Ciolouse

Ciolouse reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 12, 2008

Really nice
65/100 on the last Acid3 Test !

http://acid3.acidtests.org/

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 12, 2008

2 guys below this post, with score of 1 are ret***s. no doubt about it. I have been using opera since ver.6, firefox since early alpha, ie for long, painfully long time, safari, netscape, etc. I actually tried almost all browsers on 3 different platforms (windows, linux, max), since I'm a computer engineer and had to do market benchmarking. Opera is by FAR the best browser out there. Yes, it doesn't support some websites, which were written for ie bugs(yes, bugs). That's it. Everything else is superb.

bolaris

bolaris reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 12, 2008

@Point Zero + Jacoblm

Either you 2 havent tried opera or you are both mentally retarded. People have installed this browser AND tested it AND given it a decent review, are you calling them all idiots???

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 11, 2008

@Chocobito: +1

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 11, 2008

You want a memory hog ->Firefox
You want a malware catcher ->I.Explorer
You want surf the web ->Opera

JACOBLM

JACOBLM reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 11, 2008

A loser still trying to hang on.......

Point Zero

Point Zero reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 11, 2008

Of course is getting "better and better"...

Ain't no big deal to get some cheap crap "better and better"....

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9789 Beta on Feb 11, 2008

Gets better and better! Faster than lightning!!!

All latest news, what's new and the builds themselves can be found on Opera's official dev blog: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

ctk

ctk reviewed v9.50 Build 9770 Beta on Feb 4, 2008

i find opera very easy to use and easily customizable when you can figure it out. it has nearly all the features that you need extensions for in firefox standard and is web standards compliant. if something is broken it's not opera's fault, its the web designer's fault for catering to one specific broken browser. i have been using opera since opera 6 and haven't looked back since. i have tried firefox and really, i'm not impressed with it. its a good alternative browser but has none of the functionality out of the box like opera has.

what upsets me more is that opera is trying to cater to the firefox user by changing names and shortcuts so they are universal.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v9.50 Build 9770 Beta on Feb 3, 2008

I've been using opera 9.25 on my LG E500(new). It started out just fine, but as time went on opera, as in the past versions became buggy and unstable.

It often crashes, for example,when bringing up Gmail on screen. My secondary browser is Netscape navigator and it's far more stable. One would think that Opera would be as solid as a rock after all these years. But, once again it has proven to fade after a fast start. Therefore, I'm truly weary of even trying 9.50.

pjb

pjb reviewed v9.50 Build 9770 Beta on Feb 2, 2008

Works really well, nice and fast. Not really had any issues with any sites not rendering with this browser recently. Perhaps web developers are using correct web standards at last!

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.50 Build 9770 Beta on Feb 2, 2008

flexy amazing

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.50 Build 9770 Beta on Feb 2, 2008

Nice complex, well thought-out, balanced Opera fanboy reviews sandwich mine's ...
& two below: Yahoo site blamed for Opera not interfacing well with it(same often said for parts of AOL Music site, as well as sites with Active X) instead of 'the other way around'... why do just about all other browsers NOT suffer from that? Are they ALL wrong & Opera the only one right?

Lame coding, disparate standards & security holes abound-- but these are not excuses for Opera: all its competitors have overcome those obstacles for years now-- it's been way more than enough time already for Opera to have stepped up to the plate.
This is not saying that Opera doesn't have some useful innovations, but they go to waste because it can't be utilized as a default browser...one has to switch browsers for some sites-- that wouldn't be so bad IF all browsers utilized the same cookie, history, links, faves, pw, autofill, autocomplete locations & standards. This is why Opera's future is limited, cloudy, destined to remain a niche product for a niche audience segment... until & unless it changes course.

No sane business would ever even consider Opera in a work environment.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9770 Beta on Feb 1, 2008

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.50 Build 9770 Beta on Feb 1, 2008

Yahoo! mail doesn't seem to work, but then again it never really has in Opera, mostly because Yahoo! produces lame code. Slashdot works fine Dragging links from Digg.com onto the desktop worked first time around but not again after that. Infact dragging links in general seems problematic with some websites causing the cursor to end up selecting text instead. Still cannot drag a link directly into a folder. Also seems to hang waiting for for more things to come down the pipe with some web sites. I really want this to kick ffx3's a** but right now i don't see it doing that.
@horsecharles. Despite you ranting and raving about others i don't see a review from yourself. Only critisism for others' reviews. So how about reviewing the software? Did you try it? As for Yahoo! if you knew what you were talking about you would have realised that on several occasions Opera have had to inform Yahoo! of non compliant javascript and HTML. And yes, Yahoo! does try its best to discourage Opera users. It is well known that they are a pro MS company.

fuhayer

fuhayer reviewed v9.50 Build 9770 Beta on Feb 1, 2008

4 point for Opera, 5 point for FF. Opera can be an alternative for FF at the moment. let's see what will be happen in the next versions !

white lightning

white lightning reviewed v9.50 Build 9770 Beta on Feb 1, 2008

Excellent browser & well supported .
Only flaw IMO is the popup blocker , it could be improved a lot

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.50 Build 9755 Beta on Jan 29, 2008

ALL downloads are broken with this beta. Argh!

Jammerdelray

Jammerdelray reviewed v9.50 Build 9755 Beta on Jan 26, 2008

Opera Beat firefox 2 but is not going to beat Firefox 3, Firefox 3 has blazing speed which will be even faster in the final version, no memory leaks like Firefox 2 and the list goes on.

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v9.50 Build 9755 Beta on Jan 26, 2008

Since when is FF Java based? lol
Firefox is the best, think of the add ons only, think of the bookmark tab... and much more.

bolaris

bolaris reviewed v9.50 Build 9755 Beta on Jan 25, 2008

After a hard days work, there ain't nothin better than kicking back,rippin the head off a crisp cold beer,and then firing up opera. oohhhyeeeh.

ipanaya

ipanaya reviewed v9.50 Build 9755 Beta on Jan 25, 2008

this build is close to final! Enjoy!

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9755 Beta on Jan 25, 2008

I wish I could live wihout it, but I just can't :(

Best browser ever. Way faster than java-wannabe called FF. Way more configurable. Love it.

guti

guti reviewed v9.50 Build 9755 Beta on Jan 25, 2008

Ian C. shortcut keys are totally configurable at your own.

munga42

munga42 reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 21, 2008

Thats because Opera sticks to 1 window instead of spamming a window for every download. I consider that a good thing..

pforbes

pforbes reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 20, 2008

Very good. But I wonder why must I keep open the Opera main window to avoid loosing my download. If you use IE or FF you may close the browser and the download keeps going on in the background.

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 19, 2008

It's ugly and doesn't use any of the standard key shortcuts that just about every other browser uses. Also unfortunately it isn't support by a large number of Web 2.0 sites. On the upside, it offers the fastest browsing experience. Only reason I even have it installed is for compatibility testing.

guti

guti reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 19, 2008

Build 9745 is IMHO, the stabler build of 9.50 released after the official beta.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 19, 2008

This is an Alpha build if i'm not mistaken.
So, i wouldn't push on it too much.
They're probably trying to iron out things and in computer related issues, i'm sure there's alot of trial and error testing going on.
Take the History Search feature when typing in the url field. Until the previous two versions it was still on.
The bookmark sync feature is still glitchy as far as i'm concerned.

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 19, 2008

I'm an Opera user through and through, so this is not slamming for slamming's sake. This revision will not allow me to download about half the time with a 'cannot find xpcom.dll' error message. I went back to the last beta and looked at the files. There is no xpcom.dll in its build, but no problems with downloads.

I used to program, so I know the frustration, but it does seem like there has not been much progress in the last couple of revisions. It's almost as if the author is not keeping a close watch on the revision builds.

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 18, 2008

i use firefox and opera simultaneously

my #1 tipp of the day for opera customization: delete search.ini and add a directory named "seach.ini" to the installation folder. so you get rid of the default seach engines (ebay amazon.com) and installation wont be able to add them again. just keep your custom seach.ini file in profile directory.

here is a list of pros and cons that are on top in my mind:

opera advantages:

+ faster & more convenient/intuitive in most routine tasks like window management; adding/changing searchengines. type F2 for adressbar and search bar (keywords) + history + bookmarks seach in one box. this dropdown thing will stay unmached by any FF extention, performance wise.
+ links panel is better than FF linky extention in FEW situations (should have support for regular expressions and save a history).
+ customizing toolbars & co is verry easy. everyone can learn to edit ini files or the skins.
+ better sidebar+bookmarks management (much more responsive and accessible)
+ vertical tabs on the right side. more toolbar flexibility in generall.
+ no matter how much useless features they add (like mail/chat/torrent) opera becomes more performant, not more bloated. supperior programming style, like utorrent.
+better zooming
+better toggling of javascript/plugins/cookies etc with custom buttons. one button can do many things at once. you dont have to code pages of java script to get some realy smart buttons.

opera disadvantages

-there will allways be one or two bugs that are actually really bugging, if you stay with latest builds.
-no rectangular selection, no html copy.

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firefox advantages

+ more reliable on some fancy heavy sites
+ cool menu features (dragndrop of bookmakrs into a prescise menu position, right click, deleting ...)
+ linky extention better than opera's links panel in most situations.
+ toogle toolbar visibility based on mouse hoover
+ some very unique and usefull addons, no doubt.
+ better management of userstyles (stylish extention)

firefox disadvantages:
- XUL is nuts. no average user can or wants to code his own XUL extentions, not even for the simple tasks like those you could achieve in opera.
- most skins can't hide XUL's clumsiness.
- XUL is f**king slow. it's the azureus of browsers.
- allot of extention features should be in it by default.

poundsmack

poundsmack reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 18, 2008

@ fuhayer

so you don't like opera and think firefox is a step ahead becasue when you open a new tab it takes you to that tab and you do not like that, is that correct?

perhaps you have not seen the options directly below "open in new tab" that says "open in background tab."

so 5 starts for opera, as it is fast and very easy to use and has all the features i need. anyone who can read a drop down menue will love this browser! :)

fuhayer

fuhayer reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 18, 2008

to : poundsmack

of course not only for that "open tab in background". but also for speed. i tested both of opera beta and FF beta many times on same sites and found that FF is faster. i like opera GUI but have to use FF cuz speed and lightening. anyone if able to test technically then would be glad to see the result in rates. but in my eyes FF is 1 steap ahead.

BTW; can we change the speed dial column and rows ?

Steve Austin

Steve Austin reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 18, 2008

Opera rocks. The Adblocker is just as configurable as any firefox add-on, and does not add to bloat..

Right click on a page, click Block Content, change the filter to suit, if you want to include wildcards, you can..

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 18, 2008

FireFox looks java to me and I don't like java apps on platforms where more advanced languages are available.

Opera is WAY faster, WAY more configurable (i really suggest you actually COMPARE the two, u WILL see the difference).

Opera > *

Can't live without it. Opera - my religion!

KRome

KRome reviewed v9.50 Build 9745 Beta on Jan 18, 2008

I really really like this browser but its unusable without plugins. I need adblock plus, im sorry. maybe opera can work with them for a custom version?

5 with plugins, 3 without.

Ain Soph Aur

Ain Soph Aur reviewed v9.50 Build 9735 Beta on Jan 17, 2008

simply the best browser! mutch better tahn firefox

muka3d

muka3d reviewed v9.50 Build 9735 Beta on Jan 15, 2008

Anyone who thinks Firefox is faster or more lightweight than Opera simply has not used Opera. Opera uses less than half the RAM, has an insane amount of features, and yet no bloat.

Every good Firefox feature already exists in Opera, long before Firefox copied it.

Kriff

Kriff reviewed v9.50 Build 9735 Beta on Jan 11, 2008

Faster and more lightweight than Firefox.

fuhayer

fuhayer reviewed v9.50 Build 9735 Beta on Jan 11, 2008

not bad, but prefer FF which is faster and friendly.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9735 Beta on Jan 11, 2008

Can't live without it. Can't browse without it.

WAY faster than FF!

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.50 Build 9735 Beta on Jan 11, 2008

Downloads in build 9721 worked without any issues for me. Anyway, a new build is out now, which hopefully fixes the problems some were having.

The bookmarks bug that stisev refers to was fixed several builds ago.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 9735 Beta on Jan 11, 2008

@stisev: All works fine for me with all latest builds under Windows XP and Vista + Fedora.

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.50 Build 9721 Beta on Jan 8, 2008

DO NOT GET THIS BETA VERSION!!!

Bookmark bug is fixed, but downloads are completely mutilated. The whole system is screwed over. The Opera forums are flooded with complaints with users, but the opera devs haven't fixed it yet. 1 star until it gets fixed. 5 stars when it's fixed.

bolaris

bolaris reviewed v9.50 Build 9721 Beta on Jan 7, 2008

I think i've developed a compulsive behaviour disorder by obsessively checking for these updates.

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v9.50 Build 9721 Beta on Jan 5, 2008

Great browser, the best for install ang go. With Firefox you need to install several addons to make it work close to Opera.
Latest FF beta is almost as fast as Opera, but Opera already has almost all I need included, tested and working.
Only lacks a better ad blocker (it has one, but you have to manually block content) and a spell checker.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.50 Build 9721 Beta on Jan 5, 2008

This is what i call speeeeed!
Incoming 9.50 will rock the web

fuhayer

fuhayer reviewed v9.50 Build 9721 Beta on Jan 5, 2008

please do not exaggerate by saying FF even cannot come close. i used the latest versions of opera and FF and for me FF 1 step ahead. i liked opera but FF more convenient to surf on net.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 9721 Beta on Jan 4, 2008

Excellent new snapshot build!

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9721 Beta on Jan 4, 2008

Fastest browser around! FF doesnt even come close!

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.50 Build 9721 Beta on Jan 4, 2008

The fastest browser. Great and highly recommended

Kriff

Kriff reviewed v9.50 Build 9721 Beta on Jan 4, 2008

Working flawlessly. It's fast and stable.

bolaris

bolaris reviewed v9.50 Build 9716 Beta on Dec 28, 2007

Remember to configure your FIREWALLS after every release update. I have found opera doesn't like being blocked, it crashes and freezes. I know a few people have complained of this problem, so do a check before posting :p

Firewalls do see (well the good ones) each opera release as a foreign app and will stop it dead.

Lands

Lands reviewed v9.50 Build 9716 Beta on Dec 24, 2007

Fixed images loading bug and Gmail works again. The best snapshot until now. :)

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 9716 Beta on Dec 22, 2007

With each release, Opera continues to show me how much it sucks. It also continues to bring all of its annoying fanbase out of the wood work to trash the other alternative browser....which is FAR superior to this junk in every way.

guti

guti reviewed v9.50 Build 9716 Beta on Dec 22, 2007

sturgess, as stated on Opera Desktop blog, this is not a beta, nor a disaster, but a developer snapshot.

improvelence, hoe we can see your own web browser soon. If it is far better than Opera, Honestly, I can't wait for it.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 9716 Beta on Dec 22, 2007

Still a few kinks to work out but there are a lot of exciting improvements done in this version. A nice christmas surprise!

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v9.50 Build 9716 Beta on Dec 22, 2007

Computer froze, CPU running at 100%. I was unable to get Opera to close and had to use Windows Task Manager. This ain't a beta it's a disaster.

finalcut

finalcut reviewed v9.50 Build 9716 Beta on Dec 22, 2007

simple the best browser ever made period!

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9716 Beta on Dec 21, 2007

Fastest browser ever. Can't live without it! :D

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 9716 Beta on Dec 21, 2007

Excellent new build!

All javascript issues with IP.Board/vB are gone with this latest build.

christ999

christ999 reviewed v9.50 Build 9716 Beta on Dec 21, 2007

Very good and fast browser.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 9694 Beta on Dec 19, 2007

9.25 is out.

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.50 Build 9694 Beta on Dec 15, 2007

NOW I can go back to giving Opera 5 stars! The bookmark link exchange bug has been fixed (finally! after 6 months)

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v9.50 Build 9694 Beta on Dec 15, 2007

I returned to v9.24, 9.5 still unstable.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9694 Beta on Dec 14, 2007

#1 browser. theres simply nothing faster!!!

same question: how to remove tray icon? I NEVER used opera mail nor irc or other crap.

decmk

decmk reviewed v9.50 Build 9694 Beta on Dec 14, 2007

Great Work.
btw how to remove tray icon, i don't use mail.

bobad

bobad reviewed v9.50 Build 9694 Beta on Dec 14, 2007

Such a beautiful GUI, and so much potential! But I wish the developer would add tab groups, search aliases, and other modern convenience features found in Maxthon.

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Dec 10, 2007

Opera is hands down the best browser, but STAY AWAY from the beta versions until they fix the unbelievably annoying "bookmark swap icon bug"

oRoFLash

oRoFLash reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Dec 5, 2007

Opera is the Browsers'King. It's simple, fast and secure. No problem with memory uses. It's very customizable too. Simply it's the best!

No hay dudas, Opera es el mejor de los Navegadores de Internet. Sencillo y simple. Es muy configurable y no hace mucho uso de la memoria de tu ordenador.

aepasa

aepasa reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Dec 2, 2007

As always Opera rocks.
Rating: 6 out of 5!

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Dec 1, 2007

#1!
morriscox and others: people, get a life. This is BETAnews, how in the world can u lament about things like bugs?! DONT UPGRADE, if you dont want any trouble. Good lord...

morriscox

morriscox reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Nov 30, 2007

When I upgraded, it wiped out the History and Sessions. Annoying. Now I'm less likely to upgrade.

Edit: Diam0nd seems to be clueless about the point of a review.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Nov 30, 2007

Separate install working again perfect.

If crash scroll back and read my install method that working without crash anymore.

It seems workers repairs this little bug.

Opera beat all other browsers I think for at started this project until today and I hope in the future.

I dont know why finished open saved sessions from other folder then profile temp, why when working perfect at 6.x very fine. Be good work again and dont must copy wth my own hand in file explorer.

But its my problem.

Thanks for Opera team good work.

Rating:5(high)

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Nov 30, 2007

At least it didn't crash my machine like the Firefox beta. Still not as good as the 8.50 versions. As to all this talk about speed, if you have a modern computer the difference in speeds between the main browsers is irrelevant. Still prefer IE7, then Firefox, and finally Opera, and I speak as one who has been using Opera for the last three years so no daft comments about being a troll please. I'll give this beta 3 and a 4 for the proper version the same as I gave the proper version of Firefox. With regard to the security bit, Opera is probably safer as only a dozen or so folk use it the bad guys give it a miss, only joking must be at least a couple of dozen users by now.

decmk

decmk reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Nov 30, 2007

Great Beta! so far so good No Problem at All.
BTW how to remove tray icon, I don't use mail client?

MikeTechno

MikeTechno reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Nov 30, 2007

This is an excellent browser that just keeps getting better and better with every update/relase. Every bit as good as (and in some ways even better than) Maxthon, Avant and FireFox). I install this on every system I run. It never dissapoints.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Nov 30, 2007

@improvelence
Supported by a knowledgeable fan base who can read Secunia reports that say its the safest. Ugly?? Um looks just like others in their default state and there are plenty of skins. As for being slow.............well I really have no response to that because I can't see how anyone would say that (ever try to start firefox up?). Funny thing is that this has more downloads than the latest firefox, safari and maxthon so maybe not so small fan base after all

The most important things to know about this browser is that it functions out of the box the way other browsers do only after adding plugins and it does this while using far less memory. There are some plugins for firefox that add functionality I would love to see in Oprea.

The only knock are the few sites it still can't render properly but they are few and far between.

This beta is quite stable for me and I've never had reliabilty issues with the final releases

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Nov 30, 2007

@improvalence

I like so much this kind of high added-value contribution, so typical of a troll. Poor moron.

Opera has very significantly improved with the last 2 builds, but it's still a beta. I rate it as a beta.

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v9.50 Build 9681 Beta on Nov 30, 2007

@improvelence - let me tell you that you are stupid ;)
The fastest browser.
The safest browser (secunia.com)

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 9665 Beta on Nov 29, 2007

Still a piece of crap supported by a very small fanbase. Slow, ugly, etc.

Vetta

Vetta reviewed v9.50 Build 9665 Beta on Nov 28, 2007

The 5 rating is for it being that good as a Beta -- the rating would be lower if it were a final version.

I (mostly) like what Opera is doing and use the Beta a lot. Opera has been my default browser for a few years, but it isn't perfect or even suitable for everything I do. I don't have any browser that is.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.50 Build 9665 Beta on Nov 27, 2007

Working fine again only on 9613 update for me,
install method scroll down please.
I testing 2500-3000 alpha beta and final software continous
I not talking anybody off topic sorry

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v9.50 Build 9665 Beta on Nov 26, 2007

Metshrine:- "Where did I claim that I used firefox? I use IE7/Maxthon. But thanks for assuming everyone out there bad mouthing opera is a firefox user. Great assumption. Also, why not rate a product down based on something other products can do? Its called competition. If you want ME to use YOUR product, show me why I should. If it doesnt work with what I already use, or doesnt present an easy conversion path, why should I waste my time and money (yes, time is money to a few people) switching?"

Me: Uuh, mate, I didn't suggest anywhere in my post that you in particular used a particular browser. It wasn't directed at you specifically, sorry to burst your bubble of self-importance there. Read it again, slowly, and without jerking that knee and you'll see that Firefox is only mentioned within the context of an example I used regarding the unfair and one-sided criticisms people generally make about this browser. If anyone is making assumptions around here, it certainly isn't me...

Unlike the obvious trolls who pop up, kick Opera and pop off again to await the next version to do the same, you've at least have taken time to point out which bits of Opera you don't like, even if your '-1 for every bad bit' scoring system is worse than pointless when there are only 5 on offer. I still feel there should be a bit more balance of what you DO like about the browser, but generally I have no beef with you specifically.

I will, however, accept your point about not wanting to switch from Roboform if a) you depend on it for hundreds of logins and b) you've put money down for it. I also agree that the Wand is far from being the perfect tool and could use some serious upgrading for those that want to use it a serious login manager and form filler. But aren't you opening yourself up to a spot of hypocrisy by telling people not to mark Opera up for the dream of what it could be, when you are marking it down for your disappointment/frustration at Opera not doing what you clearly think it should do? That was my point about Firefox: no-one marks that down for not having an integrated email client. It's never even an issue. So why the constant *obsession* with Roboform among these reviews?

MikeTechno

MikeTechno reviewed v9.50 Build 9665 Beta on Nov 26, 2007

I think this is an excellent browser. I tested it using some of the pop-up testing web sites that are out there and it came up #1 in my tests against Maxthon, Avant and FireFox for pop-up stopping and blocking. Now, Avant is my favorite, Maxthon would be second and Opera would be third, FireFox fourth, just based on overall ease of use and usability. I wish Opera would have that same easy page zoom feature at the bottom that Avant and Maxthon do so well. It has that feature, just not as mindlessly simple to get to as the others.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9665 Beta on Nov 26, 2007

Works PERFECTLY for me

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.50 Build 9665 Beta on Nov 26, 2007

This is a beta, rather than an alpha, then?

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 9656 Alpha on Nov 25, 2007

Still disappointing, still ugly, still a POS, still overrated. Bravo.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9656 Alpha on Nov 19, 2007

Best browser out there, but what really DOES suck about it and its developer team is plug-in support... As in no AI RoboForm :(

Tygas

Tygas reviewed v9.50 Build 9656 Alpha on Nov 19, 2007

Shell32.dll error? WTF?

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.50 Build 9656 Alpha on Nov 19, 2007

@GrantTLC

this is still an alpha release! so wait for 9.5 final!

compare this one with firefox 3.0 alpha ... this opera release has less bugs and works better ...

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v9.50 Build 9656 Alpha on Nov 18, 2007

"I've been an Opera user for a long, long time. Very few bugs have bothered me to the point of refusing to upgrade; the new 9.5 "bookmark alternating" bug has driven me to that point.

As far as I know, I will probably never upgrade again until they fix it. If they don't, I'll reluctantly give Firefox another try, but I really don't want to."

The Bookmark thing was incredibly irritating, I grant you that. I very nearly gave up on the weekly builds myself at that point. But it has been fixed for a while now. Give the latest a whirl and see how you get on.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 9656 Alpha on Nov 16, 2007

who uses safari unless they HAVE to anyway. 9.50 getting better and better...

godofthunder

godofthunder reviewed v9.50 Build 9656 Alpha on Nov 16, 2007

This build has addressed 9649's issues, keep up the good work!

MAGUSG - Please rate the beta, not the dream you moron.

internetworld7

internetworld7 reviewed v9.50 Build 9656 Alpha on Nov 16, 2007

In light of Safari 3 beta for Windows, is Opera even relevant?

magusg

magusg reviewed v9.50 Build 9656 Alpha on Nov 16, 2007

Ok, the last two reviewers are idiots, if alpha/beta quality releases arent cutting it for you, logic dictates that you should go back to the last stable and wait for the next one. I'll agree the stability and quality of these releases has been iffy at best, some better than others, but still, it is alpha quality, so you really can't complain. However, I see a lot of progress in these releases and a final product will come to be soon enough, the Kestrel Rendering engine is fast...

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 13, 2007

"There's nothing irks me more than people marking down a perfectly good product based upon what other products have/can do that Opera doesn't, when it clearly doesn't happen the other way around. Firefox doesn't have its own mail client, but does it get marked down for that? NO."

>>> I've been an Opera user for a long, long time. Very few bugs have bothered me to the point of refusing to upgrade; the new 9.5 "bookmark alternating" bug has driven me to that point.

As far as I know, I will probably never upgrade again until they fix it. If they don't, I'll reluctantly give Firefox another try, but I really don't want to.

godofthunder

godofthunder reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 11, 2007

This beta (9649) is unusable, to the point I had to download firefox.
I am real pissed cause I hate the fact i need to go through the tedious task of downloading crumby firefox extensions to get it the way opera works, that includes installing an email client also.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 10, 2007

fast, save, user-friendly

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 10, 2007

There's nothing irks me more than people marking down a perfectly good product based upon what other products have/can do that Opera doesn't, when it clearly doesn't happen the other way around. Firefox doesn't have its own mail client, but does it get marked down for that? NO.

Roboform and Firefox's beloved Extensions are the main two I keep seeing being b****ed about over and over again next to '1 out of 5' scores along with comments of 'I see no reason to leave X until this happens'. But here's an idea: rather than crying and wailing ad infintum for Roboform to be allowed to integrate with Opera, how about we flip this over and start requesting upgrades to the already existing Wand function? I mean, it's practically there already, isn't it? Wouldn't you prefer to have a system in place that you don't have to load up separately? That comes built inside the browser? That way opera gets to keep their browser closed, which seems to be how they like it, and you get what you want in terms of passwords and form-filling.

Something to think about?

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 10, 2007

metshrine - couldn't agree more on your rating thoughts - however, the "overall rating" process on this site is flawed. You can't compare apples to oranges. The "rating" should be reset for each release.

I haven't encountered any problems with this release other than those documented.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 10, 2007

Do you all not understand what a review site is? A review is supposed to be on the version posted, regardless of whether or not it is an alpha/beta. You dont rate what the product tries to be, you rate what it is in its CURRENT state, its CURRENT release. If everyone rated products based on either the latest stable version or what the new version ASPIRES to be, then you would never have any ratings other than 5 on any product because "Oh, it aspires to be x y and z."

That said, opera is a failure in my eyes for several reasons. This version does crash, it does it frequently, and yes its a known issue. This is actually not limited to just this version. The last final version still crashes on heavy ajax/java sites. It fails to render some very popular sites properly (ala slashdot, try posting a comment or registering an account). Thats -1 for me.

It does not support auto-complete in an attempt to shield the end user from himself and the case that someone else logs in as them and uses their browser. Again, -1 for the lack of a choice for the end user.

It does not support third party addons. I have been dying to use roboform with opera for years, as have many users as can be seen here: Link
You will see that posts requesting support for this SINGLE addon (you can search and find several other thousand addon support requests) date back to 2001. This again is done to protect the user from themselves and reduces the amount of choice they have when customizing their browser. Yes, you can customize the UI to no end, but that is a very small portion of what addons would allow. I am not talking adding a firefox type extension system, but allowing third party code to interact with the browser. Again, a simple option to turn the whole system off for paranoid users can be implimented by about 5 lines of code (a simple if-then statement with a boolean comparison). So, -1 for another forced security measure that is more suited for the overly-paranoid and protecting the user from a choice they can make themselves.

Opera does not allow the user to edit or view stored passwords in the browser's wand feature. Instead, if you want to change a password, you have to go through the process of removing a saved password and resaving it. If you dont do this, you are then presented with two separate login entries with no way to distinguish between the two if you didnt change usernames. Again, -1 for a feature designed to protect the user without an option to make it otherwise.

So, -4 out 5. That total 1. I can go on and show you why it deserves a -12, for bugs and problems I can count right off the top of my head. 1/5

EDIT: In response to grant

Where did I claim that I used firefox? I use IE7/Maxthon. But thanks for assuming everyone out there bad mouthing opera is a firefox user. Great assumption. Also, why not rate a product down based on something other products can do? Its called competition. If you want ME to use YOUR product, show me why I should. If it doesnt work with what I already use, or doesnt present an easy conversion path, why should I waste my time and money (yes, time is money to a few people) switching?

Why should I waste my time switching to the wand? I spent time AND MONEY on roboform. I have over 400 passwords saved. Am I going to sit there and retype those into opera's wand? Does opera import roboform passwords? No to both questions. That is the primary reason I will not tell a roboform user to "Just switch". Its not even an option. Also, I have made several pleas for upgrades to opera's wand function and form filling functions (which consists of simply adding every conceivable field into a notes files with opera, not exactly a real solution, I am sure you can agree). The pleas I have made, as well as others on the opera forums, have gone ignored. If you search opera's forums for wand password editing, you will find it has been ignored since the beginning.

Also, why is forcing a user to use only built-in features a good idea? I am sorry, but the idea of a web browser is something that, to most people, is a personal experience. If I cannot truly personalize my browser, then I do not want to use it. Opera forces me to only use built-in features. It does not allow me to expand it if my needs change. I am locked in.

Now, as you would say, something to think about?

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 10, 2007

will stick with 9.23 build 8807 until the latest beta is more stable. i like opera for its speed.

guti

guti reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 10, 2007

analphatester, Do you know what an alpha or beta is?
Do you know the difference between beta, and final?

eProfitsMaster.com

eProfitsMaster.com reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 9, 2007

The alpha/beta version is only for Opera maniac. If you want play save use the released version.

With Opera 9.5. Now i can open Yahoo mail in new format....

the.illidan

the.illidan reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 9, 2007

this is Beta not Alpha version

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 9, 2007

We are hard analpha-beta testers.
We never give up.

Safe install 9649 beta procedure here.

1 Download from opera.com 9.5b v9613
this first working v.
Install as new clean install.
2 Download 9.5b 9649
update the working v9613
with it
3 double click on opera icon

TADA
opera working again perfectly
no crash anymore

thats it

pjb

pjb reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 9, 2007

Site problems I have experienced with the previous betas of 9.5 have gone. Well done and thank you to the Opera Team.

guru_v

guru_v reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 9, 2007

Seems to be working fine for me, however I haven't used the mail part of the program yet. Browsing and torrent downloads are fine.

BTW, the installed version lists itself as a Beta, not an Alpha - I know I approached with some trepidation because of that.

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 9, 2007

i love opera.

but the recent speed improvements realy bug me. they have the side effect of rather long moments of total gui-unresponsivness (eg 5 to 8 seconds) during typical events, like opening a tab (site). at least, that's what happening on my system, for any reason.

i hope they will improve it someday, or add some cool options, like mozillas content.max.tokenizing.time ór even network.http.pipelining and network.http.pipelining.maxrequests which seem to have great effect for me. yeah, find myself using firefox quite often, lately :/

the silly bugs with naming downloaded files (+ right extention) suck as well, since i feel that opera has had a broken download manager more often than not, in the past years (when allways using the latest builds)

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9649 Alpha on Nov 9, 2007

Works as charm!

godofthunder

godofthunder reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 8, 2007

Arrghh build (9624) is giving me grief, its crashing all over da place :p. I'm on ffox for now, just too unstable.

8189720

8189720 reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 5, 2007

Great browser, but this version doesn't render all pages correctly and many times doesn't load them completely, but hitting Refresh or the Go button can display the entire page.

Still, the best browser out there.

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 4, 2007

The clear front runner, furlongs ahead of the competition.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 4, 2007

Holy cow, even Yahoo! mail mostly works now. Can't wait for the full release. A couple of things that could make it even more awesome would be something like a split screen functionality. e.g like in word where you can split horizontally or vertically when the page size becomes unmanageable. Those blogs are sure getting long nowadays!
Second, they should make this portable by default. Its east enough to do anyway by yourself but it would be cool if it came out of the packet. Kudos to Opera for what looks like an absolutely a** kicking release!

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 4, 2007

The best browser

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 3, 2007

Bravo Opera, this one works fine, best keeps getting better.

willywonkah

willywonkah reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 3, 2007

What sites aren't working, pjb?

omertocarlos

omertocarlos reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 2, 2007

Best net browser of the world!

muka3d

muka3d reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 2, 2007

Opera is unstoppable.

ZombieREA

ZombieREA reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 2, 2007

Does it supported for Ajax web site ?

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 2, 2007

I have to say that Opera rocks! And it is going better and better!

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 2, 2007

Well, amazingly it really DOES keep getting better and better. Love it.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 2, 2007

Awesome !

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 2, 2007

I agree that it would be nice to have Roboform work with Opera but the wand also works well. I use Robo with Maxthon part of the time and I would pay for the full version if it worked with Opera as well.
I don't know if there are still some site rendering problems anymore with Opera as I have not run into any for a long time. That was the only thing that stopped me from using it as my default.....works fine now and I look forward to every update.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 2, 2007

No problems with this release - still the best (in my book)!

pjb

pjb reviewed v9.50 Build 9624 Beta on Nov 2, 2007

Since this went into beta, I have found some sites that render incorrectly. Whilst this was in Alpha there was not this problem. Not sure what they have removed between the Alpha and the Beta. The sites concerned still work with the Alpha version and 9.2

I have reported my findings in the official manor and await their response.

willywonkah

willywonkah reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 30, 2007

I've been waiting for a long time to synchronize my bookmarks on my phone and PC!

By the way, Opera does not just suddenly lose your bookmarks so if they are missing you probably did something wrong.

Oh, and Opera can't support Roboform, it's up to Roboform to support Opera. It's not like Opera can rewrite Roboform to support it!

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 30, 2007

Changelog: http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w950b1.html

jethro5

jethro5 reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 26, 2007

Don't know how they do it, being such a small company, but they make the fastest and most feature-filled browser, and that is using less memory than IE or Firefox. Opera FTW!

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 26, 2007

Yay! The first beta! The best browser around.

securedemail

securedemail reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 25, 2007

My default browser. Has more features than any other browser in the world.

Wintings: Roboform is a rip-off of Opera's Wand. So there u go.

midnighter_9999

midnighter_9999 reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 25, 2007

Still having problems going to some sites..

But otherwise.. Very Good Browser..

Lands

Lands reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 25, 2007

Stable (for a beta), incredible fast, low on system resources. My default browser.

Wintings

Wintings reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 25, 2007

Until they incorporate support for Roboform I shall not be switching to Opera.

vinczej

vinczej reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 25, 2007

After build 9603 I was unbelieving. It got a lot of new bugs. But the developers repaired these bugs. The new (planned beta) build is correct again. I love it! :)

godofthunder

godofthunder reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 25, 2007

Keep up the tinkering!
Throw us the beta builds and we'll keep testing!

This browser is awesome.

darkripper

darkripper reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 25, 2007

I can't wait. Cmon Opera team release the final version :-)

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 25, 2007

Fastest Browser

[these versions are just for testing]
[read known issues @ developers page]
[to ses what is not working]

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 25, 2007

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 24, 2007

@RWW: Yeap, widget broken with this two latest builds.

Edit: Read this comment > http://my.opera.com/desk...tidx=350#comment3871859

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 24, 2007

I thought the problems with widgets not opening from the top menu might be fixed. Anyone else have this problem?

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 24, 2007

@jspratr,
@KRome,
@guti,

Oh boys, OMG I can't believe it. How did you do to get it so fast, there's still nothing on Desktop Team ! Well done, guys.

guti

guti reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 24, 2007

If anyone interested, classic installer is here:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub...9.50b_Classic_Setup.exe

KRome

KRome reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 24, 2007

no adblock = no good

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.50 Build 9613 Beta on Oct 24, 2007

No problems with this release - great browser!

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v9.50 Build 9603 Alpha on Oct 22, 2007

I use Opera from started project (about 7-8 years?)
But unbelievable, this version error
opera.exe freeze into opera.exe
I dont believe it, what happened.
All right I back to 9.2

arjesus

arjesus reviewed v9.50 Build 9603 Alpha on Oct 20, 2007

i use Opera since the 6.x version and it has never failed me. secure, fast, good looking and full of extra tools. all i want in a browser.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 9603 Alpha on Oct 19, 2007

@norz: [BUG 290416] Widgets don't work after restarting Opera :)

Known issues in this build:
[BUG 291580] Mails are blank on first click if messages bodies aren't downloaded when fetching
[BUG 291608] Clicking any mailto link will cause a confirmation dialog
[BUG 290416] Widgets don't work after restarting Opera
[BUG 267632] Images don't display when printing
If you used the Brushed Metal skin in the previous release, Opera for OS X will crash on startup
Won't run correctly on Windows 95
OS X version may cause persistent freezes on start-up
POP server cleaning has been disabled: When disabling the "Leave messages on server" option, existing messages on the server are not removed
[BUG 287170] On OS X, UI thumbnails have black backgrounds when using native skins
[BUG 184894] Native OS X UI elements cannot be used in skins
[BUG 286384] Yahoo mail is broken
[BUG 280261] Removing messages from filters does not work
[BUG 213115] Queued mail is sent at the next check, instead of waiting for manual action

norz

norz reviewed v9.50 Build 9603 Alpha on Oct 19, 2007

Can we hide the widgets from the windows taskbar with this version? :)

Avion Airplane

Avion Airplane reviewed v9.50 Build 9603 Alpha on Oct 19, 2007

I love it

Pantagruel

Pantagruel reviewed v9.50 Build 9603 Alpha on Oct 18, 2007

Actually, just to play the devil's advocate, PRoBiSoNe has a point. Opera is known for suddenly losing the bookmarks. It happened to me before at least twice, and they were not alpha releases.
On the other hand, PRoBiSoNe, back up your bookmarks, stuff happens.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.50 Build 9603 Alpha on Oct 18, 2007

@ PRoBiSoNe

stop trolling around, guy. It is an alpha, if you understand what it means. Secondly, the bookmarks issue, first seen in yesterday's snapshot, has already been corrected in today's one, as well as many other bugs. So don't try cheating.

Already good for an alpha.

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.50 Build 9603 Alpha on Oct 18, 2007

PRoBiSoNe - How STUPID ARE YOU?
Fileforum - Why the HELL would you post PRE-ALPHA releases and not post perfect, stable 9.24 release?? Since when are you pre-alpha.fileforum ?????

muka3d

muka3d reviewed v9.50 Build 9603 Alpha on Oct 18, 2007

To PRoBiSoNe:
This is an PRE-ALPHA build, not meant for the general joes! Opera's own snapshot site even says:
WARNING: These are pre-alpha builds: they contain the latest changes, but they also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, they may not work at all.

In any case, Opera is as good as can be imagined...

7/5

PRoBiSoNe

PRoBiSoNe reviewed v9.50 Build 9603 Alpha on Oct 18, 2007

LOST ALL BOOKMARKS, PASSWORDS, SETTINGS, ETC. from previous install of Opera! This is BS! I cant believe this. What a hack! This just earned Opera a place on my s**t list!

Kriff

Kriff reviewed v9.50 Build 9603 Alpha on Oct 18, 2007

Opera passes the Acid 2 test again.

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.50 Build 9600 Alpha on Oct 17, 2007

Don't evaluate these alphas! as even a beta-quality product. For 9.24 I give 6/5.

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.50 Build 9600 Alpha on Oct 17, 2007

Opera developers really listen to you. Is just another part of the Opera experience!

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.50 Build 9600 Alpha on Oct 17, 2007

Yay! Only a couple of days after the last build they've released another fixing (inter alia) the problems with bookmarks I mentioned yesterday.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.50 Build 9600 Alpha on Oct 17, 2007

Is BetaNews becoming AlphaNews ? As said below, a new stable version, 9.24, has just been released today, which is the one to use for production.

9.5 alphas are still at very early stages and buggy, lacking major basic features. This has to be fully understand before any try.

Kestrel is really fast anyway.

darkripper

darkripper reviewed v9.50 Build 9600 Alpha on Oct 17, 2007

Opera is the best browser

New kerstel engine rocks

However all these are weeklys

Are just for testing

Lets see the next week which will be a beta

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 17, 2007

Opera 9.24 was released today. It's better for everyday use, as 9.50 is still in very early alpha stages.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 16, 2007

Odd. If I click on a bookmark I've placed on my toolbar this build crashes every time. If I choose a bookmark from the menu nothing at all happens. If I go to "Manage Bookmarks" then double-click on a bookmark, Opera opens the site. This only happens today; I used the new build yesterday and didn't notice any such behaviour. Still, it's an alpha ...

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 15, 2007

Synchronize Bookmarks settings and mail RULE!!!

phhvn

phhvn reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 14, 2007

this build can't run link in bookmarks

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 14, 2007

Totally useless. Keeps crashing unlike to last few releases.

soulutionswe

soulutionswe reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 14, 2007

I agree with bgronas, this build just keeps crashing on me - unlike the last two or three previous one´s. However, from what I've seen Opera 9.5 will replace FF as my main browser once it's done.

bgronas

bgronas reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 13, 2007

this build is super unstable compared to the last one. wait for the next. Apart from that, Opera is the best and fastest browser on earth, and I will never change to IE or FF

cap.ahab

cap.ahab reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 12, 2007

i find its a bit more of a hassle than firefox. but it's a wonderful browser regardless.

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 12, 2007

Great improvements. No more crashings with this build in vi$ta.
Ad blocking feature is included, but you will have to "mark" contents you do not want to display. You only have to right click a page background and select "Block content..." from the contextual menu. No plugin needed.
It works, I think a good idea to implement is to allow the downloading of a precomiled list to avoid most of the manual blocking for every site. There are some good sites offering compiled blocking lists (adblock plus anyone?)...
The fastest engine even faster, 6/5

adam.yao

adam.yao reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 12, 2007

this revision cannot open the links in bookmarks. This is unbelievable.

jafo818

jafo818 reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 12, 2007

Anything for Opera similar to Adblock?

Donzy

Donzy reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 12, 2007

Opera always on the forefront of browser development - these are Alpha releases, so treat them as such - final will be awesome !!!

A note to "sturgess" - don't go on line when you indulge in mind altering substances - you just make your name "ASS"

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 12, 2007

#1
Even on those aplhas/betas I have next to none crashes.
LOVE IT!

darkripper

darkripper reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 12, 2007

They are making a new engine. These versions are not for using them but for testing. These are weeklys. Lets see how opera will be when first betas will come out.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 12, 2007

The first alpha was the best, slowly going downhill since which is a pity. Will wait for a stable beta before I try again. The latest "proper" Opera is a poor thing as well, we need a return to an 8.50 and soon. Firefox becoming more of a disaster by the build, they really should have left these two browsers well alone. The only browser to have got better is I.E.7, I'm lovin' it, no crashes, a really nice browser.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 12, 2007

read known issues:

http://my.opera.com/desk...tant-searching-and-more

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 12, 2007

No problems with Betanews here. But this new build is verry bad. Opera crashes when clicking bookmarks in Personal bar! Im not alone:

http://tinyurl.com/ys5u2f

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.50 Build 9594 Alpha on Oct 12, 2007

Sorry to say but this build is only so-so. Many webpages (including Betanews.com) are displayed incorrectly. To be honest, most of them. Try a little bit harder, Opera!

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.50 Build 9562 Alpha on Oct 9, 2007

@eclipsingdivinity: For skins, tips, tweaks, addons, userjs, and many more! > http://www.neowin.net/fo...ex.php?showtopic=548527 (Neowin.net)

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v9.50 Build 9562 Alpha on Oct 5, 2007

Back when the 8x series released and they finally took the ads off from Opera, I was both amazed and displeased with this browser.

At one of the spectrum you have a light, easy to use browser and at the other end you have this frustrating rendering engine that had many problems displaying my favorite websites. It was one of those 'close but no cigar' scenarios.

Now finally having an excuse to use Opera again (Firefox update kept hanging so I uninstalled for the time being)I decided to give it another shot. Major thumbs up to the improvements in rendering quality since version 8 - it apppears to display pages on equal to IE7 and Firefox (which some exceptions) and to top it off it finally feels like the fastest browser on earth. Speed Dial is fantastic and the entire experience is much improved.

4 Stars for steadily improving this software without any hitch. Every year I become more and more impressed with Opera and it is only a matter of time before I leave Firefox and find something lighter (like Opera).

- 1 star for lack of add-on support for popular enhancements like Site Advisor. + rendering isn't fully perfect yet with heavy AJAX and flash websites.

godofthunder

godofthunder reviewed v9.50 Build 9562 Alpha on Oct 3, 2007

TOP 5 reasons why "bobad" gave this a 1 rating.

He:

1) has to spoil it for everyone.

2) can't count to 2 yet.

3) has ..1! compulsive bahaviour ..1, 1. disorder 1, 1, 1.!

4) came up with the result after an in-depth, exhaustive 3 month cross browser compatability analysis.

5) got confused and thought 1 is best rating

Nyx

Nyx reviewed v9.50 Build 9562 Alpha on Oct 2, 2007

Bobads review IS a joke. The stable tabbed browsing has been and is one of Operas strong points. It is the main reason why I've been starting to use Opera more and more. You can always rely on getting back to where you where with Opera.

andyman37

andyman37 reviewed v9.50 Build 9562 Alpha on Oct 2, 2007

Bobad you must be joking right? Opera no more secure than IE7 you say!

According to Secunia,the highly respected security monitoring site,this is the up to date state of play with the two browsers:

IE7: Has 10 advisories,the most serious being highly critical,with all patches installed.

Opera: Has NO advisories(as usual).

There is no comparison between IE7 and Opera.

bobad

bobad reviewed v9.50 Build 9562 Alpha on Sep 30, 2007

In spite of what horsecharles says, I think Opera is a lovely program. The GUI and icons are just yummy. However, I can find no compelling reasons to use the program. It is not faster than IE7, nor is it more secure. It certainly doessn't render more pages accurately than IE. The tabbed browsing is primative compared to Maxthon and FF, so it doesn't win any points for convenience. I am not a FF or IE fanboy, and will use whichever browser or IE shell that does the most for me. That simply is not Opera at this point, but some day it could be.

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.50 Build 9562 Alpha on Sep 28, 2007

Long time user of Opera. Up until this build,
Opera for Windows 9.50 Build 9562 Alpha beta, every one was superior to the one before.
This build will not let you browse. Reloaded it, same thing. Using Maxthon also and they were equally fast until this download.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.50 Build 9562 Alpha on Sep 28, 2007

kerstel is really fast

thumbs up!

5 out of 5

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v9.50 Build 9562 Alpha on Sep 28, 2007

I use Opera, always have. Also use Firefox and I.E.7. Opera was the best up until about version 8.50 and then it started going downhill. Today I find on my machine no difference in speed between these three browsers. I.E.7 is the best for my needs, unfortunately although I have never had a problem when using it, always at the back of mind I know it is probably the least secure, and as a result of this belief I still go with Opera 9.23. I have tried all the beta versions of Opera and swiftly deleted them, a bit of fun but that's all, give them a try and then go back to a proper browser. Firefox was good but is like Opera going downhill fast, if only I.E.7 could convince me it was now as secure as the others,and it would be my default in flash.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.50 Build 9562 Alpha on Sep 28, 2007

To combat fanboy attacks--

1. the issues i bring up have always been present, whether in versions 6,7,8,9... irrespective of mode: final release, alpha, beta, caca, pre-release, preview, pre-preview, rc, pre-caca, pre-pre-caca....

2. i'm not a hater-- fix the issues i & many others have brought up for years-- and we'll be the first to praise it to high heaven(in fact, if anything, i tend to give out too many 5's).

And guess what? Its share will consequently then rise up from current niche numbers.

I personally would love nothing more than to be able to utilize it in present work environment, but many shortcomings prevent me from doing so--i wouldn't be able to ligically justify giving Opera even a middle of the road 3 rating.
Lo siento mucho.

PS
LOL seems like i'm following/countering Diam0nd reviews.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9562 Alpha on Sep 28, 2007

This alpha works like a charm for me!

eek-1

eek-1 reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 23, 2007

Quite faster, bugful, messed my email inbox and drafts, doesn't save file with the correct extension, right-click doesn't work at times, seldom misplaced webpage ads..

Best keep your version 9.2 and stay away from this one until it's past alpha.

tinderkill

tinderkill reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

So...because its an alpha we shouldnt rate the build posted? Wrong.

This build still crashes on ajax sites, still has issues with several sites loading properly and still has no way to support common functions in most major browsers (iexplore, firefox, k-meleon, safari, etc).

3/5 for what it currently is, not what it strives to be or what it could possibly be.

sparskter

sparskter reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

Superb Browser! Opera is a very advanced/technological browser. Lets stay away from "worshiping" here. Get the facts! Opera is: (very) fast, configurable, stable, secure, small footprint, etc!

This is alpha, I know. Indee it is pretty good :)

superb job :D

artisanicview

artisanicview reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

For improvelence: WE are not payed by nobody to make review and we are not fanboys, just peoles excited beacouse they findit THE BEST BROWSER ON EARTH. I tryed ALL the browsers that are running under Windows and all I can say, no one can stay in front of Opera. Ah, and butaway, this is only an Apha preview.

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

"slower than other browsers". No way you tried this browser!

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

Improperly does things, ugly interface, slower than other browsers, not enough plugins, on and on and on and on. Give it a rest, this thing sucks. The only reason I have it on my machine is to make sure my website works properly with it to satisfy its extremely small but loyal fanbase.

And the guy below me is way to excited for my tastes, I smell an Opera employee....

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

Best browser on earth.
It is hard to improve even more what was already GREAT. Well, Opera team made it (again). This last build has some quirks, but hey, it is an alpha! You know you may encounter problems and we should report them to authors, that is the way development works (Except for Microsoft, which release garbage and take hundred of dollars for you to test their buggy bloated crap).

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/

Works as good as Adblock extension for FF, lets not forget, this is Alpha, not stable and therefore prone to bugs, for stability use 9.23, as for site compatibility, been using Opera since version 2x and till now, I have rarely come across sites not working with Opera, its the fastest and most secure browser and I won't want them to change in anyways, for those who don't like it, there are many other alternate browsers out there, suggest they stick with those.

dpcdpc11

dpcdpc11 reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

i dare any of you to browse illegal sites using Opera... you gather quite a fine collection of little viruses on your machine if you don't have a good AV solution... and as for the FF extension.. are you kiddin me dude?!?!? it doesnt even come close to AdBlock Plus which has already a huge data base of adds gathered over the time... i know that FF works in a similar way.. but i have to block manually every dirty add from every site i visit... why should i do that when i got adBlock plus?? and you should check out people to see which browser is indeed the most secure... but i tell you this.. it ain't Opera!

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

Using this build is smooth as silk. All the issues I noticed last build - Wand not working, downloads not saving file extensions, bookmarks not sorted in name order, etc - have been fixed, and I personally haven't yet come across a site that doesn't render properly.

It's an Alpha build that - for me - runs better than any final build of any other browser.

As for the crashing reported by m0user: I've never ever seen Opera crash on XP: perhaps using Vista is your problem...(also, please try not to review an ALPHA build product - this is actually a Weekly snapshot release - and then complain about bugs. Kindly come back when they release the final build.)

And horsecharles, where do I even start? By your logic, NO browser has ever had a final release, since all browsers are continually being updated for security, bugfixes and additional features. See that huge download button for v9.23 on Opera's main page? That's right, A FINAL BUILD.

Cretin.

m0user

m0user reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

This is a review site, if you dont know what that means, dont use it. This software is buggy, lacks features found in EVERY OTHER BROWSER, and still fails to render a lot of pages properly. I love the browser but it doesnt support the following:

A. Autocomplete of address field or text fields on web forms (They claim security)

B. Roboform (or any 3rd party addon for that matter). This means I am limited to what the dev's feel I should use and I can't truly make this MY browser.

2/5. -1 for being buggy and crashing about 2-3 times a day (never had firefox or IE crash since I've had vista installed, almost 4 months), -1 for lack of API for 3rd parties, -1 for no autocomplete.

If you dont understand what review site means, please wait and use a site like download.com

GrantTLC, kindly come back when you realize that this is a review site and that I am entitled to review the product in its CURRENT STATE, not its last STABLE build or its last major release or for what it ASPIRES to be. Plus, Opera is claimed to be vista compatible, so please don't play that card since if it crashes on vista solely for it being vista, then it truly isnt compatible.

pjb

pjb reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

Works really well. Nice and Fast.
Really good browser.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

kerstel engine is really fast

there are many things to be done

but there are in the right way

keeeeeeeeep going

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

I think that some frustrates write here.

Opera = eternal beta/alpha? Well, Opera v.9.23 stable was released on the 15th of August 2007, which means that around a month ago! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_browser

The more popular items the better they are? Well, Ferrari, Porsche and Lamborghini do not share this point of view. I also think that Britney Spears is not better than Holst or Britten. I also think that "Mein Kampf" and "The short history of All Russian Bolshevik Party" is one of the best books because by far more popular than most "so called masterpieces". But definately the best book written in the 20th century was "Quotations from Chairman Mao Zedong" http://en.wikipedia.org/...rom_Chairman_Mao_Zedong

halc

halc reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

Opera keeps improving. This is a bleeding edge ALPHA version. If you don't know what that means, DON'T use it.

The shared best (with Firefox) browser getting better.

BTW, it's NOT in constant beta. There are new final releases more often than for FF/IE and they work!

If you do not understand what ALPHA/BETA release means, use the OFFICIAL latest FINAL release.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 22, 2007

You are right horsecharles, it boggles my mind, too, when someone can say: "this is full of bugs but I give it a 5 because I love it so much :)" It is buggy and still does not render many pages properly. It has potential but needs a lot of work before it gets serious consideration from me.

*EDIT*

Yes extremist fanboyz, I do understand what a alpha or beta release is, but it does not mean that the software deserves a 5 rating because of how well it could work or how well it once worked. I rate it based on its current state, just as you people should be doing, too.

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 21, 2007

Opera seems to be in constant beta mode.
Finish it!!!!
I don't care for the interface & how you have to do your settings in this browser. It's always been a pain in the behind & still is. When software is in constant beta, something is not right someplace. I give it a 1 rating because I can't stand it and uninstalled it after using it a couple of times. I do know what Alpha/Beta means. It would be nice to get a final release if it ever gets to that stage of development.

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 21, 2007

horsecharles, how can you be posting at "Betanews" if you don't understand what an alpha is? I expect EVERY alpha and beta to be buggy, no matter if Firefox, Opera or IE - or ANY software.
What a rampant ignorant.
If only mods were awake...

By the way, this alphas have been very buggy to me, contrary to past experiencies with ALPHAS that have been release-solid. There are lots of changes under the hood, so i guess i'll be loving Kestrel. Good work!

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 21, 2007

Typical fanboy review:

"This release's got a ton of bugs-- but that's excusable, as it's in alpha-- so lay off my browser."

Ehhh... how many years has it been in complete retooling/makeover, beta/alpha status now?

"It's the best browser out there!!!"

Judging by market share, no too many others would agree... so either you're an Einstein among the clueless masses-- or.....

There must be a vast webmaster conspiracy out there-- for years Opera can't render many sites correctly, while most competitors can... or MAYBE Opera should shed its proprietary leanings-- nothing substantially wrong with trying to be individualistic, BTW, but after years of not getting one's system/formula to work... come on.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 21, 2007

Works great for meh!

Ain Soph Aur

Ain Soph Aur reviewed v9.50 Build 9542 Alpha on Sep 21, 2007

there are a lott of problems with the ALPHA 2:

- downloaded files have no extension
- emails are visible as "read" but there are "not read" (not every email)
- the email client is VERY slow by showing the numbers after the folders --> Received (12)
- sometimes if i tipe something in my Google field (right side of adressbar) opera opens a other page but not the google search
- sometimes opera is "frozen" for seconds
- a lott of usernames/passwords are not saved in WAND
etc.

but i love the browser, really the best out there!!
and for the guys saying: "comeon, its buggy as hell..." HEY, IT ALPHA!!!! what do you expect! there are a lott of dumb people out there...

donce

donce reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 20, 2007

Opera for Windows 9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 - has some improvements but appears some bugs:
1. Downloaded files are without extensions.
2. Sometimes Opera lags when opening new tab or writting in address bar.
3. Somtimes Opera crashes by clicking on download links.
Anyway I love Opera and hope it will be the most stable and fastest browser.

visible0

visible0 reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 19, 2007

What can one say, OPERA is put together with a seemingly complete thoughtfulness as features make it easy for a human to control their choices. Well organized as not to confuse the user
IDEA i sent OPERA ~2months ago am now posting for sevenload to try and implement. Idea is in a picture presentation at the links at the bottom of this comment.
creative yet useable functions:5
crisp interface [ease of icon use]:5
deep internal views of pages as with author mode:5
my oldest savings account just found had money [ i opened at age 12...closed at ago 17 ] had $4.23cents
avgD total=4.8 avgd to 5

http://en.sevenload.com/...seveload-idea-001a-IHLs

http://en.sevenload.com/...seveload-idea-001b-IHLs

ratpackid

ratpackid reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 17, 2007

This really is getting to be a good browser. The site compatability seems better, but it still has a little bit to go. I try this browser everytime there is a new version and I usually end up uninstalling it within a half hour. I think I will keep this one for awhile.

Rikrdo

Rikrdo reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 16, 2007

Opera is the only worthy web-browser available.

Note: Build 9523 is not Alpha2; it's a post-Alpha1 instead.

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 16, 2007

I've been an Opera since beta 1, but I would advise everyone to avoid the new alpha versions like the plague. Granted, it's alpha, but it's still riddled with bugs.

The bookmark icon-moving bug (ANNOYING ^ 50) is still there even with the new version!

Xssshell

Xssshell reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 16, 2007

I would give this piece of software 9/10 Stars, but unfortunately there are only 5 stars ;)

It's IS definately the fastest, most secure, most compliant and overall best browser on the world.

And I'm not a fan boy! I go and use only the best sofwares, regardless of price and company name.
And Opera is FREE & HOT!

As Developer I can do whatever I want, and NOTHING slows me down, except the EXTRA Stylesheets for "Internet Explorer 5-7", because IE is just crap! And Firefox is not optimized for Windows, it is and will stay a LINUX BROWSER!

best regards
.X4

hariskar

hariskar reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 15, 2007

5 is not enough for this great browser.. For those who think IE7 or Firefox are better or quicker, here is the link: http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/
(Kestrel is Opera 9.50)

fuhayer

fuhayer reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 15, 2007

good browser. also the speed dial is feature is very good idea. really works.

Babayaga

Babayaga reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 15, 2007

Just the best browser for Windows, nothing come close.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 15, 2007

I have used Opera for many years,but it's no longer miles ahead of the opposition like was once the case. Although it is my default browser if I.E.7 was only as secure then it,and not Opera would be my browser of choice. I.E.7 is every bit as fast on a modern computer, it does not crash any more than other browsers. So when a fan tells me it loads a couple of seconds faster than the speed of light, I will tell him I don't care. Firefox is equally as good, just in case you thought I may have lost the plot, but then K-meleon is an excellent browser and probably the fastest of the bunch. But if all were as secure as each other then I would have no problem saying I.E. 7 is a class act and wins by a short head.

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 15, 2007

Question from improvelence :I cannot understand how this ** ** *** has so many fans?

Answer:Performance and usability.

Working well so far.But some issues still there..

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 15, 2007

Simply the best. These alphas work ROCK SOLID for me.

Tao2005

Tao2005 reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 15, 2007

LOL Hit opera with your worst remark. IE is the most unstable browser known to the Microsoft world. Opera is very stable, and not as volunerable, as IE.

The UI isn't very attractive, but looks awesome. Please not, that 9.5 is still in beta, and this is why it's still buggy.

Opera is highly customizable, and offers many features. You can make it look like IE, or you can make it, to look like Netscape 4.0. Also with tons of themes supporting it.

If 9.4 is awesome, 9.5 will be even better. If you are looking for a stable version of this, then 9.4 is for you. I'm waiting for the final on 9.5

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 15, 2007

@improvelence: Each to their own I suppose.

I personally find it to be the best browser and this new version has much improved page rendering.

As a side note this IS NOT an Alpha relese, it is a weekly snapshot release.

Alpha two is probably a month or two away.

That said, this is still an excellently stable build that I haven't had crash on me yet.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 14, 2007

The most unimpressive and overrated browser I have ever used.

HoIIywood__

HoIIywood__ reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 14, 2007

Awesome. Although to call this "Alpha 2" is a lie.

It's Alpha 1, with some additional fixes. It's a weekly release, not a milestone release.

KSzostek

KSzostek reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 14, 2007

Still way to many unresolved issues.

maria_madonna

maria_madonna reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 14, 2007

one level up than ie
many levels up than ff

ryanvm

ryanvm reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 14, 2007

Nice to see APNG coming to Opera

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 14, 2007

I didn't think Opera could get much faster, but it can!

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 14, 2007

The best there is.
Var vekke fra Opera ei stund men er tilbake nå, og jeg syns at det er en rask og bra browser.
Anbefales på det varmeste.

Terumo

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.50 Build 9523 Alpha 2 on Sep 14, 2007

People! Don't use alpha builds to evalute opera overall!!!!!!!!!!!!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 12, 2007

I am addicted.

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 10, 2007

Fantastic browser I cant live without

Kriff

Kriff reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 7, 2007

Needless to say, this build is really fast. It's been stable so far and it uses little resources.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 6, 2007

It appears they're never going to solve the page rendering problems. I'm staying with seamonkey.

hello5

hello5 reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 6, 2007

its v good the last reviewer is wrong.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 5, 2007

I cannot understand how this pile of crap has so many fans.

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 5, 2007

Beyond doubt,opera 9.5 has become faster!
http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/
Site worked even more but not that stable yet.(alpha)
waiting for the final:)

pola

pola reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 5, 2007

i think that opera v 9.50 alpha have a chance to beat all previous versoins. its v good.

(1)Its fast.
(2)Mail problems reduced.
(3)Low resource usage.
I also want to give some suggestions:
(1) A little hang problem is present.
(2)Sometimes when a page is loaded it suddenly becomes blank and then loaded again.
in all its v good i hope i will give 5 to v 9.50 final.

DarkRats

DarkRats reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 5, 2007

Anyone know of Flash and Shockwave plugins that will work with this version? I'm not having much luck.

Lands

Lands reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 5, 2007

Could it be a faster surfing? Well apparently, in Opera 9.5 it is.

muka3d

muka3d reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 5, 2007

This is an amazing release, and has been long-anticipated.

Even though it's an alpha, it is incredibly stable and faster, much more so than other browsers, even those that are beyond alpha or beta status.

The best just keeps getting better, leading the pack in terms of features, performance, and quality.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 4, 2007

Really very impressed. Unbelievably stable, fast and smooth and it's only an alpha ! The difference with 9.23 is huge. Now a must-have.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 4, 2007

woooow impressing!!! it works very well for an early alpha, page rendering has improved a lot!

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 4, 2007

New aplha of long-awaited Kerstel core. Read more here: http://my.opera.com/desk...ing-kestrel-development

pjb

pjb reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 4, 2007

Installs and works very well.
Nice browser.

DaveGB

DaveGB reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 4, 2007

Very nice. Still Alpha, and has some bugs to iron out, but VERY fast, and site compatability has been improved lots.

It's also supporting many CSS3 features now, and the bookmark sync behind the covers is excellent. I would expect the Opera Mobile to be able to pickup these sync'd items very soon!

manogamez

manogamez reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 4, 2007

Opera is still the fastest and most reliable browser available. With a footprint smaller than that of other browsers, Opera still retains all of their functionality (and even more). Mouse gestures make surfing a breeze and built-in ad blocking cleans up the internet for you. Every new release I'm expecting the same features and some improvement on bugs but I'm always surprized when the Opera team goes the extra step to give the browser new features never seen before.

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v9.50 Build 9500 Alpha 1 on Sep 4, 2007

cooool.
read release notes. its "kestrel"

"This is an alpha version of Opera. Use only on properly backed up computers and do not install over previous Opera versions"

and

"does not currently run on Windows 95B"
lol, whatever, i dont recently run on windows 95B

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.23 Build 8808 Final on Aug 24, 2007

pola

pola reviewed v9.23 Build 8808 Final on Aug 22, 2007

i love opera the fantastic browser.
i give 5 to this version 9.23.but i think that build 8805 is best.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.23 Build 8808 Final on Aug 16, 2007

Number uno!

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.23 Build 8808 Final on Aug 14, 2007

Cute features and other add-ons don't matter to me nearly as much as browsing speed and page rendering, both of which take second place to FF 2.0.0.6, at least with my setup. Opera is very good in other areas, but I will stick with FF for now.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v9.23 Build 8808 Final on Aug 14, 2007

This still has rendering problems, but it's probably the fastest browser available. I still think Seamonkey is the best browser.

BNut83

BNut83 reviewed v9.23 Build 8808 Final on Aug 14, 2007

Its absolutely pathetic that some people actually gauge a user's IQ or competence based on whether or not they use Opera. Haha, get lives people.

On the related topic, Opera is a solid, lightweight browser. Aside from speed, I'm not sure its tops in any category. Its one of the three browsers I keep installed, but I use it the least of the 3.

sparskter

sparskter reviewed v9.23 Build 8808 Final on Aug 14, 2007

Great Browser!!!
Superb speed and takes low system resources. They need just to improve ad/content block, something like ADBLOCK PLUS in Firefox:

#1- https://addons.mozilla.o...n-US/firefox/addon/1865
#2- https://addons.mozilla.o...n-US/firefox/addon/1136
#3- https://addons.mozilla.o...n-US/firefox/addon/4364

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.23 Build 8808 Beta on Aug 10, 2007

Maxstep,
You're not doing yourself any favours with the personal attacks. Just because you support Opera does not give you the right to attack the person that gave a perfectly legitimate opinion of the software. Either grow up or get out of the forum, or we ask admin to remove you. Simple really.

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.23 Build 8808 Beta on Aug 9, 2007

Worthless gimmicks????? Use firefox... or probably you'll be even better using ie, because your stupidity falls out of range even of a firefox user.

CT2001

CT2001 reviewed v9.23 Build 8808 Beta on Aug 9, 2007

Used Opera 99% of the time for the past several years, but recently gave up after the introduction of worthless gimmicks like Widgets and Speed Dial. Opera has vallen victim to the common software dilemma known as "creeping bloat."

nightwolf

nightwolf reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 9, 2007

8807 had widget issues i think.
8808 is on their blog.
http://my.opera.com/desk.../yet-another-9-23-build

lgjivic

lgjivic reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 9, 2007

why was build 8807 removed? :roll

SamppaX

SamppaX reviewed v9.23 Build 8807 Final on Aug 8, 2007

Well, I have been jumping between opera & Firefox a lot. And much say that there isn't a actual winner.

Both are amazing browsers. I'm currently using more Firefox but I really liked Opera and miss some of the features like Speed Dial™ for example.

Somehow firefox is actually quicker than opera on my comp, actually kinda wondering why. I didn't even have widgets ( oh btw, Don't use widgets I think they aren't that good and can take some performance ) and I use some add blocking addons on firefox and still running great ( opera has also add blocking capabilities but take alot more time to tweak ).

Final: " Try Both ( Opera & Firefox ) and choose best for your usage. You can't go wrong with your choice " =)

oh and btw "maxstep". That's why firefox is so popular in most cases. =) for example I don't even use half of the features that are in opera. =) But I don't mind going one site and get one adblocking addon and that's it... so... well that's why I told my opinion/suggestion to try both. =)

and "hap8192739", I would actually remove irc because I have another "Full featured" program for it. But yes, you are right some people love the All-In-One thingie. I just hate when they put all these things on browser. Think about it... Browser = websites. But if that feature takes little usage/performance then It isn't a problem.

Soon We see browser with skype features and stuff... hehe. Pointless efford. ^^ And file size goes up to 40-50m.

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.23 Build 8807 Final on Aug 8, 2007

Remove widgets and IRC? Go get firefox.. - nothing is bundled. I love opera for being a true all-in-one internet utility. Unique example of being all-in-1 and not being bloatware. Keeps getting better and better!

hap8192739

hap8192739 reviewed v9.23 Build 8807 Final on Aug 8, 2007

that would be a major mistake to remove IRC

Many people enoy the all-in-one approach

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.23 Build 8807 Final on Aug 8, 2007

No problems here. Made it USB portable in about 10 minutes. Runs completely without a flaw.
Totally superior to FFX
Things i wish they would get rid of
(1) Widgets
(2) IRC
Things i wish they would add
(1) Extensions as per FFX (but yes, i'm aware of security issues)
(2) Page Preview like IE7 (tile is not the same!)
(3) Jabber/multi protocol chat client like Miranda
(4) Import/Export of Wand files as XML (so you can transfer to things like KeePass)
Things i wish they would change
(1) The default skin, it's bloody terrible. I'm using Marina which looks nice and clean, never mind the pink!

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 7, 2007

I haven't used opera for ages, so I thought I'd give it a shot. I've been using Firefox for quite some time, but this version of Opera has replaced it as my main browser.

Opera has come a long way.

Alnag

Alnag reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 6, 2007

Great as always. But I am looking forward to new features of Opera 9.5 (code name Kestrel).

PaceyPimps

PaceyPimps reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 6, 2007

Luv it its still the best and most features.
Wish list.
1. For google toolbar to work like IE7 or Firefox where you can change tab without changing to another google sidebar. And to add the add provider feature.
2. Spell check on eveything including address bar sidebar, everything on the browser like Grand Paradiso Alfa 6 all the time, ect..
3. Vista 64bit version.
4. Self install of flash as a plugin like IE deos or Alternative built in Flash

Almost perfect program

GeekK

GeekK reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 6, 2007

This build (weekly btw, no beta) fixes some crashers found by stress-testing the javascript engine using Mozilla's jsfunfuzz tool.
See: http://my.opera.com/desk.../03/fun-with-the-fuzzer

eaves

eaves reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 6, 2007

So what is new and great in 9.23 that wasn't in 9.22? Is there a link to a changelog?

gchenry

gchenry reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 5, 2007

@coover: I made a solution for your startsiteproblem:

I used a slightly different approach but this is easier.

http://www.opera.com/support/search/view/174/

hell0

hell0 reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 4, 2007

Best browser there is.

No complaints at all about it. 9.5 is also looking to be quite impressive, Cant wait.

MickyFoley

MickyFoley reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

@coover: I made a solution for your startsiteproblem:

Type following into your startsite field:

javascript:window.open('http://SITE_1', '_self'); window.open('http://SITE_2','_blank');

If you want more, then you simply add

window.open('http://SITE_3','_blank');
window.open('http://SITE_4','_blank');
window.open('http://SITE_5','_blank');
window.open('http://SITE_6','_blank');
etc.

after window.open('http://SITE_2','_blank');

What are the funtions?

- javascript: - command needed to execute the script
- window.open - command needed to open the window
- http://SITE_1 - This is your 1st site you must enter to open
- _self - command needed to open the 1st site in the 1st tab
- SITE_2 - This is your 2nd site you must enter to open
- _blank - command needed to open a new tab for the new site

greetings :)

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

coover,
The functionality is there already. Create a folder for the bookmarks that you wish to open as "home pages", Then from the bookmarks menu, go back to that folder and at the top you will see an option "open all folder item". This will open all the links you put into that folder. Done.
Change log anyone?

ljepava

ljepava reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

at this moment in time, opera is best browser. period.

only problem i had with opera is bad support with download managers but when i discovered oget extension my biggest complaint was gone :)

oget homepage: http://lexi.ucoz.ru/

MinuteMaid

MinuteMaid reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

@coover Look into sessions more. It does exactly this, there is a session manager dialog when starting Opera, if you prefer to work this way. You can save any set of tabs as a session, or open up the last used session.

coover

coover reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

My original review on this version is below the line.

Please understand that I know I can open multiple pages with Speed Dial, with Session, and by creating a special bookmark folder. These all work well, But they don't do what I want them to do. They are work arounds. I want the browser to open to specific pages immediately when the browser is opened, even if those pages were not open the last time I closed the browser. I do not want to have to do any extra clioks, not even 1! I can do this with other browsers. Why is it so difficult (actually impossible at this time) to do this with a wonderful browser, Opera? I consider this one fault Operas weakness at this time, and with this not possible, i will continue to rank Opera as a 4. Not fair? Maybe. But it wouldn't take a huge coding job to fix this and make me happy. If you guys in Norway, the land of my ancestors, are reading this, please fix this. I've asked for it in your forum, I've asked for it here on betanews. It should be an easy fix. DO IT!

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A great browser gets even better with the addition of Speed Dial ... but spped dial isn't quite what I want. I want multiple home pages, where when I open the browser, it will open, without any intervention from myself, certain pages (including betanews.com) that were not open when I last closed the browser. hurzx suggested that I read the tutorial on one of the great features of Opera "Sessions". I have done so, but it still does not allow me to open up several web pages that were not open when the browser was last closed by simply opening the browser. The feature can be easily accessed in IE 7 and most IE clones. Even Firefox allows this option, though it is harder to set up (to set up in Firefox, tab all the pages you wish as home pages and then click on "Tools", "Options", go to the "Main" tab, and click on "Use Current Pages".

Opera is a great browser. Speed Dial is fantastic. Sessions is very, very good. But Opera still needs Multiple Home Pages.

I rate it a 4.

b0mmel

b0mmel reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

Great browser which hardly ever let me down. Ergonomically and speedwise superior to any other browser on the market.

Nevertheless I agree with the other reviewers that the Opera programmers should put M2 and the IRC client to sleep. Those old horses did their duties. This thunderthing from Mozilla doesn't get developed further either. With all the good webmail services the benefit of desktop mail clients for private users isn't what it used to be.

adamlau

adamlau reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

And just what type of false-positive test is this?

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

Opera has become too bloated to call itself the so called slim and fast browser. In the test i did, Firefox came in first, than Seamonkey. Than Opera and good ie7 last.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

I am really getting sick of FF fanboys coming here and crying about rendering issues when FF has them too. Then they have the nerve to complain about speeed?!?!?! Are f'n kidding me?!?!?! If you actually took the time to 1)test the speeds yourself or 2)Look at independent tests, they prove quite clearly that Opera is much faster than FF all while using way less memory.

Safe, fast, lightweight and inventive all sum up this browser that just keeps getting better

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

I like opera fast load and render but I wish it had addblock plus, like firefox has, I read their fourms and I know their is a way to do it, but, I wish it was built in.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

I've used Opera for more than 5y. Very good browser for speed and security. Very stable.
However, it cannot display some sites which is annoying. Because of that I use another browser, K-Meleon, which is even faster but has not so many features.

@ coover.
Oh guy, you made me laugh so much ! It's so good. What you seem to be looking for has been there for years in Opear. It is called session. See a tutorial.

FoxHound

FoxHound reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

I've been using Opera for almost 4 years and I must admit I'm completely pleased with it.

It works almost flawlessly, and every version brings greater improvements.

There is an option of multiple homepages, at least I consider that to be the Speed Dial, and even much more creative and innovative.

6 out of 5.

Xssshell

Xssshell reviewed v9.23 Build 8805 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

Advantages:
- very fast load times
- very secure + antiphising
- best rendering engine on the market
- ntlm support
- 9.25 gonna support full CSS3, know you can be yealous

Disadvantages:
- some bad coded websites don't work in Opera
- some old javascripts exclude Opera, due to browser sniffing
sorry I can't find any other bad things

I'm honest and tell you the truth:

Opera is the only browser that passes the ACID2 test, even Firefox 3 Alpha doesn't pass it.

Oh, for the IE fans: "You still don't pass, sorry guys.."

Opera was commercial in the past and it was revolutionairy, it didn't had the bugs other browser had. But it other weird bugs that were annoying.

However they learned from the past and made the most secure and fastest browser in the world.

There are very very rare moments when I encounter problems while developing websites with Opera, much less than Firefox and yes not comparable with any IE.

But I'm pretty sure you'll not see any rendering errors anytime while developing websites in Opera.

As one reviewer before me I just can acknowledge what my betanews collegues said:
"I am very pleased by the improvements made recently, and I cant wait to get my hands on the 9.5 betas..."

coover

coover reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Aug 2, 2007

Opera is a very good browser and has some features that other browsers do not. But a feature that Opera does not have and that I require seems to be one that Opera evidently does not intend to add in the future .. that is, multiple home pages. IE 7 has multiple home pages. Firefox has the capability for multiple home pages. And some of the other lesser browsers such as Maxthon and Avant allow for multiple home pages. But Opera? No way!

Opera has a feature that allows the user to keep the pages that were open when the browser was closed to be opened next time the browser is opened. And they consider this to be a work around to multiple home pages. It isn't.

Once I browse the home pages, I close them. Next time I open Opera, they aren't there.

A very good browser gets a 4.

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Aug 1, 2007

Does not release memory properly on my system when closed or exited.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 27, 2007

I am very please by the improvements made recently, and I cant wait to get my hands on the 9.5 betas...

Androidoid

Androidoid reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 22, 2007

I've been using Opera for about 4 years, fastest browser around. It's safe and always on top with new features.

Point Zero

Point Zero reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

Tried it, but keep heading back to Firefox, which is faster and has much more nice stuff (really worthy add-ons)

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

I agree with others on its page rendering issues, which is still at times annoying. It is a fine browser but not deserving of a perfect score. Though I did give it an five on my last review, I was being too kind.

Brian49

Brian49 reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

Yes, it's a very good browser which I use a lot, but the folks who give it a 5 are ignoring the evident fact of continued flawed rendering of some web pages. Only perfect or near-perfect programs merit the highest score.

Dsfargeg

Dsfargeg reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

Best browser out there, beats Firefox and wipes the floor with Internet Exploder.

Avion Airplane

Avion Airplane reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

Love it !!!!!!!!!!

Its the best

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

As a work of art Opera is by far the most beautiful browser. It still has some serious page rendering problems. I've even had problems with it rendering it's own portal page. Opera does not have the resources to allow for failure. It doesn't have a corporate "sugardaddy".

Tao2005

Tao2005 reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

LOL.. Some of the folks that give this program a poor rating, don't even use Opera.

Opera is a glorified browser. With support for IRC chat's, E-mail. Also has several supporting plug-in's. If Ninjeratu would have explored the browser. Then maybe he would have liked it, possibally even better then the heavily flawed IE.

Opera has skins, plug-in's, and Widgets. It Also supports, IRC, Mail, and RSS. Opera is a European browser. It is also more stable then IE and Firefox. Support for Opera goes back as far as 98, and Vista. IE is only XP and Vista.

So If your looking for a Stable browser, and hate the fact that IE does alot of security updating, (cause of the big security hole). Then Opera is right for you.

Opera needs no security patches,nor updates, cause it's a rock solid program, (Unlike IE, Firefox, Mozilla, and many others).

Opera is the best investment you have ever made.

Ray Dorset

Ray Dorset reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

"Besides, ACID2 still gets really screwed up if you change 'page width' and 'fit to width'. GG Opera"

You know that it's not supposed to rerender on parameter changes? Read the ACID2 site before making yourself look silly.

"Note: When taking the test, you should use the default settings of the browser you are testing. Changing the zoom level, minimum font size, applying a fit-to-width algorithm, or making other changes may alter the rendition of the Acid2 page without this constituting a failure in compliance. (Added 21 July 2006) "

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

Absolutely the best. ninjeratu, "Still adding and updating useless crap", what you mean all the stuff that Firefox keeps copying?
FYI there is ad blocking. You just haven't used it. Its a hell of a lot easier than having to add and extension to do the same job. As for the banks not supporting it. That is an issue for the banks NOT Opera. The banks could just as easliy block Firefox, indeed some still do. So get your facts straight first eh?

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

No problems with this build - great browser and spanks the bloats (IE/FF) all the way around - even use it for my banking (imagine that)

ninjeratu

ninjeratu reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

Still adding and updating useless crap instead of fixing the prorietary (non-standard) user interface, extensions/plugins and the rendering issues that's been plaguing it. One of the fastest browsers, but that comes at a price. It's fast because it uses shortcuts when rendering a page. Being 100% accurate on ACID2 and synthetic tests and benchmarks does not mean it's 100% in the real world, kids. Besides, ACID2 still gets really screwed up if you change 'page width' and 'fit to width'. GG Opera.

I wish I could like it, but I still can't. At all.

Poor and counter-intuitive interface.
Lack of extensions and stable plugin support is crippling the browser. Welcome to 2007 Opera, this isn't 1997. Fans will go rabid and froth at the mouth when yelling that the support is improving (or not even needed...). It's been "improving" since 2002...
Someone mentioned that they use Opera to avoid spyware but got malware (but "nothing too bad"...) which just says a LOT about the browser, really.
It's not possible in a layman fashion to add adblocking so any preventive meassures are due to .. yes .. incompatabilities. It's just not able to run enough code to make all pages run properly. Or, more often, it's rendering the page too quickly so it leaves out some code it deems "useless". Which is good when you want to avoid spy- and malware, but is horrible because it's not by design... Having to reload a page 2-3 times just to get all elements in your cache and thus getting the page to render properly is not very good. Not to mention that many many internet banks do not work with Opera, so if you use one you still have to switch browser when using them, making the switch pointless.
Even IE, God forbid, now has easy adblocking features with IE7Pro. Why, oh why, can't Opera add useful BROWSING tools instead of adding moronic widgets and BitTorrent support? Unbelievable.

Opera for my mobile is the best one there is though, maybe because the lack of competition.

tuneslover

tuneslover reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 19, 2007

good for low-speed internet but not for High-speed

JonathanD

JonathanD reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 18, 2007

I switched my kids over to Opera (was tired of running antispyware every 2 days...) Since then I have had a couple of peices of Malware but nothing too bad (Im not actualy sure how the kids are getting it on the machine since its not running IE anymore.....) But the times when I do use that machine its been a pleasure and it works with like 99.9% of the content on the internet !
Wii uses it too but it doesnt seem as good as the PC version.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 18, 2007

Opera beats the living crap out of Firefox and IE. Skin it, customize it, use it and abuse it; Opera just works.

guti

guti reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 18, 2007

If anyone is interested in the international installer for Opera 9.22.8801 (final), can be grabbed from here:
ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/922/int/Opera_9.22_International_Setup.exe

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v9.22 Build 8801 on Jul 18, 2007

8801 is a "final", so no news in the desktopteam blog. i found url for the "CLASSIC installer" http://ftp.task.gda.pl/p..._9.22_Classic_Setup.exe
witch currently links to 8801 . i am using it right now.

Ain Soph Aur

Ain Soph Aur reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 14, 2007

its REALLY the best browser on earth!! :)

christ999

christ999 reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 13, 2007

the best browser in the world

Tao2005

Tao2005 reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 13, 2007

The best browser that I came acrossed. IE crashed my system due to misinstallation. Used firefox for a while, and Then I discovered Opera. Been with it ever sense. Even tried Safari, for the PC.

LOL what a joke. For those of you who wanna try safari, don't go there, to much like IE. Opera is more flexible then IE, Even more stable to. At least if Opera misinstalls, you still have your OS.

Opera may be a glorified IRC/Browser.. Hell it should get 5 more points. The only browser that keeps track of your downloads.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 13, 2007

@horsecharles-"It's so funny to see Opera fanboys here-- heck, the browser can't display some webpages properly!"

Sure is funny to see "fanboys" of Opera here reviewing Opera they should be reviewing FF and it's inability to view all pages and of course there's that little memory issue. Give me a break

Opera continues to move in the right direction which can't be said for my former favorite, Maxthon.

Its light on resources
Has a ton of features
IS the safest browser even if you have IE7 installed(FF can't say that)
It's never crashed on me and in my experiences I encounter maybe 8% of the pages I visit have rendering issues.
But again ONLY IE and its clones can brag about 100% pages working but that comes at the cost of security.

minasinahanmetehe

minasinahanmetehe reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 11, 2007

coover,
Is the "New tab" something better than multiple home pages?
By clicking it you get the page with 9 speed dial pages, which are easy to set up.

coover

coover reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 11, 2007

Great Browser ... lacking one necessary feature that Firefox and IE7 both have, multiple Home pages. When Opera finally adds this feature, I will give it a 5 and will use it as my default browser. Until then, a 4.

maria_madonna

maria_madonna reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 10, 2007

I like that they are working in bittorrent protocol...

These beta versions work very well.

I have no doubt that kerstel will increase the difference gap between opera and ff/ie.

Opera is the best browser. Either you like it or not :-p

animaleecher

animaleecher reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 10, 2007

Way too far from its competitors

darkripper

darkripper reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 10, 2007

the best browser

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 10, 2007

Amazing tool. First thing I install after windows. Or linux. Depends..

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 10, 2007

I have been critical about using Opera for a while now due to a number of the sites that I often use failing to display correctly. I have reported these problems to Opera via a bug report/forum post(s).

I am now VERY pleased to note that this version does not have any of those issues that I have previously noted, so far.

Hopefully I can finally stop using Firefox / IE and use Opera as the browser of my choice.

Excellent release :)

EDIT - Sadly Yahoo mail will not function correctly as both the folder view and display of mail will not work as it should. Both IE and FF is fine. Reading Opera's forums and it does seem to be an Opera fault - score amended.

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 10, 2007

ModderXManiac, if Kestrel isn't even out yet, how can you make this outrageous claim that it will be teh OMG gr3@t3st EVR?!

Go back to your mother's basement.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 10, 2007

It's so funny to see Opera fanboys here-- heck, the browser can't display some webpages properly!

I know the answer most will hurl: it's not Opera's fault--it's the websites' bad coding.

Well then heck, i'll just get me one of a ton of other browsers that can...

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.22 Build 8800 Beta on Jul 10, 2007

Tuneslover, you must not do much online to make the claim that Firefox"Never crashes".

Once Kestrel comes out, Firefox will be owned in rendering speeds once and for all. The only thing that keeps me using Firefox is adblocker and Downloadhelper for flv's. When someone makes these things available for Opera, I'll switch completely, but I probably wouldn't make the switch until Kestrel.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 9, 2007

simply the best browser out there!!!

with social network features like the ones in flock opera would be even better :D hmm unfortunately i can't rate it more than 5 ;)

gnovak1

gnovak1 reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 9, 2007

Why is Opera the best browser:
1.The safest
2.The fastest
3.Never crashes
4.Extremelly simple to use
5.The best costumization possibility
Do I have to carry on?

I use IE7 and Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.4 also.Each of them has itsown good points,but in overall rating Opera beats them all by ease.

The last thing I would like to mention is that Opera is better,but noticably better with each new release!

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 9, 2007

To the poster below----
Hmmm, It loads pages faster than FF so I'm not sure what you mean by "very poor page viewing engine". I've never had an issue checking my Gmail either.

And now I'll add that it uses far less memory than FF. Its safer than all browsers so say Secunia and I've never had a crash.

The built in torrent client has had its issues but it seems better with this build. I also still come accross some pages that do not work properly like hotmail. It loads and looks fine but it just doesn't work right. With that said I still have fewer issues with this browser than any of the others so that makes this the best browser out there.

It's funny how our experiences could be so different

tuneslover

tuneslover reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 8, 2007

Well but it following problems.
1. Very Poor Page Viewing Engine*
2. Sometimes Crashes**
3. No Plug-in (like: Google Notebook like plug-in or Search Bar)

*Opera can't Display even Gmail page properly & Windows Live/Microsoft's Web Site yet.
** Opera's Crashing problem is like Internet Explorer, A PC with Intel P-D Cpu, 512MB Ram, & Windows XP Pro; FireFox 2.x never crashes (it's my experience).

bobad

bobad reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 8, 2007

Nice! Very nice. It's the handsomest browser out there if nothing else. If Opera would add powerful group handling features like Maxthon, I could use it as my default browser.

PJE

PJE reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 7, 2007

Constantly innovating, getting better all the time. I keep trying other browsers for the odd 'must have' feature, but I always go back to Opera after a few minutes...

I'd like to see improved middle click on the personal bar to open all links in a folder.

Dsfargeg

Dsfargeg reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 7, 2007

Easily beats out the other browsers, and Kestrel will put it even farther ahead.

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 7, 2007

Working great for me,didnt experience much crash when hangin around with it.(beta thought)
Worth a try!

Waiting for the next release 9.5 (kestrel),:)
Which will contain many cool new features, improvement of existing features, and lot of bugs fixed.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 7, 2007

I neither can live not work without it. Best browser ever.

tsimpoukis

tsimpoukis reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 7, 2007

Kerstel is the next milestone

Maybe the fastest browser will be faster

waiting...

internetworld7

internetworld7 reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 7, 2007

Opera is simply a great browser. Light, fast and intuitive. Opera 9.5 a.k.a. Kestrel is on the horizon. This up coming major release will include a lot more features and even FASTER web navigation!

With Firefox 3.0 and a beta version of Internet Explorer 8 on the way it will be very interesting to see which browser will truly be the best.

muka3d

muka3d reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 6, 2007

The perfect browser somehow becomes more... perfect!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 6, 2007

Thank you! awesome build yet again.

ILLEGALien

ILLEGALien reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 6, 2007

Changes for betas are always available at: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

Changelog for 9.22 build 8796
* A lot of improvements to Bittorrent. Downloading large files should now work a lot better.
* Bolding of fonts in toolbars and dialogs should now work
* The Silverlight plugin should now work

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 6, 2007

nice but what changes?
what fixes?
whats new from last?

daver18qc

daver18qc reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 6, 2007

At first, you use IE because it comes with your computer. Then, you search for something more and find Firefox. Then you find out that Opera is tha s***z :)

manogamez

manogamez reviewed v9.22 Build 8796 Beta on Jul 6, 2007

Excellent browser with several innovative features including speed dial, browser widgets, panels, and mouse gesture. I also use wand passwords extensively and the integrated RSS reader. FAST

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Final on Jun 29, 2007

The Fastest, most Secure and Compliant (ACID2) browser for Windows. Opera invented Tabs and was the first browser with Pop-up Blocking and integrated Search. Also includes RSS Support, Email, Voice Control and Built-in Bittorrent Support. It doesn't get any better.

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Final on Jun 26, 2007

What's up with Opera being so bloated in its current build? I have Vista and i've seen it run up to 500mb of ram after leaving it on all night with a few tabs open. And even during normal browsing it reaches over 100mb and wont relieve any memory when I go back to one tab.

Otherwise a great browser, but I figured as everyone touts it for being so lean and fast i'd figure something was awry here.

b0mmel

b0mmel reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Final on Jun 5, 2007

I miss the ability to delete older posts on BetaNews. In my last to "reviews" I badly dissed this fine browser without having actually tested it. Shame on me. I won't do that again.

That being said, I'm using this browser for about a week now and didn't had to ressort to IE7 once for pages that didn't work. There were none. This browser renders every page perfectly and scrolling is MUCH smoother than on IE7. The Speeddial (or what it's called - I'm using the German version) became an integral part of my browsing style. The mouse gestures react better than any provided by an Add-on for IE/FF. The page thumbnails when you mouse over the tabs are actually quite usefull. I never imagined I would need them.

I can only recommend anyone to give this browser a whirl. It really is the best browser!

h377r1d3r

h377r1d3r reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Final on Jun 4, 2007

The best browser:secure,light,standardised,highly configureable and modular.
Has mail client, bittorrent client and widgets engine, best of all if you don't use any of these, they are not loaded :) so if you don't setup mail account in M2, Opera will not load load any stuff for mail at startup, the same goes for widets, torrent etc.

cyberpear

cyberpear reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Final on May 22, 2007

This is the best browser, as far as I am concerned. The mail and RSS client need a little work, but are useful none the less. I personally use neither the widgets nor the BitTorrent client (µTorrent for me). The content blocker is great. I especially like the Info panel that has lots of infomation abou the current page (this could be expanded further, though). Overall, a great browser.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Final on May 18, 2007

Mighty impressive! The most stable release I have ever used.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Final on May 18, 2007

5 for browser 4 for M2 it still needs some progress

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Final on May 18, 2007

1st place Opera
2nd place IE7
3rd place i don't know

muka3d

muka3d reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Final on May 17, 2007

The best becomes better with each release.

ShiftedBlue

ShiftedBlue reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Final on May 17, 2007

Still a very good browser. The "block content" feature is nearly on par with the Adblock extensions for Firefox, the UI is ridiculously customizable and fun to fiddle with, lots of quality themes to try.

I'm not crazy about the download manager, though, and the mail and torrent clients aren't really that useful and needlessly clutter up the UI. The RSS reader is a pain to use and feels like an afterthought.

Still my backup browser to Firefox and Flock, but making progress.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Final on May 17, 2007

Simply the best.

Lare2

Lare2 reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 13, 2007

Excellent browser, light on resources and constantly updated. As a personal opinion, i'm never liked the interface (GUI) and think it could be improved

bluefiberoptics

bluefiberoptics reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 13, 2007

I think Opera is a wonderful web browser. However, I do think the interface needs some work. I use both Firefox and Opera!

kyleabaker

kyleabaker reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 13, 2007

9.21 is yet another solid beta for me!

@labassu
If you did not do a fresh install then it goes without saying that you should expect crashes for beta builds. ;) However, I didn't fresh install, still waiting for a crash..none yet. Rock solid.

labassu

labassu reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 12, 2007

I use v9.20 every day.... but this beta version ... crash 3 times in 5 minuts ... :(

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 12, 2007

ModderXManiac: C'mon - the BetaNews staff do their updates during their coffee breaks of their real jobs =)

Actually, I'm hoping their new system will have some check-in system for the admin that makes sure that if a change log is missing or something to that effect, that it is apparent from their side. Completion and consistency is important. However - I think BetaNews' simple design is their hallmark =). It's the friendliest software update and discussion site.

That being said. Opera is brilliant, smart software. I like their speed dial feature - it's a very simple concept that is unbelievably appealing. As a web developer, though, I have stick to MSIE for compatibility, and FireFox for it's rich application development framework and plugins such as web developer.

Opera's widget system is really 'neat' - but it's best suited for an end level browser looking to have fun online.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 12, 2007

Betanews, quit half-assing, here's the changelog.

# Setting font style in the UI now works again
# Larger search field in speed dial, looked a bit chunky on smaller resolutions
# Added Yahoo Answers to built in search
# A number of crashes fixed and memory leaks plugged
# Proxy PAC files now read from system on Windows and Mac
# Windows media player 11 NP version now works without crashing.

If it had adblock capabilities and rendering as fast as Firefox, I'd use it. But for being the only browser not based on Mosaic code, and excellent performance on older systems, 5/5.

Ain Soph Aur

Ain Soph Aur reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 12, 2007

the best browser in the whole world!!!! awsome

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 12, 2007

labassu always install beta version as clean install! You should know this!

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 12, 2007

Can't live without it!

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 12, 2007

simply the best

FoxHound

FoxHound reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 11, 2007

Opera is definitely the best web browsing option, and every day it gets better and better!!

the.batonchik

the.batonchik reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 11, 2007

Love it love it love it

Steve Austin

Steve Austin reviewed v9.21 Build 8776 Beta on May 11, 2007

The Mutts Nuts..

There is some cool stuff coming in Opera 9.5, but 9.21 fixes and makes a couple of tweaks over the great 9,2 release.

I like how Firefox has now implemented a "Speed Dial".. LOL... Much like Mozilla copied the rest of Opera features...

Fr@nKy

Fr@nKy reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 13, 2007

Great!! Even though I use Firefox for my Web Browsing needs, I have to admit that Opera is a great piece of Software and that is superior to Firefox in some Areas however there are still thing I prefer on Firefox. Like the Adblock Extension. I know I can do that on Opera but as far as I know I can't auto-update block lists I have to build them myself while I'm browsing and some ads I don't even notice will never be blocked and if I need to reset Opera from scratch I'll lose months of filtering optimization. That the way Bookmark Toolbar work on Opera (I prefer the way that it works on Firefox) makes me still use the resource hungry and a bit less stable Firefox (even though it's better supported by most web 2.0 sites I use. Neverthless Opera diserves 5 stars just for innovating :P

Lands

Lands reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 13, 2007

Speed dial is so addictive.
The best browser without any doubt. Small, fast, secure.

manogamez

manogamez reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 12, 2007

I'm so in love.
Fast, small, reliable, convenient, powerful, and beautiful.
I now use Opera most of the time and IE7 sometimes for Vista voice recognition browsing. Firefox is a little too bloated for me.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 12, 2007

Small, leightweight and secure, but still very feature rich. What more could you want?

Steve Austin

Steve Austin reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 12, 2007

Awesome. Why would anyone waste their time with IE or Firefox?

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 12, 2007

I'm not really sure that Speed Dial adds anything to Opera. Maybe it's just the way I use browsers, however. It does no harm and can easily be hidden, though. As a long-time Opera user I find it's just as fast, lean, and usable as ever.

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 12, 2007

the best
the faster
the most secure

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

Still lightweight yet feature rich. The safest browsing experience available too(check Secunia)!

EDIT - How anyone can complain that this is a bloated browser with features that are useless is beyond me. Even if you don't use any of the added features this browser still uses less resources than FF with NO plugins and IE. So its a win win really

I run into very few rendering issues except for anything MS related like Windows Update

Perfect as always 5*

jcollake

jcollake reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

Once you've spent time with Opera, no other browser suffices. Opera isn't perfect, but on balance it is a superior browsing experience.

screamin_jesus

screamin_jesus reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

Fastest and most feature rich browser around, much more lean and stable than firefox, love the new speed dial feature.

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

Although Opera is fast and lightweight, as always, I continue to greatly prefer Firefox, the interface of which I find far superior.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

Excellent browser.

Keith Lard

Keith Lard reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

Build 8771 = 9.20 Final

Opera browsing is simply the best experience by far.. Secure also..

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

i like it. 5/5

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

The best by a far shot. Always innovating, always ahead.

Hey, i came up with a nice slogan.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

What gnovack said! And don't forget: customizability.

gnovak1

gnovak1 reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

There are three things that put this browser over the others:
1.Speed
2.Security
3.Functionality
And I tested all the others!
Simply the best!

ljepava

ljepava reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

Great program.
I used IE for surfing (10 years ago), then FF until last year, and now Opera because it has some features built in it which i find necessary for surfing.
Hope it will get even better. Great app.

[deXter]

[deXter] reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

The fastest GUI browser there is!

(and possibly, the most secure too).

The best example backing this up would be the recent Windows Animated Cursor bug- This bug could be exploited using Internet Explorer (naturally :P) and.. even Firefox! However, Opera wasn't affected, and even if your windows was unpatched, Opera users didn't have to worry about the bug!

No matter what sort of Add-Ons you add to Firefox, its never going to be as secure as Opera.

Herb.alone

Herb.alone reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

Hi yokozuna:
This link you refer to English version only: http://mirror.switch.ch/...mirror/opera/win/920/en/ is build 8771

I've been using Opera for years now and it is simply the best browser available.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.20 Build 8771 on Apr 11, 2007

Hmmmm... What can I say really? Simply the best. Accept no alternative. ;| Opera > *

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 10, 2007

Opera 9.20 Final is already available.

International version: http://mirror.switch.ch/...International_Setup.exe

English version only: http://mirror.switch.ch/...mirror/opera/win/920/en/

If you explore the server you will also find FreeBSD, Linux and Mac versions, e.g. the Linux ones are here: http://mirror.switch.ch/...pera/linux/920/final/en/

Changelog here: http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/windows/920/

Promitheas

Promitheas reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 7, 2007

Guys, you're looking the leader! Opera is and (i hope) will be the faster web broswer in the world! To avoid get any virus/worm from a web site don't use Internet Explorer. Use something that is 1-2 years ahead of the rest web broswers. Use Opera! I use it for 6 years, never disappointed!

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 4, 2007

Vimes
"It shouldn't be a matter of whether the websites conform 100% to a certain STD is more important on how the browser adapts and displays them. If IE and FF can do this then Opera should be capable as well."
It's precisely because of the lenient attitude previous browsers took that we are in the mess that we are in with regard to HTML/CSS/JS. If you want a browser that works for all websites, its simple, use IE! Even FF doesn't work for all sites that IE renders. It is true what you say the the end user probably doesn't care. But then if non of the browser venders cared either, we may as well dump standards completely and just make all our websites into one big flash file.
With regard to some of your problems with sites, a lot of the time sites simply block other browsers and other times its just a case of bad coding e.g. Yahoo! You could post these sites to the forums 'till you're blue in the face but they won't change the browser around a badly written site. And rightly so. If someone writes bad C++ code for an app you wouldn't expect it to run correctly, so why do people insist on rendering sites "correctly" when they have been incorrectly written?
The only thing i wish they would do at Opera is change the crap default theme to something that doesn't make the new user dizzy or puke up. Other than that it is head and shoulders above the other two.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 4, 2007

For all of you complaining about websites that are not working, mostly of them are a result of s***ty coding and not Opera's fault.

Operas rendering has gotten a lot better over the years meaning it can better handle websites not written correctly, or just written for IE. Many web developes doesnt care as long as the site is working with Explorer, which is pretty sad.

That being said, this is another great built, more stable than most finished products... Keep up the good work Opera team!!

xippon

xippon reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 4, 2007

+ for SpedDial

bobad

bobad reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 4, 2007

Beautiful GUI, smooth and stable. Unfortunately, I run into far too many sites that it can't handle, and must launch an IE-based browser. That renders the program useless. I wish not only for better web page handling, but enhanced tab groups and form filling. I hope the developers keep it going. It's a real beauty, and it's a shame that it has such glaring defects and deficiencies.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 4, 2007

simply the best!! the new speed dial feature is fu**ing great!!!!

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 4, 2007

Opera > *

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 4, 2007

The Best and the faster and the safer :)

i bought it when it was at version 6

now is free for all :P

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 4, 2007

As my problems with using Opera, as my main browser, has not changed from the last build I might as well just copy and paste my previous review, as it still applies...

Still the inability to store 'form' data - like IE and FF and the compatibility problems with many websites (reported ages ago and still reporting them) prevents this otherwise competent browser from becoming the main one that I use.

It shouldn't be a matter of whether the websites conform 100% to a certain STD is more important on how the browser adapts and displays them. If IE and FF can do this then Opera should be capable as well.
What matters to the end user is how tolerant and adaptable your browser is to render them.

Opera is a GOOD browser but it is totally let down by its continuing inability to adapt to none standard websites.

If I use Opera then I can't do online banking. I can't shop at two of the online stores that I use on a regular basis (links have been provided in previous Opera beta reports). Other sites that I use also have some issues of rendering.

What do I do, apart from report these to Opera (which I have over the years). Note them in their forum (which I have, but now not as often). Report the sites to the site owner (which I have. And then...

Continue to use FF as my main browser.

I would love to use Opera (used it since version 3.0) but it has always had a problem with rendering certain websites.

I will continue to use Opera in the hope that they will be more adaptable in their insistence, I assume, of placing emphasis on support a certain std of conformity that in a practical world does not have as great a value as they believe.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 3, 2007

Nice build...

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 3, 2007

I've yet to come across a site Opera doesn't open. I'd love to see Vimes' bank site. My bank's site has a ton of java crap and plugins going on and it opens just fine. I even put the 'JavaScript' and 'Plugins' buttons on the address bar so I could easily turn them off when visiting certain ad-heavy sites (like FileForum, ZDnet, and many blogs).

However, I am surprised that more people do not take a minute and discover this incredible browser. For anyone who likes to customize how they browse, Opera will let you control every single part of the program. This ability makes it highly advanced for power users and keeps it simple for n00bs.

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 3, 2007

ah, the dilemma. do i download 15 mb of bloat to render 100 percent of the poorly written websites out there? or do i download 4 mb of a well conceived, well written, very fast browser, that doesn't always play nice with sites i probably shouldn't be visiting to begin with?

i truly hope opera sticks to their guns and don't sell out for the lure of market share. the web would be a far better place if the web conformed to opera, versus opera conforming to the web.

great browser.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 3, 2007

tafugate "ah, the dilemma. do i download 15 mb of bloat to render 100 percent of the poorly written websites out there? or do i download 4 mb of a well conceived, well written, very fast browser, that doesn't always play nice with sites i probably shouldn't be visiting to begin with?"

Ahhhhh, you running a 486 with a 50mb hard drive?

& one example of one site: try music.aol.com with Opera and another browser...click on the music & video tabs, try to listen to something(the category tabs on top, NOT the Top or Most Popular, as those are Flash-based and can be played with just about any browser.

Zeon "Wow, you just complained about a program being beta on BETAnews. Incredible."

Ahhhhh, not a complaint, just more ammo for it NOT meriting a 5...

Joey Deacon "Simply the best browser. It's the most standard complaint...Why choose anything else?"

Ahhhhh, how about in order to be able to access a lot of pages that Opera either won't display in the manner the site op intends or that worse- Opera can't render AT ALL.
Oh, wait-- it's actually the various websites themselves that are not standard compliant... yeah, that's right!

PS Will be very glad to adjust rating once Opera can access all content.

godzila

godzila reviewed v9.20 Build 8769 Beta on Apr 3, 2007

wery good browser

b0mmel

b0mmel reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Apr 2, 2007

i don't like it. i think the management made a lot of bad decisions. the result is this bloated internet suite full of web1.0 tools

Joey Deacon

Joey Deacon reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Apr 2, 2007

Simply the best browser. It's the most standard complaint, it's the fastest, and it's the most fully featured out of the box, and by far the most secure.

Why choose anything else?

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Apr 2, 2007

Vimes,
I have no idea why people like you complain about rendering issues when sites are not properly written. If you write rubbish code for an application you wouldn't expect it to run properly. So why this expectation for HTML/CSS and Javascript *CODE*? If you want everything to render like IE then use IE. If you want better STANDARDS compliance then use Opera.

zeon

zeon reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Apr 2, 2007

@horsecharles

Wow, you just complained about a program being beta on BETAnews. Incredible.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Apr 1, 2007

Best of the best!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Apr 1, 2007

Orgasmic...

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Mar 31, 2007

Vimes hits it on the button.

How can such an app merit a 5 rating?????????????????????

I give it a 4 for effort, for switching completely to free model, for having a couple features other browsers don't... but it may be too generous...esp. in light of it being beta, their obstinacy in correcting long-standing issues...so down to 3 we go.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Mar 31, 2007

Still the inability to store 'form' data - like IE and FF and the compatibility problems with many websites (reported ages ago and still reporting them) prevents this otherwise competent browser from becoming the main one that I use.

It shouldn't be a matter of whether the websites conform to it is more important on how the browser adapts and displays them. If IE and FF can do this then Opera should be capable as well.

EDIT - It doesn't MATTER how none compliant with any standard that a website is written (in an ideal all websites should be compliant but we are not in an ideal world are we. What matters is how tolerant and adaptable your browser is to render them.

Opera is a GOOD browser but it is totally let down by its continuing inability to adapt to none standard websites.

If I use Opera then I can't do online banking. I can't shop at two of the online stores that I use on a regular basis (links have been provided in previous Opera beta reports).

What do I do, apart from report these to Opera (which I have over the years). Note them in their forum (which I have, but now not as often). Report the sites to the site owner (which I have. And then...

Continue to use FF as my main browser.

I would love to use Opera (used it since version 3.0) but it has always had a problem with rendering certain websites.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Mar 31, 2007

Excellent build.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Mar 30, 2007

No problems with this build. Excellent, customizable browser.

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Mar 30, 2007

I am not a "fanboy" but someone who has used and followed Opera since the days you had to pay for it.
The means of customization remind me of the difference of how American cars were to work on compared to my first experience of working on a European automobile. Things just seem to be more engineered rather than cramming items in.
Being a retired engineer I recognize this and appreciate it.
If someone does not want to download each and every beta, daily, etc. then they should not do it. I, for one, am glad when developers allow us to use these. People using these programs are the acid test for developers....there is no better test of your product than people actually using them.
After all, this is a beta site.

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.20 Build 8767 Beta on Mar 30, 2007

Build 8767 is a big improvement over some of the recent ones. At least this one works.

b0mmel

b0mmel reviewed v9.20 Build 8762 Official Beta on Mar 30, 2007

I just wish they would improve the browsers compatibility to the real existing www, give it a completely revised user interface and remove all the features nobody uses.

Now it feels like the car Homer Simpson built.

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.20 Build 8762 Official Beta on Mar 29, 2007

always nice. But whats odd is when I go to places like Steves digi cam's or kevhead.com and post in form's opera dosn't show some options I see in IE-7 or FF I dont see the option to add a flash object or MOV object or wmv object in the steve's Digi cam fourm's same with Kevhead forms.
but othger then that great browser. I just would they would work on the email interigation.

Dennis87

Dennis87 reviewed v9.20 Build 8762 Official Beta on Mar 29, 2007

Very good browser=)

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.20 Build 8762 Official Beta on Mar 29, 2007

Luv it!!

raghu

raghu reviewed v9.20 Build 8762 Official Beta on Mar 29, 2007

great browser.right from the beging its a sensation.
the very first browser which gave rise to tabbed browsing .
this time its "speed dail".
this feature is really fantastic.
once you use this one i promise u that u dont go for another one.....

opera rocks

hariskar

hariskar reviewed v9.20 Build 8762 Official Beta on Mar 29, 2007

horsecharles: So what ? Firefox has daylies and hourlies in it's forum.
Anyway this is not a reason for a bad rating.
5 from me (ex Firefox user) for this great browser

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.20 Build 8762 Official Beta on Mar 28, 2007

I can d-mn well tell you that Firefox and IE take a distant second to Opera. And if you think everyone's a fanboy, look for these same names in the Opera Forums. Software this good should be heralded.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.20 Build 8762 Official Beta on Mar 28, 2007

And the fanboys continue their rampage: Dailies, Betas, Release Candidates..."keep getting better", "brown-nose blah, blah"...
all meriting perfect 5 ratings!!!

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.20 Build 8762 Official Beta on Mar 28, 2007

Great software, you will try once and you will stay with Opera

Alnag

Alnag reviewed v9.2 Beta Build 8762 on Mar 26, 2007

Still better and better. Although weekly, the last one is pretty stable...

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.2 Beta Build 8762 on Mar 26, 2007

Excellent build.

From Desktop Team:

"The Weekly Builds are snapshots, they are not as thoroughly tested as a Technology Preview or a Public Beta. You should only use these builds if you are not afraid of losing data (e-mail, bookmarks, anything) or crashing your computer."
- http://my.opera.com/desk...am/blog/show.dml/142990

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.2 Beta Build 8762 on Mar 26, 2007

You people need to get a life. Those are NOT betas, they are DAILIES! RTFM. TY.

Opera > *

God bless them all.

capandjudy

capandjudy reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 26, 2007

I like Opera and everything but I wish that they would take a year off to work on bugs e.g. broken pages and so forth. They always seem to put the cart before the horse in the sense that features seem to take precedence over things working correctly. I suppose in the world of software a developer has to keep innovating to stay afloat.

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 24, 2007

robmanic44, seems to me you don't get the idea behind releasing theese weeklies (no, it's not betas, as many have stated over and over again). The purpose is TESTING! The users are supposed to report back the problems, so that Opera can continue developing their browser and fix things. Get that?

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 23, 2007

I installed the last beta and it wouldn't render the operamail page properly. I like opera, but they need to slow the beta release process.

zridling

zridling reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 23, 2007

b0mmel, why not download JAVA directly and specify it in (CTRL+F12) Preferences > Advanced > Content > JavaScript options? Just tell it where to go and what options you want.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 23, 2007

Love it. Can't live without it!

Changelog
Fixed the crasher when right clicking certain places
Fixed title for redirected pages in speed dial
Improved plugin detection on Solaris

Known issue
This week only lasted one day, sorry about that

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

DaveGB

DaveGB reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 23, 2007

Excellent as usual, this weeks weekly is much more stable that last week. Seems they are close to a 9.20 release.

As for Javascript speed, check out javascript benchmarks, Opera wipes the floor with everything including IE7 and FF when it comes to javascript speed.

For anyone considering these, these are ALPHA quality, not even beta or release candidate, expect bugs...

b0mmel

b0mmel reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 23, 2007

I used Opera for several years until the beginning of 2005 when Web 2.0 really took off. Then I changed to FF because of Operas slow Javascript engine (later to IE7). The Javascript engine today feels just as slow as it always was. Why don't they change this? Online Webmail, Calendar, Office etc. are way the web develops. For that you need a blazing fast Javascript engine.

Hardly anyone still uses a locally installed mail client for personal mail. Those who do will use the excellent one that comes with Vista when they upgrade their OS. Opera has one integrated: superfluous. The same goes for the widgets. Vista comes with widget support, on XP people use the Yahoo Widget engine or Google Desktop. Those widgets still run if you close the browser. BTW, is there anyone who uses Operas IRC client?

Then there is the interface. When will they finally upgrade the skin and make the options more accessable?

All this things make Opera look a little old. They should weed the unnecessary things out and concentrate on the core, even if it costs them some of their oldschool users. Web 1.0 is over.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 23, 2007

While i would compliment Opera's efforts to date, there is NO WAY IN THE WORLD IT DESERVES A PERFECT "5" RATING:
for starters, there's beaucoup content & websites it cannot render...and to boot, for 'years' now!

All that being said, the same holds true for other IE competitors, though to a much lesser degree than Opera.

Like ALL browsers, it has its uses- as it does beat out the others in some areas...downloading for one.

Sadly, FOR WEB WORK / POWER USE THERE IS NO ONE BROWSER WORTHY OF BEING USED TO THE TOTAL EXCLUSIVITY OF ALL OTHERS.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 23, 2007

Always opera is 100 steps forward.

FirFox is good but for n00bs. You must have at least 10 extentions to reach opera's functionality.

(These weekly releases are only for testing. Please report bugs and crashes to make our browser even better)

Darken

Darken reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 23, 2007

+1 with Zankur.

Excellent build.

From Desktop Team:

"The Weekly Builds are snapshots, they are not as thoroughly tested as a Technology Preview or a Public Beta. You should only use these builds if you are not afraid of losing data (e-mail, bookmarks, anything) or crashing your computer."
- http://my.opera.com/desk...am/blog/show.dml/142990

Zankur

Zankur reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 23, 2007

I fail to understand why stupid people are redicuiling this perfect and most featrure-rich browser on earth....

all the browsers available today copy features from opera........

firefox,maxthon will take another 2yrs to in-corporate all features which are present in opera.....

muka3d

muka3d reviewed vBuild 8758 Beta on Mar 23, 2007

Perfect browser.

This is the browser that Mozilla has been trying to clone for quite sometime now with Firefox. Each release of Firefox comes with some "new features," all of which have been around in Opera for years.

This is the only browser that should exist, and it is, for very good reason, the engine used in Dreamweaver, mobile phones, Nintendo Wii & DS, and the list goes on.

If you don't use it already, there couldn't be a better time to switch over. This is browsing paradise.

ubuntuclient

ubuntuclient reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 22, 2007

The most secure web browser? No, it's simply the one that generates by far the least interest from hackers and security professionals.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 22, 2007

this weekly snapshot has many crashes
but its beta.

try it only - feedback @ devs

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the best browser

bggoth

bggoth reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 21, 2007

This weekly is unstable but it's headed in the right direction, as many previous bugs are being corrected!

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 19, 2007

Sucks, has always sucked, will always suck.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 19, 2007

This build wouldn't run on my machine for some reason. I kept getting a message that it had to close every time I tried to run it. I tried rebooting, reinstalling, repairing, redownloading, nothing. I had to reinstall the previous build.

Dreimanis

Dreimanis reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 19, 2007

i'm using firefox right now. if opera supported collapse elements with its content blocker as does adblock in firefox, opera would become my default browser.

DigiBrian

DigiBrian reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 18, 2007

The BRowser is great, the fact that it does not support Roboform sucks, but that is not Opera's fault, the people at Roboform needs to get their act together.

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 18, 2007

heads ups on alpha/betas is exactly what i expect from betanews. great job. spooky sometimes.

i installed 8746 yesterday (i got the heads up from betanews, btw), and it's been working great with my 15 or so favorites. most of the sites reporting problems with opera, i don't ever visit anyway.

i respect the fact opera doesn't dumb down its browser to conform to non standard practices, just to be like the other guys. opera is the best.

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 18, 2007

Just to clarify a few things. This build is NOT a beta! It is a weekly build. Weekly builds are experimental development snapshots. You should EXPECT to find problems.

You can find descriptions of the various kind of builds Opera puts out here: http://snapshot.opera.com/

This is the description for weekly builds:

weekly:
- cutting edge; alpha quality; often contains critical bugs
- distributed to a very limited audience via the Desktop Team blog
- typically available every Friday, though sometimes more or less often
- should never be installed over or substituted for a final release
- data backup is highly recommended before use

Given this description, I don't think betanews should post these builds!

MR

MR reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 17, 2007

This beta just isn’t ready and shouldn’t be available for review yet.

jcollake

jcollake reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 17, 2007

No, Opera isn't perfect, and neither is Firefox, and certainly not IE. However, for me, I find myself hooked to Opera's speed, wonderful rendering, page zoom (can't be done as well in firefox even with plugins), and native mouse gestures.

Its a great browser. The one annoying thing is the few sites that do have troubles with Opera. I think Opera should take a more proactive approach to wroking around issues on major sites, including automatically masking the browser ID (which is all that's necessary on many sites that just report they can't run in Opera). Sure, it'd be nice if more web developers cared about Opera in the way they do Internet Explorer and Firefox (and all Mozilla varients). Until that day, it'll be up to Opera to fix problems, even if it's not their fault.

ghammer

ghammer reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 17, 2007

Let's see. Can't use download accelerators like ReGet. Can't use RoboForm.
Doesn't display quite a few websites properly.

Yeah, sure, I'll try this again real soon...

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 17, 2007

There are problems with certain websites that work and display fine in FF or IE. Such as...
http://tinyurl.com/326yxc
but not in Opera

Open the above in IE and then try again in Opera. You can't browse sections of items in Opera. Quite a few sites that I visit are like that sadly. I have reported it to both Opera, many times, and the website itself.

Whether it is a non std compliance problem by the website or not doesn't bother me it is how well Opera can cope with them.

Also there is no 'forms data' like you can save previous typed in information in IE.

I am very tempted to lower the rating to 1 as I can't get rid of the extra search bars that it has placed on my personal bar, like HornyToad.

EDIT>>> Tools / Preferences / Search and then delete the ones that you don't want disabled Opera adding them to my personal bar each time it was started, regardless of removing them.

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 17, 2007

HornyToad, what are you talking about? Ever tried to right click on the Personal Bar and select remove this item? Anything can be removed.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 17, 2007

Best browser on earth!

HornyToad

HornyToad reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 17, 2007

I'm an Opera fan and a faithful among the faithful, but this time I'm only crediting it with a 3/5, simply because the Personal Bar now contains two search bars that CANNOT be removed, one for a supposed default search engine (editing/deleting entries in its list won't make the search bar disappear), and another devolved to shopping, which has IMO nothing to do on anyone's personal bar, but hey, that's just my opinion.

Opera developpers : let the end-user choose what will and what will not be displayed on his/her personal bar, freeware or not ! I understand Opera Software has landed deals with various Internet big companies, and wants to honor its part of the deal, but if this "feature" is still there in the final 9.20 version, I'll refuse to update, and if push comes to shove, I'll simply move to another browser.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 17, 2007

Weeklies are only for testing... But, excellent build.

Crashing solution: VoiceXML Enabled=0 //opera6.ini

dr_millennius

dr_millennius reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 17, 2007

I am also having the crashing problem. Been using Opera for about 6 months or so and it had been stable until this new beta. Quite unprofessional for them to release what appears to actually be alpha. NOT recommended. It totally corrupted my profile and I had to uninstall.

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 17, 2007

to Sammo ...you are ine smarrt human being i bet
to All amazing browser, first program I isntall on every computer in vicinity highly recommended

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 17, 2007

Total crap. Crashes on startup every time. I've been using Opera for years and never had this problem before. Well, I guess its back to Firefox.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 16, 2007

Good points, adrian47uk; however, I'd argue that Opera's complexity stems from its customizability. Like anything else, once you immerse yourself in it, things get clearer. Now that I've customized Opera to how I wish every browser would work, there's no way I'd go back to chasing Firefox extensions. And while I like IE7, you don't get many choices unless you use a good shell like Maxthon. Opera just builds it all in one neat, standards-compliant package.

adrian47uk

adrian47uk reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 16, 2007

I do like Opera, but I hate it's cookie system, Firefox is much better at asking if I want to accept the cookie. It gives me three options, allow, deny or session and on each of them, I can tick if I want it permant. Opera is much more complex than it need to be, which is a shame, because I am sure I would use Opera all the time. At the moment I have not reinstalled Opera on my computer.

Ray Dorset

Ray Dorset reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 16, 2007

Warning, this weeks build has a nasty crashing issue, if you have voice enabled.

Be warned, weeklies are only for the brave..

dr_millennius, Weeklies ARE alphas..

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.20 Build 8746 Beta on Mar 16, 2007

Awesome!

arvind

arvind reviewed v9.20 Build 8732 Beta on Mar 11, 2007

Currently using Opera and Firefox. I use Firefox only for the sites that don't open in Opera. Opera has got to be the most customizable and lean browser ever. Pages load in a flash.. has tons of options.. and is not bloated. Absolutely love the mouse gestures.. i know that's available in firefox as well thru extensions, but this thing just works!
Give it a try... you may just get addicted.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.20 Build 8732 Beta on Mar 11, 2007

10 THINGS THAT MAKE ME LOVE OPERA:
________________________________________________
(1) When you scroll one page at a time, it's actually scrolls ONE full page, instead of 3/4 like others;
(2) You can customize fonts in every single element of the web page;
(3) Fully customizable keyboard shortcuts!
(4) Number keys 1 & 2 allow you to quickly navigate backward and forward through your tabs (on top of other key combinations);
(5) It remembers its last bookmarked folder location — what a concept, duh!
(6) Keyboard shortcuts for increasing/decreasing the size of text;
(7) It has close-left and close-right buttons for tabs;
(8) Notes feature in the Panel section is extremely useful;
(9) The ability to save sessions;
(10) A true multi-platform browser, which for me means I get to seamlessly use it with Ubuntu.

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v9.20 Build 8732 Beta on Mar 9, 2007

best browser ever,and it really getting better and better!

gkajaia

gkajaia reviewed v9.20 Build 8732 Beta on Mar 8, 2007

Simply the best browser!
Using it for ages. It becomes better and better.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.20 Build 8732 Beta on Mar 2, 2007

Opera is the best, moreover, it is going to get better. If you want to see what you can expect from Opera 10 alpha follow this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUqC1URVytk Hakon Wium Lie shows how the browser will support Ogg Theora.

inventao

inventao reviewed v9.20 Build 8732 Beta on Mar 1, 2007

Opera the best browser, el mejor navegador.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.20 Build 8732 Beta on Mar 1, 2007

The start bar has been replaced by a "dialer" bar.

Anyway, without doubt, Opera is the most secure browser to date having a user group of several millions. Rendering problems are being fixed rapidly, but the real problem is that web developers don't create websites meeting W3C standards, in which case Opera would render it perfectly because it meets standards better than any other browser.

Best tabs functionality, in fact, this was the browser that invented the idea of tabs. I've been a dedicated user since version 7, and this product always delivers.

Don't use this beta because it's full of memory leaks out the ying yang.

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.20 Build 8732 Beta on Feb 28, 2007

NO start bar?????... wow, thats a blow....

adamlau

adamlau reviewed v9.20 Build 8732 Beta on Feb 28, 2007

Fast, lightweight and ultimately customizeable. Have been a user since 2002 and have rarely looked back (beyond the occasional use of tete Firefox Bon Echo builds when Opera fails to render a poorly authored site).

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.20 Build 8732 Beta on Feb 28, 2007

for every neglectant user complaining:
take into account that when a program says BETA, it's flawed, because it's STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT.

PD: there are HUGE changes for Opera 10. Page RENDERING is only one of the points, just be patient.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.20 Build 8732 Beta on Feb 28, 2007

Best browser ever. The new Speed Dial is simply a HUGE breakthrough!!!

TGB72, FireFox is nothing better. Consumes fairly the same amount of memory.

#1 Opera #2 FireFox , if you ask me.

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

Known issues:
The static Linux packages are unfortunately corrupted.
Overrides your search.ini file instead of merging them: Make a backup before installing.
Thumbnails should not reload on every startup.
"Reload every..." is missing from the context menu.
Middle-click doesn't open pages in the background.
Back button doesn't go back to Speed Dial.
Several skin and display problems.
Contains some hardcoded not translatable strings.
The "What is Speed Dial" link doesn't go anywhere.
Forgetting to put your partner's blog in SD1 can have dramatic consequences

Changelog:
Fixed several crashes when printing, sending mail, removing active web panel...
Lots of minor fixes.
Start bar is replaced by Speed Dial, Top-10 and Bookmark buttons can be found in the Appearance dialog and added to other toolbars.
Canvas: Stopped drawing lines from origin (0, 0) when using path functions in accordance with changes in WHATWG canvas spec. Note to Widget developers: This may cause problems with your Widgets if you use Canvas.

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v9.20 Build 8713 Beta on Feb 25, 2007

Opera still sucking resources like no other browser does it when it navigates javascript sites (try it on devianart), for instances it consumes until 80% of cpu and 40MB of memory. This is not a new bug but it's since v8, really a pity because is not a bad browser.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.20 Build 8713 Beta on Feb 22, 2007

I like Opera better than Firefox because it's able to control crazy popup/flash sites like ZDNet, CNET, FileForum, news sites, et al. within one keyboard shortcut. Every once in a while I'll get a site that doesn't render well, but that's because that site (hello, Adobe?) wants me to download more software to read it (no). Opera also lets me keep track of notes, sites I want to revisit (in sessions or histories), and to change the UI on the fly. Finally, and best of all, every single part of this browser is customizable, from fonts to keyboard shortcuts to tab behavior to looks.

Me likey likey!

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v9.20 Build 8713 Beta on Feb 10, 2007

This version did not work for me right ,
- some sites PHP extension ask to download page,,
- beta news it self it did not work fine with open page through middle mouse button.
- Still I have to enter proxy authentication for each page when opening group and that's very annoying.

I have installed 9.1 back but still suffering from last point.

Radu Coc

Radu Coc reviewed v9.20 Build 8713 Beta on Feb 7, 2007

Regarding to problem: "Rendering problems with some websites" isnt the foult of Opera. Is the fault of sitemaker. If Sitemaker dont know to write HTML pages... or is making the site "IE compliant", beacouse IE cant render corectly html pages... IE is the worst implementation of a browser I ever seen. In change, Opera is the moust advanced browser I EVER SEEN. Opera has pased the ACID2 test. Only Opera, Safary (OSX) and Konqueror (Linux) has passed this test. IE... maybe in the next 100 years! And IE7 is even wors than IE6.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.20 Build 8713 Beta on Feb 7, 2007

Rendering problems with some websites that I visit (reported eons ago and done again) and still no 'forms' type of storing previous typed information like IE has.
The two above make it difficult for me to adopt this browser as my default one.

Aker

Aker reviewed v9.20 Build 8713 Beta on Feb 6, 2007

Definately my favorite browser, but it doesn't come without problems.

The two major problems, as I see them:

**There are still many pages that render incorrectly, as compared to Firefox or IE.

**Built in ad blocking is subpar, and the rule lists available are ineffective against most modern page ads. The current implementation also lags the browser considerably when in use with a large filter.

As these two problems never seem to be addressed, I don't believe I'll ever be able to give Opera a perfect score. That said, it is still my browser of choice. Fix the two problems mentioned above and I'll come back and rate it a 5.

GeekK

GeekK reviewed v9.20 Build 8713 Beta on Feb 5, 2007

Ok,

I don't want to sound like an Opera fanboy here, though I am one.

Some critical self-evaluation.

1) Newbies: try it.

2) Firefoxes: no, Opera *doesn't have* plugins. Why? To keep control of the code that's used. Why? Because Opera wants to be and *is* secure (check Secunia).
Why don't we stop those silly wars, which are just pimpled adolescents yanking off (yeah you (and me)). If you want don't like the sounding of the phonological compound 'oh-puh-rah' do not download this. The title bar says 'Opera' so it will drive you nuts every minute you are on the net.
If you're fair-headed, just try. It's just another program, and it's fair to say it has a good record, security wise. Some people found it difficult to adapt to Opera, for the single reason they were accustomed to Firefox and that other little ditty. That's not a big problem. There's an skin/toolbar/shortcut setup which transvestites Opera into a Firefox look-alike: http://my.opera.com/Rijk...rafox-0-9-the-new-munin. If you're not into that thing, you'll adapt in 10 seconds.

Get into the daylight.

[~saying; 'get a beer']

bbobcat

bbobcat reviewed v9.20 Build 8713 Beta on Feb 5, 2007

Just try K-Meleon. Better than any other.
K-Meleon rulz!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.20 Build 8713 Beta on Feb 5, 2007

Awesome.

Ray Dorset

Ray Dorset reviewed v9.20 Build 8713 Beta on Feb 5, 2007

Best browser around, by a long margin. Anyone that thinks Firefox is better featured or faster is deluding themselves..

Opera Tip of the day:

Closed a tab by accident? Simply undelete the tab from the Closed bin, there it is, even retains form data.

Want to lock a tab to prevent it being closed, right click on thr tab, and lock it (alone with plenty of other useful tab tricks.

I don't see Firefox or IE implementing any of these...

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.20 Build 8713 Beta on Feb 5, 2007

Best browser around.

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v9.12 Build 8701 Beta on Jan 27, 2007

Everything works fine!
perfect for me

gnovak1

gnovak1 reviewed v9.12 Build 8701 Beta on Jan 24, 2007

I will describe Opera 9.12 in one word:PERFECTION!
It's fast, much faster than IE or Mozilla and has everything you need!Since I installed it I stopped using IE!Like I said:PERFECTION!

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.12 Build 8701 Beta on Jan 21, 2007

bobad, you're an idiot! you don't even know the program and you criticize it!
Opera, functionally behind Firefox and Maxthron?!! WHAT??!!!

As someone else said, this forum atracts some idiots.

mrgrieves

mrgrieves reviewed v9.12 Build 8701 Beta on Jan 21, 2007

Opera doesn't have tab groups but it does have sessions. You can save the state of all open tabs as a session and then open an entire session in one go or have a specific session load up when you start Opera.

Or, alternatively you can just create folders in your bookmarks list and open up its entire contents in one go.

You can also tell Opera to start up where you left off with all open tabs which I think is great.

I don't agree with you that Opera lacks functionality, quite the opposite.

bobad

bobad reviewed v9.12 Build 8701 Beta on Jan 20, 2007

Well, Opera certainly is the prettiest browser out there. Functionally, however, it's far behind Firefox and Maxthon. My main complaint is that it has no tab grouping or group startup. That's a deal killer. Once you get used to tab groups, you're spoiled for life. For example, Maxthon's tab groups save me 30 minutes every day making my morning rounds. 1 click and all my software pages open. 1 click, and my software pages close, and my weather pages open. Then sports, then forums, etc. I'm very disappointed that the Opera developer has consciously chosen not to utilize tab groups. I do like like Opera otherwise.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.12 Build 8701 Beta on Jan 19, 2007

Java works again and this is an excellent build. Well done, Opera Team!

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v9.12 Build 8701 Beta on Jan 19, 2007

Attention: This build is experimental.

It contains a feature reporting system that will report back usage of a number of features to Opera once per week.

Yes, you can turn the feature off:
opera:config#UserPrefs|EnableUsageReport

So, what does the report contain?

You can check yourself, a copy of the next report is stored in the Opera profile directory, under usagereport/report.xml. It reports things like what preferences you have enabled or not, whether you use Widgets or not, and how many bookmarks you have. Only numbers*, no domain names or other sensitive data.

*) Excluding Visa and MasterCard

Changelog:

* Included experimental feature reporting mechanism
* Java works again
* Some stability fixes

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.12 Build 8701 Beta on Jan 19, 2007

Excellent build!

More infos (changelog + Usage Report included in this build) >> http://www.neowin.net/fo...indpost&p=588242947

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.12 Build 8701 Beta on Jan 19, 2007

Ownage! And btw, java works just fine.

adamlau

adamlau reviewed v9.12 Build 8701 Beta on Jan 19, 2007

Absolutely the best...

Marcinneekk23

Marcinneekk23 reviewed v9.12 Build 8701 Beta on Jan 19, 2007

Still the best...

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.10 Build 8692 Beta on Jan 17, 2007

Go to my.opera.com/desktopteam to see the latest weeklies. THEY ARE FOR TESTING ONLY, THEY'RE BY NO MEANS A FINAL STABLE PRODUCT.

Java not working is a KNOWN PROBLEM for this build, so don't complain. Get v9.10 instead.

cheers.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.10 Build 8692 Beta on Jan 16, 2007

Too bad about the java problem. Re-installing java did nothing and neither did choosing java files under Preferences-Content-Javascript options.

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v9.10 Build 8692 Beta on Jan 16, 2007

Java did not work after update.

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v9.10 Build 8692 Beta on Jan 16, 2007

FYI Java is not working in this Beta.

[deXter]

[deXter] reviewed v9.10 Build 8692 Beta on Jan 15, 2007

Excellent! Finally, most bugs that were hounding me are fixed!

@Jordanr05: There's a really SUPERB feature in Opera that's not found in other browsers: It's called "Check Images". (under Preferences->History). Set it to Never, and try surfing your regular sites. Incredible, ain't it? This setting alone provides a great speed boost, as most images on regular websites don't change, and Opera doesn't even have to check if the image has been modified (it'll blindly load from cache).

I still wonder why Firefox doesn't have it yet. Infact, Firefox has this annoying bug that loads all images of a website even if they haven't been changed..

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.10 Build 8692 Beta on Jan 15, 2007

Yay, back to weeklies again. Well done!!

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v9.10 Build 8692 Beta on Jan 15, 2007

java is disabled by default (bad idea, but that's the way it is). you can enable by going to tools|quick preferences|enable java. i'm using jre 1.6 and it works fine.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Jan 14, 2007

New weekly build is out --> 8692
( http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ )

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 28, 2006

Opera is the fastest, most secure and most compliant (Acid2) graphical web browser for Windows. It doesn't get any better.

Jordanr05

Jordanr05 reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 26, 2006

You know, don't jump on me for saying this....BUT, I notice Opera loads the text first, then the images. There's nothing wrong with that in practice, but on media rich websites I notice the progress bar slowly chugging through all the pics. This makes the broser appear like it's performing poorly. Pages such as cnn.com are quite noticable (i'm on a cable internet connection for reference). Ironically, on Linux, this broswer is an absolute speed demon.

I know speed tests on windows prove Opera still comes out as the fastest, but in real-world web usage I always find myself using other browsers because of this. Any insight as to why the browser performs like this would be great.

That nag aside this is the final build and appears rock solid. I'm not so sure about the widgets either, but SimAquariam is so damn addicting that i'm going to say I like it.

4 Stars

norz

norz reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 21, 2006

Changelog is here: http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/windows/

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 19, 2006

this is the final 9.10 version... no problmes here

poisonu

poisonu reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 18, 2006

I was a commited Firefox user,
But as it has become slower bloatware (particularly from vers 1.5 to 2.0), I now use Opera particularly on older hardware.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 18, 2006

Because I don't have the appetite for extra features and configurability that some others crave, this browser is perfect for my needs. The tab functionality, speed, security,improved page rendering and look and feel of Opera is all I ask for in a browser, so I have quite happily settled on this for my default browser, using IE only when necessary.

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 18, 2006

Quote by lcfu
"The result of this ignorance is that in reality it's not possible to surf the web only with Opera, you are regularly in need for a "start Firefox" or "start IE" button."

See Optool @ http://www.kreacom.dk/optool/

I very rarely have issues w/ Opera not being compatible. I don't believe Opera team is trying to force web developers to switch to W3C, but having standards is what brought us to where we are today and they are trying to stress that we need to utilize that.

I also don't care for widgets very much, but I am on the fence regarding plug-ins/API's. I don't think they want to implement that because of security reasons, which I agree, but on the other hand, some of Firefox's extensions are pretty nice.

HoIIywood__

HoIIywood__ reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 18, 2006

The only missing feature from Opera (Phishing) has been implemented, and implemented well. This really is the ultimate browser.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 18, 2006

Opera Final 9.1. Does exactly what it says it does: secure, fast, easy to use and customize. Page rendering is now so good, I dont have to use IE anymore.

Icfu

Icfu reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 18, 2006

No serious competitor to Opera 8.5x (which I am using as my main browser) unfortunately, too many things got broken and/or are still missing:
- cookie handling (allow one domain => allow all subdomains)
- no backups for essential files (bookmarks, notes, etc...)
- crashes when HD is full resulting in trashed config files
- memory and CPU consumption => startup/shutdown/operating delays
- still no plugin/extension API, instead too many developers seem to be occupied with nonsense gimmicks like widgets which are outperformed by arbitrary alternative products

Opera still seems to believe that billions of websites will suddenly switch to W3C compatible code and it would be an option to ignore website repair features. The result of this ignorance is that in reality it's not possible to surf the web only with Opera, you are regularly in need for a "start Firefox" or "start IE" button.

Opera is stuck at a 0.5%-1% market share for years, even turning to freeware had no impact on that. I hope that Opera 10 will go back to the roots and concentrate on its core and extensibility, otherwise it will stay a niche browser forever.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 18, 2006

Excellent. I love it. How would I live without it?

DipThong, you are retarded. I mean, even IF Opera was indeed the least used browser, does it mean it is unsafe? Where's the logic in that?
I am fine with that fact that you or anyone else might not like Opera. But when you rate an application you don't like, at least tell WHY are you doing at, and not simply say it's crap. Again, you are retarded to the bone, my man.

mackley

mackley reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 on Dec 18, 2006

Oh yeah ! :-)

Jimmy_Tsatsos

Jimmy_Tsatsos reviewed v9.10 Build 8679 Beta on Dec 14, 2006

Safest browser ever!!!

HurricaneGame

HurricaneGame reviewed v9.10 Build 8678 Beta on Dec 13, 2006

Why would you go there, dcw888? XD

Anyhow - good browser.

dcw888

dcw888 reviewed v9.10 Build 8678 Beta on Dec 13, 2006

Does the following site show up properly with your Opera 9.10? Since Opera 9.10, the following site doesn't show properly..... at least for me.

http://www.nforce.nl/

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.10 Build 8678 Beta on Dec 13, 2006

Changelog+ all other info you might want:
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

Deedstyger

Deedstyger reviewed v9.10 Build 8678 Beta on Dec 13, 2006

i wanna see a changelog. >:[

tired of upgrading. at least show me the fixes to make me relax. :(

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.10 Build 8678 Beta on Dec 13, 2006

Best browser ever, if you axx me.

chentso

chentso reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 12, 2006

I've grown used to Firefox. Opera seems to have too many features sitting unused for me. It really feels like using IE with way too many toolbars installed. But that's probably just me used to the simple Firefox interface. Besides, it kicks IE's butt any day. :)

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 8, 2006

Keeps getting better with each version and it still is the fastest, most secure and most compliant (Acids2) than any other browser for Windows.

Carlos V

Carlos V reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 7, 2006

I've been using Opera for years. I've tried IE, Netscape, Firefox and others... but Opera is much more useful to me. It's not a perfect program but is nearly perfect. Firefox is really good and potent but when you come to choose, what you finally use is always a matter of personal taste :)

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 7, 2006

Still no rtf copy/paste to other apps like Dreamweaver. Some of you Opera fans say it can be done. Show me. Until Opera can do this simple function like every other browser does I can not use it. Also, Firefox still loads pages faster, even if Opera is faster on the js.

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 6, 2006

Opera has always been far advanced and it takes a little gray matter upstairs to use it. Some people will never get it and that's ok...some will never even try, just run down something they are incapable of understanding. Sad for them.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 6, 2006

Changelog:
Fixes to the Fraud Protection feature.
Fixes to Opera freezing with Flash 9 on Linux.
Fixed smooth scrolling on UNIX! w00t!!1!
Flash now works on FreeBSD! OMG!!!11!1!

As listed on http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

What can I say? I love retarded people. Always have. But especially here. I love how you FireFox fans come here, talk sh1t about Opera and rate it one. I mean, how ridiculous can this be?!

And I bet you people think you are being objective by saying Opera is crap and raing it one. Still, I love you all lol

Opera > *

Free. Fast. Secure. Customizable. Constantly updated.

malirene

malirene reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 6, 2006

"firefox - memory hog, slow as molasses startup times
ie7- worst toolbar imaginable
ie6- lacks features
opera- too many to list"

Before you post again you better see your doctor. Also I would like to know how many days you have been using Opera. Install, play for 10-15 minutes and uninstall… “too many to list” is nice review :o)

Maybe you think this way:

- too many ways to customize toolbar, interface etc.
- too many things to better security
- too many free memory left when you using Opera
- too many ours you need to figure all Opera features
- too many people like and enjoy this browser
- too many features for your brain
- too many of too many

This is all in all the best browser ever. More you use Opera more you like it. I have been playing with almost all browsers on PC and MAC platforms and no1 is even close to Opera. The list of features is really big but if you don’t need it all of them just don’t use it. Simplicity, speed, security and small recourse usage is main Opera features. If you still looking for good browser, go with Opera for one week and then make decision.

Dreimanis

Dreimanis reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 6, 2006

although i'm a firefox user myself. and while i think that all of the big 3 are great browsers, i still think that opera is better. a bit, but better.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 5, 2006

Not an Opera fanboy either. It's just I feel it is the best browser available. It is fast, it is secure, it looks good and it is quite feature-rich.

constust

constust reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 5, 2006

yeah sven, the opera fanboys are rabid
they should all go get rabies shots

Poor babies are going to cry because you rated some COMPUTER CODE a 1.
Talk about wackos!

waaaaaaa
cry cry cry cry

Here's a tissue! Wipe away those tears, grow up and see about loving a person instead of a browser. If you need help breaking that bond, seek out a therapist.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 5, 2006

No problems....Still the best browser around (of course that is one persons opinion).

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 5, 2006

@sven.
The problem is well known. It is located between your chair and your screen. ;-)))

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 5, 2006

Funny how everyone is quick to pile on someone who doesn't support there point of view. I dont like this program, I'm just showing a different point of view.

mackley

mackley reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 5, 2006

in build 6780 on Windows: Fixes to the Fraud Protection feature.

in build for Linux:
- Fixes to Opera freezing with Flash 9 on Linux
- Fixed smooth scrolling on UNIX
- Flash now works on FreeBSD

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 5, 2006

@yokozuna
+1000
@Sven123456789
***If your into tab nation you probably find this the best for surfing the net, but for the rest of the world, this is just another louzy browsing experience.***
I aplogize, but have you checked with doctor recently??? Where the hell did you find a non-tabbed browser?? Even ie is tabbed now. Get a life! Get past win 3.11 an ie 5.0...
***Plus the email client stinks also.***
Well, it works absolutely perfectly for me for some years in a row, and yeah, definetly huge, bulky, uncomfortable outlook smth is waaay better.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.10 Build 8670 Beta on Dec 5, 2006

@Sven123456789

***If your into tab nation you probably find this the best for surfing the net, but for the rest of the world, this is just another louzy browsing experience.

Answer: Right! Therefore the rest of browsers follow the Opera example of tabbed interface.

***Plus the email client stinks also.

Answer: Yeah! FF & IE have better e-mail clients. No client is the best client.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v9.10 Build 8666 Beta on Dec 4, 2006

Still a terrible browser. If your into tab nation you probably find this the best for surfing the net, but for the rest of the world, this is just another louzy browsing experience. Plus the email client stinks also.

bgronas

bgronas reviewed v9.10 Build 8666 Beta on Dec 4, 2006

What are the actual changes?

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.10 Build 8666 Beta on Dec 3, 2006

Dude why are you posting that BS link... first of all its build 8660 second of all if you have problems downloading from here go to operas preview site http://my.opera.com/desktopteam to download.

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v9.10 Build 8666 Beta on Dec 2, 2006

this is so good,best browser for me,

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.10 Build 8666 Beta on Dec 2, 2006

Browser for People !!!
not
People for Browser ( IE )

Amazing software, thx for your work !

Dreimanis

Dreimanis reviewed v9.10 Build 8666 Beta on Dec 1, 2006

they are all great. internet explorer 7, opera 9, firefox 2.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.10 Build 8666 Beta on Dec 1, 2006

Another excellent build!

@ dzjepp: I'm not the author of these tests. But, read this:

«Windows browsers

The tests are done on Windows XP SP2. Internet Eplorer 6 is a standard install, Internet Explorer 5 is the zip package install that can be downloaded from QuirksMode.org. (IE 5.5 crashed every time I tried to run it.) The Windows performance settings are set to the automatic setting (default). Opera 8 tests were done using Opera 8 beta 1. Mozilla 1.8 tests were done using Mozilla 1.8 alpha 6. Firefox 1.5 tests were done using Firefox 1.5 beta 2. Opera 9 tests were done using Opera 9 technical preview 1. I also tested the Moox Firefox install, "optimised" for my particular processer. I tested the new Netscape, which is basically Firefox with some added rubbish that slows it down. K-Meleon is the only other Gecko browser I tested, as is said to be the fastest one (although in fact it is slower than Mozilla and Firefox at all tasks except starting).

I also tested a few browsers that are not current browsers (Netscape 4, Escape 4, Clue, Internet Explorer 5.0, Mozilla 1.0, Opera 6.03). This is done purely for the sake of interest (and it is interesting to note that IE 5.0 is significantly faster than IE 6.0).

Hardware; 800 MHz Intel Pentium 3, 256 MB RAM.»

Xssshell

Xssshell reviewed v9.10 Build 8666 Beta on Dec 1, 2006

I'm a programmer and I need many browsers, but Opera is my favorite one.

This is not due to any technical specs, speed or any other gimmick, it is Opera's philosophy.

Opera is very w3c conform and strict, and it's nice to disabled people.

constust

constust reviewed v9.10 Build 8666 Beta on Dec 1, 2006

Toolbars sucks.

I await you not writing your own review but instead attacking mine...

BNut83

BNut83 reviewed v9.10 Build 8666 Beta on Dec 1, 2006

Opinions are like a** cracks..

For me it is:

1. Firefox
2. IE7
3. Opera

Firefox cold starting in 12 seconds? Yeah, ok. Gimme a break, Opera still can't render some pages correctly. Perhaps by version 11 we'll have a winner.

dzjepp

dzjepp reviewed v9.10 Build 8666 Beta on Dec 1, 2006

12 seconds for firefox to start!!!?!?! Um, I don't think so. It cold starts in 3-4 seconds for me. What are you trying to run it on, your ti-86 calculator?

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.10 Build 8660 RC1 on Nov 28, 2006

Excellent build!

Firefox 1.5:
- 17.26 secs (Cold start)
- 2.74 secs (Warm start)
- 1.52 secs (Rendering CSS)
- 1.58 secs (Rendering table)
- 21 secs (Script speed)
- 2.85 secs (Multiple images)
- 38 secs (History)

Opera 9.0:
- 2.48 secs (Cold start)
- 2.15 secs (Warm start)
- 0.92 secs (Rendering CSS)
- 1.16 secs (Rendering table)
- 13 secs (Script speed)
- 1.50 secs (Multiple images)
- 8 secs (History)

Firefox 2.0:
- 11.64 secs (Cold start)
- 3.05 secs (Warm start)
- 1.71 secs (Rendering CSS)
- 1.62 secs (Rendering table)
- 22 secs (Script speed)
- 2.03 secs (Multiple images)
- 48 secs (History)

Opera 9.01:
- 2.47 secs (Cold start)
- 2.24 secs (Warm start)
- 0.84 secs (Rendering CSS)
- 1.08 secs (Rendering table)
- 13 secs (Script speed)
- 1.44 secs (Multiple images)
- 8 secs (History)

// http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v9.10 Build 8660 RC1 on Nov 28, 2006

I use Opera and Fire Fox side by side and Fire Fox is always faster!

benyahuda

benyahuda reviewed v9.10 Build 8660 RC1 on Nov 28, 2006

Blaxima, A few corrections are in order.

After repeated tests, over years, using most IE varients, Firefox, Opera and quite a few others here are some true results.

Opera IS the fastest, even faster than IE 7.

The internet is NOT based on Internet Explorer.

IE is NOT W3C compliant. In fact if you use the internet standards for your guidelines almost no pages are rendered by Internet Explorer correctly. While still not 100% W3C compliant Opera is the closest to being so.

Among the current browser releases Internet Explorer 7 is the best alternative to Opera with Firefox 2.0 an extreemly close third.

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v9.10 Build 8660 RC1 on Nov 28, 2006

This is the first time I am enjoying surfing with version 9 since they fixed the NLM authentication with proxy server. it used to ask me for every single tab , now only once. Bye Opera 8 ,,

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.10 Build 8660 RC1 on Nov 27, 2006

Opera is the only browser that you can not copy/paste formatted web content into other programs like Word, Dreamweaver or Thunderbird. FireFox with Cairo is still faster than this latest Opera.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.10 Build 8660 RC1 on Nov 27, 2006

EDIT. @Sammo ^^^^^^
YES YOU CAN and it is faster but seeing as someone mentions FF and Thunderbird in their review its easy to see how they would rate it so low

Allow me to be the voice of reason here seeing as I'm niether a FF fanboy or an Opera one. I still use Maxthon mostly.

-Opera is fast but not the fastest considering the internet is built using IE so IE and its clones ARE faster. This is faster than FF.

-It is the safest browser you can get. Secuna Reports show this and show that developers care becuase unlike FF, security issues dont linger 2 years later.

- Like FF it is rare that you will run into a page that it can't render but it still does happen. It's not 100% yet

-The lightest I find on resources with Mathon second and FF a pig.

This is definately the alternative(non IE) browser to use

4.5*

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.10 Build 8660 RC1 on Nov 27, 2006

A simply fantastic browser. The developers have improved the product in leaps and bounds over a relatively short time. It may not render all pages perfectly, but it is a very rare issue for me to encounter anymore. Splendid work! And to be honest, I don't give Firefox even a second thought anymore.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.10 Build 8660 RC1 on Nov 27, 2006

1. The fastest browser ( Multiple test )

2. Safety no.1 ( Secunia Reports )

3. Yes you can love it!

DipThong

DipThong reviewed v9.10 Build 8660 RC1 on Nov 27, 2006

Too bad that reading has nothing to do with actual exploitation. That said, I've not had a single exploit hit me using IE, Firefox, OR OPERA. 4/5 because AJAX/JAVA heavy sites cause this browser to grind to a halt. That, and the WMP capability always seems to crash the browser (yes, fresh install) after closing a window containing said media.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.10 Build 8660 RC1 on Nov 27, 2006

When you read the continuing security holes in Firefox and IE, Opera lets you sidestep all that noise and just surf, among dozens of other great things this browser does. As for DipThong, time to upgrade that Wal-Mart special, dude.

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 27, 2006

pretty stable for me,
it is geting better and better.
worth for a try!

BNut83

BNut83 reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 22, 2006

Still can't render all pages correctly. I don't care how it performs on the Acid test. Its score on that doesn't necessarily represent my browser experience.

I also can't log into my College's Internet section due to some "javascript error" that they classify as a security violation.

jimmyyue

jimmyyue reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 22, 2006

This highly customizable browser allows me to speed through surfing and is a powerful competetor to IE and Firefox. Try it, it works for me.

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 19, 2006

Zankur said: "It only makes for a good laugh reading other people's stupid attempts to criticize this browser."

that makes for the phrase of the month.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 19, 2006

Wow, thats an amazing picture, tannenwheel... Ive been using this build for a few days now, and it seems very stable and 9.10 final cannot be very far ahead. Great browser!

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 19, 2006

Near-perfect.

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 19, 2006

yay, screenshots for constust, everyone

http://img427.imageshack...27/2402/operascrtr6.png

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 19, 2006

Well,opera really puts to shame other browsers and their developers with their great new innovative technology and the speed and ease at which they develop it flawlessly.

the new fraud protection is a new stupendous technology which mozilla will definetly try to copy in their version:3 maybe by 2008-9.

It only makes for a good laugh reading other people's stupid attempts to criticize this browser.

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 18, 2006

Still no ability to copy/paste formated web content to apps like Dreamweaver. Opera is the only browser that does not do this. Until they add this obvious feature I will stick to FireFox.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 18, 2006

Excellent build! 5/5

@ PhrostByte : «Opera is my favorite browser but the last beta had this bug where any webpage I went to would sometimes hang for about a minute... I'm about to try the new version.»

-> Strange, no hang for me with latest 9.10 builds. :)

@ constust
http://img476.imageshack...6/5640/operamenu5bg.png

- Simple and fast solution: http://www.howtocreate.c...tuff/otherBrowsers.html

PhrostByte

PhrostByte reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 18, 2006

Opera is my favorite browser but the last beta had this bug where any webpage I went to would sometimes hang for about a minute... I'm about to try the new version.

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 18, 2006

More like what can you not customize on Opera?

http://my.opera.com/community/customize/

constust

constust reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 18, 2006

Don't listen to the fanboys. This browser uses too much memory, crashes, renders pages bad, is slow, is ugly, is bloated, etc. In other words, this is the worst software ever made.

Get any other browser but this one because it plain sucks.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 18, 2006

Incredible developers team! Best browser ever!

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 17, 2006

Here's the great thing: if you don't like Opera, there's a million different ways to customize it so that you will love Opera. Pretty incredible browser; great user community.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 17, 2006

I still find myself using Maxthon more but this is by far the better option for browsing if you dont want anything to do with IE.
Its fast
Safer than FF despite what fanboys say
Smaller impact on your sytem than the others too

The only thing I prefer about FF over this is how they implement the arranging of the toolbars.
Maxhton loads pages faster too but other then those little things this is easily reccomendable

muka3d

muka3d reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 17, 2006

Perfect browser. Fast, secure, and includes all the features you could ever need while staying tight and small.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.10 Build 8653 RC1 on Nov 17, 2006

Opera is perfect and it is going to get better :-)

Please remember about the filling of the Opera survey and make the browser even better than you expect: http://www.opera.com/survey/upgrade/

Eldar

Eldar reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 16, 2006

Is Alexa spyware?

You may keep it, I don't want those here.
Opera is one of the safest browsers around, so it doesn't need this junk. :-/

eblade

eblade reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 14, 2006

eProfitsMaster: google for: google page rank opera

and you will find that. I don't know about the Alexa thing.

I have been using Opera as my primary browser since v6, and I highly doubt I will find any other product that I like as much as Opera.

kyleabaker

kyleabaker reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 13, 2006

Very good and stable build. Best browser available. Also great for web developers since the browser follows web standards. Fast, secure, advanced!

eProfitsMaster.com

eProfitsMaster.com reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 12, 2006

Most requested features from me :
Google Page Rank & Alexa Traffics Monitor. Like FF & IE have...

munga42

munga42 reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 12, 2006

Its Opera, the best, the fastest, and the coolest browser ever made.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 11, 2006

Sorry to say Mozilla, but you guys are lagging behind. I don't really care about all the extra features. It's the speed, security and vastly improved page rendering (though still a few breaks here and there) that impress me. Great browser!

drfung

drfung reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 11, 2006

Essentially it is the best browser out there for anyone who wants to take the time to learn it. This is the biggest problem for a lot of people. The built-in features (error & java consoles, ctrl-j feature, editable search.ini, mouse gestures etc etc) are very advanced, considering the size of the package. It's fast, and most important today, it's secure. Check out scunia.com if you doubt that. Fully customizable interface. Any browser is better than IE (used v7 yet? -much laughter). I see a lot of end users who browse with Opera for the first time get intimidated by it - "it's not like the other one". Lame excuse. Check it out, it's worth the time.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 11, 2006

The best. To say the least.

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 10, 2006

Amazing! Just plain amazing!..

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 10, 2006

Agree with Deedstyger - I'm surprised they even posted the build with the gzipped pages problem...was equally pissed. Fixed with this build, so back, in my opinion, to the best browser on the market for me.

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 10, 2006

rofl, operas toolbars are slimmer than firefox' plus they can be even slimmer with a different skin, pluss they can be removed and replaced with hotkeys - if u are cool enough.

5 points for your review

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this build is the first usable (imho) since a few builds (since 8585). it's cool that overall most opera builds are useable.

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 10, 2006

Constust, change/remove the toolbars. It's not that difficult, is it?

constust

constust reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 10, 2006

toolbars take up too much space

edit: to those above
think before u write something
u can NOT configure the toolbars to show what I have showing in FF or IE and have it take up the same amount of space

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6814/oprz8.gif

Deedstyger

Deedstyger reviewed v9.10 Build 8649 RC1 on Nov 10, 2006

Fixed bug where Gzipped pages was not decoded when loaded from cache

fine to see that damned bug fixed.. it really made me angry. i was expecting a new build before this date though.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 6, 2006

Hey, no problem with Gmail here, must be on your end. otherwise it seems to be a pretty stable release, yet there are a few bugs to sort out. post your comments on my.opera.com/deskteopteam if you find something that needs improvement.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 5, 2006

nice release!! the only problem i've found: THIS THING IS SOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN FF 2.0 :P

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 4, 2006

@Betachecker

No wonder, because this version is a beta. According to the creators of the browser:

We are getting close to 9.10 RC1...

Known issues:

- Finnish language files went missing in the package building. (Our finnish localization manager is not too happy..)
- Gzipped pages are not decoded when loaded from cache, so some pages will sometimes look broken when visited a second time

@zridling

You are very right. There are some software products which have very good community support. Opera is one of them. And vice versa, there are decent programs with very unpleasant users (therefore I resigned from using Becky! Internet Mail, which is IMO one of the best e-mail clients. If you ask for anything at Yahoo support groups almost everybody will shout at you and call you an idiot. I speak Japanese, so I can change most hidden settings with ease and use almost every plugin. I found funny how the Yahoo wise men want to solve some problems with Becky). The community support is important, because I do not have any problems with Opera now but I may need some help in the future. The community guarantees that the problem will be solved.

Betachecker

Betachecker reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 4, 2006

This version seems to be buggy, sometimes when going back to a page I get strange page full unreadable caracters

pseudoheld

pseudoheld reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 4, 2006

HMm i cant see my gmail inbox. it works with ff at the same time so it cant be googles fault. seems to be an opera bug.
no good release imho going back 1 version.

[deXter]

[deXter] reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 4, 2006

4 because there are still a few issues to be fixed.

Firefox 2.0 was a huge disappointment, thankfully, Opera doesn't suffer from the "serious" issues that Firefox is currently facing, like the memory leak issue and the yet-to-be-patched security hole.

Although Opera scores over Fx as a faster and more stable browser, I still find myself using Firefox for the various extensions that have become a part of my net usage and I can't do without.

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 3, 2006

as kyleabaker said, this isn't RC1.
ASCII problems are running riot in this build, which is a shame, but will no doubt be erradicated in the next release.

The security check function is pretty nifty in that it doesn't take any longer to load a page.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 3, 2006

Simply the best. Fast, secure, flexible, reliable. FireFox is a solid browser, but Opera IS better.

P.S. Gmail works fine.

rseiler

rseiler reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 3, 2006

There's a serious known issue not mentioned here (manifested by blocks of ASCII):

"Gzipped pages are not decoded when loaded from cache, so some pages will sometimes look broken when visited a second time."

Needless to say, install betas "on the side" and not on top of your released version.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 3, 2006

Something that makes Opera better than just the software is its Opera user community, which are some of the smartest people on the planet. Always helpful in the forums, Opera provides them with sites and blogs to do anything they want, and experts like Tamil use it to compose incredibly easy-to-follow tutorials for sifting through the complexities of Opera. Love it!

jbaton

jbaton reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 3, 2006

My Only & Lonely Browser :]

kyleabaker

kyleabaker reviewed v9.10 Build 8643 RC1 on Nov 3, 2006

Great browser-great build!, but about the title of this release...

"Opera for Windows 9.10 Build 8643 RC1 beta" This is not RC1... the title from the desktop team's blog says "Almost 9.10 RC1".

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Nov 2, 2006

Both firefox and opera are GREAT browsers..you fan boys/girls are annoying.both browsers are good at what they do and i support them fully for their efforts.

Opera does everything i need it to do but i am still waiting for an easier way to install stylish or greasemonkey scripts with just a click of a button.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Oct 26, 2006

Maybe I should follow up with Opera rox your sox! ...I think not. Clearly Opera has released their finest effort yet. Finally, it is rendering pages at an acceptable level. The speed is, as always, fantastic and the tab functionality is the best in the business. Well done Opera developers.

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Oct 23, 2006

firefox suck S***

ranasrule

ranasrule reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Oct 23, 2006

Opera SUCKS !!!

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Oct 22, 2006

ebay works just fine!
and you yes you can turn off fraud protection in
the options!

LeXTeRiTY_X

LeXTeRiTY_X reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Oct 21, 2006

Great release, I couldn't use any other browser - especially fixes many sites.

Ebay still doesn't work. Not the buying part of Ebay, but when selling an item, many controls are disabled or hidden. Annoying though, since seller support claims Opera 7.x and upwards compliance.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Oct 21, 2006

Love Opera, dedicated user, but this release doesn't fix what they claim. I wish the option to disable the fraud protection completely turned the option off, so it wouldn't show that stupid question mark.

They claimed to fix compatibility with Googlemaps/local, still broken here. Did a fresh install, cleared the whole directory; still some issues.

However, this is the first public beta for v9.10, so I'll be pretty lenient with my review.

guti

guti reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Oct 21, 2006

I have been using Opera since version 3.5.

Glad to see it is getting better and better.

5 stars.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Oct 20, 2006

You probably downloaded the classic installer. As always, I am enjoying the weeklies build.

benyahuda

benyahuda reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Oct 20, 2006

I'm not sure why, but the weekly build I got directly from Opera is slightly larger (4782 KB) and a slightly different version (o910w_8629m.exe vs o910w_8629.exe).

No matter, it is a fairly reliable build (has the high CPU use, but only with some Google apps (Earth)).And it also includes native Anti-Phishing. Without the obnoxious intrusiveness and overbearing inability for the user to adjust security settings of the new IE 7.

By the way, Secunia has already found a security exploit in the IE 7 RTM.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Oct 20, 2006

Just learned you can combine functions into one keyboard shortcut (Nod to Tamil) — Opera is incredible, I will say.

Oh and to LeXTeRiTY_X above, yes, it renders eBay just fine on my system. Care to name the sites Opera "breaks" or did you bother to install it at all?

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v9.10 Build 8629 Beta on Oct 20, 2006

well just check out http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ for release notes.

it says: Opera will in some cases not start on upgrading. (use clean install)

fortunately upgrading worked for me anyway (single user "opera/profile" setup)

first impressions of this build are good. fixes download annoyances.

edit: oh well i just downgraded one build since i run into major cpu trouble related to JS and backgroundpageloading.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.02 on Oct 12, 2006

Great stuff, as usual!
Opera #1 browser.
FireFox/Avant #2 > with sites that Opera can't handle (not much of those these days;)

LokiLoki

LokiLoki reviewed v9.02 on Oct 3, 2006

Great software. The only browser I use and if websites don't cooperate with Opera, it's time to ditch the websites.

PaceyPimps

PaceyPimps reviewed v9.02 on Oct 2, 2006

Has the most features and is the safest fastest but i wish it had one google for each tab like IE7 would make things faster. Make sure it comes in 9.03

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v9.02 on Oct 1, 2006

this is the best browser for me,
fully optimize for window and even faster than firefox
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

plings

plings reviewed v9.02 on Sep 25, 2006

It's too bad that some sites block Opera, but that's life... Discrimination will never disappear. But still, Opera gets it done with masking the useragent string and all that.

adamlau

adamlau reviewed v9.02 on Sep 23, 2006

An avid Opera user since the days of 2.x, this latest release carries with it pedigrees of useability, acessibility and great user forum support. Unmatched in terms of rendering speed by even the likes of SSE2/SSE3 tete Bon Echo and mmoy Deer Park builds. Improving support for pages not well-formed earns this release a 4 out of 5.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.02 on Sep 22, 2006

Sammo, say what?! Rich text editing is right on the features page and also right here in the Help file. Hit F1 dude! :-)

Lug

Lug reviewed v9.02 on Sep 22, 2006

Language files for Opera 9.02 Final
Ukrainian:
http://www.ukrlocal.info...nloads/ukrainian902.rar (58 Kb)
Russian:
http://www.ukrlocal.info/downloads/russian902.rar (58 Kb)

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.02 on Sep 22, 2006

Still some wbsites will not work or display correctly when comapred with FF or Maxthon. Each site has been reported, many times, and hopefully they might improve compataibility.

Until then it is difficult for me to use this for every day use as I find that I am switching too often to axthon just to get the sites that I often use to display correctly.

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.02 on Sep 22, 2006

Excellent browser with one important exception: Opera still will not allow you to copy/paste rich content like every other browser out there does.

zridling - you CAN NOT copy rich web page content and paste it as rich text into other applications such as Dreamweaver, as you can in FF or IE. It appears that the Opera rich text editing is limited to the email client.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.02 on Sep 22, 2006

Always exciting when Opera releases a new version...

fss69

fss69 reviewed v9.02 on Sep 21, 2006

phiber0ptik = FF is an excellent browser, but it sounds like you've been brainwashed by their hype machine. :p

phiber0ptik

phiber0ptik reviewed v9.02 on Sep 21, 2006

tbh i like opera too, but its just because all the flames going on :)

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.02 on Sep 21, 2006

We've seen significant improvements with the last 2 builds. Far better than FF, not even a question. If you have a doubt, look at Secunia reviews... Speed ? A joke. Look there :
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html. And finally, FF main issue imho is the lack of coordination betwwen FF and extensions when an Upgrade is released, preventing many of them ( major) from working with the new FF release... Again a joke. In case you want an alternative to Opera, I recommend K-Meleon 1.02, but obviously it's not feature-rich.

The Seeker 11

The Seeker 11 reviewed v9.02 on Sep 21, 2006

@ballyhairs

If you enable the Personal Toolbar, you can drag your bookmark folders onto that ;)

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v9.02 on Sep 21, 2006

9.02 equals Build 8585 (aka RC2)

(and has a bookmarks toolbar (called "personal bar") plus most customizable toolbars overall)

rafaelcage

rafaelcage reviewed v9.02 on Sep 21, 2006

Opera 9.02 is ready!!

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 20, 2006

If they add bookmarks toolbar then I might give it a try, till then I feel happy using Firefox, the best.

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 20, 2006

renders a page faster then any other browser.
smaller footprint then firefox.
I love the copy to note option, great for programers or copying text.
One thing I wish they would do for people that aren't to computer savy is create a lite version.
I see alot of people that switch just get to confused with all the option's,
but it's the best out their today it's free what more could you want?

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 20, 2006

OPERA > *

Works as a charm.

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 20, 2006

Couscous just lol
have you ever used opera tha last 6 months?

PS: if you dont like bugs and crash. STOP USEING BETAS

Couscous

Couscous reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 20, 2006

You got mad at a guy for rating this software a 3 out of 5 so I guess you're gonna love me..

Opera is a horrible piece of software. The user interface is atrocious. The browser crashes a LOT. It can't even properly render websites even after taking an eternity to load them.

I can't believe that people actually used to pay for this thing.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 19, 2006

Opera is by far my favorite browser, but two things they could do to make the transition easier for anyone looking to convert: (1) make fonts easier and simpler, and (2) change that wacky IE7-like tab behavior. It should not be hard just to ask that all — all — tabs open in the background without pressing extra keys or hitting the middle mouse button. If for no other reason you'll want Opera — customizable keyboard shortcuts!

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 19, 2006

@Mandeep too: for the sake of objetivity, listen to me: what the F*CK did you want to do by comparing browser with a cold start?! WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH A BROWSERS QUALITY, WITH THE BROWSING SPEED, SECURITY, RENDERING AND STANDARDS SUPPORT?!!
It was long since i read such a stupid thing!
I'm no fanboy, i respect both browsers but this comment just... i couldn't stand it.

birkis

birkis reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 19, 2006

@Mandeep: I have noticed that Opera uses longer to start the first time (guess it's because it creates some directories and such), so be sure that Opera has been up and running at least once before you do the startup test.

FriscoKid

FriscoKid reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 19, 2006

I have used Opera for many years, having paid for the first 3 releases--I would still pay for it.
Opera is fast and resource friendly. You can open tabs within one copy of the program running--I have had 20 tabs open at once. You can use as much ram as you choose for cache, lessening the need to read cache from HD. One of my favorite features is the Wand, which is a built-in password feature. I have never needed an external password program because Opera Wand remembers. It has provision for multiple personalities--e.g. I have 4 different Yahoo accounts, and Wand allows me to select which account I want to login, then provides the correct password.
I recommend Opera for all browsing--the only time I use IE is to download Windows patches and updates.

Mandeep

Mandeep reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 19, 2006

As a longtime Firefox user (user not fanboy) I wanted to start looking for better alternatives to the web browser. I wanted to try Opera out because as a productive user I always want whatever performs the best. I've seen side by side comparisons of Opera vs Firefox and the speed is said to be faster in Opera so I gave it a try. Upon installing Opera I ran a few tests of my own. I rebooted Windows and ran Opera. I then rebooted again and ran Firefox. I wanted to test the load times as usually when I boot my laptop, the first thing I do is load Firefox. Upon completing this test multiples time I found Firefox actually started faster. Then I ran a test to see which program loaded faster after previously opening them. Both web browsers opened at the same time so I decided to uninstall Opera as it did not have the speed advantage I was looking for. Keeping in mind this is an RC2, I'll be looking forward to the next release in hoping it will be faster.

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 19, 2006

Everything looks OK so far. Sometimes opera gets stuck loading a page, which can be annoying, but that's my only 'major' problem at the moment.

@alanpalmer and anonymouscowturd,

1. go to Help > check for updates (this will download an updated browser.js patch to your HDD, see http://my.opera.com/hallvors/blog/show.dml/471328 for details)
2. Clear your cache
3. go to mail.yahoo.com

Do note that some things do not work yet and that this patch is still in beta! But at least the page will load now ;)

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 19, 2006

Still no advance on the Yahoo! Mail beta. I guess it's just blocked and no amount of fiddling will help. I've tried masking and changing the user agent no joy.

bggoth: That link didn't help. I already have an account and all it did was just point me to the logiin page anyhow.

Everything else seems to be ok.

phiber0ptik: If you going to say it sucks at least give a reason why. The people trying Opera here already now how it behaves and how good/bad it is. You're not going to sway anyone by just saying it sucks...

BoNeLeSS

BoNeLeSS reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 19, 2006

Thanks for you argumented opinion phiber0ptik.

GTFO

phiber0ptik

phiber0ptik reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 19, 2006

sucky browser, go for firefox or IE7 instead.

My opinion.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.02 Build 8585 RC2 on Sep 19, 2006

Are we back to the nightly builds?

Still doesn't get supported by Yahoo Mail beta.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.02 Build 8584 RC1 on Sep 19, 2006

If for no other reason to use Opera: customizable keyboard shortcuts throughout the program and interface!

ailef

ailef reviewed v9.02 Build 8584 RC1 on Sep 18, 2006

the best no?
dont install java :)

bggoth

bggoth reviewed v9.02 Build 8584 RC1 on Sep 18, 2006

Here you go: http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/ -Press "Try It Now"

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.02 Build 8584 RC1 on Sep 18, 2006

anonymouscowturd:

I couldn't see Yahoo Mail beta, either. I tried changing site prefs to "Identify as" and "Mask as" both IE & Mozilla, with no luck. I still got the message "Sorry, Yahoo! Mail Beta does not support your browser."

I'm not worried as I only use it via the Web from work where I have to use IE anyway; at home I use Outlook.

Mark Gillespie

Mark Gillespie reviewed v9.02 Build 8584 RC1 on Sep 18, 2006

brusco, You do know that if you right click on a webpage, select Block Content, then click the content you want to block.

It really does not get easier...

If you click details, you can edit the image urls, and add wildcards etc...

Oh, and you don't have to use the bloated MSI installer, the classic installer is 3.5Mb (half the size) and deploys the same files, here http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o902w_8584.exe

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v9.02 Build 8584 RC1 on Sep 18, 2006

The best out there by a distance.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.02 Build 8584 RC1 on Sep 18, 2006

Everything seems to work as advertised for this version except for Yahoo! Mail Beta. It still doesn't work. So i'm not quite sure what they are going on about when they say "Yahoo mail beta should now work better". It's never worked before and it still doesn't. If anyone else can get yahoo mail beta to work please do tell!

derelict

derelict reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 17, 2006

three words:
paste and go.

in the context menu, of the adress bard and the search bar, in addition to the normal cut, copy, and paste functions, it adds the function "paste and go," or the equivalent of hitting enter after you paste something. so simple, you'd think we'd have realized it by now.

cloud23

cloud23 reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 17, 2006

nice browser though, compared to firefox, it is behind in the simplicity of ff, also a feature i'd love to see is a automatic spell checker on opera.

brusco

brusco reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 14, 2006

This has some very nice features ad touchs not found in other browsers. I especially like the fact that widget installation and skin installation do not require s restart to get working. Nice job!

Firefox is my main reason but its memory requirements are getting rediculously high. Opera pretty much has everything on my checklist.

Only bad point is the clumsy way that content blocking is implemented. This makes it too awkward and invloved (having to go through menus, a dialog then manually tying in addresses). They should copy the way that the Adblock Plus Firefox extension does it (context based), then it would be perfect.

rickya100

rickya100 reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 11, 2006

Hey all you asses with your it's getting better/worse one line comments, hows about some real reviews and thoughts about the actual application.

Maybe an actual writup of your experience when you used it (assuming you actually downloaded and installed it).

As for my thoughts on it, I've given it a 4 because even though it has very little market share it manages to reproduce most websites very well. Of course some sites will not render too good but even then that's not all Opera's fault.

And Opera can't do a damn thing (just like FF) on sites that implement ActiveX.

I agree that Opera could have a better default layout for beginner's and I think lately the company has got sidetracked from what makes Opera a brilliant browser (speed and truly USEFUL/innovative features) and become overly focused on headline grabbing features (think .torrent support built directly into the browser with no way to turn it off).

They should really consider dumping their widgets feature (so useless) and implementing a FF style extension system that a few other reviewers have suggested as well. With Opera's loyal and passionate userbase the extensions would quickly build up to rivil that of FF. And if their worried about losing some security or increasing the file size/memory consumption of Opera why not release a lite version with no extension support or fancy features etc.

Give the user the choice.

Overall but I have been using Opera for years upon years and even though I sometimes envy some new cool FF extension or IE only site I never stray or have been unfaithful to the big red O (o yea the logo could do with being changed as well).

Take half an hour to try it out, you can only gain.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 10, 2006

getting worse and worse!!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 10, 2006

I have used opera since version 6, I think I know what I am talking about just because I dont write an essay on it. This is for stating your opinion about the product and if you think its getting better I dont see the problem in writing so. That bein said, I doubt how much YOU actually have used Opera, since it takes about 5 seconds to disable the .torrent feature.
what is bothering me atm is that for some reason www.continental.com is not working with Opera at all.... I wrote them (continental) and asked what the heck, it was working fine before, but they have not gotten back to me yet... oh well. I think opera is a great browser, nothing fancy but with lots of useful features, and also the fact that it has so little marked share makes me feel better about the security also because who wants to make adware for a 1% marked share browser...?

mesiex

mesiex reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 10, 2006

Taking into account that there are almost no web pages "optimized" for Opera, it would be good to implement a better "chamaleonic" pattern to assume as own pages created for any other. For first users the initial page should be more simple (only one row of buttons), and include as buttons history, links and downloads. There should be a better solution for downloads, to avoid stopping them by simply closing the program. In spite of all this I give it a 5 because none of the existing alternatives is perfect.

t_guy

t_guy reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 9, 2006

Opera is a generally decent browser, I remember when it was pretty much the only viable alternative to IE.

+'s:
it's fast
great interface
great useability
multiplatform

-'s:
some pages mangle
a few minor bugs
doesn't support custom plugins/extensions like FF

indoguys

indoguys reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 9, 2006

In my opinion one of the best browsers around on the market, screen rendering is very fast even on a slow dial up connection which I can't say from any other brand. Still I can't give a Opera a 5 as many web pages are not able to come out as how it should be or I get the message 'Not Optimized for Opera' Cpanel is a good example where some features not working. MSN Groups WYSIWYG doesn't work and many many more sites just not working well with Opera. Wished the Widgets could be set as an independent part of Opera I hate to have several windows open at once and with widgets Opera requires to stay open. Just a little thing. Great to have a build in BitTorrent. Memory cache is very fast.

All by all a very professional browser with a professional look and feeling.

Donzy

Donzy reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 9, 2006

I have been a loyal Opera user for about 5 years now - love it to bits !!

But since version 9, they have the "Annoyance Of The Century", and they have not fixed it in the last three updates

"Right Click" to save an image, reloads the image from the server - does not save the fully loaded image on your screen or from cache

So, if you opened 10 images of 1 meg each, saving them forces the whole reloading cycle - crazy!

You can bypass this by holding down CTRL key and clicking image - but I don't want to use use two hands for this action

Other than that, awesome browser

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 9, 2006

Opera rocks!!! People who b**ch about its features usually don't know how to use the program.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 9, 2006

With the inability for the browser to support 'forms' as IE calls it, where previously typed information can be saved and it will automatically be there next time you visit a site. Also certain sites such as...
www.currys.co.uk - problems with displaying products when selected. (reported ages ago and still reported as a problem). And Yahoo beta mail not working it is hard for me to give it a higher mark.
Using FF I don't have any of the above problems nor are they there when using Maxthon, which I like.
I DO like Opera but I do struggle with some features that are lacking (requested in their forums) and some websites simply don't work as they should.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 9, 2006

I've loved it for years. The best browser in my opinion.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 8, 2006

Wow! This new build work great.

All my Websites works fine with this new weekly build. Good job!

net_junkie

net_junkie reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 8, 2006

I had been a FireFox user mainly to avoid all the spyware and exploits with I.E.. What I didn't like about FireFox was it's slow load time, and RAM usage. Otherwise I thought it was great.

I tried Opera because I read it was fast loading, fast surfing, and wasn't targeted by spyware writers as I.E.. All of this proved to be true, and I am now a convert.

I hate the default setup of the toolbars, so I customized it using the MyVista toolbar setup and a different color/button scheme. I think because of all the differant setups possible, it confuses the novice user, which is Opera's downside. We all know that it's also one of Opera's strength. But because it doesn't setup like I.E., it feels foreign to beginners. If this is you, stick with it. Go to the "Community" pages and see what you can do.

Opera is a safe, stable, and fast browser that you'll be very happy to have as your default browser.

ravemanson

ravemanson reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 8, 2006

Aahhh =)

rafaelcage

rafaelcage reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 8, 2006

The best web browser on the earth!!

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 8, 2006

Opera > *

Lebowski

Lebowski reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 8, 2006

First version that I'm actually keeping. No longer the akward spacing on my sites.

Joey Deacon

Joey Deacon reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 8, 2006

How many of your "test websites" are standard compliant?

Opera works fine here, it's secure, fast and feature laden.

obox

obox reviewed v9.02 Build 8573 on Sep 8, 2006

This is much better version than previous.
More speed, less bugs!
Great work!

josejosefo

josejosefo reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 25, 2006

Still Yahoo Beta and some other Ajax and Java websites don't render well or simply cannot run properly or don't load at all.

Nice try but will keep on using Firefox meanwhile...

zeeZee

zeeZee reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 14, 2006

opera is awesome.

firefox with tab mix plus spins up cpu usage big time with like 30 windows open, lol.

portable opera is awesome too.

http://www.kejut.com/operaportable

wlados

wlados reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 5, 2006

This high quality product Made in Norway, is really the best and most modern internet suite today. With the latest stable release ver. 9.01 you become browser, feed reader, mail client /very good one/, IRC chat in 4.6 MB!!!!!
I have absolutely no complaints with functionality. The only thing in particular is the Opera´s rendering engine Presto. Opera is rendering pages with the latest webstandards really fast. It´s the second browser in history who´s succesfully past Acid2 Test from W3C.
But there are some pages on the net which renders not perfect due to the Opera´s compatibility with W3C standards. But Firefox has on some IE-only pages problems too.
Its the best internet suite for everyone. Thumbs up!!

crosscut

crosscut reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 4, 2006

Hewz, I would appreciate it if you didnt attempt to act like you know what I've done on my system. I've installed opera in numerous computers to include 3 virtual machines and they all have the same result with the cookies on forums. I have changed nothing in regards to how cookies are handled.

Also, the claim about crashes was not what I meant when I said that it was due to sites blocking opera. The crashes were due to performing tasks like hitting REFRESH, or going BACK, after leaving opera idle for a bit. The site blocking issue seems to be an EXCUSE that many opera fans use when a site doesnt work. Half the sites I've tested, to include many banking sites, do not send opera different content. I've verified this with numerous people.

So again, why dont you try REVIEWING the product, instead of acting like you know what everyone here is talking about. Just because a bug hasnt hit YOU, doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

Anyways, Opera is a great browser, however, mainstream features like 3rd party support (interpret that however you wish, extensions addons, whatever), auto-complete, right click bookmark management in the bookmark menu (so I dont have to open a NEW TAB to manage my bookmarks), etc are just a few examples of how deviant opera is trying to be. Security is all well and good (the excuse given for not implimenting autocomplete), but when you dont give the user the choice, it becomes annoying as the devs are essentially telling you how to use your browser.

I still use opera as my primary browser, but I am not going to interpret that as an automatic rating of 5 like most users. Opera is fast, it is lightweight, and it does its job well, however, problems like frequent crashes, the cookie management issue, the features that are implimented and left to stagnate, leave me with no choice but to rate this a 3.

Hewz

Hewz reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 4, 2006

Doesn't Yahoo Beta specifically block Opera?

I don't know what eclipsingdivinity means by "funky interface", as Opera looks just like any other browser to me.

And I don't know what crosscut's problem with forums is, as it doesn't happen to me. He has probably changed some setting somewhere. And no one ever said that crashes are due to site blocking Opera. Broken sites (as in not working) are usually due to blocking Opera or omitting the necessary parts of code to get it working.

And no one claimed that ALL sites are trying to block Opera. Just a lot of them.

Anyway, this fixes lots of problems, so thumbs up.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 3, 2006

It would be nice if Yahoo beta would work BUT my online bank does work and overall compatibility seems better, with some of the forums that I use.

Well done to the Opera team and a great step forward.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 3, 2006

Excellent build, all seems to works fine for me.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 2, 2006

Relax guys. See that "See an Error?" link in the top right side of the screen? That's for reporting errors on these pages. Every time I've reported an error, BetaNews jumped to correct it quickly. However, they don't read every single comment, so you must formally bring it to their attention. Some of these updates are automated and sometimes need small changes like price corrections, dead links, etc.

rseiler

rseiler reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 2, 2006

8552 is the final (and the same build as the last beta); Fileforum merely made a typo.

http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/windows/901
http://www.opera.com/download

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 2, 2006

Are you sure that this version is "9.01 build 8550"? I am asking because I downloaded the browser from the official site in the morning and my Opera 9.01 International Version is identified as "9.01 build 8552".

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 2, 2006

Download link works fine for me, but the build number is 8552, NOT 8550 as it says in the headline. Wake up BetaNews!!

chris34

chris34 reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 2, 2006

still b8552

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 2, 2006

Download link is bad, get it from the official website.

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 on Aug 2, 2006

Are you sure this 9.01 (Final) release isn't build 8552?
It seems to be here...

zeeZee

zeeZee reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 Beta on Jul 29, 2006

considering the fact i am being harassed by area 51 secret police day in and day out via a satellite bio electro magnetic brain duplicator, for being married on 911. opera is awesome except for a few websites that cannot render. it also is the fastest. oh and ie 6 is faster than firefox, lol. no fanboy of any of them here. 845 849 9311

Gar811

Gar811 reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 Beta on Jul 29, 2006

I need a new phone, but it works

guti

guti reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 Beta on Jul 29, 2006

The useful new features in Opera 9, with lots of stability fixes. Great.

For me weekly releases of 9.01, seems more stable than the official 9.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 Beta on Jul 29, 2006

Two words: Excellent build!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 Beta on Jul 28, 2006

Lovin the weeklies...

Mark Gillespie

Mark Gillespie reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 Beta on Jul 28, 2006

Opera 9.01, does everything I need, does it well, no need to mess around with extensions or add-ins.

Awesome.

Fred-Erik

Fred-Erik reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 Beta on Jul 28, 2006

Sorry that I don't review the product, but I just want to answer to coover:

That feature is already implented. Simply open anything you want launched at startup (pages, widgets etc) and click File -> Sessions -> Save this session. Check the box in front of "Show this tabs each time I start Opera" and you're done.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 Beta on Jul 28, 2006

Simply the best.

coover

coover reviewed v9.01 Build 8552 Beta on Jul 28, 2006

Tis not true, Fred. When you do that, you get something from cache. When I open betanews.com as a home page and news.google.com (for example) as home pages, I want updated pages, not the old page that I had an hour or two ago.

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v9.01 Build 8543 Beta on Jul 27, 2006

Been a Opera user since version 3, have used every other major browser as alternate but Opera rules for me.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.01 Build 8543 Beta on Jul 26, 2006

Another excellent build.

For me, all works fine with all my Websites (bank, forum,...).

Gmail --> Work fine
Hotmail/Live mail --> Work fine
Google, neowin, deviantART, WinCustomize (new design) and many more!

Don't forget to check if the Website is not "optimized" for Internet Explorer. (use spoofing/masking) -- More info: http://operawatch.com/ne...d-how-to-bypass-it.html

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v9.01 Build 8543 Beta on Jul 26, 2006

In a technology sense, Opera would receive a 5 out of 5 for it's speed and security. But in a usability sense, it lacks in its funky interface and website compatibility.

Here's to Opera for being a strong competitor in the browser space, and hopefully will keep Mozilla and Microsoft on their toes with their own future browser iterations.

crosscut

crosscut reviewed v9.01 Build 8543 Beta on Jul 26, 2006

And again, diam0nd's very nice review leaves the user wondering how they ever lived without the browser. Good job diam0nd, you show some real intelligence with your review that merely states "ownage". (please notice how he never gives any real input, along with half of these reviews, and usually resorts to insulting fanboys (which he obviously is of opera) of other browsers).

Anyways, once this browser fixes the issue where you constantly get logged out of forums (even if selecting the REMEMBER ME OPTION), it will get bumped to a 4. It will get a 5 when the crashes on heavy java sites and ajax sites (That are confirmed to NOT BLOCK OPERA, so please, dont use that excuse as it doesnt fly. Not all sites are trying to block opera, despite what its fanatics would have you believe) and the crashes in general are fixed. Heck, I still get (along with several users on the opera forums) crashes when reloading a page or hitting back.

Opera is a great browser, and these shortcomings aside you will be pleased for a general browser. It works, it works well (although I still die for the day that roboform support is added) but it does have a few issues which prevent me from rating it a 5. Good job opera.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.01 Build 8543 Beta on Jul 26, 2006

Ownage.

zeeZee

zeeZee reviewed v9.01 Build 8542 Beta on Jul 23, 2006

super fast. fastest of them all. bmwusa.com never works, even with 8.54 opera, older java clean install, the drop down menus. even firefox cannot display comedycentral.com in-page media player. internet explorer works great. get a wrapper if you want, e.g ,maxthon, avant, netcaptor. all opera needs to fix is the drop down menu problems. then i am opera all the way. 9 years of surfing. i go back and forth with browsers.

benZin

benZin reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jul 22, 2006

Excellent, the portable/USB version is very good too ! I have always Firefox, but Opera 'poutre' ! :)

cannie

cannie reviewed v9.01 Build 8542 Beta on Jul 22, 2006

In my opinion it is simply the best.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.01 Build 8542 Beta on Jul 22, 2006

I simply LOVE how firefox fans come here, sh1t on Opera, mark is low and say they're gonna get back using firefox. Guys, please, cut me some slack and go GET A LIFE.

Opera - fastest browser on earth. I happen to agree.

clawso1

clawso1 reviewed v9.01 Build 8542 Beta on Jul 21, 2006

Opera 9.0 is terrible! I'll be glad when their development team fixes everything thats WRONG with it. Man, I had to go back to using Firefox!

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.01 Build 8542 Beta on Jul 21, 2006

Some very long lasting problems have been fixed, i.e when i tried to see pictures at Gamespot kinda slideshow, it got stuck after a couple of pics, or when triyng to download a video from IGN.com that didn't show the "right click here to save" dialog.

Great, my faith is renewed!!!

9i08

9i08 reviewed v9.01 Build 8542 Beta on Jul 21, 2006

these beta beta beta's just keeping geting better!

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.01 Build 8542 Beta on Jul 21, 2006

Excellent, A new build for testing!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.01 Build 8542 Beta on Jul 21, 2006

Newest build: 8543.

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam

josejosefo

josejosefo reviewed v9.01 Build 8533 Beta on Jul 18, 2006

@Plings: I think DrJorgeB is just giving his personal rate. If he cannot see the pages -he usually opens- properly displayed then the rate should be low don't you think?

I'm giving Opera a 3 because I still have problems with many sites but I cannot deny that Opera is the fastest browser (sometimes too fast to render pages as they should be...)

Hewz

Hewz reviewed v9.01 Build 8533 Beta on Jul 17, 2006

Most features from the Google Toolbar are possible to do in Opera, siryak! Try a search, or you could ask in the Opera forums.

plings

plings reviewed v9.01 Build 8533 Beta on Jul 17, 2006

Why don't you report them to Opera, DrJorgeB, rather than giving a rating of 1 just because some site most likely blocks Opera from working, which is usually the case if a site breaks in Opera?

DrJorgeB

DrJorgeB reviewed v9.01 Build 8533 Beta on Jul 16, 2006

Still problems with heavy java script pages and some pages just don't render well!!

siryak

siryak reviewed v9.01 Build 8533 Beta on Jul 15, 2006

Great product. I am still using FF though because it doesn't support Google toolbar. But if it did then I would switch in a heartbeat. But most people wouldn't care about Google T. so I would highly recommend. Maye someday they will support it.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.01 Build 8533 Beta on Jul 14, 2006

This build renders the fasted browsing speed I've seen yet. Other than a few minor issues, this browser is becoming unbeatable. Opera has just leap-frogged Firefox and Avant as my favourite browser.

zorz

zorz reviewed v9.01 Build 8533 Beta on Jul 14, 2006

Great build, better than final 9!

@nms04: I had same problem with PHP forums, you nead to clean install opera 9

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.01 Build 8533 Beta on Jul 14, 2006

once again, great build! i don't know why, but my opera crashes when i try to post messages on phpBB forums :(

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.01 Build 8533 Beta on Jul 14, 2006

Once again, another great weekly build!

crosscut

crosscut reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jul 14, 2006

How about you disclose this site instead of trolling and just making claims without any sort of backup.

BTW, dont assume people are firefox or IE fans, just so you know, I cant stand either. So please, dont assume crap with which you have no knowledge of. I just really dont like people degrading another product without any concept of proof.

BTW, you still havent posted the site ;-)

Richiez

Richiez reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jul 14, 2006

Ha, it works with a site that only IE worked on previously :) Now Firefox is the only broken browser on that site.

Edit: How about Firefox fans start remembering that this is an Opera review, and not everything is about Firefox? I've reported the bug (and several others) at bugzilla.mozilla.org. What have YOU done to improve Firefox lately, crosscut?

Richiez

Richiez reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 14, 2006

So, on to beta builds again! These actually seem to be faster than 9.0, so thumbs up.

plings

plings reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jul 14, 2006

Yeah... Still the fastest and most secure I guess :)

"torrent, widget should be optional"

They already are! :)

plings

plings reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 14, 2006

Seems to be even faster than 9.0 :o

WoBiDi

WoBiDi reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 14, 2006

yanike

> OK, opera doesn't support google pages, yahoo!
> mail, MTV stuff, AOL stuff and lots of other
> sites.

Actually, at least some of those actively block Opera. So Opera supports them just fine - they just don't allow Opera access.

> Also, I thought 9 was out of beta? Why did they
> suddenly throw it back into beta.

They didn't. Do you really think development stops when a version is released? Of course not. It's called 9.01 in case you didn't notice, and it's not a beta, but a weekly - a "development snapshot". If major changes are introduced, the version number will change to 9.1 or 9.5 or whatever instead.

> Opera sucks! I can't believe I'm saying this
> about this browser, but it does. Opera is for
> the real basic user.

Why? Who is "the real basic user"? A user who downloads a weekly (pre-alpha), and thinks it's a beta, or that Opera suddenly and unexpectedly returned 9 to beta?

Sigh.

Eldar

Eldar reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jul 10, 2006

@McAleck: If you copy over your profile to the directory where it's supposed to be, then all your settings will be restored. It happened a couple of times to me during the beta. Select About to know where your profile is stored. ;-)

While Opera does have some rendering problems with some sites, I don't mind that a bit. It still is a very secure browser and very customisable. I do use Fx too, but Opera is my default. I like to work with it.
Both are good browsers, so use whatever YOU like.

Thumbs up for the Opera development team. :-)

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 10, 2006

yankie the basic user seems to think this is Opera 9.00.

This is in fact another weekly release (note, it's not Beta, it's just BetaNews that doesn't know any better, as per usual...) of the next [minor] release of Opera, Opera 9.01.

Sheesh, them basic users...

Bluehair

Bluehair reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 9, 2006

They still have to fix that lasting CPU load issue: with no pages opened, it's not normal that Opera eats up 85% or so of CPU time.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 9, 2006

this release is already very stable (unlike the previous 9.01 beta releases) ... i can't understand why everyone is talking about the rendering problems!? i can view up to 99,9% of the websites i visit the right way (without problems!) even the gmail inbox is now displayed the right way :D

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 9, 2006

Opera > *

yay!

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 8, 2006

Once again, excellent build!

Mark Gillespie

Mark Gillespie reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 8, 2006

LOL DrJorgeB

Which bit of BETA do you not understand? You are using a beta program, on Beta websites like Yahoo Mail and Live. You wonder why it does not work...

sQin

sQin reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 8, 2006

it works well only with default settings. Some changes in settings cause bad rendering (whole opera v9 problem). I use firefox without problems

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 8, 2006

I have very annoying problem with V9.0,, I have to write my user id and password for every tab it was open last time I use, which is not the case with Version 8 I was doing it once, I guess 'NTLM should now work through HTTP proxies' is under question,, ??

I will stick to V8.5 until they fix this issue ,,

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 8, 2006

Still the usual problems...

Internet Banking
Sorry, you are unable to access Internet Banking. This may be due to browser incompatibility.
Please contact our Helpdesk on xxxx xxxxx.

Yahoo beta mail doesn't work.
Yahoo weather doesn't show the same 'drop down' effect like it does in Maxthon, IE or FF.
The download window doest seem to be able to be configured to be a small detached download pane like the other browsers I noted.

DrJorgeB

DrJorgeB reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 7, 2006

Version 9 is probably the worst ever! Some websites fail to load properly and others simply don't load!
The problems with sites as Yahoo! Mail Beta and Mail Live persist.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 7, 2006

Only because Opera does not have a right-click option for managing bookmarks without first going into Bookmark management will I not yet give it a 5, especially for something as simple as changing a bookmark name. Firefox has this feature. Other than that, I am becoming thoroughly impressed with Opera. Up until recently, it had annoying rendering issues. Though it is still not perfect in this area, it has improved immensely. Many complain about lack of extensions, but for me they are not that important. It does all I really need it do and does it extremely well.

nordlicht

nordlicht reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 7, 2006

I'm downrating 'cause Opera seems to have some Problems with......I don't know what. When I'm surving a while it doesn't load pages anymore as if the connection is down. Funny thing: FF and IE are still working fine so I guess there's something wrong with Opera. Had such Probs in the past too, but I always thought its my connection. Seem as if it's not.

DaveNCheez

DaveNCheez reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 7, 2006

As a longtime firefox user, I must say I am really really wowed by Version 9 of Opera. It is simply amazing. I really really like it. Hopefully the community will be able to extend it like Firefox has with extensions. If it wasn't for the vast extension support, Firefox would have very little over opera at this point. I still use Firefox as my primary browser because of a few "Can't live without" extensions, but I am now frequently opening pages in Opera 9, despite the lack of extensions. Opera 9 is really just that good. Totally impressed!

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 7, 2006

Ditto on almost all the comments I can see here. I couldn't be bothered to read all of them, but most of them are (quite rightly) favourable. Here in the UK one of the big banks is advertising a lot on TV urging people to change to them because their call centres are in this country, not somewhere abroad where labour is cheap. My own bank's site (HSBC) works faultlessly in Opera so it might be worth starting an advertising campaign: "Change your bank, not your browser!" for those whose bank Web sites don't support Opera!

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.01 Build 8518 Beta on Jul 7, 2006

ditto on hurzx's first paragraph.

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jul 7, 2006

best thing on the planet :P
after sex :)

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jul 4, 2006

There is no way I can nor want to research a product as thoroughly and comprehensively as Metshrine (those of you who flame him should recognize the obvious effort he puts into researching a product), so my review is based on my use of the most basic features of Opera which is all that really matters to me anyways, the most important being the site rendering issues it has been plagued with for so long. There is certainly improvement the likes of which I have not seen in the last version (8.??) I tested. The known (to me) sites that earlier versions had problems with are rendering perfectly now. This is a very encouraging development.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jul 3, 2006

It's always a bit weird to read comments as Metshrine's. I've been using Opera for years and never experienced such worries. I cannot understand people complaining about site rendering as if it happened frequently. OK, I experienced that also, but very rarely, so that I'm really wondering what sort of sites you visit... Crashes no, really no, I'm sorry. Frankly, certain build are buggy and hang up but things have dramatically improved since O9 and this particular build is near perfect for me. Even faster and no issues at all after several days. Perfect !

Another point : the reasons why I cannot use FF are Security holes as listed by Secunia and that famous extensions which are not updated at the same time as browser !!! and without some of them as Noscript, Adblock... FF is hopeless.

I must say I've been trying K-Meleon since last week. Impressive. A mus try. Faster than Opera but obviously very features-poor compared with Opera.

iyoul

iyoul reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jul 2, 2006

Opera is The Best Internet Browser

I have used opera for 8 years.

mesiex

mesiex reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jul 2, 2006

I use Windows 98 SE since 1998. It is no dobt an excellent product. As many hundreds of thousands old users around the world, I feel at ease forgetting computer worries and only repairing the machine when needed, as you do with any other home appliance.

I wont leave Windows 98 SE core for as long as I can, but I must leave Internet Explorer and Firefox according to Microsoft and Mozilla decisions.

That's why I tried Opera. Surprisingly I have found it is clearly the fastest of all three.

Welcome Opera. I suggest some minor improvements:

1- Bug: When you adjust the width of web pages the right side is cut.

2- Too many options for beginners. It would be a great improvement a modular installer.

3- The default configuration is too complex (only one toolbar to begin with, please).

Many Thanks, Opera, for your excellent work.

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jul 1, 2006

Bank and "secure" sites that requires Internet Exploited should be avoided by all means. If you still need to risk your money using IE, well, you can allways double click on that ugly blue "e" in your desktop and enter your (in)secure site there. Opera is not perfect, but is a great default choice, with almost every feature you may need included, no need for extensions. That's value.
Widgets and Bittorrent client are nice additions, for a great software, even if I don't use neither feature right now, they are there. 5/5

bggoth

bggoth reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jul 1, 2006

This may not be a perfect browser but I definitely prefer it over IE6/7 or FF... I'm also looking forwart to the release of 9.01 because of the bugfixes.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jul 1, 2006

This browser is still my default but I feel I might end up having to dump it. With the advent of o9, and this version included, I have experienced random crashes when performing various functions such as loading webpages from an external app (I.E., clicking a url on irc, on aim, or from an email. And before you start commenting, these are all to well known sites like betanews' software update notifications, or msn, or columbiahouse), refreshing a page, hitting back on several sites, or just typing an address into the address bar and hitting enter. These functions have all caused opera to crash. I've tried what the forum goers at opera.com refer to as a "clean install" even thou its pretty hard to mess up an upgrade from 8.54 being that you just hit NEXT on the installer the entire time. This isnt an isolated incident either, this happens to me at work on 3 computers, on my 4 computer's I have opera installed on at home, and 2 laptops which I've installed opera on for friends.

Another thing I hate about opera, which I know I am not alone in, is that since o9, I cannot stay logged in to many forums. Ever hour or so, I get logged out and when refreshing have to log back in. Its a very big annoyance since the remember me feature is supposed to do just that, REMEMBER YOU on that forum and let you remain logged in.

http://my.opera.com/comm...ums/topic.dml?id=146398

See that post for mine and many other user's complaints about this.

Opera is a great browser, it works well and is the most standards compliant browser. But I have to ask, what do standards really matter in a world where the standards compliant are not in the majority? I mean, I was always under the impression that whatever/whoever was in the majority set the standard, just like in the real world outside of software. I mean, if your browser cant display several sites properly, what does standards compliance matter? I have problems with slashdot of all sites, and it validates completely with the w3c validator.

Anyways, opera does have several good things going for it. I love its tab management. The RSS reader is great, although it is tedious to switch between feed sources, but thats no biggie for now. There are a lot of configuration options, and even more if you want to get into ini editing (Although, there is still lots of room for improvement with configurability, as I said before 3rd party support would be nice so I can FINALLY use roboform). The wand has improved in this version and works better than it did in the past. Widgets...Well, I really cant say anything good about them as I've found no real use for them, but they are there for people that do like them. Torrent support, if improved, will be nice although I still use utorrent.

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Daddy_Spank has sunk to a new low for opera fanboys, insulting users and banks accusing them of not taking "security" seriously because they dont support what is at best a niche browser. I have never had a problem with my bank in any browser except for opera, and that comes when using various forms that exist on my sites (bank of america, citibank, american express, chase, and wachovia). Telling users to switch banks because Opera doesnt support the bank's website, that is just utterly stupid and ignorant

Avion Airplane

Avion Airplane reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jul 1, 2006

this is a Great program I give it a 5

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jul 1, 2006

Call it what you want, but in my opinion its ignorant and stupid of certain banks not to support a browser with ZERO security vulnerabilities. I use commerce bank myself, and Opera has always behaved great.

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If your bank doesnt support Opera, switch to a bank that takes their customers internet banking security a little more seriously, and support browsers other than the highly insecure IE.

hariskar

hariskar reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jul 1, 2006

Great build!!

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jul 1, 2006

Opera 9 is simply a very good browser. It is fastest, most secure and most compliant (Acid2) on Windows.

Firefox users should read this and stop complaining.

http://www.FirefoxMyths.com

ssb

ssb reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jul 1, 2006

Probably the best browser right now, becomes even better every day.
I've something to tell to all those Firefox fanboys like AntiochMedia and the rest. If you really like Firefox then you have to "push" Mozilla's developers to do some serious debugging first, eliminating all those nusty memory and stability issues.

Many web designers, especially blog owners, use to design their websites following Firefox standards only, the same big mistake MS fans did with IE based websites. I understand that you like FF as a browser, that's fine. That doesn't mean that is the most standards-compliant browser out there.

Opera is way better on CSS than both FF and IE. Do you really know that Hakon Wium Lie, Opera's author, is essentially the "father" (aka inventor) of CSS?

ssstrong

ssstrong reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jul 1, 2006

Opera is The Best Internet Browser

i have used opera for 2 year

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jun 30, 2006

Excellent build! >>

«Save image as doesn't put it in transfers anymore + Last used search engine is now remembered»

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jun 30, 2006

torrent, widget should be optional, no rollback in latest version, all my settings are gone

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jun 30, 2006

I'm a fan...

bellgamin

bellgamin reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jun 30, 2006

Opera works on ALL versions of Windows, whereas the producers of Mozilla, Sea Monkey, Firefox, et alia, have chosen to follow the *Cairo* movement and thereby yield to M$'s forced obsolescence and thus abandon the users of legacy Windows OS.

Yes, the percentage of US users of legacy OS has become quite small percentagewise, but there are still hundreds of thousands who cannot upgrade. Moreover, there are LOTS of legacy OS users in other nations who don't have the hardware or finances to upgrade. For example, read . . .

THIS web page.

I consider that Opera's commitment to serve ALL users is a major PLUS for their excellent browser.

Over & above the preceding factor, Opera is a superb, state-of-the-art web browser. Fast. Stable. Loaded with features. Easy to configure and use. VERY secure.

nordlicht

nordlicht reviewed v9.01 Build 8509 Beta on Jun 30, 2006

Works fine,as always. Opera is small,fast and stable. And to all the FireFox-,IE7...and so on Fans out there: Betanews isn't the place to fight a regilious-like War for your Browser of choice. Try to make objective ratings in future.

Fred-Erik

Fred-Erik reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jun 28, 2006

*sigh* I'm getting bored of this. If you think that Opera aren't useful: don't use them. When you don't turn them on, you hardly notice the function is there.

About customization: Opera is VERY costumizable. Of course, you cannot add something directly to the source or whatever, but you can add your own button, plugins, user javascripts, bookmarklets etc. And for the 'powerusers': There are also much configurtion settings in the .ini files. Not that hard, too. The GUI is easily editable with just one right click. And of course, there is skin support. And it really isn't hard to customize. Not harder than in Firefox.

Have a look at this: http://my.opera.com/comm...;show=&perscreen=50

sinedinsidan2006

sinedinsidan2006 reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jun 27, 2006

Putting Opera up against an extensions loaded version of Firefox makes it almost impossible for Opera to win. There are countless add-ons available for Firefox that make it nearly limitless in its add-ons. I think that is what really separates the two browsers. I feel there are two separate audiences that these browsers are meant for. For an out of the box browser Opera wins hands down. For the power user, open source lover, and someone that wants to be able to customize their experience down to the last penny Firefox is the one.

Also Opera still has those horrible rendering problems and the useless widgets are annoying. I personally use Yahoo! Widgets on my Windows computers and the build in widgets in OS X 10.4 on my Apple Powerbook G4. Not only are they useless in Opera but not necessary. I think widget support was an attempt to compete with the extension support in Firefox, but was not well implemented.

Opera still can't be considered as a primary browser... not even secundary...

WoBiDi

WoBiDi reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jun 27, 2006

- eclipsingdivinity:

"But as a user i'll point out that the new features in Opera 9 are not really 'must have'...I think the 8 series had a more relevant approach to WHY it jumped a whole number. Now we're at 9 and I don't see why it's 9..."

Did you even bother to read the changelog? There are lots of changes to the CORE of the browser. I realize that most people may be unable to make such a connection, but I would expect people at BetaNews to at least understand that there's more to a program than the user interface!

- JavaJones:

"This seems fairly obvious by the continued frequent Opera 9 updates post-release. I don't recall them being so frequent after Opera 8 or 8.5."

Weekly builds are not "UPDATES", they are development snapshots intended for testing! Weeklies have been available for a long time now, and they obviously decided to continue with them after the release of 9.0.

That doesn't say anything about 9.0 itself, just that they decided to allow people to download weekly builds.

By your logic, every single version of Firefox is "released prematurely" because people can download nightly builds, even the same evening as a release of a new version!

HyipMaster.info

HyipMaster.info reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jun 26, 2006

After version 8414 i can not transaction properly in eGold.com
It always show error like below :

Error(s) detected:

This form cannot be processed. Either your session has timed out or you do not have cookies enabled in your web browser.

Anybody know how to reslove this ?

RootWebGod

RootWebGod reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jun 26, 2006

To: Paul Skinner; coover

To quote what I found from the Opera forums:

"We have now replaced the Windows installer files on the server with a repack (build 8502) that should address some installer problems. There are no other changes to the package."

Sources:
http://my.opera.com/comm...ums/topic.dml?id=145119
http://my.opera.com/comm...ums/topic.dml?id=145120

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jun 26, 2006

@coover:
Yes, you would be back-dating. However, you would be going back to the latest stable build of Opera 9.00. They released build 8501 as 9.00 Final originally, and have now fixed something and released a new Final version.

Build 8505 is indeed Opera 9.01 Beta even though it doesn't say it is (this was a known issue).

Does anyone know what was fixed from the previous 9.00 Final?

coover

coover reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jun 26, 2006

I'm confused. Last week I downloaded (and still have on my computer) Build 8505. Yes, it was listed as a Beta Build, and it's version number was listed as 9.01, but after download, I checked and found I had version 9.0 Build 8505 on my machine. So why should I download Build 8502? I'd be going backwards, or would I?

Now, as to the Firefox extensions that everybody raves about, they're good but they break ... everytime the Firefox developers change their browser for security purposes, or to make Firefox better. Extensions seem to be a big part of the Firefox Religion. Extensions are, however, one of the reasons I remain a Firefox critic. I'm still not a big Opera fan, but I use it a lot more than I do Firefox.

NEOBassDUDE

NEOBassDUDE reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jun 26, 2006

I love Opera.

Its a great browser thats low on resources and huge on features.

Although!

I cannot use Opera full time for a number of reasons:

1) Google Browser Sync / Toolbar
- I use this to sync my copies of firefox on multiple computers. Its seamless and effortless.
- Toolbar makes it extremely easy to fill forms in.

2) Adblock Plus (and accompanying filter updater)
- Best adblocking utility aside from admunch

3) IETab
- Because not everything renders perfectly (microsoft sites mostly)

4) StumbleUpon
- My Absolute most favorite extension in firefox...

5) Bugmenot
- Integrated into right click is awesome (probably a bookmarklet or something might exist out there too)

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When those things exist in some form or another and are as easy to use as in firefox then I won't use firefox anymore. Its that simple. Opera is great.

DACWILSOL

DACWILSOL reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jun 26, 2006

Create search still does not work and the browser still has problems rendering sites.

JavaJones

JavaJones reviewed v9.00 Build 8502 on Jun 26, 2006

To get this out of the way first, I'm now rating it a 3 because Opera 9 was IMO released prematurely. This seems fairly obvious by the continued frequent Opera 9 updates post-release. I don't recall them being so frequent after Opera 8 or 8.5.

Anyway, I actually enjoy Metshrine's lengthy reviews, though I do think Betanews' formatting standards and content display make them a bit cumbersome to read and enjoy. He makes a lot of valid points, many of which I agree with. I'll point out specifically what I don't agree with for now.

First off I'm glad Opera doesn't support every j-random toolbar around. Although I am definitely supportive of browser customization I think this is one area where - more than almost any other - the system is easy to abuse. Even legitimate toolbars like Yahoo's are really pretty bloated and crappy, adding little real functionality and taking up space and resources. Ok so some people may like it, but I'm just saying I don't find the lack of general 3rd party toolbar support a problem. Tools like that *can* be created for Opera - there could be Google Toolbar for Opera I believe, but it's just not a big enough market to warrant it. I *would* like better support for moving toolbars and other customization, but I don't miss 3rd party toolbars at all. I'd much rather have extensions.

Speaking of that, apparently it's a very little-known fact but Opera *does* have a plugin system. It apparently supports some version of Netscape plugins, although I'm fairly sure they have to be somewhat customized to work specifically with Opera. But again it *does* have a plugin system, and presumably a reasonable robust one as the few plugins that are developed for Opera seem to have fairly deep access. It's just not nearly as easy to use as FF's Extensions system so there are far fewer developers. I definitely find this frustrating. I think the worst thing about this is how little documented, marketed and supported the existing plugin support is. For example with Roboform I would think an Opera plugin could be made and, if the Roboform people won't do it, then I would like to see the Opera devs themselves take it upon themselves. Roboform is a very widely used app that Opera should be compatible with. At the least they should provide more documentation for the plugin support so that others can work with it.

I could rant on but I'm at work so must go. ;) To everyone else I say take the time to read what Metshrine is saying. I don't think he's an FF or IE fanboy, he seems to genuinely like Opera, as I do. But he also recognizes flaws in it, same as me. It's frustrating to see something so great, with so much potential, still failing in some key areas because of stubborness, bad priorities, or simply lack of resources and support.

- Oshyan

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 26, 2006

Blah!

I tried using the beta before this release so I wont complain about any bugs (the slowness of the torrent). But as a user i'll point out that the new features in Opera 9 are not really 'must have'...I think the 8 series had a more relevant approach to WHY it jumped a whole number. Now we're at 9 and I don't see why it's 9...It's got a content filter? A torrent, and thumbnail tabs. Along with little other adjustments. But it's still the same Opera. When I use Opera (I'm not a feature wh*** on programs) I don't notice much at all. It still renders fairly the same (badly), and it's still a quick little browser to control.

As a browser it's 'ok' but for the version it's presenting itself as, it does poorly.

Fred-Erik

Fred-Erik reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 26, 2006

A very good browser, highly customizable and when using it, you won't notice there is no extension support, like Firefox; it's just that you don't need them. Firefox is also a nice browser, but it uses too much memory and CPU on my system. And yes, even without extensions. Opera simply rocks!

@Xssshell: Try to turn off the VPU Recover function in the ATI Control Panel. That should work. Or install the Omega drivers.

T-C-L

T-C-L reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 26, 2006

I wonder why Metshrine even bothers to write long-winded posts ranting about Opera for every single version and build. What's the point?

You don't see me going over and bashing Firefox because Firefox fanboys are annoying, and because of Firefox's many problems with site compatibility. No, I stick with Opera and that's it.

I didn't bother to read Metshrine's comment in full, but I noticed this:

"Again, every browser (Heck, even LYNX (A TEXT BASED BROWSER) has an addon/plugin system) aside from opera can be customized by addons, extensions, whatever you want to call them."

Opera can be customized by addons too. You can download custom menus, toolbars, User JS, panels, etc. So yes, even OPERA has an addon/plugin system...

Anyway, back to Opera. It's smaller, faster and more secure than the competition. It's got loads of time-saving features built right in, and these features are created by professional developers who focus on usability and reliability rather than hobbyist coders who write an extension in their spare time.

And that is one of the main issues here: Opera's features just work. Firefox's extensions are nice in theory, but come across as an afterthought bolted onto the browser. And they break when you update Firefox.

Opera's features work, and they work out of the box. And when Opera introduces a new feature, you know it won't be long until someone in the Firefox camp copies it :)

So, Opera... Best rendering engine, fastest, more secure, and smaller. Innovators, not imitators.

And the best part is: ALL THOSE WONDERFUL EXTRA FEATURES DON'T GET IN THE WAY!

They are hidden until you actually need them or want to use them.

So yeah... I dumped Firefox a while ago because it has severe memory and resource problems, and because it breaks on lots of sites. Three out of four online banks I have access to don't work in Firefox at all. Opera works perfectly.

Xssshell

Xssshell reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 25, 2006

I love opera it is faster, more secure and better standard compliant browser than any other browser out there!
Hey I am a Webdeveloper and I know all browsers weaknesses.

But Opera has only one! It's not popular enough ;)

OK, there's something thats really bugging me and is not solved yet!
--WHEN I CLOSE OPERA MY SYSTEM FREEZES--
--AND I GET A BLUE SCREEN--
ERROR ATIDUAG.DLL read at base xyz..
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I've no viruses or other malware, I only Installed original stable ATI drivers and my system has NO faulty memory.

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 25, 2006

"Typical of Firefox fanboys to troll Opera reviews because they are insecure about their browser of choice :("

That sounds like something that Hitler would say.

And for my actual comment - I enjoy downloading each release of Opera. It's an extremely lightweight browser that I would recommend end users who do not require Yahoo! Mail or use of sites that have been written with large amounts of Javascript / AJAX. While Opera's rendering engine is the fastest, it chokes when javascript is mixed in - and that's one of the hurdles that Opera has to face for v10.0.

I view Opera's browser as a proof-of-concept. Their corporate identity is based on this browser, however, their main source of revenue is in the cell phone portable browsing market, where their browser is unrivaled in both quality and licensing.

Do I like Opera? Yes. I love it.

Would I use it instead of Firefox (or IE for that matter?) -- Hell, no. I've developed over 100 standards compliant websites and require Firefox's plugins and in my opinion, if Firefox and IE both render the page correctly and I can run my pages through a validator and get 0 errors there is absolutely no reason why Opera should choke.

I'm thrilled that Opera exists and I'm thrilled that a weekly beta is released. The Opera team are damned serious about their browser, and when their browser can truly be all of the things that many Opera Evangelists claim it is right now - Opera will make a huge dent in the market.

Until then, I would say that there's a direct parallel between Opera's slow adoption and Opera's current state of development. Brilliant software - can't wait for v10.

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 24, 2006

Excellent weekly build! For me, all pages works fine with Opera. Windows Live Mail (with Classic Hotmail View) and Gmail works fine for me.

chemluna

chemluna reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 24, 2006

Have been trying Opera for almost a week now and have to say that probably is a good idea to try to make an alternative browser and don't let IE to be the only one but Opera stays in that: just a good idea. Sorry but as it is now will not be as neither my primary or my secondary browser.
I reviewed the release before this one and could confirm the problems other guys where pointing: lots of pages are not properly displayed in the screen, unable to check my Yahoo mail beta accounts or Live Mail accounts.

willywonkah & plings:
Why an end-user should care if one or more websites ban Opera? Nobody is giving Opera a 1 star because it being discriminated. It's because due to that reason or not webpages aren't rendered properly! and properly display a webpage is what a browser is about! Is that so hard to explain/understand?

Please go and cry somewhere else!

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 24, 2006

To WillyWonkah
OK, I've experienced issues with opera on heavily JS'd sites, and no they arent blocking the browser because I have it set to identify as IE. So please, hold that excuse as it wont caw. Not every site is out to block opera, as much as the fans and devs would like to think. Its not a conspiracy to keep opera down.

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Opera has made chase.com useless when attempting to register a new credit card account. Opera has messed up Bank of america military banking's, citibank's, and american express's menu systems to the point that you have no means of navigation (Please note, this is for users with registered accounts on these sites, not the homepage). All of the aforementioned sites work fine in other browsers, to include several linux based browsers.

Opera does not have an auto-complete feature, because they feel it is a security risk to store this data on a pc where it could be hacked. Let me tell you, if my pc is hacked, the autocomplete history is the LAST thing I am worried about. Auto-complete is a standard feature in every browser aside from opera.

Another feature is working auto-fill. Yes, v9 added a type of auto-fill, but it fails to detect various site's fields as auto-fill capable requiring a right click to insert this data.

Opera's bookmark management is nice, but I have grown acustom to the way that IE, Firefox, K-meleon, and konqueror work allowing you to right click a bookmark in the menu system to manage it, sort it, delete it, etc. This seems to be a standard feature in most other browsers.

Opera users clammer about those two websites that show you how you can use features similar to firefox extensions. This is all well and good, but you know, I like a browser to not lock me in to what the developers feel I should have, but allow me to extend it. Again, every browser (Heck, even LYNX (A TEXT BASED BROWSER) has an addon/plugin system) aside from opera can be customized by addons, extensions, whatever you want to call them. Noticing a trend here? Opera seems like they are so set on being deviant that they wont impliment features that are mainstream, but instead decide to impliment features which are only useful to a niche of users; I.E. torrent support, voice support (as javajones pointed out, would be something a user would be handling at the OS level anyways. Why would they use it in only their browser and not any other app?), widgets (havent found a good use for these yet). A good addon/extension system would make opera just that much more appealing to its users. If security is such a big concern for the opera devs, make the addons have to go through a certification process. From what I hear, one dev worked on torrent support, so why cant one dev work on certifying an addon for use with the browser? I have been dying for roboform support since v7, and while there is some of its functionality in opera, it cant compare to what roboform has to offer. If you google for it, you will see many users requesting the same thing. If you search their forums you will see the same thing, many many users wanting roboform support. There are various other addons that could be made, heck, maybe someone would add an addon for auto-complete *GASP*.

Opera is highly customizable, but again, what would seem like a very basic customization doesnt exist. You cant rearrange toolbars. Here is where the hardcore fans clammer in "But you can remove and add any button you want to any toolbar, thus negating this lack of a feature". OK, How many home users are going to spend 5 minutes adding and removing buttons each time they want to rearrange their toolbars, be it only once on their first use? This might be well and good for us techie users, but I doubt a home user is going to spend the time to figure this one out.

Opera is good for security but with this comes sacrifice. Opera has chosen to not add 3rd party support, the autocomplete mentioned above, as well as password viewing and editing (wand passwords), along with other features in an attempt to remove any point of error from the user that could cause a security risk. Security is good, but when it interferes with what should be common place features or functionality, you have to question how much is too much.

Opera is a great browser, the best in my opinion, but I just cant rate it as highly as I think it will eventually deserve, as I explained further in my review below dated 19JUNE2006. After all, we are rating the current browser build, and not what it can be or how it compares to others, we are rating the functionality that exists.

Opera is fast, it is light on memory, and it does have a high amount of customizability. I use opera every day, it is my default browser, and I love the functionality that is present, but that doesnt mean it cant be expanded upon or that there isnt room for improvement (Which there is, and sorely so in some areas).

Overall, a good browser, but not worthy of a high rating in my book.

See the review dated 19JUN below for more details

Also, continue the discussion in a more mature atmosphere located here

http://www.donationcoder.../index.php?topic=4075.0

3/5

Now, on a side note.

I love reading these reviews where the so called "Opera fans" have to resort to insulting a user based on their review or because they rate it low due to not knowing a feature exists. This is even more prevelant in the latest beta thread here on FF located

http://fileforum.betanew...review/945720329/6/view

How about showing some RESPECT for a user's view? Nowhere in the TOS for betanews does it say you are required to agree with every review posted. I know, as a user, when I come to read reviews, I hate it when I see 5 star reviews that say nothing more than "The best", "Nothing beats it" or some equivelant. I like seeing users who rate it based on experiences because then that tells me more real world experiences and dont just give it a blind 5 without explaining WHY.

Why is that a MAJORITY (Not all) cant seem to respect the fact that someone might not hold the same views as you? Why dont you respect the fact that if a browser doesnt work for a user, they have every right to rate it low? Who are you to tell them that they cant rate it a 1 if it doesnt work on the sites they use? Will the average home user know that a website is blocking opera or feeding it alternate code? No. Will they care that opera is the most standards compliant browser? (Which doesnt matter when it cant display a majority of sites (The ones THAT DONT BLOCK OPERA) properly, to include several banking sites (many of which I've seen reported on opera's forums and via opera bug reports). No, they just want their browser to display websites properly. They dont care about standards.

EDIT

To T-C-L

This is called a review and I am entitled to display what I feel is wrong and missing from the browser. Since you didnt show enough respect to read my entire review before posting your flame, let me point out (as I did in my review) that I do use opera as my primary browser and I do feel it is a great browser, but it has its share of flaws that prevent it from being rated a 5. Unlike many of the sheep (read fanboys) around here, I am not going to post a glowing 5 just because I feel opera is the best browser. A 5 would indicate to the user that there are no flaws in opera, which is far from the case as in most pieces of software. A review should be based on functionality, or lack thereof, and not how you feel the browser performs under real world conditions, not some idealistic fantasy where everything is golden. If that were the case, I would be rating firefox a 1 all the time, but I dont because its not a bad browser, it gets a 3 from me because it also has its share of problems. Again, learn to respect peoples views, I never said anywhere in this review that you HAD to agree with me.

Also, Opera does not have addons in the sense that a home user would want to use. Yes, you can add custom menus and buttons, but what about toolbars that many home users are fond of? What about adding programs that add functionality to the browser (Roboform, For example)? Why should I be locked in, functionality wise, to what the dev's feel is best? The wand is far from the best, and roboform definitely would be a breath of fresh air for opera (and many users, just google for it or search the opera forums for roboform, you will see)

By the way, instead of saying "3/4 of the banks I have access to dont work", how about stating which banks so other users can chime in and let you know "Hey, this works for me" or "Hey, this doesnt work for me either"

plings

plings reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 24, 2006

I can't believe this! The guy below is giving Opera a rating of 1 because... Yahoo blocks it?! How is it Opera's fault that Yahoo specifically blocks it? Most sites that break in Opera are due to the sites specifically blocking Opera. Just use the new "mask as" feature and most pages will start working.

I'm not even going to honor Velocition's lame review with a real comment...

Typical of Firefox fanboys to troll Opera reviews because they are insecure about their browser of choice :(

bayernmunich44

bayernmunich44 reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 24, 2006

It seems that many many sites don't want to work with Opera or would it be that Opera is not prepared to work with them???

IE, Flock , Firefox, K-Maleon, etc, etc. work perfectly!

My 1 star is because of the problem I mentioned before and because lots of pages are not well rendered. Yahoo! Mail Beta stills says that "the browser you are using is not compatible.. blah, blah" and other pages have the same problem. I won't mention them here as other users have already made a list of some of them...

Also I miss at least 7 extensions present in Firefox that I need so much as they make my internet experience more enjoyable and productive.

Velocition

Velocition reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 24, 2006

Opera doesn't have nightlies.

willywonkah

willywonkah reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 24, 2006

I don't understand how beachgirl can give it such a low rating. Most useful Firefox extensions are already build in Opera after all, and if not, most can easily be done in Opera i some way:

http://virtuelvis.com/ar...-and-firefox-extensions
http://virtuelvis.com/ar...d-firefox-extensions-ii

For example, you don't need a Firefox extension to check your mail accounts! ColorZilla is implemented as a widget in Opera. And so on and so forth.

Also, Opera does not have problems with JS heavy sites. The problem is that certain sites SPECIFICALLY BLOCK OPERA.

willywonkah

willywonkah reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 24, 2006

EDIT: Firefox trolls like Velocition and bayernmunich44 above who come here just to give Opera a low rating with no real explanation is exactly why I dropped Firefox a while ago :(

"Opera doesn't have nightlies"?! And that is a good reason for a low rating?! It does have weeklies, but whatever.

My original review:

Nice, this fixes a couple of annoyances! :)

bunghole: Opera DOES have privacy option: Tools -> Delete private data. It's had that for AGES. As for your widgets comment, Opera is more easily customized than most other browser, including Firefox. Applying skins on the fly, etc., while Firefox requires a restart. Opera is a lot better at these things for non-geeks.

And Vimes: You are giving Opera a low rating because sites block Opera?! I don't get it. You blame Opera for being discriminated against?!

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 24, 2006

My opinion based on my usage...

Yahoo beta does not work - I like to use the beta version of Yahoo mail.

I can't use my bank for online transactions as it comes up with the following message...
Internet Banking
Sorry, you are unable to access Internet Banking. This may be due to browser incompatibility.

Some forum tools will not work, in the forums that I visit some formatting options will not apply to my posts.

For some reason I can't make the download tab (the Window that shows your current downloads) to appear like FF or IE - that is a small seperate floating window rather than a large full sized tabbed Window. I especially like the way that FF shows all your previous downloads in that small floating Window.

All the above work with FF, IE or Maxthon that I'm using now.

willywonkah
I am basing my review on MY experience on using the browser. I am not blaming Opera for being 'discriminated' against (if indeed it is) I am just expressing an opinion on what value Opera is to me in its current form. I have made my bank aware of the issues with Opera as well as Yahoo, Opera are aware as I have mailed them on both issues. I see my rating of 3 as not being low but being in the middle of the rating system. I loved using Opera but I also use my online banking a lot and I do like to use the beta form of Yahoo mail. The forum formatting issues and the download tab is an inconvenience I could manage with but the other two issues cause me to use Maxthon as they are important to my online experience.
Of course other peoples opinions will be different, but I respect that not all things will be the same for all people.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 24, 2006

Absolutley the best. No other even comes close.
bunghole, your requirement to search from the address bar without first having to type g is nonsensical. How is the browser supposed to know which search engine you want to search and indeed if you want to search rather than go to a website. As for the having to type "g", i don't think it's going to give you RSI any time soon.
DrJorgeB, it doesn't work on sites like Yahoo! mail beta because they are retarded enough to use browser sniffing and non standard code, not because Opera is unable to support those features.
All the browsers you mention other than explorer all use Gecko, which is not as standards compliant as Opera.

Lands

Lands reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 24, 2006

All the websites pages I usually visit are properly rendered for me.

Still the best browser around.

Lug

Lug reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 24, 2006

Ukrainian linguage file for Opera 9.00 - 01 you can take here http://www.ukrlocal.info/

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 24, 2006

(1) I really wish they'd implement tab options that are available in Maxthon, Avant, Firefox, K-Meleon, K-Ninja, and pretty much every other tabbed browser. Specifically Opera should have the option of automatically switching to the tab left of the current tab when closing a tab, rather than switching to the previously selected tab.

(2) An option to automatically clean history, cache, etc., upon exiting the program is needed. Virtually every other browser has this option. Previous versions of Opera had a commandline switch for this, but for some reason they dropped it and never put it in the main program. (Willy, I know about the Delete Private Data option, but there's no automatic way to do it.)

(3) An option to search directly from the URL bar without having to type g first. Yes, I know that's what the search box is for, but it's too small and unresizable. Plus I just prefer just to do it from the main URL bar. Again, every other browser has this already. (Anonturd, it's not nonsensical since every other browser does it. The browsers know which search to use because you tell them which one to use as default. They know if you want a website if you use .com,. net, etc, or use an alias. To use other searches, you use a trigger letter first as in Opera.)

I can't see how any of what I mentioned would be difficult to implement.

I'd really like to use Opera as my primary browser, but I can't until the Opera team focuses more on basic customizability and function and less on useless widgets.

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

OMG!! This is a BETA! Dont use it if you dont want to!! If you have problems with BETA releases then dont visit this website!

DrJorgeB: No problems with Yahoo mail for me. No problems with Swedish bank Handelsbanken.

DrJorgeB

DrJorgeB reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

WHAT? a new release after the official????
That's going to show us the "efficiency" of Opera's developers...
Still problems with Citibank, Bank of America, Yahoo mail, Live mail, Blogger, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

crowbar82: Yeah, as usual Opera works perfect on non-common websites... :-/
but with the most visited ones totally fails...
It seems that you are not a Yahoo Mail Beta tester yet... anyway, Firefox, IE, Flock, K-maleon, etc don't have problems with it. But guess who is unable to properly handle it?

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

@coover:
You can have multiple homepages. Try saving a session of the pages you want to be loaded each time you open Opera.
There's a little checkbox that says 'Show these tabs and windows every time I load Opera'; check it.

Dadaa.

treworld

treworld reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

TELL OPERA TO STOP RELEASING BETAS SO QUICKLY! THIS IS LIKE A NIGHTLY BUILD OR SOMETHING. They should release PATCHES instead.

guti

guti reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

After the fast 9.0 launch, it is a normal fact to get a series of 9.0x releases for polishing details and stability improvements.

9i08

9i08 reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

sasesi, your right. its beta beta beta

larfing my a** off

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 23, 2006

Blocking flash add !
This is what i need :) 5 points for Opera

coover

coover reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

Opera is an excellent browser which, unfortunately, still lacks certain features that I prefer, such as multiple home pages. At least 3 other browsers have this feature, Avant, Orca, and (gasp!) IE7 beta 2. Firefox, the browser which seems to have become a religion, lacks this feature, even with all of it's extensions.

Several of the Firefox devout tout extensions as the reason that Firefox is the best browser. It is my opinion that extensions are one of the reasons that Firefox should be avoided. The reason is simply this ... extensions are not written by the Firefox developers. The Firefox developers do try to keep their browser up-to-date and secure. Whenever a change is made to the Firefox browser (for whatever reason, adding a feature or fixing a security problem), many of the extensions are broken. They no longer work. Folks dependent upon the extension features have to wait, sometimes several weeks for the extension writer to fix the problem, and sometimes, it just can't be done. I'd rather use a browser with abilities I know will remain, rather than one with abilities that might be lost next week.

sasesi

sasesi reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

Its NOT BETA

beachgirl_18

beachgirl_18 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 23, 2006

I really wish Opera grows and gets to the point to compete with Firefox.
I still can't make the switch due to many VERY USEFUL extensions that Firefox has and Opera doesn't.

Firefox isn't the fastest browser but it can SPEED UP your daily work as with for example, the extensions that automatically check your email accounts for you (Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, POP3s), the SiteAdvisor that check if a site is dangerous or a spammer, ReminderFox, ColorZilla which is a wonderful developer helper, SwitchProxy, etc, etc. all of these make your daily work easier and faster.

Opera has the best User Interface available, it loads pages really fast (too fast sometimes that pages are not displayed as they should be...) but as I have tested and prove, it can't render pages with heavy JavaScript programming as the new Yahoo Mail, Live Mail, also the services offered by Google as Blogger and others render useless in Opera.

If I rate 1 it would mean that Opera is totally useless which is not but what we are jugding here is if Opera could be a replacement for IE (or at least 90% of the time) and Opera fails at it.

Opera -at this stage- should be considered more a winner wannabe bunch-of-guys-dream than a real capable competitor in real-life competence.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

Diam0nd, why dont you try and respect peoples views? If opera doesnt work for a user, they have every right to rate it a 1 despite how they might make good comments about it. Opera, currently, does not support auto-complete, does not have a way to manage bookmarks via direct menu clicking (I.E., right click the bookmark menu entries), along with many other problems. Opera is fast, I will give it that, it is also a light browser, I will give it that, it does support web standards, I will give it that as well (although that is kinda pointless when it cant even display a majority of sites PROPERLY (KEYWORD)). Opera prevented me from registering on chase.com for my credit card account (This worked fine in a majority of linux based browsers as well as firefox, ie, k-meleon for windows.

For you to tell someone how THEY should rate a piece of software, is just indicative of your lack of respect for the fact that not everyone agrees with you or your views. For a more detailed summary of the faults in opera, please read my other review located here

http://fileforum.betanew...for_Windows/945720329/1

or

http://www.donationcoder.../index.php?topic=4075.0

But please, learn to respect someones views and dont insult them for rating the browser how they feel it should be rated.

EDIT

Crowbar, People should be allowed to rate a beta as they see fit. If the beta doesnt work on websites they visit, then why should they rate it high?

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

beachgirl_18:
most of the things you have said in your post below are YOUR subjective vies. Latest beta of Opera 9.0 with JRE 6 Beta 2 and macromedia plugin can load 99.9 pages PROPERLY. So next time I suggest you LEARN to properly use the software, before you rate it 1. Also, you are being SO inconsistent. How come you said good things too about Opera but then in the end STILL you rate it ONE? ONE, the lowest mark here. Unbelivable..

skonrad

skonrad reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

Great brwoser, but is it only me where Opera 9 crashes/hangs after a couple of minutes? Opera 8 is fine, no problem, same with Firefox. I was hoping they would fix it for the final, but it seems to be a problem of Opera 9 in combination with my machine.

beachgirl_18

beachgirl_18 reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

I really wish Opera grows and gets to the point to compete with Firefox.
I still can't make the switch due to many VERY USEFUL extensions that Firefox has and Opera doesn't.

Firefox isn't the fastest browser but it can SPEED UP your daily work as with for example, the extensions that automatically check your email accounts for you (Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, POP3s), the SiteAdvisor that check if a site is dangerous or a spammer, ReminderFox, ColorZilla which is a wonderful developer helper, SwitchProxy, etc, etc. all of these make your daily work easier and faster.

Opera has the best User Interface available, it loads pages really fast (too fast sometimes that pages are not displayed as they should be...) but as I have tested and prove, it can't render pages with heavy JavaScript programming as the new Yahoo Mail, Live Mail, also the services offered by Google as Blogger and others render useless in Opera.

If I rate 1 it would mean that Opera is totally useless which is not but what we are jugding here is if Opera could be a replacement for IE (or at least 90% of the time) and Opera fails at it.

Opera -at this stage- should be considered more a winner wannabe bunch-of-guys-dream than a real capable competitor in real-life competence.

Diam0nd: I rated 1 because of what I said before. I cannot use it 90% or even 80% of the time due Opera doesn't cover MY needs. At this moment Opera is useless to me. I can't see a reason to use it when I have Firefox or Internet Explorer which have much less problems than Opera. But to be honest, OK I will give it 1 more star because I can probably load my 4 years old cousing websites in it (cartoon network, jetix, etc.) to avoid him changing some personal settings in FF by accident. Hope the mentioned websites load without problems...

EDITED: NOP, Opera totally failed to open my little cousin's website (Nickelodeon's some of the flash games). That's why I'm returning Opera it's 1 star.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

Whee! I was beginning to go cold turkey after a couple of days without a new build! ;-)

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.01 Build 8505 Beta on Jun 23, 2006

And the development goes forward. :D
The weekly releases continue!

nomina

nomina reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 23, 2006

AD BLOCKING! Worth the upgrade alone! Love that you can change settings for individual sites.

They improved on Opera 8, who'd have thought! :)

The best just got better.

Hewz

Hewz reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 23, 2006

So my friend is a long time Opera user and he told me about the ad blocker in Opera 9... I'd grown weary of Firefox's bugs and incompatibilities so I thought I'd give Opera a go.

'Big mistake' I thought when I read the reviews on this site, but the funny thing is that I really don't recognize myself in any of the one-point ratings. I mean seriously, a one-point rating would mean that Opera is completely unusable and probably the worst program there is. But that is certainly not the case. Even if you are a huge Firefox fan you have to recognize Opera's strengths, such as small size, speed, and also being more secure than even Firefox. Even if you prefer something else over Opera doesn't mean that Opera is useless!

Now that I've dumped Firefox I wouldn't give it a rating of one just because I found something better. I'd give it a 3, due to it being slow and unstable, and my extensions keep breaking.

Now, if the lowest rating cannot be justified, how can I justify giving Opera a 'perfect' score? Simple. It fits my needs perfectly. It starts quickly, operates quickly, and has loads of nice features like mouse gestures, saving sessions, etc. And the cool thing is that these features keep working when you upgrade Opera, unlike Firefox extensions...

Anyway, maybe Opera isn't perfect for everyone, but to me it's the best there is. I'll be damned if I let some silly Opera bashing by Firefox fans (I used to be one, and I must admit that I used to bash Opera before I actually gave it a proper go) convince me that I should stop using Opera and go back to Firefox.

plings

plings reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 23, 2006

I used to be a diehard fan of a certain other open source browser, but the latest versions of Opera have just been getting better and better. The previous version had some missing functionality, like using formatting when posting in various forums, but Opera 9.0 addresses this and many other problems. It's also as secure and fast, unlike... well, most other browsers ;)

Richiez

Richiez reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 23, 2006

This update brings new things that are really important, such as rich text editing capabilities, which was really needed. Of course, many sites will block Opera from using it using browser sniffing, but it usually helps to contact the site admin.

Other than that, what is there to say? Still the best. Most secure, most stable, etc. Looks like there's some organized effort by Firefox fans to pollute the reviews, though.

FriscoKid

FriscoKid reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 23, 2006

I been using Opera since its first release, actually paid for previous versions. Firefox may have lots of external add-ons (extensions) but I prefer Opera's internal customizability. I am a touch typist and I like that I can browse, open new panels, move back and forth, save bookmarks, and other actions without leaving the keyboard.
Regarding "problems" with version 9--go to Firefox. Loyal Opera users who appreciate the small use of system resources, wonderful little features like the ability to open a new panel next to previous panel, ability to go to previous panel by keystroke combination, loyal users know that Opera developers will continue to improve the product.
Regarding utilization of Opera versus IE and Firefox: I bet many people, myself included, use Opera in IE compatibility mode, so that it appears as though we're using IE. Many pages which reviewers complain won't rend in Opera will do so if IE mode (F12 to set) is specified.
Version 9 is not as fast as version 8, but I'm patient and expect further development. I use IE only for Windows update and a few pages which won't accept Opera. Try opening 10 IE pages and see how few resources are left. Then try the same thing with 10 Opera panels. Your machine will hardly slow down.

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 22, 2006

Untill v8.52 it was a great browser, v.9 is simply a crap, the rendering problems in this version are intolerable, why add torrent support to a browser when there so many programs for that purpose out there?... the "widgets", what a useless crap!!! why they added such a stupid feature. They lost the path and I really doubt that could be a return from this way of think a browser, really a desapointment.

naldino2006

naldino2006 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 22, 2006

Problems with Citibank website when reviewing my credit card balances!

Problems with Bank of America when trying to transfer founds from one account to the other. No probs when using IE or Firefox!

Problems with Yahoo! Mail beta. Opera is not supported or Opera doesn't support it. In this point I should say that Opera MUST do all possible to be compatible or what do the Opera devs think?! that a small percentage of people use Yahoo! Mail?

Problems with Live Mail, same think as above! Opera developers, WAKE UP! Neither Yahoo or Microsoft will modify the way they are coding just because you want to set new standards!

Problems with Macromedia's registered users area. Seems that all flash is ignored!

Problems when using Blogger. In the User Control Panel all buttons are missing. Opera can't handle them!

Problems with blogs featuring Radio Blog. Radio Blog is simply missing!

No problems when visiting text-based websites.

No problems when visiting porn websites.

Hope Opera improves with next versions but it seriously doubt it. The same problems have been present from previous versions and nothing has been done!

Radu Coc

Radu Coc reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 22, 2006

Simply THE BEST!

messinfanboyspants

messinfanboyspants reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 22, 2006

@munga42: the only mess here is the one that the Opera fanboys make whenever a new version is released! hehehe

why don't you tell us why you rated Opera 5-stars?

probably is because there is nothing good to say about this software... right?

i rate it 1 because of rendering problems and incompatibilities with new Yahoo and Live mail services among other pages that are awfully displayed! and as other guy said, not even Opera's main page is displayed well!!!!

munga42

munga42 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 22, 2006

Someone please clean up the mess here..

brannko

brannko reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 22, 2006

I was waiting for final version of Opera 9 and here it comes. What to say... This is ridiculous!!! It has so many problems. It even doesn't render www.opera.com properly (I mean that page that first opens and shows party - can you see the picture of party in Opera 9 - No!). I couldn't import my Thunderbird emails. Sometimes it has problems with UI (I can literaly see how the buttons are being drawn - so slowly). And I am so happy that I now have that technological miracle - WIDGETS! Whau! I don't know if I could live without them. It is so useless that it is best described with .(yes with no single word). Well, someday we might get a decent browser from Opera team, but till that day I recommend to use something different.

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 22, 2006

Opera rules...
Burn the firefox boys
i bet they have never install opera....

PunkTiger

PunkTiger reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

I don't know what Chemluna, Maryk and r_soldier are talking about, Yahoo Mail works fine in Opera. Online banking thru my bank also works perfectly in Opera. My system is Linux (Mepis 6 beta 4) as well.

I've been an Opera user for many years (at least since Opera version 3), and I am quite happy with the performance, configurability and speed of this browser. I'm glad they got rid of the Widgets tab as default for the final release (I was never a fan of the Widgets). I've found Opera 9 to be very stable and will display most web pages perfectly.

Parting words: F12 is your friend. Firefox advocates need not apply, at least, not without an open mind.

maryk21

maryk21 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

crowbar82:

if you don't use a browser for checking bank accounts, don't use Yahoo mail, don't use Hotmail, don't care about Flash websites that don't render properly... then what the f**k do you use an Internet browser for?

as r_soldier said, probably Opera users are just browsing through porn pages ;-\

And asking where am I from is not the solution and you know it. Or what do you mean? that Opera is just for US users? is so, let everybody know so people can decide whether to stop using it or not!

Are you going to ask many other users as: chemluna, Vimes, Brian49(who even rated it 5-stars), etc, etc. that also have problems with their banks websites, where are they from too? (!)

chinobis

chinobis reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

The best browser gets even better. I think most of the new stuff is wellcomed. And i know, many of these features will (again) be copied by the other browsers. Someone needs to read the manual first though in order to better understand the Opera, there's a whole orchestra of stuff crammed in there.
My major gripe is the one about the rendering (or non rendering) of some sites. I dont give a rat's behind if a site violates this and that of the wcw or other standards, i just want Opera to be able to display this site correctly as most other browsers do. For those rare instances that a site is non-renderable in Opera i keep ff and ie as backups, but thank Gawd, i only have to use them (ptui ptui ptui!) rarely.

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

I dont use Yahoo mail and I dont give a f**k about Live Mail... all the pages I visit works fine with Opera. I dont know which websites you visit but I dont have a problem with Opera.

PS: All Yahoo mail users... maby you should send a email to Yahoo and tell them that it dont work with Opera, mabye its not Operas fault

maryk21: Who said that I dont use Opera for email? I dont use Yahoo mail thats what I said. I dont know which websites you visit but I have around 100 bookmarks and they all work with Opera (no pornosites). I understand if you dont use Opera becose Yahoo mail do not work with it but I dont have eny problems with opera.

chemluna

chemluna reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

have been using Opera since yesterday and I got sick of it! lots of pages that I visit daily are not properly displayed in my screen and it's annoying! I'm unable to check my Yahoo mail accounts, Live Mail is not handled either. And just to see if the users that mentioned that their bank's sites don't work with Opera I decided to check it for myself and it's true. Links don't work in two of my banks websites.
I will go back to my trusty Firefox with all the extension I also miss. Opera is not a good competitor to Firefox or Internet Explorer yet.

Yogurth

Yogurth reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

So what makes Opera better than IE or FF?

o1. Security.
Look at how fast is FF closing to undisputed king of security flaws, IE. Over 20 security patches from day 1.5 was released.

o2. Constant innovation and feature drive.
Mouse gestures, Tabs,... in this release Bittorent client, Widgets

o3. Speed.
Starts as fast as IE on Windows platform, several times faster than FF. Renders pages,cycles through tabs, moves back/forward absolutely fastest on any platform

o4. Performance.
Compared to competition, it's extremely memory efficient, has tiniest memory and HD footprint. Talk about good code ^^

o5. Add here...

Opera is not perfect browser, but in a world of non-perfect browsers Opera comes closest to that Goal.

@r_soldier.
You obviously do not understand word security in world of online browsers or otherwise You wouldn't made such an idiotic statement. Opera supports all current encryption methods used on Secure sites. AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BROWSER SECURITY VULNERABILITIES!!! It means that web site hasn't been coded to either follow web standards or support Opera.

Yahoo!Mail Classic works fine in Opera. I check my Yahoo mail with Opera without any problem. Flash sites work also without any quirks.

I wonder why do ppl even bother to post/lie here If they aren't using Opera?

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

Seems very stable and I do enjoy using it although I had a couple of problems...

Yahoo mail beta would not work, notification sent to Yahoo, but since I have noticed that this has been mentioned by other people in the Opera forums I am not too optimistic for a quick fix.

My bank would not allow me to access my account, IE and FF work fine.

Back to FF for now...

MellonCollie

MellonCollie reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

Erotic!

Brian49

Brian49 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

This version is generally very good, but is unusable with my bank's website, so I'm staying with v.8.54 which handles it fine.

Edit: I've revised my rating as I've found that the above issue can be dealt with by tweaking site preferences.

ssb

ssb reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

Opera used to be the lightest browser in resource usage and still is. Authors managed to fit an excellent web browser, email client, newsgroups reader and a lot of other useful stuff in a small package.
Although never liked the "All in one" concept, I admit that Opera’s modules are very functional, sometimes better than other dedicated applications.

Many people accuse Opera that is doesn’t comply with web standards and it doesn’t render right all websites. And which browser really renders all sites correctly, Firefox? During last two years, I’ve noticed hundreds websites that Firefox was not able to render correctly. Does that mean that IE, which renders them all just fine, is a better browser?

Never been a fan of Opera (and FF), but latest versions, 8 and 9, are very good and IMHO much better than Firefox, application quality wise. Who care if Firefox has “Extensions”, all that functionality is built in Opera in a single small, secure and fast package.

Highly recommended

Adie

Adie reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

I got some problems with this version but all were related to old configuration files. These days there only few sites that are unusable with opera (mostly ASP.NET tutorials from MS). Recently I found that even IE7.0beta2 renders some sites incorrectly so if site is usable it's ok for me. Anyway I couldn't find other so much superuser friendly browser out there

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

I like opera, fast. This version is a bit annoying specailly when I have to enter userID and password for every tab that was open before for proxy authentication, which I had to do only 1 time in the previous verstion.
the other thing, these widgets did not install automaticaly like they say. I copied them in widget directory after unzip, still did not reconize them in the widget page.

as for the rendering, some web site they do not go standard, I do not mind much.

I use mix of FF opera , and maxthon..

JigPu

JigPu reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 21, 2006

I've used Opera since version 8 because of Firefox's slightly excessive memory use. In the time since, I've found only a handful of sites which render incorrectly. Similarly, from Firefox 0.7 to 1.1 (when I switched to Opera) only a handful of sites rendered incorrectly. Mabey I just don't visit enough of the internet =D

The one failing point of Opera IMO is that it does not support extensions. While Opera has packed a LOT of features into a small footprint (major kudos to them!), there are some things that I just miss from Firefox. Without an extension system, the only way I'll ever see these features is to write to the devs and hope they appear in a subsuqent release. It's not a major problem (the features that come stock go a ways to fufilling my needs), but it certianly would be nice if it wasn't so closed :(

guerreropaolo

guerreropaolo reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

I paid for Opera when they charged to get rid of those nasty ads. But I was dissapointed with it's performance then that I even requested my money back. Which they did. I am totally surprised to find that the same problems from version 7 are present in this one! It hasn't evolved yet! Now a torrent search engine was added, the mail function that only a few people use is still present.
Sorry but I have to agree with many guys here that rate it 1, 2 or 3. They are right in their reviews: pages don't render well, very well-known and highly used websites become useless in Opera.

Definitely Opera is not for everyone, it's just for people who like to mess around the options menu and trying to guess how to make websites work in the browser and have fun with it.

Busy users won't have the time to guess what is going on with their favorite website that doesn't look correctly in the screens.

Opera is pretty but this is not what we are judging here.

bayernmunich44

bayernmunich44 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Blaxima, Firefox is indeed the second most used browser and mainly because FF works perfectly with the most used websites. I won't mention them here as they have been mentioned before.

You recommend people to go to secunia.com but secunia.com hasn't all the credibility it would want mainly because is not professional!

I've noticed that many Opera-groupies always mention secunia.com... probably because is the only website that gives you the reason :\

I use opera from time to time because I find it has terrible deficiencies when rendering pages.

2 stars for the intention but nowadays Flock is a much better option than Opera.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

sebastianbechio = A typical FF fanboy who doesnt even know the truth about the browser he's slurping on.
Renders 99% of web pages does it? hahahaha, nope it doesn't do that.
Have a look at the facts on what a secure browser is.

Opera
http://secunia.com/product/4932/

FF
http://secunia.com/product/4227/

and if ur interested in my first choice
http://secunia.com/product/4110/

Opera is not the memory pig that FF is but it is not as customizable as it should be considering its rivals abilities. I like Opera and will continue to watch it closely.

EDIT. I can't help but laugh at the review above. I never said FF wasn't the second most used browser and I use Maxthon which disqualifies me as an Opera groupie.
Read first and post second.(its only cuz ur a Bayern Munich fan that I'm being nice)
I would give Flock a try if it came in zip version

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

What princeofpentacles said!

princeofpentacles

princeofpentacles reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Yes this is simply the best browser out there :)..Never mind what firefox fanboys have to say,lol

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

wow it seems like the same idiot posted a few comments with different display names :-/

sebastianbechio

sebastianbechio reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Firefox has extensions that work better than Opera's widgets.

Firefox can block pop ups very well.

Firefox have very interesting themes.

Firefox is the second most used browser in this planet.

Firefox renders pages by far better than Opera does.

Firefox has more useful extensions not present in Opera yet and I believe they'll never be.

Firefox works without problems with Blogger, Google Calendar, Bookmarks, Yahoo! Mail, and 99% of the websites out there.

Firefox has a community of intelligent people and not a small group of guys so excited when a new version is released that I am almost sure they make a mess in their pants.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

People raving about Opera:

I block thousands of sites using adblock. I don't see ads: ever. I can't import this list in opera. It's the single most important feature to me, it's why I use FF, and it works great.

Every time I try Opera I look for some basic ability to import the look and feel of FF _or_ IE into Opera, it fails. That means toolbar location, bookmarks, the pages I want in my tabs, at the most basic level.

I'll keep Opera 9 installed, but it's unlikely I'll use it day to day. It's a close #2 to FF however.

porlcurez

porlcurez reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

I was looking forward to this new version but it seems that the guys at Opera hate Internet Explorer and Firefox users and try to create their own standards that no one will even try to follow.
I regret it because Opera has the best UI in the browser category but it's main goal should be to help users to be able to read their emails, post in their blogs and display websites properly.I expected more from them but I am disappointed.

MARQUEZ_133

MARQUEZ_133 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Hello. This is my first post in Betanews!
I don't know how to say this, I have some mixed feelings. On one side the look of Opera is nice but on the other side it doesn't work! I get the following message when trying to access my Yahoo! mail inbox:

"Sorry, Yahoo! Mail Beta does not support your browser. You can either download a compatible browser or proceed to the original Yahoo! Mail."

I can understand that probably the fault is on Yahoo side but anyway if I were to use Opera I wouldn't be able to read my emails anymore!

I'm so sorry but I have to rate it a 1.

gasparin20061

gasparin20061 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Those of you who rate Opera with more than a "3" I call you all the "poor yes-men" gang. Opera programmers can give you garbage and you will accept it gracefully.

You say that the main problem is because of a bad configuration??? WHAT???

From the point of view of a regular user... why Opera doesn't come configured with the "right settings"? Instead it seems to be determined to make most users stay away from it.

Sorry clawso1 but you are one of the many lamers yes-men that Opera seems to attract so badly.

BTW, tell us what the "right settings" are so we can rate it 5 OK? If you don't do so is because there are no "right settings" and you must accept that Opera is far far away from to be called a "good browser". We all want to hear from you again Clawso1 so the idea that many may have from you now may vanish...

clawso1

clawso1 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Those of you who rate Opera with less than a "3" I call you all the "Dope & Dog-food gang," because that is certainly what you must be on, because Opera is the BEST browser one can use, period!!!

One of the main problems that you all have is "Configuration"--- you don't know how to configure Opera and then you cry about it doesn't work right!

JasonCooperCure

JasonCooperCure reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

haha... yeah great review from Fatal! hahaha
And this is not the only stupid 5-star review you can find here.
99.9% of all these 5 raters just say non-senses all the time. I am sure that they use IE & FF because Opera can't be considered as a main daily broswer. Too many problems rendering pages, even well known ones.
Sorry... 1 little star for you Opera.

MANTHONY_89

MANTHONY_89 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Please, read Fatal's review below and laugh. How can anybody rate 5 to a product if "In spite of the fact that build 8501 sems to me not ready to be called a final release, it's pretty good overall."

"Hopefully some bugs and regressions will be fixed soon in 9.01, 9.02, etc...
At this time enjoy all new Opera 9 with new features and new supported standards!"

What kind of review is that. Can anybody take any of those 5-raters seriously?

Opera is not a replacement for IE yet!

Bear this in mind.

As other forum member recommended, click on the "View all reviews" link and read better reviews of this piece of crap.

FataL

FataL reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

In spite of the fact that build 8501 sems to me not ready to be called a final release, it's pretty good overall.
Hopefully some bugs and regressions will be fixed soon in 9.01, 9.02, etc...
At this time enjoy all new Opera 9 with new features and new supported standards!

carman01010

carman01010 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Based on some good reviews I decided to give it a try. The first site I tried was Blogger as I update my blog everyday. Opera COMPLETELY FAILED to handle Blogger as I don't know why all the buttons in the Control panel are missing!
Bad news so far. Then I decided to try it on Yahoo! Mail to see for myself if it was true that Opera fails to handle it. Well, Opera COMPLETELY FAILED to open Yahoo! Mail properly.

Please, please, please! guys who rate Opera 5 stars tell me how can you recommend such a product when it fails so much?

I kindda like Opera's UI but this is not it's primary funtion. It seems that nothing can beat Firefox. At least not for now.

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Do not base your feelings about how Opera works by what is written here. Try it out for yourself.And give yourself a good week before making up your mind.

Lands

Lands reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Definitely a great improvement over the 8.5 version.

Stable, fast, lots of cool features (like widgets and block content), everything I want from a browser. Overall the perfect browsing experience.

I tried almost all the browsers available today and this is by far the best.

Blackhole8746

Blackhole8746 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

I do not enjoy using Opera, I don't believe it deserves being anyone's default browser

alanPER

alanPER reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

New users, please click on the "VIEW ALL REVIEWS" link and don't just read the 5 stars rates. If you notice all of these 5 stars raters have nothing good/bad to say about the product. Just nonsenses. Have Opera-fanboys brains?
Kisses

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Opera has terribly slow javascript support and does not like to render many IE/FF copmliant pages correctly.

As a sleek app, it's very nice and very fast.
I enjoy testing each version.

Why do all of my menus in Opera change to bold courier on upgrading my current install? It's been this way for months of betas...

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Could it really get any better? :D

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

So, it's out at last! Hopefully this will stop those ridiculous posts from those complaining about how hard it is to HAVE to download the daily builds. :]

jamon

jamon reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

ha ha ha! Firefox!

if you look on list of extensions for "FF" you figureout that you can make opera from firefox!

So FF is better... in dreams!

Slow ugly ... memory hungry!

Opera rulez!

toymachine

toymachine reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Very complete now, I like having everything all in one without plugins. Pictures on PlanetElderScrolls render correctly now.

Aparently Aguita can write a review, but can't figure out Caps-Lock.

Paradise-FH-

Paradise-FH- reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

i would hardly agree that what it lacks in rendering it makes up for with having buttons that fade in and out when you hover over them.

obviously people don't use web browsers to browse the web anymore.

betabetabeta

betabetabeta reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Simply Amazing!! Kicks ass!!

This is a web browser of the future. One day IE will die, Firefox will die, but Opera will survive.

Agreed it is not the best renderer for some websites, but it is the best for all commonly used websites.

What it lacks in rendering, it makes up in UI. So when it comes to features and moreover customizable features Opera leads the rest.

AgUiTa

AgUiTa reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

"State-of-the-Art Browser! 1st in using new web-standarts! "

OOHH NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY THIS BROWSER CAN'T HANDLE MANY MANY WEBSITES AND APPEAR TOTALLY WRONG IN MY SCREEN...

"Most complete tool. Too bad theres no AI-Roboform plugin! We have to honor the effort of the developers! To make other browsers that usefull, You need up to 30 plugins!"

"MOST COMPLETE TOOL"(?) OPERA-LOVERS ALWAYS KEEP THE BEST FEATURES OF IT AS A TOP SECRET. THEY NEVER MENTION WHAT MAKES IT A "COMPLETE TOOL"...
30 PLUGINS FOR WHAT????

"Highly recommend it to everyone!"
NO SIR, OPERA IS NOT FOR EVERYONE OR AS OTHER MEMBER OF THIS FORUM SAID, OPERA SHOULD BE FOR MARTIRS WHO ARE ABLE TO SUFFER FROM RENDERING PROBLEMS...

"Passed Acid2-Test error-free! Web 2-Standard! We see, how useful this dayly builds where!"

WOW, PASSED THE TEST.. WOW!!! BUT YAHOO MAIL IS NOT PROPERLY SUPPORTED...

"Take me by the word ;-) "

DUE TO YOUR BAD REVIEW MANY USERS WOULD TAKE YOU BY THE B@LLS INSTEAD... ;)

djtf

djtf reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

State-of-the-Art Browser! 1st in using new web-standarts! Most complete tool. Too bad theres no AI-Roboform plugin! We have to honor the effort of the developers! To make other browsers that usefull, You need up to 30 plugins! Highly recommend it to everyone! Passed Acid2-Test error-free! Web 2-Standard! We see, how useful this dayly builds where! Take me by the word ;-)

TC17

TC17 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

I use Firefox also, but do like Opera also. I have not had any page formating problems yet as others have mentioned. Opera seems quicker than Firefox for some reason, when using the back/foward button between pages.

I also like very much how I can hit the cntrl-+ buttons and it makes everything nice and large instead of tiny print.

ninjeratu

ninjeratu reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Good browser, but nothing special. Seriously.
Soon we need to have a bloat warning too. Opera has choosen to add non-browser content and hotfix lots of very specific bugs instead of making a competetive browser from scratch. It's still, more or less, a revamped Opera 5 with some varnish and a fanatic userbase. (mv flames /dev/nil)

ACID2 compliant, which is good if you want to check test pages. In real world browsing Opera is very fast and you don't really care about ACID2. Unfortunately it's sometimes _too_ fast and many pages will not be displayed correctly, even if you change browser ID to IE/Moz (something you have to do a lot since people tend to forget Opera when coding pages). The browser should follow the real world, not try to enforce standards on people that still choose to code for the leading browser, IE. Doesn't matter if we all hate IE, the majority still use it and _will_ use it. Deal with it. If 70% of the browsers use a particular tweak it's a de facto standard, even if W3C would like something else. Period.

Lots of pointless stuff for most people. Most have support for torrents, mail, and so on in other programs. Sometimes when you use Opera 9 you feel like they got all excited about the new stuff they could add and forgot what was important: The browser.
The interface itself is non-standard (as it always has been) and a lot of things other browsers win users from is ignored because it's "not the Opera way of doing things". Plugins, better/more intuitive adblocking, customized installs, etc.

Take it for a spin, it won't hurt you. You might even like it. The "best browser" is a subjective feeling and reading the fan boys getting excited is quite amusing. It might be good enough for your needs, but it's still just a browser with quite a few quirks that many won't like.

EDIT: Forgot. No, it doesn't feel like a Final version. But on the other hand all the Opera versions since 1.0 have more or less just .. evolved. Soon we'll have a new beta out and it'll start over again. They probably just set a number of critical issues that had to be resolved in the Final release and then released it no matter what else people found. Nothing unusual in that.

bggoth

bggoth reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

In my opinion people who know what is Opera, almost definitely know what is Torrent and how to use it. I think for the mass of user the torrent feature is nothing but annoyance that'll have to disable , cause is faaar from perfect.
Widgets cannot justify the bunch of KNOWN regressions and bugs.
They say they want to win new users but I wonder how with the current piece of software...
Too bad for being final, definitely !

cmarchand

cmarchand reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

OPERA SUCKS!!!!
PROGRAMMERS WON'T CHANGE THE WAY THEY CODE JUST BECAUSE OF OPERA'S INCOMPETENCE.
STAY AWAY FROM THIS PIECE OF &^%&^%

josejosefo

josejosefo reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Opera is for those who consider themselves "geeks" (or in this case should they be called "martirs"?)
Many websites don't render properly in Opera, as many other users have stated not even Yahoo mail is properly displayed. Many Google services don't work in it either!

DrJorgeB

DrJorgeB reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

WOW what a terrible "final version". Many pages don't render well and there are guys saying that is because "programmers don't follow the rules" buuuuh, poor Opera...
Firefox is by far a better option!

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

A good browser, as always, but there are a few sites I visit regularly that it still doesn't handle as well as Firefox does. I've never particularly liked its interface either, though that seems to improve slightly with each major version.

kellysint

kellysint reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Final version? it has the same problems as the betas! Yahoo mail is rendered in the middle of the screen all the way to the bottom!
BAD, BAD, BAD !

Dennis87

Dennis87 reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Finnaly=D

This is the broswer no 1!

RoSmecher:
Visual problems on websites is in 99,9% of the times bad code, it's not operas fault that people don't follow web standards!.

lew

lew reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

For my opinion, Opera it was, it is and it will be the best browser!

RoSmecher

RoSmecher reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

good browser, but i agree with most people when they say that this should not have been released as final yet since there are tons and tons and tons and tons of visual problems on many many many many web pages.

capandjudy

capandjudy reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

To say that Opera 9 final is premature is an understatement. This could have definitely used another month in the oven.

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed v9.00 Build 8501 on Jun 20, 2006

Can't be beat. Don't listen to the Firefox fanboys who try to tell you otherwise. They are propably just insecure teens. No, I know they are. Who needs extensions other than insecure teens?

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 20, 2006

Opera 9.0 was released around 6 hours ago ;-)

Probably you will need the newest Flash Player from here: http://fpdownload.macrom...flash_player_9_beta.exe It perfectly works with Opera 9. Problems with flash pages are caused by the old plugin, not Opera itself.

bggoth

bggoth reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 20, 2006

This time Opera gets one big fat LOW ,from a "fanboy", for releasing a product with 100+ bugs in it and naming it "Final"..
that was juuust silly :((

borisT

borisT reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

Based on previous reviews that gave it 5 stars I decided to give it a try. I have to say that it seems to load pages faster than IE or FF, BUT many websites just don't look good!
I'm unable to access my Beta Yahoo Mail account because "Sorry, Yahoo! Mail Beta does not support your browser. You can either download a compatible browser or proceed to the original Yahoo! Mail". IT SUCKS!
Why Opera guys don't go with the mainflow and make it compatible?
Firefox is still the clear winner as with the many Extensions available really accelerates my daily workflow. I'm currently using Joga Companion to have access to the FIFA World Cup information, Gmail manager to automatically check my gmail accounts, FoxyTunes to control Musicmatch, WMP, Winamp, etc directly from FireFox, SiteAdvisor to check if a given website is a spammer/malicious or not, Yahoo Mail notifier to automatically check my Yahoo emails, ReminderFox, FireFTP and other that I use daily and find useful.
Thanks to all of you who rated it FIVE now I almost hate Opera for going against the users! Why to use Opera if something so basic as Yahoo can't be displayed properly?
I thought the bad rates were from people who hated Opera without a reason to. Now I know better.
Stay away from this browser if other option as Firefox is available.

pamseymourl

pamseymourl reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

Hope all the rendering problems will be fixed when the final version is released.
This beta is worth 1 star only.

Jordanr05

Jordanr05 reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

If you install numerous widgets it seems to slow down the rendering engine - sorta defeats the purpose of the WEB BROSWER doesn't it.

Although this browser comes out on top in sheer speed on various browser tests - it still fails the real-life test - too many rendering issues to be my browser of choice.

kellysint

kellysint reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

This thing is driving me crazy! Cannot properly read my emais in Yahoo, cannot hear my radio station in my blog, cannot get flash files to work in many websites as nokia.com, cannot properly display some newspapers websites!!!
I will continue working with Firefox that is the best option nowadays.

josejosefo

josejosefo reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

Look for Metshrine's review on June 19, 2006 for an accurate and well-written review of Opera and stop reading all of these 5 stars rates that only damage Opera's programmers efforts as they tend to hide the weak point's of this software! If you read them please notice that they didn't say anything beyond: "it's super", "it's great", "5 Stars", "WOW", "I love it", "Opera rulezz!" and things like that...

cmarchand

cmarchand reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

I will get down to the level of LURIFAX and co. as not say anything intelligent.

OPERA SUCKS!

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

I dont like this browser, I LOVE it!

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

Best browser by far. This beta is the best yet. Five stars.

JavaJones

JavaJones reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

First I'd like to really commend Metshrine on an extremely well-written and in my opinion very accurate, insightful review. I agree with just about every point he made.

I've been using Opera as my primary browser since they removed the ads something like a year ago and I've really fallen in love with it. To me it embodies the quality of being intelligently designed. Things like the pop-out Start Bar, intelligent tab handling (ex: click a tab a 2nd time and it goes back to the previous one), and especially the advanced history functionality are all vital to my daily browsing habits and are extremely well designed and integrated into the browser. It also has excellent support for saved sessions which is very important to me as well - I haven't lost any browser sessions due to crashes or power outtages since I have used Opera (I used Avant previously and it has this capability too, but FF does not without an extension). All of this is built in and "just works" - as it should be IMO.

All that being said I too am increasingly frustrated by the continuing rendering issues on a more-than-insignificant number of pages. As Metshrine said it really doesn't matter whose "fault" it is, Opera isn't going to get people to just do what they want and if they want to increase their market share they need to provide solutions that "just work". Sometimes it's even Opera's fault and although they're generally good about fixes, they're surprising stubborn about certain things that IMO should be fixed.

Meanwhile, as previously mentioned, they are adding on all these fairly niche, non-browser-centric features like bittorrent and voice. Who cares? Ok, with voice they are helping some handicapped people and that's great. But isn't it simply better for those people to have system-wide voice support? So why is it Opera's job to do this?

Meanwhile FF gets by virtually on the sole merit of its excellent extension system - even a lot of FF fans must agree that without extensions Opera is superior. If Opera allowed extensions it would be a hands-down winner IMO. Voice, bittorrent, etc. could all be added as extensions!

As a power user I am very frustrated by my browser deciding for me that I can't use something because it poses a "security risk". What's worse is that Opera does put a lot of power in the hands of users that could cause much greater security risks - the wand is one (though I find this very convenient and would hate to see it removed or limited). So the security argument is really pretty hollow IMO.

In the end I continue to use Opera for my daily browsing because it truly is a pleasure to use most of the time. The ability to use a program that "just feels right" is very important. But the more pages I see rendering improperly and the more cool FF extensions I hear about the more frustrated I get. I think Opera needs to take a serious look at what its userbase wants and what the greater market would respond to and make a shift for Opera 10.

They should have 2 fundamental goals for Opera 10: 1. Fix rendering issues for 95+% of sites (support this with a sponsored campaign to encourage people to report faulty sites, maybe a "report broken rendering" button in Opera - make it super easy)
2. Create a secure, easy to use, powerful "extensions"/plugin system that equals or surpasses FF's system in terms of ease and speed of development and end user ease of use.

That's all for now.

Sincerely,
A Dedicated Opera User

DrJorgeB

DrJorgeB reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

This beta still fails to properly display many pages I visit daily.

I salute Metshrine's review and this should shut MANY mouths up (hurzx, patel, LURIFAX, jamon, kl00, Daddy_Spank, etc, etc.)

What is being rated here is the beta version and also the funtionality of it in the view of a regular user!

djtf

djtf reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

State-of-the-Art Browser!We all have to honor the efforts of the developers! Imagine how perfect the final will be! I stay tuned! ;-)

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

Patel, starting off your review by insulting people (telling someone to grow up because they dont share your view is an insult) is not going to make your review look any more credible.

You say that a user should not rate it bad because a site doesnt work with it. Tell me, does an end user (NON TECH) care about web standards or whether or not a page is feeding opera different code? No, they only care that their pages work. If a page doesnt work, I think every user has a right to rate it bad because of this. The browser doesnt allow them to do what they want to do, browse that page, and as such points SHOULD be deducted. No piece of software should get a 5/5 just because of its history, but only because of how it performs in its CURRENT STATE.

Tell me, is an average home user going to care about web standards being the reason for their pages not working? NO, the average user is just going to know "My pages dont work in opera, but they do in IE, or in Firefox. Why should I use this if the pages I use dont work in it?"

To TechGuy22

"First off users who complain about web pages not displaying properly should know more about the root causes and what opera is doing to fix them. http://operawatch.com/ne....html?pollresult=1";

As I said above, us tech users (or advanced users) will understand the root of the problem, but the average home user will not. As said on the URL you provided, the main problem seems to be more that opera cannot handle the webpages that are serving the same code regardless of the browser (which I can verify, with various sites I use, is the problem for a majority of sites).

Opera has added widgets in Opera 9 beta which is similar to FF’s extensions. Opera is also the fastest browser available today take a look. http://www.howtocreate.c...wserSpeed.html#winspeed

Wrong, extensions are NOTHING like widgets. Widgets are designed to provide external use of the browser on the desktop, not provide functionality that is missing IN THE BROWSER. An extension does just that "Extends the browsers functionality". A widget allows the user to use the browsers engine to render objects on their desktop that dont require the browser's main window. Please, before you post, learn what exactly you are talking about. If Opera supported "Extensions" or "Addons", something IE and FF have supported since their inception, I believe opera would gain a whole lot more userbase. But, they CHOOSE to remain closed to 3rd parties because of security. As I've said in many past reviews, security is all well and good until it starts to affect functionality. Yes, the browser can do what its programmed to do, but if you are limiting the end user to what is included with the browser and telling them they cant addon to it, I dont forsee many users switching. Most users are content in the way they browse, they dont care that you can type "g searchstring" or use the google search bar to search, they know their google toolbar, they know it works, and they dont want to change (especially a home user). I've run into this many times on PC's I've built for users who have wondered why their favorite addon doesnt work.

Also if you do not think Opera is a great browser took a look at this review.
http://www.softpedia.com...Java-Review-14620.shtml


Why should I care about someone elses review? Please, explain that to me? I dont care if someone else rates a browser highly, if it doesnt do what I want it to, or doesnt work on sites I visit, I will rate it accordingly and for anyone to tell me I am wrong in doing so, obviously is closed minded to any other users opinions (as is the case in most fan boys of all browsers, Firefox, IE and Opera).

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Opera is a browser that shows lots of promise. Aside from the rampant number of pages that cant be displayed (PROPERLY), be it due to being passed different code, or the browser just not rendering the same code appropriately, it does happen and it does happen more than I would like. Aside from that, Opera is a great browser, but its not without its faults.

Opera also fails to support many features that I use on a daily basis in other browsers.

1. Autocomplete. Opera has no way to remember previously typed entries in text fields on various sites. Again, this is due to their stance on security, but I feel this is something that should be included as even the most basic and obscure web browser solutions support this feature.

2. Form Filling. Opera supports form filling but in a very primative and tedious way. Yes, its there, but its nowhere near up to par with what it could be. Proper form filling would require the above auto-complete feature as well, so that the user could fill from previously typed entries. Yes, you can use notes, but who wants to type all of their terms into a note before they actually get to use them?

3. Bookmark Management. Something that, again, can be done in a vast majority of browsers is the ability to delete/edit bookmarks by RIGHT CLICKING THEM IN THE MENU, as opposed to using a separate window to manage them, but not in Opera. While their bookmark manager is nice, I prefer to not have to open a new tab to manage my bookmarks.

4. The wand. This is a feature that sorely needs work. One, you cannot use the wand button until the page completely loads (or you hit the STOP button) without moving to the keyboard to press the key combo.

Opera seems more committed to incorporating features which only a NICHE group of users will use; I.E., Widgets, Torrent support, Voice capability, etc. These are nice features for those that would use them, but I dont think that a majority of users will bother with them or even care about them. Opera seems to not impliment many features several users request (One common one I see is roboform support, which makes up for what the wand and opera lack in form filling/password saving. They do this from a security standpoint, and as I said before, security is good until it interferes with what could be great functionality to the user.

Extensions/Addons are one thing I think Opera sorely needs. They could add a warning that appears each time one is installed warning the user of risks of such extensions, and if they click yes, then that means they understand. Or perhaps, even only allow TRUSTED extensions that have been opera approved. That would show that the extensions meet opera standards of quality. This would attract far more users than any feature they could incorporate into the browser itself.

Now, aside from the faults I've mentioned, I still use opera as my daily browser. It is quite powerful, but nowhere near as powerful as it could be. Opera is also not without its share of security faults, it has had security patches that were needed. Opera has been very good about patching these holes, but that doesnt mean it is immune as several of its users like to believe and try to convince others to believe. I tend to live in the real world where any application can have security problems, and tend to not believe it when a mass group says "Oh, this piece of software makes you more secure". Security is in the eye of the beholder and you are only as secure as you are educated about web security. If an end user clicks yes to everything they see, or browses sites with questionable content and downloads, then it is on that user when they get hit by an exploit, in my opinion. We dont need a browser that tries to take every aspect of any security decision from the user, we need one that works and does what most users want. What these browser companies should do instead is try and educate the end users about web browsing. Then they could focus more on implimenting features the users really want.

Opera has earned its place on my desktop, but I do sorely miss several features that have not been implimented due to a security concern.

Summary:
Opera gets a 3/5 from me. It is far better than firefox, in this users opinion, and loads better than IE, but the faults I've mentioned above prevent me from rating this beta, and any previous beta, what I feel it will one day deserve (5/5). It is faster and lighter than any browser I have used, but that alone doesnt justify a 5/5 from me. Good job for now opera, and I look forward to your future.

To discuss this more, please visit us at http://www.donationcoder...bb/index.php?topic=4075 for a very heated debate about opera, and other browsers as well.

1uk3

1uk3 reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

It's very very good! This is the first build I've tried in quite a while and there have been a lot of improvements.

The only thing that keeps me using Firefox over Opera is Firefox has great extensions.

Opera is faster, prettier and better than Firefox in lots of ways though.

//Final version 9.0 has been released

patel

patel reviewed v9.0 Build 8501 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

Plz grow up guys !

If your yahoo mail cannot open in OPERA, its not the problem with browser, its the coding problem. Their code is not compatible with opera.

For this reason you should not rate it bad...

Its so far the fastest browser i've come across.

Good JOB

Techguy22

Techguy22 reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

First off users who complain about web pages not displaying properly should know more about the root causes and what opera is doing to fix them. http://operawatch.com/ne...ility.html?pollresult=1

Also as Opera gains a larger market share websites will begin to support Opera instead of just IE & FF. http://operawatch.com/ne...s-to-support-opera.html

Opera has added widgets in Opera 9 beta which is similar to FF’s extensions. Opera is also the fastest browser available today take a look. http://www.howtocreate.c...wserSpeed.html#winspeed

Also if you do not think Opera is a great browser took a look at this review.
http://www.softpedia.com...Java-Review-14620.shtml

(By the way I have not had any problems with the Opera 9 weekly builds I am currently using Opera 9.0 Build 8496.)

niknet

niknet reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

I Dont Know May Be Something Wrong But The New Beta Version Cant Load After Installing Im Try It Many Times From Different PC! Crap. v.8 Is Working Smoothly And Have No Problem.5 Star For V.8

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

Opera 9 lastest builds are great! Another good browser.

ACARSOnline

ACARSOnline reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 19, 2006

It has some flaws, but in general, it provides the most pleasurable browsing experience available.

I've put a more detailed review up at http://www.bestfreeapps.com/opera.html, which acknowledges the rendering issues.

robertsmith5000

robertsmith5000 reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 18, 2006

Have just downloaded this beta version and the first website I visited was Yahoo! Mail but the page wasn't properly displayed. If Opera cannot display a well-known page then I won't even think of it as a replacement for Internet Explorer or even Firefox that is the best browser around.
A rate of 5 is misleading new users like me. Please think a moment: if you find many many reviewers that give this version a 5 then what new user should expect?
You are doing no good to this software rating it beyond what it deserves.

cmarchand

cmarchand reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 18, 2006

Why rate 5 to a browser that doesn't render webpages properly?
Seems that Opera users don't have brain hehehe
Are you a bunch of i*iots or what?
Rating it 3 or 4 would be fair!

AND THIS IS FOR YOU LURIFAX AS IT SEEMS YOU LOVE CAPS!!!!!

AND I RATE 1 JUST BECAUSE YOU OPERA-INCONDITIONALS ARE SO DISGUSTING AND LIERS BECAUSE OPERA DOESN'T DESERVES A 5. YET.

jamon

jamon reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 18, 2006

OK... Firefox is better?!! ;))))

But! Opera is much better! =))))))

OPERA RULEZZ! my choice from version v4.0

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 18, 2006

I'm rating this a five because Opera is the best browser (betas included) and to piss off DrJorgeB a little more. We want more caps lock, Jorge!

DrJorgeB

DrJorgeB reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 18, 2006

I have nothing against Opera. Have used it for some weeks and found it to be an a little-less than acceptable performer. OK, probably we should blame those programmers who prefer to comply with IE and FF and not with the poor Opera...
And why Opera doesn't make the move to comply with but is common programming practicing nowadays? Right now Yahoo Mail is not rendering well among other major page-drawing problems. And I'm not using the beta version!
Now I agree with one of the guys who said that if people rate Opera 1 to 3 is because they are experiencing some kind of problmes with it.

HOW DO YOU THINK OPERA WILL IMPROVE WITH YOU GUYS WHO RATE IT 5 ALL THE TIME????

HOW WILL IT IMPROVE WITH PEOPLE WHO HIDE THE ERRORS AND PROBLEMS IT HAS????

AND FINALLY, DON'T YOU REALIZE THAT WHAT PEOPLE IS RATING HERE IS THE B E T A VERSION, NOT THE FINAL 8 VERSION THAT PERFORMS A LITTLE BETTER???

BETA IS SUPPOSED TO BE -SOMETIMES- FULL OF ERROR AND MISTAKES AND GIVING IT 5 DOESN'T MAKE YOUR FAVORITE PRODUCT ANY GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!

IF YOU RATE IT 5, THEN YOU MEAN THAT IT SHOULD BE THE FINAL VERSION RIGHT???? IF YOU THINK IT DESERVES A FULL 5 THEN ASK THE OPERA PROGRAMMERS TO STOP NOW AND RELEASE THE OFFICIAL 9 VERSION TODAY!

I'm rating it 2 because of Yahoo, Blogger (posting) and pages featuring RadioBlog problems I have when using Opera 9 BETA VERSION. And these are websites/features that should be rendering/performing OK in any browser...

kl00

kl00 reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 17, 2006

"FYI guys, if some people here rate it 2 or 3 because problems with some Beta version if because that specific version deserves it!"

Actually, I find that Opera users (and developers) are a little more up-front about the limitations and shortcomings of Opera than Mozilla fans are about their preferred products. Mozilla seems to have become some sort of infallible religion-substitute for a lot of people, and I'm sure that at some point there will be an extension (a word I'm really getting tired of) that will blow my nose, tie my shoes and make my coffee. But it will probably conflict with Adblock ;)

And to those who whine all the time about page rendering, why not do a little whining to web authors who throw up pages written in half-a** code just because IE and Fx will accept it? Someone wrote earlier that their personal list of sites that don't render properly in Opera is now up to 75. How about some links? Post them here or in the Opera forums. We'd love to test them out as well.

MB for MB, Opera is simply one of the most excellently-coded apps you will find. Fx and Thunderbird are simply too bloated and resource-hungry, and Fx developers STILL haven't figured out how to make a browser that handles tabs well.

The Opera 9 betas have all been very stable for me. ZERO crashes.

guti

guti reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 17, 2006

Best browser.
Version 9, is quite stable. Testing it since TP.
Hoping to the team will be able to release a x64 version soon.

josejosefo

josejosefo reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 17, 2006

FYI guys, if some people here rate it 2 or 3 because problems with some Beta version if because that specific version deserves it! I don't understand why some of you ("Opera lovers") cannot stand it. Why in the world could someone rate 5 to a Beta version that fails to complain with what it's supposed to do!!!

And as I stated in my previous post, I am a registered Opera user because I liked it a lot. I've never used Opera 100% of the time because as we all know, many sites don't render well in it yet. Now I find myself using Firefox 80% of the time because of the many extensions -that accelerates my daily work- that don't exist in Opera yet.

The Seeker 11

The Seeker 11 reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 17, 2006

@nms04 - It certainly looks that way

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 17, 2006

agree with Daddy_Spank!

Love this browser!! ;)

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 17, 2006

I can only agree with previous reviews. If you're not skilled enough to correctly install Opera or not prepared to accept a Beta stage, Betanews is not for you.
Now, except build 8490, all recent build worked great for me. I felt real improvments since b8482 and this one gave me no issues so far. All together it's much better than a couple of weeks ago. I don't have particular difficulties with sites : all the ones I visit are rendered properly. So, no negatives. Really a good work.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 17, 2006

im kinda tired of reading of people complaining that "opera screwed up some settings" or that it "erased previous version" and give it a 3 because of that. The reason is in 99% of the case the users incapabilities to deal with it. After all, Beta and TP's are not for everyone and if you complain that settings got changed after re installing a fresh build, please stay away from trying it out.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 17, 2006

wow how fast r they working? a new build with fixes every day :D does someone know if they r gonna release final on the 20th? from what i can remember someone here wrote something like that on a review :-/

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 16, 2006

Agreed. Don't play in Beta land if you're not prepared to deal with a problem here and there.

New_G_age

New_G_age reviewed v9.0 Build 8496 Beta on Jun 16, 2006

Wow, another build :) This is great. No Issue for me here.

mharvey

mharvey reviewed v9.0 Build 8493 Beta on Jun 16, 2006

(midnighter_9999) If you are tired of downloading the latest every few days then maybe you should just stick with the released version or the official beta releases and stay away from the weekly (sometimes daily) incremental builds.

Opera is making some serious progress and is still my favorite browser but these builds are not for everyone.

Master-

Master- reviewed v9.0 Build 8493 Beta on Jun 16, 2006

This new Opera screwed up som settings.

midnighter_9999

midnighter_9999 reviewed v9.0 Build 8493 Beta on Jun 16, 2006

Opera for Windows 9.0 Build 8500 Beta ------ I'll download this!!!!

benyahuda

benyahuda reviewed v9.0 Build 8493 Beta on Jun 16, 2006

I have had a better user experience with Opera Betas than with most other browser finals.

ZombieREA, you do not need to install every beta released. Opera made a decent choice to make weekly releases easily available. This is for those who want them. If you don't, then just ignore the weeklies. Maybe put yourself on a once a month or bi-monthly schedule. Then there will be more changes for you to play with. Otherwise please don't comment and rate as that type of comment really is rather useless.

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v9.0 Build 8493 Beta on Jun 15, 2006

Oh Opera is a bittersweet browser indeed. They always seem ahead of every other competitor in features yet everytime I use Opera I come away a little disappointed. It doesn't work with enough websites, and it's just awkward. It's a quick little 'open, nab something non Microsoft, Google, Yahoo' and go.

I don't blame Opera for the lack of browser support, but nomatter what it certaintly doesn't help my experience with it.

ZombieREA

ZombieREA reviewed v9.0 Build 8493 Beta on Jun 15, 2006

With me Opera is a browser that i cant use computer w/o it. But.. Look like 2 much beta version release in short time.
...Not really gud ! Why they dunt stop release 2 many beta version until they have something, some big thing changed in next release!

PS: Sorry about my poor English

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.0 Build 8493 Beta on Jun 15, 2006

Works perfectly so far.

@josejosefo : you just can't downgrading a soft only because you're not PC litterate enough to be able to properly run your PC. Blogger runs fine here. So clean your system, install Opera ( and other progs) properly, use it for a while and then only your comments will add value to other.

josejosefo

josejosefo reviewed v9.0 Build 8493 Beta on Jun 15, 2006

For hurzx: I can't help but laugh at your words... You seem to be an Opera big fan but as other guy stated here, Opera is not fully supported by many sites and this lead us to look for other alternatives or stop us from using Opera as our main browser or consider using it 100% of the time. (To be fair, Firefox is not a 100% solution yet).
And just FYI, I am a registered Opera user since 2003. And this is something that a few people can say.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.0 Build 8490 Beta on Jun 15, 2006

I can't remember a crash in Opera since I started testing the weeklies several weeks ago. This build seems as stable as ever (so far!).

FataL

FataL reviewed v9.0 Build 8490 Beta on Jun 15, 2006

Pretty good and stable weekly in comparison to last 3... ;)

Perth, Australia

Perth, Australia reviewed v9.0 Build 8490 Beta on Jun 15, 2006

agree with ya nant... i think its great that opera releases minor fixes for users to test and report.

if you don't wish to test and want a stable version then wait for the final release.

opera sh!ts over firefox and ie
http://my.opera.com/Twilo/picture.pl

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.0 Build 8490 Beta on Jun 15, 2006

WTF are you whining? So don't download and wait for the Final release!

midnighter_9999

midnighter_9999 reviewed v9.0 Build 8490 Beta on Jun 15, 2006

when will the last beta be coming out?????? its anoying to dload a new opera every 4 or 5 day!!!!

Richardky

Richardky reviewed v9.0 Build 8490 Beta on Jun 14, 2006

its heading in the right direction -

widgets havnt worked in the last three versions for me and still many pages wont disply enough to even be viewable ... love the options layout and skins for it..

i wouldnt use it as my default browser as of yet but like where its going looking forward to the finished version.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.0 Build 8490 Beta on Jun 14, 2006

Cant wait for this to get out of beta. I love Opera. End of story.

josejosefo

josejosefo reviewed v9.0 Build 8482 Beta on Jun 14, 2006

I'm having problems with tabbing. Whenever I click on the "New Tab" button nothing happens, and when I right-click and choose "Open in background tab" it load in the same tab!

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.0 Build 8482 Beta on Jun 13, 2006

Good. They've gone back to the "Opera Beta" default installation path. (See my message of a couple of days ago.)

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.0 Build 8482 Beta on Jun 12, 2006

- Please "altern8energy"! you can change that behaviour under Tools/Preferences/Advanced/Reuse current tab!!! din't you even try to sort it out?

- also "nant", you can just middle-click!

and yes, the browser is... we all know.

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.0 Build 8482 Beta on Jun 12, 2006

Huh? That is expected behaviour...

Right-click the link and choose either Open or Open in a background tab.
Makes perfect sense IMO.

5/5 as always.

altern8energy

altern8energy reviewed v9.0 Build 8482 Beta on Jun 12, 2006

for some reason the Tabbed browsing is messed up. It should work like Avant or Maxthon browsing. when searching or clicking on a link from history, it won't create a new tab. It will reuse the current tab you are looking at. This has been the reason I've not switched to Opera.. Little annoying things that don't work, yet lesser browsers seem to get them right..

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 12, 2006

Opera is faster than Bugatti Veyron :-)

Opera 9.0 build 8482

Last build had a few very annoying issues, so we decided to give you an early update. Searches now work again and the error console shouldn't pop up every 20 seconds or so ;)

Known issues

Old RSS Icon.

We're sure you'll find some more. ;)

Changelog

Searches are fixed.

No crash when rightclicking in personalbar.

Error console not always appearing.

Lots of stability fixes.

Regarding the old RSS icon: Mozilla would like us (and other users of it) to sign an agreement on the use of the feeds icon. We fully respect their rights to the icon and will not use it as long as this isn't sorted out.

Download link: http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o90w_8482m.exe

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 12, 2006

For some reason the default install path in 8473 is ~Program Files\Opera\ instead of ~Program Files\ Opera Beta\. You may want to update your config files if you've been using betas for some time, or change the installation path.

princeofpentacles

princeofpentacles reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 11, 2006

Works cool for me :)

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 10, 2006

I went back to 8414 because the last 2 builds are EXTREMELY SLOW to respond when a link is clicked. And still no RTF copy/paste.

9i08

9i08 reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 10, 2006

Still using Opera as my primary browser. I prefer Firefox in some aspects because the cookie management is so simple and on-the-fly, really takes no intuition to use. However with Opera it seems more configurable, but ultimately slows the process down, flicking though tabs just to set site preferences, they should be listed in the same area, that way you could use the point-and-click approach like in Firefox and IE. However...u can't have everything I suppose, but you can have a lot, which is why I like Opera

Imagine if you could import a list of cookies like in Adblock for Mozilla, now that would be cool and time saving cookie management.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 10, 2006

Best of the best.

P.S. Gmail works fine here.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 10, 2006

have to agree crowbar82 :) one of the best pieces of software 've ever seen! fortunately they've released their browser for free, it sucked to look at the banner ads in opera 6, 7 and 8 :) > haha

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 10, 2006

Love this browser!

djtf

djtf reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 10, 2006

Very stable, could become "Beta 3" status! Best browser, milestone by far! State-of-the-Art! Still displays AIM-Mail ´n Gmail wrong! Otherwise ist would be a 5-rating! Keep ahead!

Yogurth

Yogurth reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 10, 2006

Here is the changelog:

Middleclick features (Paste'n'Go and Panning) are fixed.
Opening standalone files that require plugins are fixed.
opera: and mailto: links now work again.
Animated gif images no longer speed up! (Wheeee!!)
Added support for DOM level 2 Style Sheets and associated parts of DOM level 2 CSS. (Yay!!)
Improved handling of offsetTop, offsetLeft and offsetParent.
When enabling the status bar, link and form tooltips will not show the URL address anymore, and will display the content of the title attribute without the "Title: " prefix.
Multiple stability fixes.
IMAP fixes.
several NTLM fixes.

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Quite a few fixes this time around, and this build is quite solid apart from broken search boxes(mind that inline search works normally, even with custom engines)

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 9, 2006

Mhmm, they classify adding images to the installer a beta build, that's all for this one.

Nevertheless, love this browser, love the security, however, the real rendering issues are Opera developers faults for not making an adaptive and flexible rendering engine like Gecko has become. Also the obsessive compulsive caching they implemented leads to what some mistake for a rendering problem.

Sure, Opera makes standards such as CSS fster than Mozilla does, but it doesn't justify the rest of the rendering problems?

Why should web developers have to waste time coding browser recognition for an Opera-only page when the real rendering fault is with Opera? Why can't Opera comprehend code as well as gecko, simply speaking? The fault is with Opera developers, though they've been pretty caught up in security, which is honorable.

grisla

grisla reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 9, 2006

Amrit. Just hold down the right button and operate the scroll wheel to pick your tab from those displayed on the page. No need to put down your beer :)

Very classy browser that is improving with every build. I have never had any serious rendering problems although there are occasions when a 'fit to width' (Ctrl-F11) command is needed to get an error ridden page to display properly

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 9, 2006

Love this browser!

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 9, 2006

Amrit, CTRL+TAB works just fine in opera 9.

Amrit

Amrit reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 9, 2006

@ Metshrine
The good live is having both legs on the bureau, a bottle of beer in the left hand and the mouse in the right hand and the headphones on my head. Which leaves me short of one hand to reach for the keyboard.

And before people start protesting, I have been pointed out other possibilities before, but placing the mouse cursor on the Tab-bar and then using the scrollwheel to scroll through the different tabs is so terribly obvious, I'm actually very surprised it's not a basic function. Why make things more complicated then they have to?
So, as a wise ma .. creature once said: "Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try".

Do!

pea

pea reviewed v9.0 Build 8473 Beta on Jun 9, 2006

Opera simply follows standards. If pages don't look right then it's their fault for not using standard code. This release has a few useless features such as widgets. Who needs an analogue clock when you have a clock on the task bar? They have made the history recording thing better to manage though

ciwir

ciwir reviewed v9.0 Build 8460 Beta on Jun 8, 2006

Best browser on earth

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.0 Build 8460 Beta on Jun 8, 2006

The new versions changes www.digg.com\'s text appearance AND b0rks www.dealsea.com

Why opera can't render standard frikken pages has escaped me.

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.0 Build 8460 Beta on Jun 7, 2006

no punkesito, i know which are just "weekly problems" and which are plain ETERNAL.
maybe when my heart heals, ill go up to a 4 with the rating.

lol ;)

- hey, pssst, Techguy22... where did you get that info that Opera will be final on the 20th of June?

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.0 Build 8460 Beta on Jun 7, 2006

Simply the best.

Techguy22

Techguy22 reviewed v9.0 Build 8460 Beta on Jun 7, 2006

Opera is the fastest browser I have ever used and the most secure if you do not believe me check out this site http://secunia.com/product/4932/

(By the way Opera 9 will be released June 20th. You can read more about it here at http://operawatch.com/ne...aunch-on-june-20th.html)

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v9.0 Build 8460 Beta on Jun 7, 2006

Opera blir bare bedre og bedre, og nå er den i Norsk språkdrakt også.
Meget bra, kan anbefales til alle som vil ha noe bedre en IE.
Opera har oså en bra e-post som jeg bruker og er svært fornøyd med.
Så prøv du også.

Terumo

sham69

sham69 reviewed v9.0 Build 8460 Beta on Jun 7, 2006

this build is not as good as the previous one (build 8432)

for example, take a look at the following page:
http://www.undertexter.se/?p=senasterls

It appears all empty in Opera 9.0 build 8460...

But I'll still rate it a 5, because opera rules, and always will (btw does anybody have a release date for Opera 9.0???)

punkesito

punkesito reviewed v9.0 Build 8460 Beta on Jun 7, 2006

the artist, this version is weekly version, so has the problems, try with beta 2 version(has problems but less)

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.0 Build 8460 Beta on Jun 7, 2006

The rendering faults are not with web-developers and the code; the problem is with the rendering engine itself Why should web developers have to develop a browser recognition for Opera itself when the fault is when Opera cannot meet code standards as well as Firefox?

Ok then, I was wrong about the standards;Opera has always been ahead in CSS standards, but if Opera can't have adaptive rendering as such like Firefox or IE, it's Opera's fault for not perfecting the engine. Since the last release rendering has vastly improved. Other faults are exaggerated caching Opera has implemented which can cause issues which is commonly referred to as rendering issues, but is a caching issue that can simply be resolved by auto-refreshing java scripts.

This delivers great quality browsing, skinning, widgets, fast rendering, security; and all using far less memory than the gecko engine browsers!

They can run Opera on a DS, Minimo Mozilla comes nowhere close.

P.S. zridling, you're wrong; IE will remain the most used because it's what's included with Windows; most people don't know of anything else or are just too lazy to install an alternative, or are corporations with I.T. management on Microsoft payroll.

My school forces Internet Explorer, I use Opera and Firefox. You say IE doesn't have any "unfriendly code"? How about the numerous crashes and buffer overflows on IE6? I've experienced none with Opera, your claim is false.

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.0 Build 8460 Beta on Jun 7, 2006

Most of the sites I visit with Opera are either perfect or better than Firefox, but the source of the artist's frustration lies in Opera's adherence to standards. They're already supporting CSS3 when no one else is even thinking about it. The reason IE6/7 will remain king of all browsers is because it is so forgiving of bad code. So you could say that Opera is simply ahead of its time for now.

siryak

siryak reviewed v9.0 Build 8460 Beta on Jun 7, 2006

Great program and this build appears to have fixed the problem with the xbox.com forums not being able to click the page 1,2,3 buttons.

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 5, 2006

Can't believe i'll say this, cause i've been using this browser for years and i love it but, from now on i won't rate it higher than 3 because there are WAY TOO MANY problems with pages that aint correctly rendered. I just cant browse the web with it!!!

Opera is a GREAT GREAT PROGRAM with a BAD BAD rendering engine.

To the developers: F**k the rules of the right thing to be done with your engine, just make it wooork! I guess you can't use it as your main browser too! Somehow it may be as perfect as to pass the Acid2 test, but despite that, it doesn't work with common pages. I guess i'll have to stick to Firefox...

Hope that they change their philosophy for Opera 10.

krgood

krgood reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 5, 2006

Great browser, it has some great features i really enjoy. However, Betanews.com will not load now. It was loading in the previous release but now, it just sits there saying "waiting for betanews" and never retruns. IE works fine...loads the site right up with no delay...looks like some more testing is needed??

bluemonq

bluemonq reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 5, 2006

yanike - don't know what you're talking about; at least on the two pages you mentioned, opera renders things fine.

amavida - you might want to try the "mask as ie"/"mask as firefox" options under the site-specific preferences. it's not opera's fault if the site uses a broken way of identifying browsers. *cough*washingtonmutual*cough*

amavida

amavida reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 4, 2006

I agree with yanike, they have had _YEARS_ to get page rendering up to the same standard as IE/FF but _STILL_ I cannot see my bank & some other web sites properly!!!

Has lots of features but seems destined to be an also ran.

In the case of FF you can add an extension that alows rendering a tab with the IE engine _WITHIN_ FF. Wow! what a great convenience!!

Try that with Opera?

yanike

yanike reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 4, 2006

Great Browser! Page support still sucks badly. Has anyone else experienced opera crashing on Yahoo!'s new homepage & mail and checkout AOL.com and some other mainsites. When will Opera fix the IE and firefox engines. It's always been messed up! I will always rank this browser a 3 for now on until it's fixed.

princeofpentacles

princeofpentacles reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 4, 2006

Lol @ Zankur...I guess you are right and Opera rules, right !

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 4, 2006

this is the best browser ever...firefox(opera wannabe) will be able to assemble all opera features hopefully by 2010 or something,considering its development schedule...

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 4, 2006

Best browser ever.

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 3, 2006

Good browser, but still no RTF copy/paste like all other browsers have.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 3, 2006

Until now, this build seems to work much better than previous ones. Even faster, rendering much better, smoother... it sounds excellent to me. Brillant shot. The only negative I noticed is a higher ressource comsumption. So far, so good, especially for a beta !

crowley

crowley reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 3, 2006

This new Beta release of Opera will not work with my Leechget downloader at all; all I get is a scripting error. I Had to revert to 8432 Beta to get it back to where it was. Hope the next Beta will function as well as all the others have so far. Keep up the good work on my favorite browser--the best browser in my opinion!

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 3, 2006

why does it have to be a resource hog???

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 3, 2006

I strongly advice downloading this http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/opera_8455_m.exe installation file. It is multilanguage (14 languages), however, the installer is considerably bigger. This linked by BetaNews contains only the English language version of the browser.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 3, 2006

hahahahaha i give it a 5!! this is the 1st release where i got the widgets to work!!! well done opera, keep up the good work!!!!

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 2, 2006

The rendering faults are not with web-developers and the code; the problem is with the rendering engine itself Why should web developers have to develop a browser recognition for Opera itself when the fault is when Opera cannot meet code standards as well as Firefox?

I see Opera is finally dealing with it. This delivers great quality browsing, skinning, widgets, fast rendering, security; and all using far less memory than the gecko engine browsers!

They can run Opera on a DS, minimo mozilla comes nowhere close.

RoSmecher

RoSmecher reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 2, 2006

would be great browser, if pages load properly. it's a lot of pages that don't load properly too, not just one or too.

Richardky

Richardky reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 2, 2006

i like the skins and the speed of it ..but the past two betas i havnt been able to use any widgets the browser crashes every time..and 6 out of 10 pages on most forums i go to do not display correctly

it has some nice options .. and since its still in beta bug it deserves a easy 4.. it is useable and i even like it ..

but the problems it has for now i would never use it as my default browser ..

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.0 Build 8455 Beta on Jun 2, 2006

@@@@@@@ URGENT WARNING @@@@@@@@
DO NOT INSTALL THIS VERSION

digg.com's text are altered and the navigation toolbars are rendered useless! God dammit...now I have to go back to the previous version somehow

Photoyoda

Photoyoda reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on Jun 2, 2006

I still have problems with www.piv.no . Nearly impossible to navigate furhter because the navigation buttons are packed together as a snowball. I really hope opera can do something about this. The domain belongs to my employer. Firefox has no problems with www.piv.no .

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on Jun 1, 2006

The best Opera beta so far. You can easily block ads and flash by right clicking on a page and choosing 'Block content'. The reason for only 4 stars is Opera's lack of ability to copy/paste RTF content. All other major browsers do this, when will Opera?

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on Jun 1, 2006

No Adblock. No access to GMail Calendar... hum!
Not to mention difficulties with accessing many websites.

ppinheiro

ppinheiro reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 28, 2006

Great ( the Best? ) browser, but not Roboform Support?? why is that ?
I will not stop using roboform cuz of Opera

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 28, 2006

For me it's the best browser a specially if you're using mail client build in.

OHHH Forget about Outlook express Try Opera with M2

pvolk

pvolk reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

issueswith groupwise webaccess and secure webpages loading. dont get this build

philosopher_dog

philosopher_dog reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

Good browser, but it still lacks support for Roboform. There's really no excuse.

bggoth

bggoth reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

Can't see why someone would give it less than 5, considering that's Alpha... for comparison I installed Bon Echo Alcha 3 (cause I use Firefox also) and it crashes every like 4 min, it's disstessing the least...
:) I like them both but Opera a litsi - bitsy better ;)

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

ZEE best! :|

Babylon2x

Babylon2x reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

I love Opera. But for some reason I still don't use it as much as Firefox. I think I'm just not as keen on the interface for some reason.

It is a great browser though, easily on of the tops and it also renders the ACID2 test correctly unlike certain other highly promoted browsers.

We need more of this in an effort to get a single standard with web technologies.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

Still the best and getting better.

9i08

9i08 reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

Better still, why the **** are you rating without reviewing the software

Here, make room for me!
ps. i hate Opera, but i'll give it five stars, should get the fanboys diapers all s***-t-y

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

Why do these people talk about "going back to Firefox"? It's a beta, for Chrissake!

Budgie29

Budgie29 reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

use to be stable 2 builds back but now its Just crashes and takes ages to load a page

I have also gone back to using Firefox

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

finalcut, spellchecking works when you install Aspell dictionaries. More about it here: http://www.opera.com/sup...orials/opera/spellcheck

finalcut

finalcut reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

I switched back to firefox a couple of weeks ago because Opera cannot copy paste a text keeping the layout and paste it somewhere :(

And also I love having the spell check feature built in firefox that I'm using right now because english isn't my primary language!

Stadi

Stadi reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

Opera looks promising, but it's still far-far away from IE7+Maxthon. In IE7 ClearType is turned on without turning it on for the whole system and this way Maxthon uses it as well. This one feature keeps me from using other browsers the most. Another feature I like in Maxthon is links drag&drop, I simply drag&drop a link and it opens in a new tab, I don't have to move my finger away from the left mouse button, it's much fasteer this way.

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

improvelence drop dead
press shift + F12 and and chose over 5000 skins and plugins

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

Still slow, sill ugly, low compatibility, still supported by a bunch of whiney a** mofos.

Leave it for the garbage pile.

Ferahgo

Ferahgo reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

Changelog:
* Several IMAP fixes.
* Several Cookie fixes.
* Cookie site preferences now override general preferences.
* Fix for a situation where setting Cookies froze Opera.
* widget.setPreferenceForKey for Widgets now works.
* XHTML mobile profile rendering is fixed - fixes for example http://www.google.com/xhtml/
* Fix for missing marker on floated list items.
* Doubleclick to select words now doesn't select punctuation.
* Opening images in mail by rightclicking image now works.
* Several content blocker fixes.
* Better visual feedback in UI for changes that depend on each other.
* Temporary download directory used for opening files in external applications can now be modified in opera:config.

UNIX specific:
* Now using operapluginwrapper to detect plug-ins.
* Fixed several crashers related to multiple concurrent login dialogs.
* Java now not doesn't grab all keyboard input.

Known issue
*Pages that cause XML parsing errors may cause Opera to crash
*Line-height issue with some characters(affects japanese, Korean etc)

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@coover: Take a look into preferences page and then upgrade to 5 stars. It's on the very first page of the options that you can choose how you want to start. Far more options than IE. Just open the tabs you like, save them as a session (File->Sessions->Save this session) and then choose "Continue saved sessions" in preferences.

coover

coover reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 27, 2006

Daddy_Spank: Opera is a very good browser and I use it frequently ... but IE 7 Beta 2 is also very good. And regardless of the size of the two browsers, IE 7 Beta 2 is much faster than Opera 9.0. In fact, I seem to find myself using IE 7 Beta 2 more often these days. The biggest reason is because IE 7 Beta 2 will open more than 1 "home" page automatically when the browser is opened (The Avant and Orca Browsers also have this feature). I realize that Opera will open all the pages that were open when the browser was previously closed, but, generally, when I close the browser, the 4 pages I like opened when I open a browser are not tabbed at the time. Opera has a definite disadvantage to IE 7 in this particular feature, and I recommend that the Opera Programmers add it to their browser.

Joe Dirt

Joe Dirt reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 26, 2006

Change log please!

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.0 Build 8432 Beta on May 26, 2006

Well, right now I cant even get IE7 b2 to open plus im getting frequent bsod's after uninstalling it so... for me, the IE kinda sux :)

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 25, 2006

At least he voted 5 stars :)

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 25, 2006

This version is quite stable and robust. The only gripe I have is during the installation process. Even when choosing the upgrade option which keeps your existing settings, this beta did not keep them, causing me to completely reconstruct my personal settings, toolbars, buttons, etc.

Brian49

Brian49 reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2006

Pretty good on the whole, but I'm sticking with v.8.54 until and unless v.9 works with my online banking website. There seem to have been some changes to the way Opera handles secure sites which have had this detrimental effect from my point of view.

statm1

statm1 reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2006

Yes thanks for mentioning that 8314 is beta 2. I wont need to download it again then.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2006

Thanks for that, nant`!

I was just about to download the file. I've already got build 8414 as a weekly, so I won't bother.

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2006

Now the Opera are after the beta release, more fixes will be continued to be added to Opera.

There is still time for changes. Lets all look forward for the next weekly, it is rumored to have a lot of fixes.

For users of the weeklies, build 8414 was released as beta2.

manni

manni reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2006

It works well, even the image rendering is now fixed!

netean

netean reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2006

not noticed any significant difference in beta 2 to beta 1.. Widgets are still rather pointless (IMO).

NOt experienced ANY rendering problems at all with beta 1 or beta2. (still doesn't work with google calendar though)

Beta 2, like beta 1 has never crashed on me, and worked well. I've got 10 tabs open, (several with flash in them) and memory used is 2192Mb. Fantastic, esp compared to firefox (which I also love, but it loves my RAM wayyy too much)

Ward574

Ward574 reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2006

Note how many of those claiming Opera has significant rendering problems never actually post any links. Really helpful.

If they did, they'd get fixed. Until then, ignore 'em.

eaves

eaves reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2006

Still a long way to go before this software is beta-quality. Just putting the name "beta" on a release does not make it beta-quality.

Significant browsing features are missing or non-functional, e.g., most of the enhanced cookie processing features.

Many, many sites still have significant rendering problems, even when Opera identifies itself as IE. (links in question have been sent to Opera support, no sense posting them here.)

This is alpha-level software, at best.

baki_princ

baki_princ reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2006

I don`t know what`s is the diffrence compare to the beta 1. In "about" it also says:Version
9.00 Beta Build 8414 just like previous version. Anyway I adore Opera although beta 9 keep crashing and crashing and crashing....There is a lot steel to work on this browser (like download menager) so keep up guys good work. Opera is the best!

Dennis87

Dennis87 reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2006

This browser rocks=D
I hope it's not long time again before they release final version

stihler

stihler reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 22, 2006

My opera flash problem went away when I installed Macromedia Flash Player for Windows (Firefox & Opera) 9.0.0.296 Beta.

Photoyoda

Photoyoda reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 22, 2006

I`ve been using Opera since 4.0. The program has never been able to get this web page right: www.piv.no which is the official web page of a major psychiatric hospital in Norway. The scroll bars under the main heading are put on one place, in stead of in a row. Why Opera? Why? The Opera9beta does not handle this page either.

debugged

debugged reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 21, 2006

The problem that I had with Flash was cleared up by doing a clean install with a new profile. I would recommend that others who have had these Flash problems do the same. Opera 9 gets a 5 star rating from me.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 21, 2006

An interesting brief comparison is here: http://reviews.cnet.com/...2217-1.html?tag=fea_txt

IE7 b2 FF2a1 O9b1
Built-in tabs Yes Yes Yes
Saved tabs Yes No Yes
Tab mini preview No No Yes
Side panel Yes Yes Yes
Search history Yes Yes Yes
Integrated RSS Yes Yes Yes
Widgets No No Yes
BitTorrent No No Yes
Antiphishing Yes No No
Page zoom Yes No Yes

Of course everything out of the box. FF has extensions but Opera has M2 and more.

JaapB

JaapB reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 20, 2006

Perfect browser, very fast and relative small. The only problem is that google calender doesn't support Opera. But, that has something to do with Google and not with Opera. I tried that Jeep site that was mentioned by Sammo. I don't know what he is talking about, that site works beautifully. So Sammo, you have to change your rating.

Qlib

Qlib reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 20, 2006

simply exellent in every way.. smaller than firefox.. faster than firefox.. more stable than firefox.. better than firefox..etc.... IE .. dont even go there!.. Opera 9 has also passed some of the hardest tests in rendering html code correctly.. if authors cant wrote html.. tough!

As far as its visual appearance.. I totally agree that the default view of Opera is.. butt ugly.. thats the beauty of skins and the EXTREMENESS as to wich opera's gui can be skinned and altered..

it doesnt get better than this!

kl00

kl00 reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 19, 2006

Although I'm a big fan of most open-source products,I've totally jumped ship from Firefox to Opera. I am SICK of the crashes, memory issues etc with Firefox, not to mention its bloated "cousin", Thunderbird. With Opera I have everything I need in one excellently-coded package. Which brings me to some of the comments made by improvelence below:

>Slow in comparison to Firefox, IE6 and 7, Mozilla, Seamonkey...ugly.

Hmmm...well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess; I've always thought Opera looks pretty elegant, comparatively. And among the browsers I've tried (and I've tried quite a few), only Maxthon on Windows is faster. And you're saying that SeaMonkey, of all things, is prettier? Puhleeez.

>This browser looks like it came off of Windows 95. The buttons are goofy and the tabs are way too big.

Again, subjective...although doing a visual measurement, Opera's tabs look, if not smaller, at least no bigger than those of Firefox in its default theme.

> Major problems rendering websites...

And a lot of web authors have major problems writing valid code. In my experience, if a page carries a DTD and passes validation, Opera will render it beautifully.

>low user base.

Hmmm...the last I checked, IE was still number one in terms of user base, and so I guess that might mean that the size of the user base has really no relation to the quality of the browser. And anyway, Firefox's user base is still dwarfed by that of IE, so I guess Fx's userbase might be described as "low" as well.

> Waste of time.

I've become convinced that Firefox 1.5.x has become a waste of time, a major step back from Fx 1.0.

As for Flash, I turn that crap off anyway. It's a blight ;)

stopbuggingme

stopbuggingme reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 19, 2006

Same old crap. Will not run flash stuff on many pages. When is Opera going to address this issue?

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 19, 2006

I love Opera, but none of the beta 9 versions will work fully on all Flash sites (I have the latest Flash 9). I don't like most Flash ads and will block them, but there are many sites that you can not navagate thru without Flash (ex: http//www.jeep.com). If Opera gets 9 to run Flash correctly I would give it 5 stars.

RawGutts

RawGutts reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 19, 2006

a 3 for having to install beta's? You tool; go crawl back in a hole.

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 19, 2006

gbp007

And thats why you give it 3pts? Dont use BETA then

gbp007

gbp007 reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 19, 2006

So when will opera 9 final version be out ? All this opera betas every 3 days is kind of tiring having to install !

teseglet

teseglet reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 18, 2006

I have been an avid Firefox user for 1 1/2 years however I have an older computer and found Firefox slower than touted. Most recently my Firefox version 1.5 would not launch but I could get 1.0.X to launch as well as their Beta 2.0. I can't figure it out.

These problems led me to try Opera 9 beta 2. Wow am I impressed. It is much quicker and seems to have a much more refined feel than FF. I can't say enough good things about it.

womfalcs7

womfalcs7 reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 18, 2006

"Memory leaks" in Firefox (Most of the time they're not but I won't get into that) aren't a problem if you have a good amount of memory. Especially if you regulate how much maximum memory Firefox can use.

I like Opera, I've downloaded 9b and I use it sometimes just for fun. I'm a Firefox user because of the extreme amount of obtainable functionality but Opera is good as well.

Lug

Lug reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 18, 2006

Ukrainian and Russian language files for Opera 9.0 Build 8414 Beta you can take here http://www.ukrlocal.info/

nms04

nms04 reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 18, 2006

siryak this is still a beta, so it might happen that there r some bugs or memory leaks ... cant't wait for beta2 and the final release!

siryak

siryak reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 18, 2006

Hmm it seems this version has developed a memory leek. Better get that fixed Opera because thats the only reason why I left FF.

SebXX

SebXX reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 18, 2006

So, I give only 4 because that's still a beta
- some memory leaks (make Opera using almost all the physical memory on 2 different computers)
- Flash is still not supported

But I'm sure it will be fixed asap !
I hope google will make their toolbar for Opera too

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 18, 2006

Nice to see Betanews back to normal! Flash (8,0,24) works fine for me, including on Youtube.

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.0 Build 8414 Beta on May 18, 2006

Changelog for build #8414:

- Fixed display on betanews.com.
- Cache is not shared between widgets and pages opened from widgets.
- Fixed Bittorrent downloads on Unix.
- Fixed crash that could occur when exiting pages with Flash 8.
- Fixed IPv6 on FreeBSD.

Yogurth

Yogurth reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 17, 2006

@debugged

flash works normal on that page, version 8.0.24. Must be something on Your side.

debugged

debugged reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 16, 2006

No version of Flash (not even 9) will work right with Opera 9. For all you guys that say Flash works with Opera 9 (not Opera 8) try this page and see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPu19jOcJF4

I get similar Flash problems with many other sites as well. Flash sites will work ok with Opera 8 but not Opera 9.

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 15, 2006

@treworld:
Changelog:
-Fixed session handling for widgets.
-Fixed bug with creating folders in widget panel.
-Fixed wrongly nested tags freezer.

Known issue
-betanews.com still broken

lasitajs

lasitajs reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 15, 2006

I'm a 5-year user of Opera and like what I see from 9, except for one crucial thing: when I hit the back button on my mouse, the previous page returns considerably slower than the instant response of the current (and past) versions. This is a killer for me. I hope you can return to your previously class-leading return speed, otherwise you'll be no better than the other, lessor browsers. I love being able to just click away and page back as fast as the blink of and eye...

treworld

treworld reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 15, 2006

Good browser. However, try viewing www.betanews.com. It does not load properly!

FmlyRnn

FmlyRnn reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 15, 2006

Opera is an Excellent Browser!!! I have no problem with Flash or anything else! I feel that it is Superior. Soon it will be my Default Browser. I am still running test's on what it can do. However, I still have the old version installed, and I compare what each does. So far, so good! Also, I love it's Mail feature. IE7, FireFox are on the System but I still find myself at the Opera.
Thank you, FmlyRnn

LRN

LRN reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 15, 2006

Make sure you installed latest version of Macromedia Flash Player (currently - 9 beta), else flashes may not work properly

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 15, 2006

The best build so far.

stopbuggingme

stopbuggingme reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 15, 2006

Some Flash works, others will not. Example - Flash doesn't work fully at http://www.nissanusa.com

punkesito

punkesito reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

flash work perfect for me.

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

I would give this 5 stars if Flash worked. When is Opera going to get 9 to work with Flash correctly? I have Flash beta 9 installed and Opera beta 9 still won't function properly on many sites (I tried the Nissan link).

wasan

wasan reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

I've used Opera for many years (since Version 4 I suppose) and it impressed me since the begining. I can't claim that it is the best browser. But for some people like me whom browsing styles are based on reading news and searching information then Opera is the best. Especially when you've learned enough to utilize it then you will love it.

For this new version we might considered it as one of a big step by integrating many things in its own style which new users have to take times to get use to and to learn how to utilize it.

So please don't bother to argue about which browser is the best. Since Opera has its own style (like tab browsing or mouse gesture functions...which now seems to be more common) and if it suite you well then enjoy it!!!

immortal223

immortal223 reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

Simply the BEST Internet experience!!! I love this programm!!! There is no internet for me without Opera - Ave Opera!

maraskus

maraskus reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

Opera is nice , I use opera since version 6 and for me, until version 9 all are all right but.... (ever have a "but") since version 9, Opera are inestable and visualy renderize some pages bad (Example : FileForum).
It's a pity but I change to Firefox. Ok, Firefox speed not is like Opera, and Ok, the Opera develop contains much plugins of Firefox but..... Firefox is stable now, very stable, secure and the unique alternative to Internet Explorer with Opera.
FireFox and Opera are good Browsers, and them are brothers not challege (sorry by my very very bad english)
Since now, I test Opera AND Firefox.

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

@zridling
Microsoft hasn't come out with any original ideas since the old dos windows days. They've been stealing ideas from everyone since then. Especially in their new IE7.

Mhh, we can go futher: Microsoft bought Windows NT project(which later degenerated into 2000/XP/2003) and earlier bought D.O.S.. And everybody knows that early Windows was a Mac OS wannabe.
So if we talk openly, M$ never came out with any origial idea, but they made exceptional marketing and law-avoiding strategy. Great rats; erh, sorry, economists!

kyleabaker

kyleabaker reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

@betasun
"left clicking on links to open in a new tab"
--press shift and click the link

@cip2kro
don't think you even tried Opera out. the block content feature is far better than FF. The functionality of it is far better as well as the way it works. Entire inline frames can be blocked.

@zridling
Microsoft hasn't come out with any original ideas since the old dos windows days. They've been stealing ideas from everyone since then. Especially in their new IE7.

@RWW
"Opera renders BetaNews differently than other browsers"
--This may be a bug in Opera's latest build, however, if you right click a betanews page in opera and click the "Validate" option you'll probably laugh at the results. On the betanews homepage alone there are around 250 coding errors.

@ranasrule
"bloatware"
--you are a complete DA. Name one thing that makes opera "bloatware"? Opera is the exact opposite of "bloatware". If anything is "bloatware" it is FF. What you think those extensions help the speed of FF? *laughing* You think IE7 is a fast browser? once again, *laughing* Way to be a spammer ;)

if you want to make the most of your use with opera turn here...
http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/

If you validate this page, there are over 1,100 errors! Its no wonder opera displays some pages wrong! Especially when the code has mistakes, and this many!

betasun

betasun reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

@kyleabaker
as i use many tabs in a window or having many clicks on links is it not better to have an option for it ,also im not accustomed to middle click on links which is easier than holding shift key .

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

I tink we have beta 2 soon.
Jeg tror vi har beta 2 veldig snart.

Opera is the best, even beta.
Opera er best til og med beta.

Heng in there
Hold ut

Terumo

UTAKER

UTAKER reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

cip2kro, did you really try out this Opera release before commenting? Or even know the exact features of it sinc eyou gave it a low rating and teh reason you specified doesnt seem to tally with it since opera does all that pretty well (With forms too)

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

Honestly speaking I do not understand why some people complain at ad blocking functions of Opera. You can make your own list thank to this Web page: http://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers You need around 5 minutes to do that. BTW, the Ad-Block of Mozilla/FF is based on this list. Just open urlfilter.ini (Opera catalog) with notepad and copy all the addresses generated by the Web page. Simple? Yes. Worse than Ad-Block? I do not think so. If it is too hard just copy this file http://rapidshare.de/fil...4453/urlfilter.ini.html to your Opera catalog.

gbp007, in early July.

betasun, right click ---> block content, right below the toolbars (alternatively, right click and press "k"). You just need to show what to block and click "done". To open a new tab, right click on any existing tab and select "new tab" (alternatively, ctrl + "t").

cip2kro

cip2kro reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

Too bad i have so many firefox extensions that i use. Too bad opera doesn't have a proper adblock yet. Too bad i dont need 2 seconds faster loading program, i need my web pages and forms to work properly (and yes, i know many pages.. especialy torrent forms and many important sites)

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

You're "tired" from all of these beta releases"?
What are you, a kid?

If you don't want to test the software, don't download the betas, jeez, wait for the final, which will arrive WHNE IT'S READY.

gbp007

gbp007 reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 14, 2006

So when is opera 9 going to be officially released ? Im tired of all these bets already !

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 13, 2006

Has anyone else noticed the IE7 has copied several features from Opera 9? Good for Microsoft for recognizing good ideas!

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 13, 2006

Pantagruel, Opera renders BetaNews differently than other browsers. If that ever happens usually hitting reload usually puts it right into shape.

Pantagruel

Pantagruel reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 13, 2006

Nice, but doesnt correctly display even BetaNews.com

EDIT: Reloading doesnt help:(

More on this here:

http://my.opera.com/comm...ums/topic.dml?id=138047

EDIT#2: news.yahoo.com doesnt work properly, tv.yahoo.com doesnt work properly as well. Other sites are also kind of funky looking. This makes Opera unusable:(

emupaul

emupaul reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 13, 2006

One of the best browsers peroid,

CallMeYoDaddy

CallMeYoDaddy reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 13, 2006

I've tried most of the well known browsers out there including Firefox but Opera has won me over! With Opera, extensions aren't needed, plus it is a fully featured browser out of the box with no need for third party software. If you'll bother to learn the many features of this browser and pay attention to the details of this browser, you too will see that this is hands down the best browsers available! (Opera 9 Beta Build 8410)

protowall

protowall reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 13, 2006

Definately NOT bloatware! Best browser out there!

ledjani

ledjani reviewed v9.0 Build 8410 Beta on May 13, 2006

Once I got opera in version 7.0 never looked at another browser again. This latest beta is giving me a couple of rendering issues with a couple of sites, other then that, Opera rocks!

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 12, 2006

"gawd21", ya shouldn't be so angry at Opera, i think that many of the problems you mention are ocuring to you alone.
It still has (and for a long time it may keep with them) rendering problems with some pages, but for the amazing it is at everything it touches, i'll keep giving it a 5.

take "uberfly"'s point. that is mine too. glad to see that "netean" is now from our side too.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 12, 2006

Don't install Flash 9 on this yet, stick w/ 8 for now...

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 12, 2006

well said from the guy below me
This browser just rocks plain and simple!

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 12, 2006

The power user's browser. Opera hammers out the ideas before the firefox bunch copies them. Anyone who actually uses this browser for even a short period of time sees how well thought out it is. Firefox is buggy bloat, IE is still IE, and Opera forges ahead.

netean

netean reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 12, 2006

Using the latest beta, and indeed all the previous betas i've found very very few sites that don't work with opera and even less that don't display properly.
For me, it works, every time. Fast, usable, mouse gestures-out of the box.

Just superb.
ONLY criticisms I have of V9 is that I find the widgets utterly pointless - maybe that's just me, but never seen one that I thought was useful in any way.
Also wish it had some kind of plugin support for Del.ico.us. stumbleupon etc.

gawd21

gawd21 reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 12, 2006

9 Versions and about 10 years, still not a working version yet? Hmmmmmmmm, why the heck bother?

"Reviewer: EdenAdore May 11, 2006
Version: 9.0 Build 8406 Beta

I'm seeing the same results with BetaNews.com being screwed up.

Not sure if it's just this beta, but by default, the font sizes are off a bit and cause sites that show up correctly on IE and FF to have linebreaks.

I'm impressed with Opera's steady progress and always enjoy testing each new Beta.
Rating:
Reviewer: stopbuggingme May 11, 2006
Version: 9.0 Build 8406 Beta

I manually installed Flash 8.5 and it STILL WILL NOT WORK! Some pages work, some don't. I give up on this crap.
Rating: "

I have this downloaded in the hope that it might work, but the damn thing still doesn't load half the pages right and it is not faster at loading pages, it just gives you gray screen until it has all downloaded then it loads, I would rather have something that loads the text and then the pics if there are any after my adblocks removes the trash. Sorry, but this is still junk. 10 years and 9 versions and nothing works right, yet!

Now if I am quoting people that have left feed back, so how is it that you say I must be the only one that is having the problems?

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 12, 2006

I think 9/10 reviewers cannot leave aside their bias while writing a review...
I use firefox more than opera,but that doesn't mean opera sucks!!!!
Opera has always been leader in new innovative features and 9/10 times...they leave other to catch'em up!
this version works great and very well done!

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 12, 2006

Ouch. Looks like the Firefix boys are just as angry as the Mac boys. Grow up children.

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 11, 2006

I'm seeing the same results with BetaNews.com being screwed up.

Not sure if it's just this beta, but by default, the font sizes are off a bit and cause sites that show up correctly on IE and FF to have linebreaks.

I'm impressed with Opera's steady progress and always enjoy testing each new Beta.

stopbuggingme

stopbuggingme reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 11, 2006

I manually installed Flash 8.5 and it STILL WILL NOT WORK! Some pages work, some don't. I give up on this crap.

finalcut

finalcut reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 11, 2006

eh, fixing display issue but betanews is all screwed with this release :(

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 11, 2006

best ever...
to get flash you must install the flash installer manualy

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 11, 2006

The best browser to block flash adds

betasun

betasun reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 11, 2006

i like the Opera have an option for left clicking on a link to open it in a new tab .can widgets do this ?

iamtux

iamtux reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 11, 2006

I finally tried a beta right before this one, and found that I fell in love with Opera. Its really fast, even on dial-up. I'm still a FF fan, but this has become my default browser.

mikeyx11

mikeyx11 reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 11, 2006

Works great and is really fast, but I still prefer Firefox somewhat, because it's open source and I prefer the layout.

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 11, 2006

Still no FLASH!

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.0 Build 8406 Beta on May 11, 2006

I must have been lucky not to have suffered the bugs in the previous build reported by others. I've only just downloaded this latest build and it seems to work OK so far!

xippon

xippon reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 8, 2006

I must sey that it's first beta of Opera, that have more bugs than pros.

- flash ads with close doesn't work
- jpg pictures bad display (mess with collors)
- strange behavior with js and CSS with mambo admin
- still not load all images on page problem

Previous 8.x compilation works fine for me.

stopbuggingme

stopbuggingme reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 8, 2006

I have Flash problems with this beta. I have installed the latest version of Flash 8.5 and it still does not work. I would give it 5 stars if the Flash worked.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 7, 2006

Simply the best.

For those complaining about Flash in Opera, try this first http://fileforum.betanew...zilla_Opera/964714156/2

then complain.

osric

osric reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 5, 2006

Uh oh. I recently noticed a very irksome bug in Opera. It is with respect to Gmail, Yahoo Mail and probably with more such sites. The problem is that when reading mails, until the entire contents of the mail message gets downloaded, the various actions such as Forward and Reply do not work. In Gmail there is the link right at the bottom of the page itself which when clicked the page opens up and there is an area where the text of the mail appears. But if the mail is still downloading this area appears white and sometimes causes graphical glitches. In Yahoo Mail, the Forward, Reply, Delete and other buttons do not work at all until the entire mail gets downloaded. This problem becomes very evident when opening mail that contains a lot of embedded images. Really Irritating Problem.

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 5, 2006

I've been an avid FireFox user and have recently converted to Opera. This latest 9.0 beta 8393 will not work with Flash 8. I installed the latest Flash 8.5 beta and some sites work now, many still do not. I'm sticking to 8.54 for now.

jimmyw85

jimmyw85 reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 4, 2006

Nth to say abt it , it's so great. With user javascript , no rendering problem at all.

Widgets ideas are very good!

It's the fastest and most secure Secure Graphical Web Browser in Windows

The best competitor to IE

of coz, BETTER than Firefox

photonboy

photonboy reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 3, 2006

This could be an incredible program, and was very configurable and responsive, however I kept running into webpages that would not work properly. I prefer Firefox, but the newest Internet Explorer 7 beta works quite well.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 3, 2006

The new Widgets UI is a vast improvement on the old methods; much more intuitive.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 3, 2006

Slow in comparison to Firefox, IE6 and 7, Mozilla, Seamonkey...ugly. This browser looks like it came off of Windows 95. The buttons are goofy and the tabs are way too big. Major problems rendering websites...low user base. Waste of time. The only reason I have this installed is so I can test my websites on it and avoid emails from Fanboys complaining how something doesnt work in Opera.

Opera...the name says it all. Its an art form for the boring. NUFF SAID

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 3, 2006

Changelog:

Widgets UI changes:

- Widgets are no longer displayed on a faded --screen.
- New widgets menu, providing options to add, open, and manage widgets.
- New widget management window.

Other changes

- Fixed handling of multiple changes to document.body.style.backgroundColor.
- Fixed behavior of range.compareBoundaryPoints.
- document.compatMode now gives 'BackCompat' for documents being rendered in quirks mode.
- Improved XSLT error reporting.
- Allowed custom headers to be displayed in the quick mail headers toolbar
- Fixed some bugs in the MSI installer.
- Improved handling of "Stop executing scripts on this page" tickbox on script dialogs.
- Support copying attribute nodes in XSLT with copy-of.
- Refuse invalid namespace declaration attributes.
- User CSS is enabled by default in Author Mode.
- Temporary downloads are now cleared when deleting cache.
- Improved deleting of single messages from trash in IMAP accounts.
- Fix for duplicated messages in IMAP.
- Fixed SSL negotiation problem for servers that does not tolerate TLS 1.0 version in the record protocol of the client hello.
- Added system tray icon on Unix.

Known issues

- Opera might fetch some old feed entries double
- Opera might not start in some Unix desktop environments when using a menu entry to start Opera: start it from conosle instead.
you need to use a clean toolbar setup to get the widget menu and the widget panel

The RSS reader in this build is rather wacky. Be warned. :)

SamppaX

SamppaX reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 2, 2006

Im Mostly Firefox user, but this really is a huge jump to next level. Widget idea is good and works ok, but needs work still.

Now the bad things about this. I used this about 2 weeks, When i started first time i already saw some nice things like it takes bookmarks from firefox, so easy to switch, And Blaa Blaa... But Rendering problems are very common and some sites didn't even work/load. This is thing that you can't really blame websites because if FF, IE shows them alright then it something like "standard" to work. I can handle few sites but if 4-8 of my sites don't work i guess something is wrong.

And More widgets! ^^ lol I know, this is beta, but still.

So That's why 4/5. Once they fix Widget & Rendering problems they should be pretty good enemy for FireFox. =)

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 2, 2006

I really want to like this browser, but the continual rendering issues on the same pages (many of them) is inexcusable. Some of you can blame the sites all you want, but why do other browsers get it right? Forget it. I'll stick with Avant.

decmk

decmk reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 2, 2006

I using this browser as default for a while and is wary good, fast and loading pages from cache is amazing. I have tried to import IE Favorites with subfolders and Opera don’t import subfolders. This is still beta, probably will be fixed this in later builds.

ckliebert

ckliebert reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 2, 2006

I like it, however flash does not work for me in 9.
but works in version 8.

any ideas

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 2, 2006

Renders text, CSS, and graphics better than any other browser, especially Firefox. I love this freakin' browser.

Dwiebelhaus

Dwiebelhaus reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 2, 2006

I've used this browser extensivly and it is one of the best alternatives to IE - BUT - a Firefox / Thunderbird combo is much more practical for hardcore daily use honestly.

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 2, 2006

HOORAY! -- Widgets now have a toolbar menu and have been made practical!

The 'Pandora' Widget is VERY cool -- if anyone wants to give widgets a try - check it out. The skin for the Pandora widget works much like a WMP / WinAMP skin with animated minimizing etc. I'm impressed.

I'm so glad they retooled the widgets system.

I --AM-- still using FF as my browser. Opera's development is a hobby to watch until sites that render perfectly on both IE & FF will render perfectly on Opera also. I'm a web developer and would work on Safari compatibility in addition to IE/FF before Opera just based on the usage stats.

UTAKER

UTAKER reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 2, 2006

osric, look in the options, there is an option to turn off the notification for that popup blocker messages too
advanced/notifications

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Build 8393 Beta on May 2, 2006

Changes:

There have been changes to the Widget UI to try to make it more easy to use.
We have removed the "widget mode" and the widget handle. The widgets now appear in their own panel and have their own menu entry.
When a widget is closed it will still be available in the widget panel. You can delete them from there.
This is still work in progress and some things are missing.

Changelog

Widgets UI changes:

Widgets are no longer displayed on a faded screen.

New widgets menu, providing options to add, open, and manage widgets.

New widget management window.

Other changes

Fixed handling of multiple changes to document.body.style.backgroundColor.

Fixed behavior of range.compareBoundaryPoints.

document.compatMode now gives 'BackCompat' for documents being rendered in quirks mode.

Improved XSLT error reporting.

Allowed custom headers to be displayed in the quick mail headers toolbar

Fixed some bugs in the MSI installer.

Improved handling of "Stop executing scripts on this page" tickbox on script dialogs.

Support copying attribute nodes in XSLT with copy-of.

Refuse invalid namespace declaration attributes.

User CSS is enabled by default in Author Mode.

Temporary downloads are now cleared when deleting cache.

Improved deleting of single messages from trash in IMAP accounts.

Fix for duplicated messages in IMAP.

Fixed SSL negotiation problem for servers that does not tolerate TLS 1.0 version in the record protocol of the client hello.

Added system tray icon on Unix.

Known issues

Opera might fetch some old feed entries double

Opera might not start in some Unix desktop environments when using a menu entry to start Opera: start it from conosle instead.

you need to use a clean toolbar setup to get the widget menu and the widget panel

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on May 1, 2006

Simply the best browser on the market today.

osric

osric reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on Apr 22, 2006

Great browser. I have a problem i hope someone has a solution to that. There is a website that i visit frequently that requires login, doesnt save cookies and displays a popup every time i visit it. Although opera blocks the popup, Opera also displays a message that popup was blocked and that takes the control of the textboxes where i need to enter my username and password. it get pretty anoying. any way to make opera not display messages when popups are blocked?

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on Apr 22, 2006

Kicks ass. Whizzy, START USIN IT! NIGGA PLEASE!

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on Apr 22, 2006

Wirpo: With extensions, you know very well what he means. Opera does not, has not, and never will (according to its devs) support EXTENSIONS in the sense that many users refer to. You cannot download an extension and install it into opera that adds auto-complete (which is non-existent in opera, and no, i am not talking about the auto-complete where you have to enter your personal info and it offers to complete that), you cannot do the same for one that puts your weather in the bottom of the browser, you cannot do the same for one that adds better and far more advanced password saving or form filling capabilities (The wand is a poor excuse for password saving/management, and the form filling in opera is just tedious). These are just a FEW examples, I can list plenty more that I have discussed in detail on opera's forums many many times, So please dont accuse me of just pointing these faults out in a review and not reporting to the devs, as I have done so.

Opera is a lovely browser, I use it as my default, but its customizability is limited unless you want to go in and mess with ini files. The toolbars arent easy to customize. In IE, Firefox, Konqueror, AND safari, I can drag toolbars into an arrangement I want, as opposed to having to go into the toolbar customization window, removing the icons from a toolbar I dont want, and adding the ones I do want. That is HIGHLY annoying.

Opera could very well benefit from extensions being allowed into the browser. People use the age-old excuse of security vulnerabilities, but I have only seen ONE vulnerability in a firefox extension, and that was greasemonkey, which was quickly patched and pushed via the updates system. Just because extensions have the capability to cause a problem doesnt mean they will if implimented properly. Thats like you saying you are going to get a car that doesnt have a computer controlled transmission because the computer might fail and hence your transmission might go. Or that you wont buy a flashlight because the batteries inside of it might die when you are using it leaving you open to injury.

Opera is by far the best browser out, dont get me wrong, but I dont leave myself living in a fantasy world (where I pretend opera is perfect and without flaws) when it comes to identifying faults or shortcomings in a product like fanboys for so many applications do. Opera has its share of areas where it could be greatly improved, but it is still the best web browser I have ever used.

Wirpo

Wirpo reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on Apr 22, 2006

Why even bother with Firefox anymore? :-D

BTW, ninjeratu's review is simply misleading.

> Yes, they're useless! Why? You can't remove
> them or ignore them at installation.

So what? Opera is still a tiny download and all those features are hidden/disabled by default.

> Opera is cumbersome and awkward when it comes
> to customizations.

Um. Drag and drop?!

Sorry, ninjeratu, your arguments are simply nonsense :)

> It's ACID2 compliant and fast because you
> cannot add plugins

Wrong. Opera supports plugins and other extension options. BTW, what on EARTH does Acid2 have to do with the user interface capabilities?

> You get the same rendering errors you get from
> time to time in all Opera browsers since Opera
> 5-6

Only for sites that use browser detection to specifically send Opera fubared code. Use spoofing and it'll work.

> it looks a lot like it did 5 years ago

Stop lying. It looks NOTHING like it did five years ago.

> Most features haven't changed since Opera 5
> either.

Another lie.

And the ad blocker is easier to use than anything else. Just click on the stuff you want to block. How can it be easier?!

plings

plings reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on Apr 22, 2006

Yes, stick to Mozilla, Browser12. I will stick around with Opera - a faster, safer and better browser ;)

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on Apr 22, 2006

Browser12 - "Its not easy web browsing" (about Opera). What is SO hard in browsing with Opera and what is so easy with other (i.e. Mozilla) browsers? Is it too fast? Too safe? Something else? Please, explain in detail. Thanks.

Browser12

Browser12 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on Apr 21, 2006

Total piece of crap.

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on Apr 21, 2006

ninjeratu, youre complaining about non-existant problems. get FF instead and stop crying.

bggoth

bggoth reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on Apr 21, 2006

Well the widgets is a fairy new feature and some time ago there were no good ones but now there are very handy widget available & the they are constantly imroving them. G' job!

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on Apr 21, 2006

Excellent Browser. I agree with the comments shared here -- the Widgets system is rather silly in both concept and application. Opera is fast, and does a rather reliable rendering job.

I use Firefox and W3C Validation on pages that I create and always check to make sure that the page renders properly in IE. Opera does not have reliable results for a developer.

Jordanr05

Jordanr05 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8372 on Apr 21, 2006

You can finally use the ctrl-enter shortcut - you have no idea how happy that makes me.

A few notes:

The widgets are useless, why bother with this feature?

Love the integrated Torrent Search.

The ad-block feature is weak. I don't know why these fanboys are making it sound so great. I can honestly say the adblock extension for FF is superior in every way. Hopefully they improve the ad blocking by 9.0 Final.

I'm also cutious how long it will take for hackers to target this browser now that's it free. Only time will tell...

avalanche256

avalanche256 reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 21, 2006

This is my first time using Opera... I've been using Firefox since the .1 days. I have to say, I'm fairly impressed. It seems pretty intuitive... I was able to pick it up and get it customized to my liking in just a few minutes. I can't believe how fast it is, and there's a few good ideas that could be better implemented in Firefox.

However, the adblocker seems like it could use some more work still, and I don't really get the whole widget thing. There's also a few firefox extensions that don't seem to be replicatable (word?) in Opera that I've grown too used to (Forecast Fox, Foxy Tunes, IE Tab, Web Developer to name a few).

From what little I've used of it, I'd have no problem recommending it to someone looking for an IE alternative. In fact, I might even recommend it over firefox for it's better out-of-the-box funcationality. But for me (and anyone else who wants to take the time to get to know firefoxs extensions), it jsut won't be replacing Firefox any time soon.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 21, 2006

Simply the best.

Lands

Lands reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 21, 2006

Everything I want from a browser. Period.

sQin

sQin reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 21, 2006

opera 9 is realy better than firefox IMO, because:
+ more secure
+ same most popular features (ffox adblock, noscript, mouse gestures, widgets...)
+ designed for old cpus, you can browse 10 tabs at the moment without slowdown of memory leak

rcglidden

rcglidden reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 21, 2006

ummm.... wow. I'll keep it short... THE only browser I LIKE to use... ok, bye.

ninjeratu

ninjeratu reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

Right, I think we need to give some of the people here some tranquilizers before they make a mess in their pants. "Best browser" is an utterly subjective feeling, and the fan boys should chill a bit. People might start to think Opera paid you to write "reviews" here.

Opera 9 an excellent browser with some interesting features, but fail to excel because of a few serious issues. And yes .. it's a BETA. Unfortunately the problems aren't bugs - they're functionality and implementation.

So..
ACID2 compliant? Yes, great!
Fast browsing? Yes, great!
Small footprint? Yes, great! .. Unless you use widgets, torrents, mail, RSS ...
And then..?
Useless features like Torrents and mail. (Yes, they're useless! Why? You can't remove them or ignore them at installation. I don't care if 2% of the Opera users actually USE the mail client. Even Mozilla asks if you want to install extra crap. If you could opt to install it or not it would be an EXTRA FEATURE and something good. Now it's annoying and useless.)

Opera is cumbersome and awkward when it comes to customizations. Easy to change icons and colors, but beyond that it's unnecessarily difficult to customize anything. It's 2006, it shouldn't be this difficult.

It's ACID2 compliant and fast because you cannot add plugins (in the sense most of us mean by plugins). They add (at the moment) pointless widgets, the closest Opera will get to plugins - without actually being able to change any functionality. The "content blocker" and "Site Specific preferences" are OK for adblocking. But since you can't change or add any functionality to Opera they should be made much more intuitive, able to load/import sites and have an updater function for site lists (like AdBlock). Too little, too late. And the password manager? I can only use two words. Not. Good.
That it cannot remember and autofill forms by default (since you can't add it as a plugin) is just unbelievable. It's still 2006, not 1996.

You get the same rendering errors you get from time to time in all Opera browsers since Opera 5-6 (I bet it's because they take shortcuts when rendering pages, and it just can't render fast enough sometimes).

Somewhat confusing and annoying configuration, counter-intuitive and "old skool" - it looks a lot like it did 5 years ago. (But so do a lot of other browsers). Most features haven't changed since Opera 5 either. Not necessarily a bad thing, unless you want a more flexible and customizable browser.

Opera is a good browser, but it won't end all famine and wars, like some people seem to believe. The only thing it's actually better at, compared to competing browsers, is the ACID2 compliance and rendering engine (which still has some issues). They should've added better adblocking features, a more flexible tab handling system, better customization options/implementations, redone the configuration screens and scaled down on the extras (or compiled an Opera Lite!).

Want mail, torrent support, RSS, widgets, a fast browser in a package that can render testpages better than anyone else but with annoying shortcomings and sometimes frustrating idiosyncrasies? Use Opera.
If you don't, go somewhere else.

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

although probably "the fastest browser on earth" indeed, it has some quirks with some flash content (or shockwave, i really can't tell the difference) from some pages, but trust me its a one in a million and maybe im the only idiot who came across that.

hell, who cares! this is by far the best browser on its whole.- firefox is for grandmas; if you need a more seriously designed browser, get Opera. And remember its in BETA phase yet.

No mean to offense, i just really feel this is the truth to it.

- Plus, try the acid2 test with IE, Firefox and Opera and SEE IT FOR YOURSELF.
http://webstandards.org/action/acid2/

Lug

Lug reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

Ukrainian and Russian language files for Opera 9.0 Beta 1 you can take here: http://www.ukrlocal.info/trans/

lil2short2see

lil2short2see reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

Although probably not the "fastest browser on Earth", this new version put many useful things in it, and little neat widgets. Could have more extentions (or any at all) like Firefox. I base my rating on my previous experiences with Opera. This is definitely a good browser. Give it a try!

zridling

zridling reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

If you're still stuck on Firefox, get over it and start using a secure browser for a change. Opera doesn't brag, it just works.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

Slightly surprised that Beta 1 is Build 8367. I've been using the weekly builds since they started coming out with no problems, ending on 8371. I assume Opera know what they are doing, though. :-)

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

@jonspencerbx:

It took me a while to figure out how to make the "content" bit works. I was right-clicking on images instead of the page! Now i goccha!!

4+

(be nice if it had a general adfilter)

jshurst

jshurst reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

I am impressed. I'm a hardcore Firefox user and I like this browser too. The widgets are awesome, cool skins, and built in mouse gestures. Very cool. The person who mentioned Windows Live not working is correct though. I guess it doesn't know how to handle webparts.

Anyway so far I love it!

ravemanson

ravemanson reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

"The upgrade says that it will easily upgrade an existing install of opera without loosing your settings. This alone failed miserably.

It also appears my IRC channels are missing as well as all of my email accounts.

Things are not right in Opera land."

For Christ'sakes, You haven't lost anything, the directory paths this version uses are different from Your last version's paths. Just copy your profile folder over the new one stated in HELP>ABOUT in Opera.

imrans

imrans reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

@felixml: Don't blame your unability to do anything correctly to the browser. I perform bookmarks export /import periodically (as I use Opera and FF both) and it works just fine. Better learn the proper way than shouting like a 4 year old.

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

opera 9 beta 1 is build 8367 because of some regression with 8371. but i've been using 8371 since its release, and i've had no problems whatsoever. however, I'VE READ on the opera forums opera 9 beta 1 is not as stable as 8371. i know, ya gotta take that with a grain of salt. i haven't had an opera crash since version 4.

i agree, great browser.

maxxpilot

maxxpilot reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

Hmm this Beta didn't live up to it's billing.

I upgraded my existing version of Opera which was a technological preview.

The upgrade says that it will easily upgrade an existing install of opera without loosing your settings. This alone failed miserably.

It also appears my IRC channels are missing as well as all of my email accounts.

Things are not right in Opera land.

To ravemanson:

I didn't write the script where it claimed to upgrade seamlessly. Your somehow assuming that its my fault or I wrote that snypit about it upgrading seamlessly. The fact remains that its a claim by the staff at Opera that it would do so. If they can't live up to the billing then shouldn't we who are testing this point it out.

Time to grow up son. Opera is a great browser and I use it daily. However, if they are going to make a claim then they need to make sure it works as advertised. This isn't seamless if you have to reconfigure your browser. This doesn't seem seamless or what they intended. Hence why I pointed it out.

Its also apearant that you have little idea what or how beta testing works. If you test things and they fail. They should get a low grade. You admit in your post that it didn't work and I needed to reconfigure according to help. Yet you gave it a 5. It seems to this tester if it doesn't work according to thier statements it should get a lower grade. To paste a 5 for a rating on something that doesn't live up to its billing is inflating thes score of the product. This isn't a popularity contest its a score based on its current development in Beta.

LyyNx

LyyNx reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

love the browser

offtopic: according to Opera 9 Beta1 about page it is actualy "9.0 Build 8367 Beta". so my question is why is earlier build said to be the next step after 8371 build? or am i getting the wrong idea..

asellus

asellus reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

From a Firefox user who migrates from Opera 7.x

At last, full GMail support (the 7.x and 8.x versions doesn't do Rich Text editing for e-mail composing).even when Opera claims full support.

Can only give 3 though, because it sucks at opening http://www.live.com which is my home page. Will stay with Firefox until at least it renders Live.com correctly!

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2006

@DaComboMan

There IS Content blocking in opera 9 Beta! Maybe you should first read the changelog and try the program? Anyway, right-click on a page and choose 'block content'. You don't even have to install an extension ;)

This is a great release! A little bit unstable in places and the widgets implementation still needs a lot of work, but it is really getting there!

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v9.0 Build 8371 Beta on Apr 19, 2006

Still no Adblock...

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.0 Build 8371 Beta on Apr 19, 2006

Build #8371 starts quickly, very much improved.
Was receiving several error "Opera has encountered problems and is shutting down" messages, so far none on this build.
Hate to be critical of my favorite browser but that is how things get better. The voice feature is clunky, hard to use and understand. Needs improvement in controls and instruction.

osric

osric reviewed v9.0 Build 8371 Beta on Apr 19, 2006

How to download from mms:// links?

d3bruts1d

d3bruts1d reviewed v9.0 Build 8371 Beta on Apr 19, 2006

The information is incorrect. This is NOT a Beta version... this is still a pre-beta version, in fact; the Opera Desktop Team called it a "Beta RC". So you should expect to see a true beta in another week or two if we are lucky.

This is also the reason you don't see it listed on http://snapshot.opera.com (the beta site). You'll find the information on this version at http://my.opera.com/desktopteam

The alpha versions of Opera have always been great, and I usually use them on my main system instead of the latest [public] released version.

aruprc

aruprc reviewed v9.0 Build 8371 Beta on Apr 19, 2006

Works nice and smooth,ditched version 8 for it,time for them to make it a final release.

henris

henris reviewed v9.0 Build 8371 Beta on Apr 19, 2006

Fastest.

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v9.0 Build 8371 Beta on Apr 19, 2006

Kan anbefale denne til alle som vil ha et bedre alternativ en IE 6 ( 7 ).
Syns du det lukter svidd, så er det bare Opera som kjører fort. Ha.Ha.Ha.
Og den er vel snart ute av beta også nå.

Terumo

jan.kachlik

jan.kachlik reviewed v9.0 Build 8371 Beta on Apr 19, 2006

Opera is best.. but i don't understand what i can't download beta from their beta pages..
http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v9.0 Build 8371 Beta on Apr 19, 2006

Well if you want ULTRA FAST, nice, easy but with lot of functions Opera is the choice.

This is not even BETA, so it can be non stable, but for me in this stage is quite ok, no problems.

yanike

yanike reviewed v9.0 Build 8367 Beta on Apr 16, 2006

Awesome Browser! It does support flash content. Go to the flash site and download flash player to your PC, shut down Opera completely and run the flash installer. Restart Opera and Flash Works :)

Also try my new IE7 for Opera skin(http://my.opera.com/comm...ize/skins/info/?id=3520) for the beta. I decided to do this new skin, cause some Opera users were saying the old skins didn't look right.

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.0 Build 8367 Beta on Apr 16, 2006

the best ever

SebXX

SebXX reviewed v9.0 Build 8367 Beta on Apr 12, 2006

Opera is really a nice browser: light, fast to load, with a very pleasant design... And a lot of features for advanced users (but still easy to use)

The only bad point I found in this version 9 is the lack of support for Flash plugin... (but hey, it's still a beta)

Else I found the "block content" tool amazing!
Far better than Firefox (I was tired to search for extensions to get the same power as I have in Opera)

Well done Opera!

GimieGimieGimie

GimieGimieGimie reviewed v9.0 Build 8367 Beta on Apr 12, 2006

Just a quick review between v8.54 and this build:

Fantastic upgrade, additional useful features without comprimising the excellence of the previous version. And the inclusion of saving a webpage to a single file (mht) has FINALLY been included in another browser other then IE (i've been waiting for this for YEARS), thank god!

Opera has always been ahead of IE in terms of its features for over 6 years now (as far as i can remember v3.0) but has always had the irony of not including the simple but useful features IE offered, glad after all these time, Opera is finally catching up. I just hope they match IE's simplicity one day in terms of including a right click context menu in everything they do.

This is an age old argument i've already had over in the Opera forums and they still haven't advanced with this, which is my only negitive comment to make about Opera and its company, too much pride.

If you want to be the best of the best, you got to include the best of the best that has come before you, not what tickles your fancy as a programmer, this is fact and will always be fact, and i hope that Opera includes ALL of IE's wonderful features one day. (Yes, IE was good for something once upon a time)

But back to this build, i am certainly enjoying this build over v8.54 and i doubt i'll go back, so great work Opera team!

osric

osric reviewed v9.0 Build 8367 Beta on Apr 12, 2006

Overall a great browser, but there are somethings that i still wish for:

1. Accelerated downloading - Yeah, I know its a browser and not a download manager, but since they have a feature to handle transfers then why not make it comparable to a download manager. That would eliminate the need for a download manager.

2. Improvements in torrents download - Opera does not give any error message if the torrent file is corrupt. I wasted a lot of time trying to figure out why Opera is not able to start the torrent till i finally installed BitComet that informed me that the torrent file is corrupt.

3. More flexibility of toolbars. I keep my bookmarks on a toolbar. There is no option to create folders, rename bookmarks by right clicking on the toolbar.

4. Better rendering of sites. For this point I blame not Opera but the designers of websites for developing incompatible websites. All the new mail services - Gmail, Windows Live Mail and Yahoo Beta are giving problems.

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v9.0 Build 8367 Beta on Apr 11, 2006

I like Opera - and it's interesting to be able to view sites as they would appear on a cell phone.

One issue that I have with Opera's small screen support is that on many of my sites, I have a DIV area with height: 1px and opacity at zero. It works fine in Opera, Firefox, and IE - but the minibrowser expands the area and all content, which I can't find a way around.

I also don't understand why Arial Unicode MS is set as the default font for menus, but Opera opens and uses the system font for all of my menus. Each time I reinstall, I have to manually select Arial Unicode MS (even though it is set in the options screen). Each install resets this.

Weird - and I've not found anything about this on the net.

And I don't care for the widgets =) - I think they are silly =)

Wes

Wes reviewed v9.0 Build 8367 Beta on Apr 11, 2006

Changes:

Stability fixes.
Save directory only reset to Download directory when Download directory is changed.
Fixed viewing messages in GMail.
"Cycle without showing list" now includes also minimized pages.

Unix specific:

X clipboard fixed.
Fixed RSS stylesheet on Unix.

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v9.0 Build 8367 Beta on Apr 11, 2006

Jeg liker dette mer og mer.
Det er ikke lenge til nå før vi får en ferdig versjon av Opera.
Stå på.

Terumo

rijp

rijp reviewed v9.0 Build 8367 Beta on Apr 11, 2006

MarcFou. By my calc, that's 3.625!

But good just the same, not quite a 4, but maybe I will help it a bit.

This build is definately better than previous builds.

Wirpo

Wirpo reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 10, 2006

Clear improvement over 8.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 9, 2006

Fixed Yahoo mail rendering issue as far as i can see... Still not 100% compatible with Gmail. But another nice and stable build. Looking forward to final result.

MarcFou

MarcFou reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 9, 2006

Been using Opera exclusively since v7.0 Beta 1. Here is my honest review...

(Scale 1 to 5, with 5 being best)

Stability: 4
Ease of Use: 3
Help & Documentation: 3
Speed of loading pages: 4
Speed of Program Load: 5
Skins, Addons, Plugins: 4
Intuitive Features\Design: 4
Wizards, Import, Export: 2

Overall Rating: 4

yanike

yanike reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 9, 2006

Great Program!

If the installer doesn't work could be for these reasons.

If it's a beta don't install it over another beta. Always do a new install with betas. Also uninstall and manually delete the left over files from the old beta.

Hope this helps :)

osric

osric reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 9, 2006

Great Browser!!!

@Irritated User
Try the classic installer: http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o90w_8359.exe

I have a question: Does Opera have segmented downloading?

Irritated User

Irritated User reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 8, 2006

UPDATED
---------------

Orignal Msg:
"Opera 9 beta would not install, I got the following message: "configuration data for this product is corrupt".

It obviously works on others' machines. Anyone any clues?"

The Update:
-----------------

First, my thanks to 'osric' for providing mw with the Opera link, this version works.

For years I've looked at Opera with the view of making it my default browser but I've always rejected it for one reason or another; with version 9 I now can.

Why? Well, Opera has always had a number of advantages over Internet Explorer but, up until now, it has never had the ability to save a Web page as a single file archive, however IE has had this feature since early versions of IE5. The single page Web archive format is IE's .MHT format [Multipurpose Internet Mail Extension HTML (MHTML)], and until now it has ONLY been available in IE! (Yes, I'm well aware of Christopher Ottley's .MHT/.MAF/.MAFF extension for Firefox, but being an extension which often breaks with FF's updates, it's only been for diehards like me.)

Clearly, this is a breakthrough for alternative browsers for we now have a real alternative to the Microsoft product, as Opera now just about fully competes with IE when compared feature by feature. It has perplexed me for years (and still does) as to why MHTML/.MAF has been such a very glaring omission from alternative browsers. (I can see very few reasons why anyone would want to save a Web page in the normal fashion (.HTM), as the page saves in an unholy mess: there's all sorts of files, often dozens of them, .HTM, .GIF, .JS etc. including a directory. The MHT format allows all of this info to be encapsulated into one single file which means it can be archived, emailed, not subject to disintegration from duplicate file programs [which zap .GIFs etc.], and such.)

Question: I've not found how to make Opera 9 save in .MHT by default. Is there a way to do this? I'd be most grateful to know.


Immediate wish list
--------------------------

1. Opera 9 beta still gives me problems with Microsoft-specific pages, for instance Internet banking and frames--where the text is missing from (generally) the left hand frame. (I really wish the Opera people would swallow their pride and add an exceptions-to-W3C feature DLL or whatever. It's a fact of life that M$ just about runs everything--especially big corporations' IT departments--so allowances have to be made to accommodate this rubbish.)

2. Another M$ compatibility: make the default fonts EXACTLY the same size and type as IE (a good test is a Google search results page, in Opera the heading font is always too large). If it's not considered important enough for the default then provide for this option within the setup (I waste hours stuffing around with this nonsense--Opera uses more screen than IE does for this reason.)

3. Improve the configuration of the Toolbars (very inflexible outside what's already given).

4. Include a History icon on the default toolbar a la IE. Also, improve toolbars so that they can still retain all the selections but use up much less screen/desktop space.

5. A function key or CTRL+key to IMMEDIATELY and (dynamically) stop Java and Java script/applets etc. and restart it again by re-toggling. Here, Opera would clearly indicate whether Java/Java script is on or not--a big red Java sign with or without a diagonal black line through it or such. Not loading Java often makes a huge difference in site loading times. And it also kills off much of the other useless garbage that Java loads (to do this at the moment I use IE for my main browser with Java on and Opera with it turned off--both browsers are loaded and I cut-and-paste URLs from IE to Opera. This is very messy and a one-browser solution is sorely needed).

6. In a similar vein to (5), filters/key combos etc. are also needed to stop other types of content from being downloaded or being load. It's often very clear what kind of content a site has and often one is only interested in the data not the adds, links, embedded content, web bugs or junk loading from referred sites or data being sent to referred sites and other such rubbish. Being able to filter them out (a) in decent filters within the browser as presets AND (b) also toggle the features on and off on the fly would be a really marvellous feature. Whilst still needed, using permanent settings is often not the answer as for 'trusted' sites you often want this extra stuff and for 'suspect' sites you want it to be nuked. Most firewalls haven't got this fully sorted out either so there's a real need for it to be done within the browser.

7. And of course, being able to save .MHT Web pages by default and a and single function allocated would be just perfect (even CTRL-S).

There's more but I'll spare you all from that for now.

In summary, all in all, the Opera 9 beta is a very welcome development and I heartily recommend it.

PC Rat

PC Rat reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 8, 2006

...

"Love Opera. Switched around v7.0, never looked back."

...

Absolutely !

Trust the PC Rat: Opera is the BEST web browser.

...

...

"Stable. Nice features. And last but not least, quick."

...

~Exactly~ so !

Firefox and Internet Explorer are DOGS compared to Opera.
...

The Computer Rodent

...

chrisoverzero

chrisoverzero reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 8, 2006

Love Opera. Switched around v7.0, never looked back.

@computershack
Opera will use as much memory as you tell it to. You can reduce the size of the on-disk cache in the settings.

@terryphi
What bug is that?

Alnag

Alnag reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 8, 2006

Great and even more than that. Stable. Nice features. And last but not least, quick.

Terryphi

Terryphi reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 8, 2006

Developers are in denial about the disastrous cookie management bug. This makes it virtually unusable. For this reason I'll grudgingly give this version a rating of 1.

computershack

computershack reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 8, 2006

"Mac specific:
- Easter egg added (hint: You need a remote control)"

Err, instead of writing ****ing s***e, why not address the massive memory usage?

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 8, 2006

It consumes 100K of RAM on my machine.

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 8, 2006

why does it have to consume 100+ MB RAM?

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 7, 2006

Opera blir bare bedre og bedre, og jeg gleder meg til den ferdige versjonen kommer.
Denne er også ganske stabil, ja fra 8333 så er den så stabil at jeg bruker den hver dag.
Kan anbefale den til alle som som leser her.
Stå på Opera.

Terumo

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.0 Build 8359 Beta on Apr 7, 2006

Changelog for the new build:

- Fixed widget crash in in 16-bit/24-bit resolutions
- Fixed crash caused by corrupted language files
- Fix crash when resetting a form with a fieldset inside
- Fixed bug with some archive files opened blank
- Fixed bug where width calculation of images in Java-Script doesn't work
- Fixed flash crasher
- Fixed Bit Torrent crash and leak when resuming a torrent with one file missing
- Fixed a couple of memory leaks

Mac specific:
- Easter egg added (hint: You need a remote control)

Windows specific:
- MSI installer fixes for win98/win95

Unix specific:
- Known issue: RSS feeds require "Prefer plain text" to be displayed (fix here: http://my.opera.com/toman/blog/show.dml/212104)

5pts from me. :)

Terryphi

Terryphi reviewed v9.0 Build 8348 PreBeta RC on Apr 7, 2006

Cookie management bug created by the introduction of site specific preferences has *still* not been fixed after 2 months of weekly builds. It can seriously mess up your saved cookie preferences.

My advice: stick with version 8.54 until this is fixed.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.0 Build 8348 PreBeta RC on Apr 6, 2006

Widgets on win9x still have screen display issues(Nvidia, the last 2/3 weekly builds)-- and, this site: http://music.aol.com/ still has many issues.

(Just for testing purposes-- not an aol fanboy please......)

guti

guti reviewed v9.0 Build 8348 PreBeta RC on Apr 6, 2006

Getting near to be gold!

Much improved features than 8.54.
At this point, quite stable for regular usage.

wanderer2005

wanderer2005 reviewed v9.0 Build 8348 PreBeta RC on Apr 6, 2006

Opera is a great browser. I am amazed at it's speed to render webpages. Opera 9 includes a new feature the ability to block ads. Prior to Opera 9, you needed to add a third party plugin to block ads (e.g. Opera Ad Filter). But, the plugins were clumsy to use.

This message is for "osric." To configure Opera to ask for a password when you use the wand for the first time, follow these steps:
1. From the Menu bar choose Tools > Preferences.
2. Choose the "Advance" tab
3. Click on the "Security" option which appears on the left panel.
4. Under "Ask for password," click and choose "once per session."
5. Click "OK" and viola all done!

Sinister

Sinister reviewed v9.0 Build 8348 PreBeta RC on Apr 6, 2006

It's worth it, believe me.

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v9.0 Build 8348 PreBeta RC on Apr 6, 2006

Getting better and more stable every week. Widgets are also getting better, and the available widgets are also getting more usefull.

@osric:

tools > preferences > advanced > security.
Use the dropdown menu and set it to 'once per session'. Also enable 'use as master password for e-mail and wand'.

osric

osric reviewed v9.0 Build 8348 PreBeta RC on Apr 6, 2006

Great Browser.

Is there a way to set a password for the wand so that it will ask me for a password when I use the wand for the first time after starting Opera?

Wirpo

Wirpo reviewed v9.0 Build 8348 PreBeta RC on Apr 6, 2006

It's kind of silly to blame Opera for "losing" settings when it doesn't lose anything. People should read the announcement on Opera's site and NOT just install without looking at known issues.

Giving Opera a bad rating because you failed to read the announcement is... Well, not very clever.

plings

plings reviewed v9.0 Build 8348 PreBeta RC on Apr 6, 2006

*** NOTE ABOUT LOSING SETTINGS ***

Opera does NOT LOSE YOUR SETTINGS. The latest weekly simply FORCES A SPECIFIC BETA FOLDER to avoid problems for NORMAL people trying out the beta. But your settings are NOT LOST, they are simply left in the OTHER installation.

LeXTeRiTY_X: Opera *** DOES WORK ON SITE COMPATIBILITY ***. But the fact is that most sites that don't work are broken because of BROWSER SNIFFING, and they keep sending BROKEN CODE SPECIFICALLY TO OPERA. Don't blame OPERA for being DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.

ZonkSJx: Get Flash 8 and it will probably work. Not Opera's fault.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.0 Build 8348 PreBeta RC on Apr 6, 2006

AWESOME!

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.0 Build 8348 PreBeta RC on Apr 6, 2006

nice a beta RC finaly

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 6, 2006

Latest stable version - 8.54 -> http://www.opera.com/download/
Latest beta version - build 8348

bggoth

bggoth reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 5, 2006

1. Minimize to sys tray is presented as feature for a loong time now (Ctrl + H)
2. Use the CLASSIC installer , the other one is in testing... look for the classic one @ http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/

osric

osric reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 5, 2006

"Thank you" to the person who posted the review that he lost his bookmarks. I took the precaution to export my bookmarks and then restore it after reinstalling. Seems like this precaqutionary step should always be performed before installing a new version of any browser.

Opera keeps improving with every build. Hey, Opera should intorduce segmented downloading in transfers. That would eliminate the need for installing a separate download manager.

One more feature that I feel Opera should include is minimise to system tray. That way i can let transfers of torrents and other files running without obstruction.

vifins

vifins reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 2, 2006

This browser is just getting better and better!

@marty & krgood:
Check the paths in Help->About Opera
The settings and bookmarks are probably not lost, but stored in a different location than before for some reason. It could be that you changed from multi-user to single-user, or selected a different place to install Opera. You might also want to try the Classic Installer which you can get from http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/ since there seems to be some issues with the new MSI installer.

@bunghole:
2): I guess you mean the history dropdown? You can turn it off in opera:config. Search for 'Auto Dropdown' and deselect it.
3): In Tools->Preferences you can choose to delete cookies and empty cache on exit. You can also set number of addresses to remember to 0.

shroom

shroom reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 2, 2006

You should not forget that you're using a beta software... So you should take all appropriate actions before using it.
That's up to you if you've lost all your bookmarks :)

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 2, 2006

Thanks vifins, those did the trick! Much appreciated. I think I'll be using Opera a lot more now.

bloodx

bloodx reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

No google type toolbar. Useless without it.

krgood

krgood reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

Gotta go with a 2 as well. It ate all my bookmarks as well as plugin's,and skins. It had problems hanging on sites, so I went back to 8326 and all was back and normal. This one has some issues, at least for me.

marty

marty reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

I still have to rate the version of Opera as a 2 (only because a FEW of my bookmarks were retained). I restored the Opera program file using Acronis 8.0. Find a copy of Acronis 8.0 somewhere. Ver 9.0 adds many useless options but doesn't create an image on my system (Windows 2K and Win XP x64. I hassled around with tech support and they were cretins - telling me my disks were bad when their own log file said otherwise. Got my money back for 9.0 and Disk Director 10.0 free. Sorry to add this rant to an Opera review but it shows you that an "upgrade" even out of beta - can be big trouble

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

I wish it didn't guzzle 110MB+ RAM

Yogurth

Yogurth reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

@betasun

It is easy to turn off, just click on curved arrow and deselect show widget button...

Opera is really getting better and better, this release fixed several issues with rendering alignments on vBulletin for me. I can't crash it yet :)

betasun

betasun reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

everything is good but i dont like Opera Widget
pending above and over the browser and my monitor.

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

A fantastic browser. I'm also experiencing certain concerns over rendering -- my sites look exactly the same on IE and Firefox, and I go to great lengths to make sure that my sites are 100% CSS and XHTML compliant, yet many of them will have Opera-related quirks.

I'm not too sure about the Opera Widgets system either ... it seems rather odd to have a separate Widgets layer associated with Opera that do not actually benefit the browsing experience. Why not just have this as a separate entity?

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

Great Browser! Be careful Firefox!!

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

I like Opera and would like it to be my only browser. However, because of rendering issues, I have to use another ( Seamonkey) which is quite impressive.

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

For meg er Opera den beste og leteste nettleser som fins.
Den har alt man trenger, nedlasting, e-post og mye mere.
Jeg kan på det varmeste anbefale den til alle.
Men pass opp den er svært vanedannende.

PS. Vi trenger noen Norske også her.
We need som Norwegian review also.

Terumo

guti

guti reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

baki_princ, I supose you are refering to the Windows installers.

In that case, get the Classic Installer (Wise), instead of the Installshield Windows MSI.

yanike

yanike reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

Better than before. Congrats Opera!

baki_princ

baki_princ reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

I love Opera but this is first disapoiment for me! this instaler is diferent then previus, and erase it ALL my wand paswords, my personal setings, my bookmarks! Beware and backup all of this before you install this version.

LeXTeRiTY_X

LeXTeRiTY_X reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

Opera sure is getting better. The Widgets are an excellent addition although Opera appear to focus on the smaller details rather than site compatibility. Also, they have missed a few smaller details like resizable toolbars when used with left or right placements. I can resize most toolbars I have encountered to just icons on the left side, but sadly, not with Opera.

Until Opera work on site compatibility, I refrain from recommending Opera as a preferred browser to other people, unless they're familiar with site design to work around site compatiblity. Since this site compatibility issue is still around, I can only recommend Firefox to others, even though Opera is the default browser in my system.

McCrap

McCrap reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

Better than the best!

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Apr 1, 2006

Incredible. With each build opera is getting better and better)). Latest betas are even bug-free for me. Perfect browser. I will never ever use anything for browsing. Internet means Opera for me.

ZonkSJx

ZonkSJx reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Mar 31, 2006

Ill give it a 4 because of continuous progress.

The only thing that bugs me about these betas is that it doesnt render some flash content very well.

example..

www.vh1.com ... It doesnt show full content, no matter if you reload or not, or it may get one or two pieces of the content.

sajjansinghania

sajjansinghania reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Mar 31, 2006

I think Internet Explorer Aol Explorer and all other small Browsers should stop developing own and start copying Opera. Never has such sweet experience before I started using Opera. Congrats to developers. Great efforts, immaculate expertise, uptodate technolodgy and right exxorts.

BoNeLeSS

BoNeLeSS reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Mar 31, 2006

I don't like to express myself in absolutes... but when this get out of beta will be the best browser ever... Fast as hell, almost perfect standards compliant, and working popup blocker and password fillers.

I just love it

Eldar

Eldar reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Mar 31, 2006

Had the same problem about the settings which were lost on install. :-/
Also didn't get the same screen as before to choose update, instead of new install.
Let's remember it's a beta, so these things can happen.
If you don't want the trouble, then don't use a beta, but instead wait for the official release.

However just copied the previous settings over from My Documents and every setting/bookmark/note, theme, ... was back on restart. LOL
Still my most preferred browser. :-)

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Mar 31, 2006

make sure u pay close attention to the setup screen. you must choose the same option as you chose for previous installs. that would be either 'single user' or 'for all users'. just choose the same directory, then the right option is selected automatically.

i tested this version and did not loose my settings. the installer which is linked here (executable) still provides the options i am referring to (they are hidden until you choose another directory form the previous). i have not tested the other msi installer. i dont say there is no bug in the installer. i just dont want people to be scared away. just make a backup of your directories. you should do that anyway.

hm... well my option is 'NO individual profiles', maybe the bug concerns only those who choose indivduals ..... (wich is default)

CHANGELOG

Several memory leaks fixed;
Display issues fixed - noticeable e.g. on gmail and vBulletin sites;
Fixed bug with attachment button on gmail;
Fixed bug with pages not loaded on restart;
Fixed content blocker;
Fixed Proxy On/Off toggle in Quick Preferences;
Added setting for show widget handle in Preferences > General;
Ongoing work on widget GUI;

RoSmecher

RoSmecher reviewed v9.0 Build 8333 Beta on Mar 31, 2006

great job they are doing with the weekly friday builds. improving the product everytime, i just hope they also improve lots of those strange alignments of some web pages. anyway i am sure the final opera 9 will be amazing. good luck to firefox and ie 7.

Mark Gillespie

Mark Gillespie reviewed v9.0 Build 8326 Beta on Mar 30, 2006

This build is the best weekly of Opera 9 so far, I have no stability issues whatsoever, some of the previous weeklies had quirks...

Orbitration

Orbitration reviewed v9.0 Build 8326 Beta on Mar 30, 2006

Grrrr. I forgot Opera does NOT keep your personal settings, and I just spent 1/2 hour resetting the whole program back up to my tastes.
Is it so hard to update withOUT losing personal settings like every other program known to man, almost ?

Other than that, it's Opera. We all know the meaning of that.

coover

coover reviewed v9.0 Build 8326 Beta on Mar 29, 2006

Something is wrong with the download link. The download I get is 74.1 K in size, obviously not Opera.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.0 Build 8326 Beta on Mar 29, 2006

Can we PLEASE change the home page listed here for this version to: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/

Gaining added functionalities at some classically inaccessible sites-- it feels like eventually all such obstacles will be overcome w/ final 9 release...

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Build 8326 Beta on Mar 29, 2006

Forza Opera!

bggoth

bggoth reviewed v9.0 Build 8326 Beta on Mar 29, 2006

"We'll probably have another build this friday. :D"
Yay! Can't wait! ^^

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.0 Build 8326 Beta on Mar 29, 2006

Edit: I was beat to it!

siryak, to enable the usage of newer WMP in Opera, add a "opera.exe" key in the registry in the following location:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE >> SOFTWARE >> Microsoft >> MediaPlayer >> ShimInclusionList

Edu_SS,
Check your keyboard setup by going to Preferences >> Advanced >> Shortcuts >> Keyboard setup >> Edit and search for "hide opera", change your shortcut (if you so please) and viola.

Changelog for this "mid-weekly" release:

- Fixed timestamp bug in Mail.
- Fixed copy bug where space was inserted before special.characters.
- Fixed bug where links from widgets opened in new window not tab.
- Remember widgets independent of startup option.
- Reloading open message when IMAP is checking.
- Fixed bug where widget handler stole focus from opera when starting.
- Script dialogs now have the option to stop scripts running on the current page,
in order to prevent further dialogs from appearing.

Mac specific:
- Startup crasher fixed.
- CTRL+any key crash fixed.

Unix specific:
- Widget handle can now be disabled.
- Fixed plug-ins when libXft was not preloaded.

We'll probably have another build this friday. :D
^ Nothing official, of course, just what I saw on the forums...

FataL

FataL reviewed v9.0 Build 8326 Beta on Mar 29, 2006

@Edu_SS: You always can hide Opera to system tray by pressing [Ctrl]+[H].
Also when Opera hides in tray it eats even lower memory...

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v9.0 Build 8326 Beta on Mar 29, 2006

@Edu _SS
opera has no option to minimize to tray (as such), but shows a trayicon with informational purpose -when- the mailing feature is used, and this trayicon includes those minimize commands.

according to the changelog nothing has changed about the traybehavior

http://my.opera.com/desk...am/blog/show.dml/200577

these are not beta releases but weekly builds for hardcore fans who take risks. don't wine about bugs (not here, that is).

CHANGELOG

Fixed timestamp bug in Mail.
Fixed copy bug where space was inserted before special.characters.
Fixed bug where links from widgets opened in new window not tab.
Remember widgets independent of startup option.
Reloading open message when IMAP is checking.
Fixed bug where widget handler stole focus from opera when starting.
Script dialogs now have the option to stop scripts running on the current page, in order to prevent further dialogs from appearing.

Mac specific:
Startup crasher fixed.
CTRL+any key crash fixed.

Unix specific:
Widget handle can now be disabled.
Fixed plug-ins when libXft was not preloaded.

Edu_SS

Edu_SS reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 29, 2006

How can I set 'minimize to Tray' option in this version?

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 27, 2006

The best and fastest browser on earth! LOVE IT!

Changelog Build 8321 Beta:

New widget User interface:
Some of the new widget User interface is not yet available on Linux, UNIX, or Mac.
Widgets will not work on some Linux or UNIX installations, while work is being carried out on the new widget User interface.
Widget thumb is shown at the top of the screen, providing quick access to widgets (this can be removed using the settings button when viewing widgets).
Widgets are now displayed on a faded background.
Pinned widgets have their own tasks, and can be activated with Alt+Tab as with normal application windows.
Pinned widgets can be kept on top using the right-click menu.
New welcome mail to replace dialog when first creating a mail account.
History panel now uses localised time when grouping by date.
Optimised tooltip formatting to prevent long tooltips from causing Opera to become unresponsive.
Re-added gender setting to voice preferences.
Fix for display of toolbar button text.
Content blocker now collapses blocked iframes.
Improved handing of image changes through CSS :hover effects.
Shift+Enter in forms is no longer detected as an unwanted pop-up.
Support PUT method for XMLHttpRequest.
Fixed support for LSSerializer.writeToURI.
Improved support for HTML output in XSLT.

Windows specific:
MSI installer can now download the Windows Installer if it is not yet installed on the system.

And many other fixes!

Changelog Build 8303 Beta:

Tabbed browsing preferences have been moved to Preferences - Advanced - Tabs.
Fix for Shift+Click text selection.
Removed support for SGML comments in HTML. Comment parsing is now based on the Web Applications 1.0 draft.
Fix to allow object tags with an empty data attribute to load plug-ins.
Fix for loading PDF do** [ www.9down.com refused this word ] **ents in a plug-in via the POST method.
Implemented stepUp and stepDown for Web Forms 2.0 date inputs.
Added support for Audio, as described in the Web Applications 1.0 draft.
Images held only in memory using the Image() constructor now report the correct dimensions.
Added support for controlling plug-ins with site specific preferences.
Clicking a label for a checkbox now fires events for the associated input.
Formchange event is now fired when contents of the form are changed.
Several designMode improvements, including handling of queryCommandEnabled and queryCommandState, and converting multiple paragraphs into list items.
Added support for dynamically generated script tags in SVG.
Allowed animating of flood-color in SVG using animateColor.
Fix for mouse events in widgets.
Dragging a scrollbar in a widget no longer drags the widget.
Fixed handling of :hover over block elements.
Improved handling of whitespace around inline elements.
Fixed aligning of fonts on buttons.
Self closing tags no longer break layout.

siryak

siryak reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 26, 2006

I absolutely love this program it works great...but can anyone tell me how to make it use the newer version of windows media player? Because it is using a very old version.

Mark Gillespie

Mark Gillespie reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 26, 2006

Whilst the Opera brower is the best there is, this is not even beta, it's a weekly, and of variable quality. It may not work for you, it may crash, it may do other nasty things.

If you are looking to try Opera, use the stable version (currently v8.53), play with that, if you like the features of 9, try the test previews, or weeklies.

I would hate someone looking to evaluate Opera, stumbles on a weekly, and bases their opinion of it's stability on it.

pohlman

pohlman reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 26, 2006

The last few builds were a mess with Flash and many pages rendering poorly. I have yet to find a page that doesn't come up perfectly with this build so if you were turned off by a recent build, now's the time to try again!

The new ad/content blocking is brilliant and easy to use, so if you were one of the many who refused to try it because of no AdBlock plugin, this will also change your mind. I have nothing against Firefox (especially since the speed and resource problems seem to be getting fixed) but I don't think I'll be using it much anymore.

The best Opera yet.

hepman

hepman reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 26, 2006

I really like it!
It is much better than FF and IE.
Only thing I wait is plugins support, like FF have.

varsity

varsity reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

Now this is more like it! The problems with the last build are fixed in this one. This browser is making me forget about Firefox.

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

the best of the best.

- - -
Darken, what bugs are u talking about?

Darken

Darken reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

Many old bugs not fixed + bad support of RTE with many scripts. Opera dev's are focusing too much on widgets... 3/5

jimmyw85

jimmyw85 reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

To niti:

u may just set it in preference EASILY!!

Opera still the best and have a great market share after it became freeware than FF

if no IE6/7 in windows...it'll be the 1st
and the only choice!

niti

niti reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

It is good. The results of the installation:
-It does not create any opera shortcuts after installation.
- It accommodates itself with opera mail on the start menu without ask the user.

Wish:
-If only one can be open the search context in the new tab.

URAWMD

URAWMD reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

I dumped the fox for this, and it just keeps getting better.*****

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

The developers have made terrific progress with this browser over the past year. It is rendering pages near perfect as far as I can see, and I have always liked everything else about it.

Wirpo

Wirpo reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

This test version is more stable than most finished software...

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

Seems to be getting better and better. Less and less issues on pages and getting more stable overall. The new widgets implementation needs some polishing, but has a lot of potential.

@trebor:

right-click the sidebar > customize > toolbars tab > style > choose 'images only'

trebor

trebor reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

Superior interface compared to IE7 and Firefox. Solid as a rock alpha or beta!!!! Completely aside browsing, the IE7 print formatting is great, but that's why we're not browsing are we! Widgets, not spend time on them, but hope they will develop similar features like stock tickers, local weather tracking, streaming radio/tv, etch. etch.., in page spellchecking, stumbleupons and whatnot.....one negative....I continue to dislike the wide space the buttonbar on left takes....make it resizeable similar or optionally similar to what the All In One Sidebar extension for FFX has, icons only only.

In the very early days of Opera bought twice an upgrade....this is return on investment!!!!

plings

plings reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

mr_mr_007: What on earth is IDA?

orizng: Widgets are very useful, and they are just normal web pages anyway. Just because YOU don't use it doesn't mean that it's useless. Geez.

pjb: It is NOT a beta yet. That is made very clear. These aren't even previews, and Opera previews are ALPHA versions. Maybe it says beta because the next version is a beta, but these are similar to nightly Firefox builds. And surely you wouldn't claim that they are betas, now would you?

I don't think I'm even going to bother commenting on improvelence's review... He's obviously trolling.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

Wonderful to see this program progess... gets better for each build.

MoeRL

MoeRL reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 24, 2006

Banquo, these are official weekly releases, and are completely public. See the Opera Desktop Team Blog here: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/

Another great release of the best browser ever :)

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 24, 2006

I stand corrected. :) Anyway it's a great browser and getting better with each build. The options still seem a bit cluttered and confusing (or maybe it's just me) but overall I like it very much.

pjb

pjb reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 24, 2006

(Updated - plings; standing corrected). Opera is a good steady browser, progressing with every build.

orizng

orizng reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 24, 2006

I think Opera is getting better, but developer should be careful to make opera more effective, rather than adding useless stuff like widget. and yeah, stop bashing firefox, especially when it cant grab anything from ie for so many years. Its really absurd to watch some Opera Fans are so hostile to Firefox rather than trying to convert ppl from IE.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 24, 2006

@improvalence
You're just not credible. Anybody who tried the 3 know that you're just a stupid liar. The only one to compare with is SeaMonkey.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 24, 2006

I just cant get into Opera no matter how much I try. Doesnt have that much needed feel over IE like Firefox does and it's a little slower than the two. I know a bunch of Opera losers are going to slam me and tell me how many things opera had before FF so dont bother...I dont care.

To add to what this guy "claims"
@improvalence
You're just not credible. Anybody who tried the 3 know that you're just a stupid liar. The only one to compare with is SeaMonkey.

Seamonkey is nice, but I didnt say anything except that Opera is a little slower...I have all 4 on my system because I am a web designer and need to see how things pan out...so your " you're just a stupid liar" comment shows exactly what you are....an opera user.

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.0 Build 8321 Beta on Mar 24, 2006

Opera 9 is not beta yet, when will the BETANEWS IDIOTS get this?

Always mislabel software. argh.

mr_mr_007

mr_mr_007 reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 24, 2006

Sory boys and girls but Opera 8 was beter then 9.
It get one poit less because it does not work on all Computers, and it does not work with IDA.
But still god beacouse sometimes you want a separate downloader, if IDA does not work.
So 4 out of 5 becouse it doe not work on al coputers.

Wirpo

Wirpo reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 23, 2006

Yeah! Fixes one of my long standing issues :D

plings

plings reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 23, 2006

More stable than most final browsers...

By the way, why does this site say BETA? Opera 9.0 is at the ALPHA stage!

jcollake

jcollake reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 22, 2006

These are weekly beta builds of Opera, not even public betas, so that is the reason they are buggy. I recommend not downloading them, as they are developer snapshots instead of proper releases. I've had assorted troubles with each build since 9.0 technical preview 2 beta.

varsity

varsity reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 22, 2006

Same issue as the two reviewers below and also the same issue with TSN.ca I went to report it but the latest available release http://www.opera.com/support/bugs/ takes you to 8.53, and not this beta. Do they not want Beta related bugs reported?

If Opera developers can work out these bugs and a few others, it will be an awesome browser.

J-PJ

J-PJ reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 21, 2006

Noticed same what bendingspoons said. And when clickng QuickSearch box the text wont be selected as earlier versions. Now have to double click. Small rhing but annoying.

Btw. bendingspoons what program did you use to save "flash screenshot"?

bendingspoons

bendingspoons reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 21, 2006

Love Opera,but this is a really bad build.
I couldn't even click on the fileforum links
on betanews with this build...
Screenscast(flash;about 300kb)
http://svslinks.googlepages.com/betanews.html
Another cosmetic bug i reported to them
http://svslinks.googlepages.com/Opera.html

Terryphi

Terryphi reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 21, 2006

Avoid this build if you are running on Win98 or WinME. The MS installer is not compatible with these versions of Windows.

Opera developers have really fouled up on this build. See Opera beta forum and opera.beta newsgroup for the reaction of longstanding Opera users.
LATER: Build 8303 is now available without MS installer. Opera devs have listened to their loyal users. See http://my.opera.com/desk...am/blog/show.dml/187723 for link to build with classic installer.

rpavl

rpavl reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 20, 2006

Best of the best.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 20, 2006

Okay Opera is not perfect but there is so much to like about it. The page rendering has improved somewhat, even if it isn't on par with IE or Firefox. The interface is slick - the best of any current browser - fast browsing speeds and plenty of options to customize a very comprehensive browser to one's individual tastes. I love the option to quickly setup preferences for individual sites via Tools->Quick preferences->Site preferences.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 20, 2006

If you find a site that is written so that Opera can't access it, let Opera know in the Opera Community Forum. They can't fix things they don't know about. It might not be a bad idea to let the webmaster of the offending site know that something's wrong with his code, too. ;)

Opera is by far the fastest and best browser around.

ZombieREA

ZombieREA reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 20, 2006

Still dislay error for myself.
Site: http://ogame.org when check in Inbox Msg ! :(

I hope Opera Developer will fix it in Final Version

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 20, 2006

It now renders all my sites perfectly with exception of 1, 5/5.

I just wish opera had it's own software-integrated bugzilla-type utility.

Marcinneekk23

Marcinneekk23 reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 20, 2006

Why?? It`s great browser :-)

sQin

sQin reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 20, 2006

i hate the MSI installer, but the latest opera is great

nant`

nant` reviewed v9.0 Build 8303 Beta on Mar 20, 2006

A note to those who download build 8303, there is a bug with :hover, so no complaints. :)

Also, this is the first version of Opera using an MSI installer for the Widows version, so there are some issues, hopefully will be fixed in the next weekly release.

Personally, I had hoped they'll switch to NSIS...

princeofpentacles

princeofpentacles reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 18, 2006

The best browser out there

jp122182

jp122182 reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 14, 2006

fast browser, but won't dl certain files

rafikk

rafikk reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 13, 2006

I'm personally quite happy with latest builds.
Few important problems fixed, better shortcuts (CTL D for bookmark), and ACID 2 test is finally passed :)

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 12, 2006

Agree w/ Diam0nd. Methinks Stisev's system (Quote: As a an self-proclaimed Opera fanboy, I urge you all **NOT** to use the latest betas)must be 1nf3ct3d with porno malware: I've'd ZERO issues with all v9 builds on 9x,ME,XP,Ubuntu4/5/6! (btw, was that as a self, as an elf, as an efin-pro, a** an, Hassan, sans self, saint Elmo?) I'd recommend to confirm this by testing on a different system, or on a new hard disk or empty partition w/ newly-installed OS.. buona fortuna, caro.

I do hope though, that eventually, interfacing at music sites like Aol archive, Artistdirect, etc. becomes a reality. I don't really hold this against Opera, even though all the Moz browsers work fine at those two sites(meaning audio & video clips there can't be played on Opera)....as there are still sites that work with IE Only & No Other Browser, not even any of the ie engine variants like Maxthon, etc.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 12, 2006

Excellent. No crashes with the latest build.

Btw, for those crying about instability, PLEASE, WAKE UP! This is BETAnews, not FinalNews, OK? Those BETAs are SUPPOSED to be unstable, because they are meant for testing, so please stop crying, because this is getting rediculous.

5/5. Opera > *

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 12, 2006

A new verion with REAL improvements each friday... Please, tell me about another browser like that...

mdew

mdew reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 12, 2006

seems pretty sad mastertech needs to troll everywhere he goes.

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 11, 2006

As a an self-proclaimed Opera fanboy, I urge you all **NOT** to use the latest betas

ZombieREA

ZombieREA reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 11, 2006

I love Opera..but dunt know why from version: o90w_8246.exe until this time. I had wrong dislay when load OGame.org in message page.

Have anyone got this wrong dislay ?

Wirpo

Wirpo reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 11, 2006

Wow, the Firefox fanboys are giving Opera a low rating just because Mastertech gives it a high rating. Typical.

This is a better site than Mastertech's anyway:

http://www.slyerfox.com/

niti

niti reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 11, 2006

Much better from the former beta release.

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 11, 2006

All this browser bashing is sooo redicioulous. Firefox sucks! Uh, no, Opera sucks! No, your mama sucks! It's annoying. Get a life, geeks. And by the way, this weekly build has some issues which make me rate it 3. Opera itself is a clear 5.

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 11, 2006

Being a staunch supporter of firefox for years,i would admit this version of opera is far superior than any other browser available till date....
The new features which seem to flow in every now and then...makes it special...
It also make me wonder what firefox has achieved in good 2 yrs??
It has got same features which opera had in 7! two years ago..
sorry,but with all great features and e-mail client,i dont think anybody comes close!

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 10, 2006

Would get a 5 if it rendered better, but it really is improving alot!

The resource usage, customizability, simplicity, features set this above.

It's almost up there with Seamonkey; it has bittorent, email client, and a great browser!

plings

plings reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 10, 2006

"Scrolling the page of the result of the acid2 test removes the top of the smiley face as well as moves an additional black line underneath the 'scalp.' And this is simply scrolling with the wheel."

That's what's EXPECTED. Acid2 isn't supposed to be scrolled.

Opera passes Acid2, and that's that.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 10, 2006

So far so good, a relief after the build 8246 regression. A must-try.

Shadowkahn

Shadowkahn reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 10, 2006

I'm not too sure about the fact that this passes the acid2 test. Scrolling the page of the result of the acid2 test removes the top of the smiley face as well as moves an additional black line underneath the 'scalp.' And this is simply scrolling with the wheel. Other than that, this has always been a wonderful browser - these builds still have a few bugs in them, a couple of the flash pages I visit seem to be missing layers - could be a flash plugin issue with the Opera build though. All in all very promising.

bggoth

bggoth reviewed v9.0 Build 8265 Beta on Mar 10, 2006

@mdew:
That wasnt even a real comment on the program. ):
As for ALPHA version I give it 5.

shagger1

shagger1 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 7, 2006

Unusual browser-very high learning curve but works well-I still like IE based browsers better but a lot of people love this browser-worth a try as it ununstalls cleanly.

plings

plings reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 7, 2006

Maybe if people didn't come across as trolls, they wouldn't be attacked. Constructive criticism is great. Trolling is not.

Metshrine's latest review is level-headed enough, apart from the obvious trolling and baiting, insulting people for responding to trolling. I know, one should ignore trolls, but trolls do exactly that: Post stuff to get people worked up.

And as a matter of fact, ModderXManiac, Opera supports Shockwave, and also "extensions":

http://virtuelvis.com/ar...-and-firefox-extensions
http://virtuelvis.com/ar...d-firefox-extensions-ii

eblade

eblade reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 7, 2006

BEFORE using this, you need to read the release notes page.

The Opera weekly builds are NOT BETA builds, these are ALPHA.

the artist

the artist reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 6, 2006

it's true that this version is very unstable, but it is still a BETA! if you want a stable release get the latest from the official site. i hate those lame idiots who don't seem to realise that and then say that they will stick to FF or even IE!

this is for sure the very best browser available.

man, each one to his own...

jth

jth reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 6, 2006

Small, fast to start; tabbed browsing with small memory footprint. Effecient keyboard shortcuts ("Z" for back one page, "X" for forward). Simple mouse controls for faster browsing and stable! Not all pages can be opened - some sites still require IE.

Some 3rd party extensions are availble (RC URL). Handles RSS simply. Email client and newsreader are a little clunky and are not my preferred option.

Overall, my favourite browser.

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 5, 2006

It's a problem that Betanews categorizes every single build under one when it comes to ratings. That means that a buggy technical preview/weekly build (like this -it isn't a beta) affects the rating of Opera in general.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 5, 2006

i tried the final build they have on there homepage..man, i was impressed at first, then i realized that i could never get used to that browser :-( it seems cool, i especially loved the mouse ball to move back and forth ...ya cool stuff, but since i'm used to IE7/Firefox i wont change over.

It didnt run great on my machine seem 2 crash once in ablue...unlike my FF which on my machine..only crashed when i force it to crash LOL

niti

niti reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 4, 2006

I love 2 browsers: Opera and Firefox. I cannot be without them :) But I agree with jspratjr.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 4, 2006

Agree with others - GREAT review Metshrine. I too use Opera as my default (have been for years) and have "mentioned" on the Opera support forum items I thought needed to be changed only to be verbally assaulted for having the audacity to express my opinion :-).

This build is not for everyday use (unless of course you don't visit sites that use flash) as according to the Opera Desktop Team (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/):

WARNING: This build will frequently crash when using Flash.

I love Opera, always have for all of the reasons Metshrine mentioned but I'll pass on this build and rate it accordingly (we are supposed to rate the BUILD and not the overall browser performance - correct? As for the browser, a 10 out of 5 :-)

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 4, 2006

Opera is a great browser, however, most of the user/fan base behind opera act just like the user base behind firefox. They are fan boys and tend to insult a user who posts something negative about the browser due to their own experiences or thoughts about how it should work. NOT EVERYONE will ever agree with anyone else on how a browser should work, hence why we have reviews. I've seen numerous users, myself included, flamed for posting their thoughts on how the browser should work and what we feel are its shortcomings. The user Yogurth below, flamed me for mentioning the lack of a rename function in the manage bookmarks function, requiring you to go to the properties window to rename it (an unneeded click). This feature is standard in every other browser. Many users fail to realize that not everyone will think the way they do about something. Its called being objective and fileforum, and various other forums/review sites where these fan boys roam, are plagued by these people that bring a bad name to their favorite browser or piece of software by insulting other users that dont agree with them.

Up until just recently, I used firefox as my default browser. Opera is now my default browser since I grew tired of crashes and unnecessarily high memory usage that firefox had. Firefox gave me what I wanted at the time, but again, i grew tired of its endless bugs. The primary reason I wouldnt use opera was, A. Rendering issues (requiring you to force a refresh on many pages, or some pages that just plain wouldnt render), b. Lack of 3rd party support (not necessarily extensions, but allowing 3rd party software to interact with the browser (such as roboform, or various other toolbars that many users have grown accustom to), and C. The fact that opera has identified, by default, as IE.

the only issue above that has been resolved is my C issue. Issue B is frowned upon by many of the opera users because they claim that 3rd party support would decrease the security. Also, many users claim that any needed 3rd party support programs are already included in opera. I've made arguments many times that the functionality that could be added by 3rd party programmers that dedicate a program to a specific task usually outperforms in many aspects the way the function in opera works. In my experience with opera, the devs tend to impliment a feature, get only the BASIC FUNCTIONALITY working, and then let it sit. An example, the wand, as stated in my past reviews. The wand fails to recognize passwords on many sites. The wand also doesnt give you an option to update a password that has changed when you type in a new one on the same site. You also lack the ability to edit your passwords (again, the claim of a security issue is made). Editing passwords is a basic function. If the requirement is made that a master password is setup, then the security issues lies with the user. If the user doesnt come up with a decent password, then its on them I would say. Issue A has also failed to be resolved and will probably take some time since, instead of identifying as opera, the browser ID'd as IE for a very long time by default. Rather than ID'ing as opera and fixing pages that are broken, they chose to ID as IE, which many users wouldnt change, and left a good number of potential reports of broken sites go unreported because of this.

Now, dont get me wrong. Opera is by far my favorite browser, but the developers really need a few things. A. the support for third party software (not necessarily extensions, but a way for programs to interact with webpages inside the opera browser, or interact with the browser itself, to provide functionality the developers dont deem as "necessary to incorporate in the core code"). Even if the list is opera approved 3rd parties only, that would still be a start so they dont feel the need to impliment a feature in its most basic form, and then let it stagnate. B. A better reporting system for broken sites. C. A better bug reporting system (sort of like mozilla's bugzilla tracking system).

But like I said, opera is by far close to being the most advanced browser. It is light on memory, fast (startup times are 1/8th that of firefox and almost equivelant to IE disproving the myth of firefox that it cant load as fast because IE pre-loads with the OS), and it has MANY (nowhere near all) of the features that most require. However, since it still has these flaws, as well as those mentioned in every one of my past reviews, I have to rate this a 3/5.
Just because a piece of software is good, doesnt mean it deserves an immediate 5/5.

TO PLINGS

Are you saying I am trying to troll here myself? I post flaws of the browser, not a glowing review just because a piece of software is "good" or "the best". I post truthfully, and not the typical "This program ROXORS YOUR BOXORS" review. I am just sick of users that insult others for posting their thoughts on a piece of software. Your review, the links you post, are not "extensions". Opera does NOT support extensions, and according to the developers, it wont. Extensions allow you to tie in third party code to the browser to perform a function that the browser lacks functionalitywise. Opera doesnt offer this capability as it is CLOSED TO THIRD PARTIES.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 4, 2006

This sort of permanent argument between Opera and FF is tiring. Try both, as I did, and you'll see that the choice is easy. I am not saying that FF is bad, but extensions are an issue. Some argue that Opera lacks extensions but all features of FF are already integrated. Extensions are actually a real issue for FF. They are not updated on the same calendar that FF so that some of them become incompatible when a new build is released. Anyway in a couple of months, lanscape will change with the release of IE7.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 4, 2006

Opera is the Bugatti Veyron of Internet browsers...

...but free!

osric

osric reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 4, 2006

Nice review Metshrine!!! =D>

Looks like the bottom line is - Try out both Opera & FF, use what suits you and stop arguing which is better.

Daddy_Spank

Daddy_Spank reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 3, 2006

For a TP, this is a great release, and i am eagerly awaiting the final version. Rendering issues and site compatibility, especially with sites like Gmail is the biggest issue, and I hope Opera puts pressure on those things.

Kramy

Kramy reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 3, 2006

Oh my god, not another FirefoxMyths fanboy! Let it die - FirefoxMyths got owned; everything was disproven by multiple people, and the author proven a spammer with over a dozen aliases.

Flash issues... :/

Perth, Australia

Perth, Australia reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 3, 2006

this may help some users;
http://internetweek.cmp....Id=180203262&pgno=1

personally i've gone back to 8238 build as the current does state and it does fault on flash items. flash works fine for build 8238. i verified this when ordering domino's pizza online; https://internetorder.do.../estore/home/estore.asp which is flash driven

Dennis87

Dennis87 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 3, 2006

It's the fastest browser i have tried, and i have tried them all:P

Some crash bugs in the beta versions but its beta, 8.0 version is 100% stable

michael83815

michael83815 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 3, 2006

You have been calling Opera 9 builds betas. but they are not beta they are Technical Previews. They are not at the beta stage yet...

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 3, 2006

WARNING: This build will frequently crash when using Flash.
This weekly build has some issues with Flash so we advice you do disable plugins if you want to use it.
Changelog:
-Fix to make e-mail and news items display correctly when they are selected.
-Improved BitTorrent disk cache.
-DCC file transfers now displayed as a link in a private chat window.
-Added support for onmousewheel events.
-Fix for canvas gradients and blur.
-Improved behavior of offsetParent, offsetTop, and offsetLeft.
-Script events now report correct keyCode for insert, delete, home, end, pause/break, scroll lock and num lock keys.
-Added support for element.cssText.
-Allowed self closing SCRIPT tags in HTML documents.
-Fix for SRC attribute in atom feed summaries.
-Allowed FTP downloading of files whose names contain colons ':'.
-Experimental fix to allow downloading of files larger than 4GB.
-Added [Network] Enable NTLM setting to toggle NTLM support.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 3, 2006

Too many rendering flaws to provide a desirable browsing experience, no plugins, and the interface doesn't have the customizabilitiy Firefox provides.

For it's security, easy OS integration, and for the sake of it being the first browser on my DS; it's saved from a score of 2 from me.

*edit* no shockwave support.

GimieGimieGimie

GimieGimieGimie reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8246 on Mar 3, 2006

I thought i'd try out the new Opera in hopes that they added multiple home page support, but i just installed it to a seperate directory to my Opera v8.52, opened it and i see very little new, is this because i have to uninstall v8.52 first?

Am i doing something wrong here?

eblade

eblade reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8238 on Feb 26, 2006

allan0r: sounds like you've got problems non-browser related. TP2 was fairly unstable, but the newer weekly releases are much more stable. The description of your problems sounds like you are using early v8 TP releases.

Opera is just plain the best web browser there is, IMO. Add a dozen extensions to Firefox to end up with an extremely bloated Opera.

The Content Blocker improvements to this build of Opera nearly make it as good as FF AdBlock extension, and now I don't think there is -any- reason whatsoever to not use Opera.

What is FlashGot?

Yogurth

Yogurth reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8238 on Feb 25, 2006

Yes there is flashgot like addon for opera, here:

http://my.opera.com/comm...rums/topic.dml?id=90198

, but tell me how ridicolous is writing a review or scoring a browser that You havent even tried?

And people rating browser low cause it's feature isn't working as they would like it(*hint rename)?? Haha.

These are test builds, and it's quite normal that they are buggy or unstable (as was for me b8225), however new 3228 is uncrashable in ~30 hours of usage for me. Opera is still no1., even in this early development it's still more stable than for instance Firefox final builds.

3228 has upgraded Content Blocker, which allows the review of blocked content for something that You wish to unblock in later time. Very Nice.

allan0r

allan0r reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8238 on Feb 25, 2006

Used this browser for long time now and it has been 1 of the best. Up until they started releasing the newer versions. It just keeps crashing and getting errors on my machine. Also it will not load gmail, i can login but the main page just doesnt load. So now i'm back using firefox.
Hopefully the final build will solve these problems and so i'll wait for that.

osric

osric reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8238 on Feb 25, 2006

Is there an equivalent of Flashgot available for this browser? If there is then I might consider trying this out. The trash can is good.

Zygi

Zygi reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8238 on Feb 24, 2006

Best browser on earth right now. I was using FF but after setting it to have similar functionality as opera, it turned to resource hog. Yes i know adblock is great, flashgot is damn good but still opera is lot faster. Only one thing isn't still changed, i can't see my password in wand manager. I heard they don't do it, because of security reasons... Say what ?!? What it have to do with security, because right now if someone knows my master password, he can steal my passwords anyway, he can use custom button to show passwords at login site, or press wand, esc and use some asterisk revealing program (Revelation for example). It's done great in FF, why can't it be like this in Opera ??? Only 4/5 for that small but rather problematic annoyance.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8238 on Feb 24, 2006

Geeze, for some reason I keep reverting to Firefox - Again! Could it be that Opera still breaks pages? Yeah, that's it. Though not at the rate it once did, it's still enough to be annoying.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8238 on Feb 24, 2006

All platforms changes:
Default mode for cycling tabs with Ctrl+Tab without popup window is now visible tab order.
Added quotes to paths in opera:config to prevent path corruption - opera:config can now be used again.
In content blocking mode, clicking an image or plug-in shows all other content that matches the filter.
Content blocker shows previously blocked content when entering content blocking mode.
Content blocker filters are no longer case sensitive.
Leaving content blocking mode removes all content that matches the new filters, including pages in inline frames.
Improved blocking of plug-in content when an object tag is used without an embed tag.
Improved display of content blocker toolbar.
Reduced delay for thumbnail tooltips.
Added disk caching for BitTorrent to improve speed.
Moved site preferences to Preferences - Advanced - Content.
DCC chat now respects the nosave and nodownload switches in kiosk mode.
Improved handling of removed elements in Web Forms 2.0 repetition.
Added support for stepping in time inputs.
Fixed a crash when hiding plugins with display:none;
General stability fixes

Mac specific changes:
Intel Macs now work
Java updated to 1.4x/1.5x for PPC
Java introduced for Intel (1.4x/1.5x)

Unix specific changes:
Fix on Ctrl+Tab "Cycle without showing list"
File input/upload location now remembered
Improved window manager session management

Known issues:
Mail doesn't show until window is resized
Sometimes dialogs show up empty on Mac

That said, I have another annoyance to be included with my reviews below. With managing bookmarks, there is no way to right click and RENAME a bookmark from the bookmark manager (Again, this would be ideally done by right clicking the bookmark directly from the bookmarks menu itself rather than having to manage bookmarks, but opera doesnt seem to agree). You have to right click it, choose properties and then rename. Just another extra step that shouldnt be required. A simple context menu item for RENAME should suffice but is lacking.

The browser is the best available, but it is far from being the most customizable, as explained in my reviews below. It is fast, light on memory, and renders MOST pages properly (There is still the very common occurrence where you HAVE to refresh to get pages to display properly, as the initial rendering doesnt display properly). But, as I said, the minor annoyances prevent me from rating this as it deserves.

3/5 for me

YOGURTH: A review is a persons opinion on a program. And if a feature doesnt work the way a user likes, why shouldnt they rate it lower? Please tell me YOUR definition of a review. Just because someone doesnt share your glowing thoughts on something doesnt mean they are wrong. If you read my past reviews, you would see plenty more reasons for my rating. Also, why dont you try getting the build number right ;-)

VikingBlade

VikingBlade reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8238 on Feb 24, 2006

As for "No google toolbar? no google suggest? no skins?"

True, no google toolbar, though what exactly do you need from it?

You can use Google Suggest with Opera.

Opera has had skins for a long time, and has a better implementation at that.

gawd21

gawd21 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8238 on Feb 24, 2006

Still no user supported extensions. Not worth using, even IE has user supported extension.

jcollake

jcollake reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8238 on Feb 24, 2006

Opera's is the best browser. Period. Its image, font, and HTML rendering somehow makes everything look better. Its quite amazing.

This build seems to improve GMail support, though its still not perfect.

However, this build breaks the lower panel in the RSS Feeder (its perpetually empty). Its near unusable for me.

I'm looking forward to v9 final. I need GMail support, but I'm tired of these v9 betas breaking stuff, so I guess I'll have to wait for the final.

xdeimox

xdeimox reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 22, 2006

I love opera, but this beta build is rather unstable for me at the moment. Back to the previous beta for the time being.

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 22, 2006

Its fast, thats why I give it 2 out of 5.
But...
No google toolbar? no google suggest? no skins?
No thanks.
I stick with Firefox with those few bugs it has.

ZombieREA

ZombieREA reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 21, 2006

Gru....gr... I dunt know why. Look like this is ugly version. How can beliv, this ver let's me crash many time ...

But..Now i can't back to ver 8.x because i like some shortcut in ver 9 and my wand password look like can't use with version 8.

I hope Opera will be release new version soon as possible.

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 19, 2006

The only true innovative competition for Mozilla is Opera and they seem to have done a good job with 9.0. There are a few feature changes, like the Ad-Blocker, but beside the widgets feature, I don't think i've fully scratched the surface. I'm actually quite confused about the usefulness of widgets because they seem like a poor excuse for 'extensions', but someone can come along and prove me wrong.

Opera is more responsive than Firefox, but not nearly as dependable due to the fact Gecko is a reliable rendering engine because of it's popularity. Not an Opera fault. I like how Opera handles tabs with it's own specific options and such. But when It comes down to it...the UI is confusing for me, and i've gotten used to how FF works. Opera is getting better, but not enough for me to switch. Especially with FF 2.0 approaching the horizon.

minklein

minklein reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 18, 2006

If it won't render my home page then what use is it? (SBC.Yahoo)It does look nice and may have some potential but it appears to be lacking right at the moment.

faja

faja reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 18, 2006

Great browser, getting a lot better in my opinion. Just one problem, ad blocking makes pages look ugly without blocking the frame itself as well. Only reason I'll stick with Firefox until they get that last bit working. It'll be worth that extra star if I see that in 9.0 Final :)

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 18, 2006

This build is a bit unstable. Had it shut down a coupla times. BUT, its still the best browser around, imho. THUMBS UP.

PC Rat

PC Rat reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 18, 2006

...

For functionality and ease-of-use, Opera can't be beat.

Page-rendering only rarely an issue.

...

The Computer Rodent

...

cool_guy

cool_guy reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 18, 2006

It's good but could be better. Yes I give it five but it really deserves four. Some pages just won't display correctly. I don't know if it's the fault of the browser or the pages not being coded correctly according with the standards.

LeXTeRiTY_X

LeXTeRiTY_X reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 18, 2006

I have noticed that it is slowly becoming better at rendering pages. By a long distance, Firefox and IE do render pages properly, but for the performance improvement, I would rather grind my teeth and use the "Help -> Report a problem site..." menu item whenever I can.

Sure, I don't have to put up with it. I "could" use Firefox and see the internet how it's mean to, but that's just my choice. I would rather support a browser with potential than something that slows my system down.

And *NO*, I don't need to get a newer computer. A program running slowly on an older system is a display of poor programming, not a slower computer. Opera runs fine even on a 166Mhz / 64MB RAM system.

It deserves 5 stars for features that other browsers don't have. But, don't get me wrong here, I don't hate Firefox at all. I've even rated Firefox 5 stars aswell.

They probably don't deserve it, but if I can't rate applications by their current state, I'll give them a mark for potential.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 17, 2006

**EDIT**

Never mind. As usual, I've gone back to Firefox. The page rendering of Opera is still just too much of an issue. If only Opera developers can fix this ongoing issue, it will be the best browser available. It's still a close second to Firefox.

Up until now, I've been disappointed with the rendering ability of this browser. It used to break so many pages, but now that is rarely the case. That improvement aside, it still is the slickest looking browser on the panet and a pleasure to use. The tab functionality has always been a huge plus for me and it still delivers big time. The browsing speed has a definite edge over Firefox as well. I believe this version of Opera has officially bumped Firefox to number 2 on my favourite browser list.

kl00

kl00 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 17, 2006

I've only used the beta a little, but I've always been impressed with Opera, aside from some rendering quirkiness. And the email client is funky and takes some getting used to, but is great really, considering its small size. Another point: Opera developers could teach some of the Mozilla guys a thing or two about making a browser that handles caching well. I'll be looking forward to Opera 9 final.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 17, 2006

And yet again, modder resorts to insulting other users based on their opinions. Yes, opera is very customizable, but it is not customizable in ways that are standard to 90% of applications used today. You cant move toolbars, you are required to remove buttons and re-add the ones you want. You cant place the address bar (navigation bar) above the tab bar without going through a long process of removing and adding buttons and unhiding toolbars.

Opera:Config, a feature NOT EXCLUSIVE to opera. I am sick of seeing opera users clammoring over every feature firefox uses that opera implimented first, so I had to point this out. Firefox had this WELL before opera. Point of this rant? It doesnt matter who impliments a feature first, its about who impliments it best. Opera did a good job on their implimentation, I like it, but there should be more options than what is available. Anything configurable in firefox's pref's dialog, is accessible in about:config, the same should hold true here.

Opera still fails to allow third party developers to incorporate their code into opera in the form of toolbars, addins, or even more detailed plugins. This is a necessary feature, I feel, because then a 3rd party dev can add functionality to opera that the opera developers dont feel is necessary. Again, plugins/extensions are a system implimented in many many applications, its nothing new. Yes, security seems to be the reason they dont do it, but if opera is the approving authority on when an addin/plugin gets added, then we can trust their QA judgements. They've done well thus far havent they? Opera dev's seem to have a policy of implimenting a feature, and once its done, leaving it to stagnate. Take the wand. This feature could have easily been expanded and developed further, bugs fixed, but none of this has been done. Bookmarks still are not able to be right clicked to manage/move/delete them as is capable in every other browser available. You cant edit passwords stored in the wand, because of the security claim again. Security is all well and good, but when you let it force you to not impliment a standard feature such as editing a stored password, I am sorry, but that is plain silly.

All these rants are not my whole point. Opera is a fine browser, and with TP2, its my default. It is far faster than firefox and uses far less memory. I dont want everyone to think that I am bad mouthing opera because I am a fanboy of some other browser, I just dont like users who are fans of a piece of software and cant point out its shortcomings, or insult those who do (ModderXManiac). I try to take a neutral perspective when I rate anything, including software, and I wish that other users would do the same and respect the opinions of others. Just because someone DOESNT SHARE YOUR SAME VIEW ON SOMETHING, DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE AN IDIOT, and any such assumption shows how lacking and uneducated a person truely is. Now, I can expect at least one post against me flaming me for my thoughts and opinions.

Kramy

Kramy reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 17, 2006

Ehh....I gave it a 5 ModderXManiac. Why the flaming?

No intelligent Firefox fanboy would say Firefox is more secure than Opera. No intelligent Opera fanboy would say Opera is more customizable than Firefox.

It may be *easier* to customize Opera, but you also hit its limits faster.

I really love how Mozilla Seamonkey starts in 4s on a 333mhz IBM Thinkpad 390e w/256mb mem!

...Oh, and wasn't Opera picked for the DS because they took the time to make a dual-screen Opera, and because they have pre-processing tech?

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 17, 2006

Hey fellow Opera fans, want absolute control over Opera, including making it faster than Fireferret on Fasterfox?

I heard a yes. all you need to do is type opera:config in the address bar, and you will open a huuge array of options. You can disable bittorent, modify security, etc.

To make it faster, obviously you will go to performance, and turn up the # of Max Connections to server and whatever else # seems helpful. I'd recommend going no higher than changing it to 30 connections, as anything higher will certainly increase webserver load.

opera:config is an new feature introduced with Opera 9, it's quite similar to what Firefox has had for awhile, only it's cleaner looking and more comprehensive.

This is the most secure browser, period. NOT Firefox...Firefox is NOT the most secure. Also this uses faaar less memory and resources for rendering and tabs. For the last time n00bs, Firefox is NOOOOT as secure as this.

Also, the interface is incredibly customizeable, it just seems you guys have no clue what you're talking about, as in most cases people hardly even LOOK in the preferences and appearance menu's.

This has stability, rendering, customizeability, security, and flexibility that Firefox NEVER will. This browser was chosen to be put on the Nintendo DS for crying out loud!

Me, I use Maxthon in realization that it's just a frontend, but this is by no doubt the highest quality independent browser available.

Get your facts straight and embrace your curiosity about this product, learn it, before giving it a bad rating.

anthfiat

anthfiat reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 17, 2006

This is now my default browser. Version 9 is amazing.

RWW

RWW reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 17, 2006

I agree...only drawback is that it is slow to load. Have used 9 since it was first available and it did stop the "freezing" problem I had.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 17, 2006

Wrong section to post this in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. This should follow the v9 beta already started!!!!!!!!!

2. v8.5x is a totally different beast. Though i will say one thing-- v9 is so stable that i removed 8.5.

This is the fastest-browsing Opera version yet, BUT the slowest to initially load.
Come on kids, in unison,"How slow is it?"
Well, to answer your clamoring query-- it is so slow, that by the time it starts up, your sis-err, it makes FF look zippy by comparison!!

forgie

forgie reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8225 on Feb 17, 2006

dirt slow on my PC compared to Firefox and IE. Not a clue why.

UTAKER

UTAKER reviewed v8.52 on Feb 17, 2006

excellent but *right click in the bookmarks should work, you know, its hard to goto manage bookmarks to edit etc

Kramy

Kramy reviewed v8.52 on Feb 17, 2006

Don't like the lack of customizability. It allows you to do *some* things, but my tastes of where things go are different than most people's. Last I checked it couldn't turn a panel into a toolbar, but I haven't tried 8.52 explicitely, so it could have changed since I installed it.

Stable.

NurEinTier

NurEinTier reviewed v8.52 on Feb 17, 2006

Several browsers are exellent but one is more exellent than others...Opera!
Try it.
Tweak it.
Cons:
a bit of a learning curve.
some sites will not work.

The upcoming 9.0 is even better (adblocker).

josejosefo

josejosefo reviewed v8.52 on Feb 17, 2006

The fact that it doesn't support SOCKS yet make it impossible to toy with several anonymous communication systems that need this feature.
Apart from that I find it useful but I am stuck to Firefox which I find more customizable than Opera.

some guy

some guy reviewed v8.52 on Feb 17, 2006

use to be a big fire fox fan but I like Opera better
1 speed page loads+ opens faster
2 dosn't crash on a windows embed video
3 small foot print on sys
4 love the note option in tools great for copy paste text.

the only thing I have had a problem with is some fourm buttons are non clickable?

RWW

RWW reviewed v8.52 on Feb 17, 2006

Opera has been my default browser for about two years. Started using it as a secondary a long time ago, it is one of the first softwares I actually paid for.
It has really grown since 7....that is when I really noticed exactly how much better it had become.
I have set it up for many people and become irritated when people find it takes a few brains to use it and they stick with IE.
It's a great browser and I find new things about its customization all the time.

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 17, 2006

Latest stable version (8.52) fixes the last vulnerability (Secunia.com) & Gmail, rendering problem.
The best browser...

net_junkie

net_junkie reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

With the release of 9.0 I've officially left Firefox. I actually never thought I would. I have tried Opera in the past, and was impressed by the speed and integretion, but I like my browser set up in a certain way. In the past, I always had trouble setting up Opera.

Now Opera supports skins, differant configuations, widgets, etc. If you go to the "Community" of Opera, you will find alot of differant setups, skins, etc.

To get the tool bars the way I like, I turn off what I don't use, the I downloaded "My Vista" under "Toolbars" on the Opera Setups area of the Community page. For a skin, I use...WinVista.

It also FINALLY has Ad-blocking, which of course is a necessity now.

Try it again like I did. I'm happy I did.

Blackhole8746

Blackhole8746 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

I'm impressed, truly... A browser that kind o' smiles at you when you use it, lots of features, nice and fast...

twosheds

twosheds reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

This has gotten a lot better in the last 8-9 months, and much more standards-compliant too. As a web-developer I am far too addicted to Firefox Extension tools such as the incredible Web Developer toolbar, but this is a faster Browser than my installation of Firefox. On the other hand, Firefox is only slower than this because I have added extensions to completely customise the web, which I absolutely love and I'll sacrifice a miniscule amount of response time for that; I cannot do that to anywhere near the same extent with Opera.

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

I used FF over 1 year and I tried Opera 8.51 last 2 months, now Opera is my default browser. It IS faster then FF and I dont care what you say. I recomended Opera for 5 of my friends and now they also changed fron FF to Opera.

I have not tried 9.0 and I thing I will wait for the final version, but I dont think I will go back to FF, will see what FF 2.0 have to offer.

Opera: 5
Firefox: 4.8

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

This is looking to be the best Opera release yet. It does load pages faster than Firefox and uses less CPU and Memory. The interface is, as usual, very pleasing as well. Haven't yet seen any pages break either. I'll try it out for a little while longer before I decide whether it or FF is my default browser of choice. I've always gone back to FF after trying every previous release of Opera.

Not sure why anyone would flame Metshrine. His reviews are consistantly some of the best and most comprehensive I've seen.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

And again, the fan boys come out to flame someone for posting a negative review. I am sorry, but I've noticed with any application you have those groups of people that cannot stand ANY negative statements being made, they cant respect another persons opinions and have to put in their two cents.

Opera is a very very fast browser. Until 9.0tp2, it wasnt my default, but now I am glad to say it is and has replaced firefox. But just because it is my default doesnt mean that it is perfect. It is far from it. The user below, which is now getting flamed, is absolutely right. Standard windows API functions have yet to be implimented in the WINDOWS VERSION of this app. I respect they want it to remain cross platform, but I know that dragging of toolbars into a position that is appealing to the user can be done in every OS (Windows, Linux, Mac, FreeBSD, BeOS). Yes, you can customize what is on the toolbars, and that is the workaround given to many who want to drag toolbars to a custom position, but its not true customization unless you can do it in a very standard way. I shouldnt have to remove all the icons from a toolbar, hide the original toolbar, unhide a new toolbar, and re-add all the icons to it to simulate a dragged and repositioned toolbar. If opera is the most customizable app, you've seen, how come it cant be customized in such basic ways as toolbar dragging?

Support for 3rd party code. Fine, they dont want to impliment it in order to maintain security. But if you arent going to add it, add the functions the users are clammering for in your forums. I've seen numerous requests for various 3rd party app support to be added from form fillers (I.E. roboform) to ad blockers (which the content blocker cant touch, it doesnt have a default server supplied list which is updated, it doesnt allow you to block ad's in various ways that apps like ad muncher, proxomitron, adblock, and even ad subtract can do), to even a proper auto-complete implimentation that doesnt require the notes function to be used. The notes function is nice, but again, the opera dev's give you a workaround to a feature that is standard in many apps used on many different platforms today instead of implimenting it.

The wand is an example of a feature that has been allowed to stagnate in the code. The wand is a great feature, but it lacks support for certain webpages. The wand saves passwords after the submit action has already been sent to the web server, which allows the webpage to perform certain actions on the passwords (such as changing them to 4 asteriks for security, so no one can guess the length of your password) instead of saving it when the user presses enter. I've reported numerous sites that use this technique to their forums, only to be flamed and have them blame the web site for not working with opera's feature. This is an incorrect answer. I've seen several third party form filler/password managers that can save these passwords properly and yet the developers use the excuse of a poorly coded site as a reason why their feature doesnt work as it should. Another problem with the wand is the inability to edit passwords. Again, they claim this is for security. But if you require a master password that meets certain criteria (I.E. meets DoD or higher standards such as requiring 2 numeric, 2 lower case, 2 upper case and 2 special characters along with requiring the password to be a decent length, security shouldnt be an issue) then security should be that much less of an issue. Right now, to edit a password, you have to delete your current one, which requires you go into the pref's dialog, go to the wand tab, click on wand passwords, search for the one you want, click the + sign next to it, click the one you want, and click delete, then go and re-enter your new login info. This is unacceptable. Editing your password should be done from this same dialog and not require the user re-enter their login info into the page. Again, this is basic functionality that you would expect in a password management tool like the wand.

Security is all well and good, but when the security excuse is used as a reason to not impliment basic functions seen in various other applications (many of which have never had security vulnerabilities), it gets old quick.

Dont get me wrong, even with all of these complaints, I feel opera is a great browser. It is the fastest, lightest on memory, and most responsive. This browser blows the comparison that firefox uses about startup times (IE starts up faster because the browser pre-loads stuff with the OS startup sequence) out of the water. Opera starts up quicker than IE on my system and opens 18 tabs in the same amount of time it takes firefox just to start up and uses 70-80MB less ram than firefox does. Its memory usage is near the same as that of IE7's December CTP, but IE7 still lacks support for certain functionality.

Now, let the flames against me begin. There is always a user who is not going to respect my opinions and feels he has to interject his opinions onto me instead of just reviewing this application and stating his opinion. I am sorry, but I've grown sick of this on fileforum. They've allowed the trolls and flamers to run rampant and dont offer any sort of control for it. The users who cant stand someone bad mouthing one of their favorite pieces of software, the ones that will resort to insults and name calling when someone says something bad about their favorite piece of software. The ones that assume that when someone posts something negative about a piece of software, that the reviewer must be unknowledgable or just a newbie. Now, flame away because I dont agree with your point of view and make these assumptions. Prove me right :)

donpacman

donpacman reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

I love it! 5+

ramian

ramian reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

Edit: This is in response to metshrines review above.

@metshrine,
I agree with you completely. I agree that Opera does have its flaws and I'm not trying to deny them. I too love and enjoy having Opera as my primary browser even though I'm well aware of its shortcomings, many of which you've summarized in your very good review. My post (which I seem to have accidently deleted) wasn't intended as a flame against ninjaratu or as a fanboy-type response; I was just trying to clarify his opening comment that it was devoid of meaningful customizations.

johnd164

johnd164 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

This release of opera is Not a Beta release.

According too Opera this release build 8212 is

Opera 9.0 Technology Preview 2 for Windows.

It is wrong for FileForum to call this a Beta Release.

a6

a6 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

opera was and is the god of all browsers. only found different issues with the flashplayer and quicktime which can sometimes smaller this overwhelming browsing experience. but besides that, opera is the fastest, most customizable and secure browser. and it keeps getting better and better. and guess what, it's free since v8.5...

romashka

romashka reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

To ninjeratu:

Did you read any Opera tutorials?
Right click on any toolbar or button or panel in Opera and choose Customize... !!!
Are you tried to customize Opera? It has MUCH more customizable GUI than SeaMonkey, Firefox, IE and most IE clones!!!
Opera is THE BEST browser! Period.

And don't tell me about Firefox. I like it, but it is too much PRed, and the reality is that Firefox is not as good as Opera.

ninjeratu

ninjeratu reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 14, 2006

Opera is fast. Very fast.
It's very compliant with standards.
It's also got a low footprint in the system.
That's good.

But there's a price to be paid for all this.

It's almost completely void of any meaningful user customizations except icon/color themes. Basic functions you'd find in any application based on the Windows API, like dragging the toolbars, does NOT work, which is unbelievable in a modern browser. Opera actually have layout themes .. This feels outdated and unnecessary. Opera does not use plugins (the new widgets might change some of this, though), and any adblock "plugin" you find is either an external application or a java(script) hack.
The browser was one of the first browsers with mouse gestures. Fine. But simple things like dragging links or images or customaizable tabs have yet to be invented in OperaWorld. It cannot, not even with external hacks, save user form data. Only the "personal data" (in the options screen) can be saved and inserted into webforms. Lots of small things you'd expect in a modern browser cannot be found and cannot be added. The few "extras" you find cannot be tweaked or changed more than minimal. It feels like the options screen looked exactly the same in version 2.00.

I feel this is kind of obvious: If you're going to prevent people from easily adding plugins to expand or change functionality .. you need to add functionality and tweaks in the browser itself. Not add relatively unimportant and useless functions like BitTorrent support, "improved" mail, better RSS support and things like that. Please focus on the _browser_, Opera. I can understand that they chose a fast, compliant and stable browser instead of a tweakable, user-friendly browser with all the bells and whistles of the Windows API. But it's gone a bit far. So many things you find (and expect to find!) in other Windows application today cannot be found. It's time for Opera to enter the 21st century. Sadly, it feels a bit like an anachronism. I get the impression they still add to a codebase from 1998 and don't know what to do because they don't want to rewrite the entire application - so they add "modern" things like BitTorrent support to look like they're up to date...

Unless Google will actually tell Opera to shape up and make not just the fastest and most compliant browser but also the most user friendly .. this browser will continue be the browser I want to use but keep uninstalling.

chimpypimpy

chimpypimpy reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

No politcal rhetoric here, just a straight review of Opera.
Opera is small.
Opera is fast.
Opera has most needed funtions built-in.
Opera now has ad blocking!!!

The end.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

If I can't block ads or elements of websites, I won't use the browser. Opera obviously is a slick little package and perhaps it would be my browser of choice with that functionality, but why bother when I have an OPEN SOURCE solution?

As for ratings, just ignore the haters. Opera Maxthon, and FF are all great browsers/extensions, it's the final touches that brings ius to use each one.

I'll use opera only when IE and FF fails: i.e. almost never.

Kramy

Kramy reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

Sorry for the low rating, but it's the only way to get people to read this. I think Opera is the best web browser, and that Firefox is the most customizable.

Unfortunately, I see completely clueless Opera fanboys slamming Firefox with 1 and 2 ratings, and ruining all its reviews while quoting 100% false sources.

I don't think either browser deserves such low ratings, but Opera fanboys are really agressive vs Firefox, and Firefox fanboys are really aggressive vs IE, which is really creating a lot of crappy reviews like this one that really say nothing true about the actual product.

The next person to quote something from FirefoxMyths and use it as justification to give Firefox a 1 will in turn giving Opera a 1. That site is full of nothing but s*** for people to throw back and forth at eachother. Form your own opinions and post them. Don't quote 100% false sources, as it makes you look like fools and makes lots of angry Firefox users retaliate.

On a side-note....Seamonkey starts in 4 seconds on a 333mhz IBM Thinkpad 390e!

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

There was a time when I was an avid supporter of Opera. It had some rendering problems, but was ultrafast. Since I started using Seamonkey as my primary browser I have had no reason to complain. I find it hard to believe that more people haven't jump on the Seamonkey bandwagon.

faja

faja reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

Does what it's supposed to do, but something about it turns me off each time. As for ZombieREA's comment "FF dunt have good GUI and some feature that i want (like Forward & Back withou reload page)" Firefox 1.5 has the back/forward without reload feature.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

I am impressed by the number of widgets. Last week - 8. Today - 47. Most of them are REALLY useful. Keep going Opera!

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

"Anywayy FF dunt have good GUI and some feature that i want"

Opera User.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

I call a spade a spade:

Started w/ Netscape before IE was born & was subsequently forced onto IE due to proprietary standards / compatibility issues.
The trashing by MS of IE6(decline began in 5.5v2) encouraged use of Communicator-- Netscape 6 was horrible(but v8 now is a very, very good).
Opera was ok then, but as in Netscape case, got worse with subsequent upgrade(and now is actually in contention for best browser title-- compatibility everywhere remains Achilles heel though).
Moved onto Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox-- but 1.5 & 1.6 DeerPark left a lot to be desired. This is not to say that v2 or 3 would not draw me back in the future, if it improved.
Now using a medley of Maxthon for sites requiring IE, & Opera + Netscape.
To this day there are still some sites that do ONLY render correctly in IE & NO other browser. Maxthon gets the rest of IE-required sites(no, IE emulation/reporting does not always work with other browsers), and Opera gets the rest of the yeoman work, with Netscape as its backup for non-compatible sites.

The point was not to bore you to tears with my dreary story, but to establish non-bias bona fides: i'm only beholden to whatever works best.

Opera's doing a wonderful job, and w/ continued improvement may just become #1...or then again, may slip down...who the freak knows?

Ward574

Ward574 reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

'Firefart' :D

Seriously, if you're tired of the memory hoggin slowness of Firefox and all the extension just making it worse, think about Opera. More functionality than your fully extensioned up Firefox, yet smaller than Firefox without any extensions at all!

Plus, it even beats IE in cold/warm starts despite IE being preloaded and built into the OS!

ZombieREA

ZombieREA reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

I love Opera better than any Browser.
Actually this time, i only use Maxthon when i need to manager web site (because Robo Form cant work with Opera) and IE if the site required.

I think FF is comfortable & easy to use when you need small Browser that can store into USB and use any where,dont need 2 install. Anywayy FF dunt have good GUI and some feature that i want (like Forward & Back withou reload page).

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

Occasional crash in TP1 fixed - as well as a download bug. Use IE, Firefox and Opera for one reason or another, but Opera remains my default.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

Firefox fanboys, looky:
http://mywebpages.comcas...ortCD/FirefoxMyths.html
Myth - "Firefox is the Fastest Web Browser"

Reality - Opera (now 100% free) is the fastest Graphical Web Browser in Windows.
Myth - "Firefox is the Most Secure Web Browser"
Reality - Opera is actually the most Secure Graphical Web Browser in Windows.

These things are true, this browser just plain has the best tabbed interface, features every thing that Firefart should have out of the box, while maintaining more efficient installation and integration on Multi-platforms, while maintaining a smaller install size.

Less memory and resource usage, less rendering issues, more stable than Firefart will ever be, and just plain faster rendering that Firefart overall.

The programmers of this actually know what they're doing. And version nine is looking veeeery nice.

crashoverride

crashoverride reviewed v9.0 Beta Build 8219 on Feb 13, 2006

It is a bit faster but sorry, still a Firefox fan. I also don't feel like switching browsers again. Opera and Firefox both are worlds fatser than IE which won't even load microsoft's own Live.com and half the time give Page Cannot Be Displayed. For me personally I have plenty of memory so that sob story about memory usage is a nonissue. I'll give opera a bit of a try but there's just something about it I don't like.

Wirpo

Wirpo reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 11, 2006

Former Firefox user here... 9.0 P2 won me over. Wow!

RavenTS

RavenTS reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 9, 2006

In addition to adding new features, they also fixed stability issues and the annoying 2-minute-exit bug (where closing Opera took a looong time) from TP1.

Love it!

Richardky

Richardky reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 8, 2006

this version is really cool ...they have come along way (free) and add free being the new best part ..to many new useful options to mention ..speed improvments atleast for me pages load fast in comparison to older versions..

i really like the fully customizable interface and drag and drop anything ..

Fred-Erik

Fred-Erik reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 8, 2006

Best browser around! Much faster than Firefox, much functionality integrated (email, im, bittorrent (tp2); you name it) and a smaller download.

New functionality in Technical Preview 2: Widgets, Bittorrent, easy content blocking, easy adding of new search engines, improved pop-up blocking and thumbnail preview for the tabs.

oubeaver

oubeaver reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 8, 2006

My favorite browser. This version will be great. I have one very very very small gripe...I kinda wish there was some gui changes. Just something that looks a little different. 9.0 looks exactly like 8.5. I just like change I guess.

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 8, 2006

my favorite Nice job guys:)

Mirrebex

Mirrebex reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 8, 2006

trapanator moron.. if u want to review firefox go to the firefox download page..
Opera is great.. , two thumbs up..x

trapanator

trapanator reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 8, 2006

Firefox 1.5 is MUCH better, expecially in javascript support.

Jarda72

Jarda72 reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 8, 2006

@Bixente: Do You a little fool? The TP2 was released 7-2-06 and You test it 7-2-06 for 3 days? This is not stable release, not beta but technical preview only. Only real idiot install it without backup over the stable one - when You missing Your bookmarks look for the Opera folder for so named .BAK file. I think there is no better browser and there is no reason to give 5 (if I can not give 6)!

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 8, 2006

Personally,i shifted to ff 1.5 after long hiatus between tp1 and tp2 become un-berable..but lemme tell you,this build is worth the wait..
I would encourage people to try it and report any bugs or as question on their forum..
The reviewers before me have written enough..so 5/5 to it

fatray

fatray reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

Opera kicks butt! Been using it for years, even though right now I am trying out IE7. I can say a lot more web sites work with Opera and not with IE7. You can't beat the Magic Wand and my favorite 'Right click, Left Click' and vise versa for the back and foward buttons.
I do wish I could have the Google tool bar for Opera, I need that spell check.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

I love all these small things that make the browser so convenient, like WAP pages surfing (try e.g. http://wap.yahoo.com ) and that Opera shows the miniatures of sites if you hover your mouse over the tab. You can try it with your browser ;-)

... and a word concerning security. Opera is not only favourite but also the only browser of Bruce Schneier ("Personally, I use Opera. I like the fact that it seems to be designed with the best interests of the user in mind, and not the best interests of large corporate websites"). Good recommendation?

Bixente

Bixente reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

The 3rd day I used this browser it had forgotten all my bookmarks. For a browser calling itself a version 9.x this is a serious shame.

Tokar

Tokar reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

klingon379: you are a dope. There are probably just as many webpages that don't work in FireFox that would work perfectly or better in Opera...like those, um, with Acid2 (since everyone likes to compare web standards in browsers). Opera is more secure than FireFox...keep on dreaming.

John_Bedin: Im not sure how you can backup your claim considering all the leaps that Opera is taking way past FireFox...tab previews, bittorrent, faster load times, better support of future web standards at this point in time, smaller download, smaller memory footprint, better interface, etc.

Metshrine:
-No browser is perfect. If a page doesn't work in Opera, you go tell the devs the problem, and then you go use it in Internet Explorer, or have you forgotten that Windows comes with Internet Explorer? Not a big deal.
-I would figure with everyone worried about security nowadays, getting serious about autoform filler would be the last thing on their minds.
-Im glad you use AdMuncher though and don't rip Opera's content filtering in favor of FireFox AdBlock. AdMuncher trumps every ad filter on the internet, including AdBlock. So if you have AdMuncher, then you don't need Opera content filter or FireFox AdBlock...very very simple.

sophist_dreams: so let me get this straight. If a webpage doesn't work in FireFox you use IETab extension to use IE to render the page and go your merry way. But if a webpage fails in Opera you 1) won't use Internet Explorer to use it and instead say how much better FireFox supports the page and 2) complain and moan that it doesnt work and say how bad Opera is? Boy you are a real hypocrite.

ServerMechanic: As stated, AdMuncher trumps both Opera content filter and FireFox AdBlock. Go get that and quit complaining.

For all of you writing negative reviews because sites don't work in Opera:
You guys are just too lazy to check out the help menu...let alone the Opera forums. The Opera dev team encourages that you submit sites that don't work such that they can improve their product. Seeing as how your only purpose in life is to just rip something based on first judgements, I doubt you will ever use this feature and the sites you visit on a daily basis will never get fixed. Kudos to you!
However, if you are smart enough to submit the site problems, then the Opera dev team would look into it and fix any possible problems when the final version (or next beta version) comes around. Then in future reviews you wouldn't have these complaints and you would save everyone the time from reading your stupid complaints that your sites don't work in Opera.
But then again, if they were to fix these problems, you would probably make it your point to find new sites which don't work and complain about those too...bah!

Anyway...
They have added so much, especially the NEEDED CTRL-ENTER shortcut for www.-.com completion.
I figured AOL Explorer would be the only browser with tab previews...I guess I was wrong.
They have added so much its ridiculous...I trully believe in this project because of how active and dedicated the development team is...now if only the IE team was this active.

5/5. This is the best browser on earth (this coming from a computer user who has been using Internet Explorer for the past 7 years up until 2 weeks ago when I changed over to Opera 8.51, then Opera 9TP1).

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

Out-freakin'n'friggin'-standing!! FFFFaassssttttt! On steroids! Too bad some FFanboy mistook this area for a restroom. Always some party pooper not too far away, ready to dump.

Now needs a coupla things: better compatibility with streaming AOL Media Playback(unagi plugin: test on Channels @ AOL, that won't work, though the new aol video player and site works fine)-- and ability to scrunch toolbars 'n their space area like w/ IE engine.

librarianscott

librarianscott reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

Yay! Ctrl+Enter finally auto completes "www" and "com" when used in the address field.

The widgets seem to be faster (less resource hogging?) than yahoo widgets, etc. But, no betanews widget yet :(

Now if they only had filterset.g adblock built in I would forgive the lack of extensions because of the speed.

eyv

eyv reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

Opera is a truly excellent web browsing platform. However, I will not use it myself because it's not Open Source. I may recommend it to others, who would not spend 20 minutes tracing through a crashed firefox.exe. Yes, it DOES happen more often that I'd like. Also, Opera has better memory usage. I can't speak for security.

klingon379

klingon379 reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

Firefox security nightmare? I think you have Firefox confused with Internet Explorer 6. Firefox is currently the most secure web browser available. Opera is a good web browser but there are a lot of web sites that don't display properly in Opera.

plings

plings reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

Thank God this browser exists to take me away from the Firefox security nightmare...

munga42

munga42 reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

Finally, an easy way to set cookies per site.

Getting close to perfection now..

And hey idiots, get your facts right before you spam here.

sQin

sQin reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

i hope there'll be i-frame blocker integrated in the future

Yogurth

Yogurth reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

This version rocks for me..it unbreaks some sites that were broken in 9.0tp1, it has absolutely the best and most elegant AdBlock/popupblock/Flashblock implementation on market.

It has per site customization!!!

It's super fast and it has all features I need from webrowser...

It has AJAX based widgets, so in near future ppl that uses widgets on Windows platform can kiss goodbye both Yahoo's and Stardock's memory intensive widget solutions

FF and IE are sunked even deeper with this release.

John_Bedin

John_Bedin reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

Maybe not the best browse, Firefox still leads the pack, but the fastest and most user friendly. maybe I am merely lazy but I like having bookmarks available on demand

photonboy

photonboy reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

As much as I love the way Opera feels, I too agree completely.
Opera should be more compatible by now. I fill out a lot of forms, and I really HATE the Wand. I don't want to type the first letter to fill in the space, I want it to be FILLED already.
I love the Split View, but is it necessary to take up the extra space on the far left for only a few icons? (I only use the Bookmarks and Transfers icons and they needn't even be there)
Please don't change the way things work in other browsers just to be different as different is not always better.

Opera is very responsive and enjoyable to use for basic browsing so I'm frustrated. I only want one browser, not two or three. (So I use Opera for basic browsing and then Copy the link over to IE if Opera doesn't work properly. As much as I like Firefox's extensions, I draw the line at 2 browsers.)
I was looking forward to IE7, but the recent beta release (2) is VERY buggy and should NOT be installed if you care for your computer. (It's the first time in a while that Microsoft has released such an unstable product as a general Beta)

CyberDog

CyberDog reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

I believe I agree with everything Metshrine just said...

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

Opera is by far the best browser in terms of speed and efficiency, however, it doesnt work in some of the ways it should. There is no right click ability on the bookmarks menu, allowing you to right click and delete a favorite or folder. The wand does not, even after my many reports of the same sites to opera's developers, save passwords properly on certain sites. The lack of auto-complete and auto-fill (and please dont lecture me about the notes feature, that is not how auto-complete should work) is another show stopper for me. The wand also does not supports sites like www.us.army.mil which utilize a login dialog box to process login information, so again, the program roboforom, mentioned below, takes the cake from wand again.

And, as always, a browser transition means that the programs I've used in other browsers should work in this one. I've invested time and money into certain programs which add functionality opera doesnt have, and from their forums, I gather they dont plan to add. Support for programs like Roboform, a form filler and login manager that blows wand out of the water. Features like the ad block extension for firefox (which the content blocker can't even begin to touch in terms of functionality), while not a problem for me since I use ad muncher, but for others it seems to be a necessity.

And please, before you flame me for my OPINION, realize that a review is in the eyes of the reviewer and that I am not required to agree with any of you on how I feel this browser should work.

Like I've said in past reviews, opera is by far the best browser in terms of memory usage, speed, and rendering, but until it can adapt to what I want it to be, firefox will remain my default browser (even as much as it pains me to say that since firefox is SOOO SUBPAR).

EDIT: Munga42: Thanks for your insight into our reviews without stating an example of where we were "spamming". Just because we dont agree with your view doesnt mean our reviews are spam

EDIT: Tokar:

"No browser is perfect. If a page doesn't work in Opera, you go tell the devs the problem, and then you go use it in Internet Explorer, or have you forgotten that Windows comes with Internet Explorer? Not a big deal."

If you bothered to read, I have reported the site not working with wand since version 7.0, and have gotten no where with it. I dont care about rendering issues, I dont judge opera based on that, but when a feature they put in the browser doesnt work, and they dont fix it, I am sorry, but I will judge a browser and its devs based on that, and I will rate negatively accordingly

"I would figure with everyone worried about security nowadays, getting serious about autoform filler would be the last thing on their minds."

So, because its a security risk, there shouldnt be any personal information entered into the browser preferences for auto-fill now should there? If you protect the autofill with a password like roboform does, that is then used to encrypt your personal info, the risk is made into that much less of one. I am not the only one who uses roboform, I've seen it requested numerous times on the opera forums, so please, dont knock a feature/function because it can be used negatively in a security standpoint. Any feature can be exploited, but its the way that feature is developed that causes this. If you program it so the data can be read easily, then yes it will be stolen and hacked, but if you program it in such a way as to thwart most of the basic hack attempts, then it pretty much nullifies the risk.

"Im glad you use AdMuncher though and don't rip Opera's content filtering in favor of FireFox AdBlock. AdMuncher trumps every ad filter on the internet, including AdBlock. So if you have AdMuncher, then you don't need Opera content filter or FireFox AdBlock...very very simple."

Again, you are going against my OPINION, which is not what a review is about. I stated an opinion, you dont agree with it, no one asked you to. So please, dont flame me for my opinion. IN MY OPINION, adblock does blow opera's content filter out of the water. It is far more customizable via regex and doesnt require you click on everything you want to block. But as I said, ad muncher blows that out of the water too, so I honestly dont care about adblock.

"You guys are just too lazy to check out the help menu...let alone the Opera forums. The Opera dev team encourages that you submit sites that don't work such that they can improve their product. Seeing as how your only purpose in life is to just rip something based on first judgements, I doubt you will ever use this feature and the sites you visit on a daily basis will never get fixed. Kudos to you!
However, if you are smart enough to submit the site problems, then the Opera dev team would look into it and fix any possible problems when the final version (or next beta version) comes around. Then in future reviews you wouldn't have these complaints and you would save everyone the time from reading your stupid complaints that your sites don't work in Opera.
But then again, if they were to fix these problems, you would probably make it your point to find new sites which don't work and complain about those too...bah!"

You resort to insulting users for having a complaint with a product? Wow, you are a mature one. A review is an OPINION, and if a site breaks, that forms a negative opinion in the reviewer. Who made you the final say as to who is knowledgable? No one. You obviously dont fully read reviews, because if you did you would have seen mine wasnt complaining about a broken site, but a broken feature which I also stated I've reported to the dev's on numerous occasions. You would also see that I praise opera as the fastest and overall best browser, but yet you still resort to flaming me when I have something negative to say about it. And it seems according to you, a user is stupid because they point out in a review that something doesnt work with a particular application or they state their opinion. You must have a vast experience reviewing software, Am I right? If all reviews were limited to only positive ones, there would be no point to a review site. This would just be a "Come here and praise your favorite product" site. Get off your high horse and respect others opinions.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

It breaks 2 websites I visit frequently, of which have been reported for faulty rendering multiple times.

Aside from that, this release still goes to show this is the best 3rd party browser available.

More sites work natively on this than on Firefox, I have discovered in my studies. It's more stable, it's moe secure, and is much more integratable into multiple operating systems.

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

the best
lol some reviewer load opera for 30 seconds and they know everything

Ward574

Ward574 reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

Some reviewers know next to nothing!

To open a link in a new tab, middle click or hold down shift.

Otherwise, Opera v9tp2 is the fastest and most standards compliant Windows browser of them all.

ServerMechanic

ServerMechanic reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

It's a halfway decent browser but it's just not Firefox.

It doesn't render everything how it should. Some sites I have visited have had text over top of pictures and pictures over top of text.

The new ad blocking feature "Block Content" is OK but it blocks way to much or not enough. With Firefox and the Adblock extension it is perfect.

Everytime Opera comes out with a new browser version I use it and end up coming back to Firefox.

Mark Gillespie

Mark Gillespie reviewed v9.0 Build 8212 Technology Preview 2 on Feb 7, 2006

mmmm, lots of new stuff, Blows the IE7 preview and Firefox out of the water in features and stability (even beta) speed and memory footprint.

If you want 100% stability, try Opera v8.51, otherwise give Opera 9 Tech Preview 2 a shot. You wond't be disappointed.

Hellcat_M

Hellcat_M reviewed v8.51 on Jan 25, 2006

I like Opera, I just have one beef with it and that it has really no options for tabs. To open a link in another tab you have to right click or click the open tab button, you can't just have it open tabs with new URL links or typed in the address box. I also like having a new tab open with searches and favorites. If they gave you options on when you want tabs to open like Maxthon and a few other browsers. I've also had problems with typing in some fields (like blog entries and such), it just won't type and instead it'll find that letter on the page and hightlight it. Fix those two problems and it would be the best of all browsers.

fair_is_fair

fair_is_fair reviewed v8.51 on Dec 28, 2005

Opera is fast, secure, and feature-rich.
Windows and linux versions available. I love "wand", the autologin tool. You really can configure Opera to your heart's desire. Opera is constantly under developement with regular updates. My only complaint is no 64 bit support as yet.
Opera will spoil you on other browsers.

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v8.51 on Dec 25, 2005

This is the fastest, most secure and most standards compliant Web Browser. However numerous web pages break with it and I've had some problems with it crashing. Finally the M2 email client is text only and I am unable to view all emails in it properly. Fix these problems and it would be perfect.

RADicalSatDude

RADicalSatDude reviewed v8.51 on Dec 8, 2005

Very fast, bends to my will in every way possible, tool bars, adding custom search engines to the search bar.Saving my personal info and so on.

Only thing annoying is the history layout, I prefer IE's***ory layout, and using the third party Search.INI editor, eventhough it works fine, just seems like it should've been built in as well.

Look Maa No extensions! ;-)

GimieGimieGimie

GimieGimieGimie reviewed v8.51 on Nov 26, 2005

My comments on Opera v8.50/51 can be found here:

http://www.betanews.com/...deos/1132685634#c123908

dono1216

dono1216 reviewed v8.51 on Nov 25, 2005

Better browser than FF in many respects. Have both at home just because they're both free.

...Forced to use IE at work. Argghhhhhh.

Lands

Lands reviewed v8.51 on Nov 23, 2005

This is the best browser ever.

Macross74

Macross74 reviewed v8.51 on Nov 23, 2005

Great program fullstop.
pity it does not get the same hype as firefox.
every person is differant, as the below user stated their preferances.
easy to convert from IE.

Brian49

Brian49 reviewed v8.51 on Nov 22, 2005

Excellent - very stable, highly configurable, lightning fast. Some pages render a little differently to what they do in IE or IE-based browsers, but still render perfectly well.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v8.51 on Nov 22, 2005

Does not render as well as Firefox 1.5.

4 for all the features and the best tabbed browsing experience.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v8.51 on Nov 22, 2005

It's OK, but every time I try a new version of any of the main browsers, I always come back to "Sea Monkey". For the life of me, I don't understand why many more people aren't using it, Sea Monkey, that is.

Mystenes

Mystenes reviewed v8.51 on Nov 22, 2005

the only thing that i'm looking for in Opera is "Adblock+" plugin :-)

when someone will write this for Opera it will be the best browser on Earth!

sQin

sQin reviewed v8.51 on Nov 22, 2005

+ nice rss reader
+ browsing speed
- bad download managers support
- no plugins

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Nov 22, 2005

It removes completly from memory, but it's true, after a few seconds of activity.
Try to decrease your cache size. I did and now it takes maximum 1-3 seconds to unload from memory.
Anyway, version 8,51 is out!

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Nov 4, 2005

Some cpu usage when idling even on sites with mostly text. Does not completely remove itself from memory when I close it. Have to use Task Manager to completely remove it.

lapcia

lapcia reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Nov 2, 2005

Perfect, even if it has few little bugs (
do not forget that it's 9.o beta release ;) ) but the stable 8.5 version is the best of the best.

Thenk you Opera team

groanz

groanz reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Nov 2, 2005

Interesting that Velocition managed to find one single feature Firefox had first, when Opera had all other features before Firefox. Good for you! But it doesn't change the facts.

And guess what, sophist_dreams, the fact that sites work or break depending on what you set Opera to identifies means that it's the site's browser sniffing that discriminates against Opera, not that Opera can't handle them.

A comment like "It does not adhere to industry standards for html" indicates to me that this is a person who has not been around on the net for a very long time. Especially in light of the above comment about browser identification!

And finally, don't mind the Firefox fanboy httpd.confused who is desperate because Opera beats Firefox, hands down.

Opera: Smaller, faster, more functional than Firefox.

The "middle finger" httpd.confused made conveniently ignores the fact that this means that paying users will never have to pay for an upgrade again, and that this will lead to more users and thereby more webmasters testing their sites with Opera, which benefits even those who have paid in the past.

Not to mention the fact that one can ask for a refund.

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of FUD...

The-Who

The-Who reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 26, 2005

almost perfect. almost...
annoying Java problems and doesn't support the download manager i use (FlashGet).
it could be and can be perfect...

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 22, 2005

just perfect...
to the people that dont like the white skin i say CHANGE it!
shift + 12 to download 100+ skins

"almost perfect. almost...
annoying Java problems and doesn't support the download manager i use (FlashGet).
it could be and can be perfect"
there is a plug in in the site the make opera nad firefox to work with flashget man

LeXTeRiTY_X

LeXTeRiTY_X reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 22, 2005

Excellent update Opera, all pages appear flawless on this computer now.

Online banking was the biggest problem as most banks prefer IE and NN based browsers.

Still a few minor annoyances (I say this on the behalf of NN/FF fans out there) like extended plugins--or "extensions" as they call it--but the inline find was a wise choice to replace the annoying find dialogue.

ravage777

ravage777 reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

Has everything I want in terms of default functionality. Very fast as well, not only in browsing speed, but in startup speed as well.

To the user below:

Press 1 or 2 to move back or forward through your tabs.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

The user below is exactly why I hate most fanboys of any piece of software (be it a browser (ff, opera, ie), an OS (linux, bsd, windows) or any other application, they cant respect the fact that not everyone is as comfortable or knowledgable using a piece of software as they are or that not everyone has their same viewpoint or opinions on every aspect of a piece of software. They tend to flame instead of understand where someone is coming from with a viewpoint. Quick to insult, never understand

Opera definitely has some quirks that take some time to get used to when jumping ship from IE or FF. The CTRL TAB function, for one, leaves alot to be desired in that it doesnt just jump from tab to tab, instead presenting you a list. An option there would be nice to switch between either displaying a list of tabs, or tabbing through them (as is the case with IE7, konqueror, and firefox). The subpar wand function is annoying to me and I long for the day that I will be able to use roboform with opera.

One thing I noted on their snapshots website is this entry in the change log

"Added Netscape Plug-in API extensions developed by browser and plug-in vendors"

Perhaps this means a type of plugin/extension architecture is coming? One can only hope. A great browser, no doubt, but until it supports the stuff I need it to, I cant rate it a 5 or use it as my default (which I am longing to, being that it is faster than any browser out there). I dont like software that cant adapt and grow with me, leaving me to instead wait for the dev team to either add functionality, or enhance what is there already, which leaves me waiting. A big annoyance with this browser. But as I said, this is definitely the number 1 browser, but just not default browser material for me just yet.

some guy

some guy reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

excelent ,, the browser built in pop up is the best I have seen in any browser-IE Fire Fox.
I like the configuration better choices,show animated gifs great to turn off on dail up. renders faster then IE or FF.
was a firefox person but I have found a new king dont get me wrong fire is still better then Ie but this ones the best in my opion out of the 3.
great job guys:)

99Honeyburst how the hell can you have a hardtime working this browser? hate to say it but yes you are dumb.

99Honeyburst

99Honeyburst reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

I've experimented with Opera a few times and downloaded it again when it went free. Somehow I can't get my head around using the thing - maybe I'm dumb or something but the transition from IE to Firefox for me was seamless, but I just find myself struggling with Opera from a useability perspective - it's just not as intuitive IMO. Pity 'cause it does appear to render pages faster than Firefox or IE (on my machine at least). I can see it's a great product - I just wonder how many others will have a similar experience to me...

Velocition

Velocition reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

I would give this a 5, but there's much left to do on the rendering issue. Ofcourse, Opera and Firefox are both great alternatives to IE, and I would love to see the world using either.

@ Ward574:

"Ever wondered where Firefox and the very antiquated IE browsers get their ideas? Opera!"

"User Interface: Added opera:config for managing preferences"

Sorry man, but Firefox has had that option for quite some time now...

wanderer2005

wanderer2005 reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

Opera is truly a fantastic browser. I have been very happy about previous versions. Opera gets better and better. Many people comment on the speed at which Opera renders webpages. It's fast!Unfortunately, I only have dial-up but using Opera it feels like I have broadband. How the company manages to fit so many features in Opera is astounding. Opera 9 (3.8MB), Firefox 1.07 (4.7MB), IE 7 beta 1 (10.1MB)

Ward574

Ward574 reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

Opera defines the future.

Ever wondered where Firefox and the very antiquated IE browsers get their ideas? Opera!

It does really take some getting used to, but once you're hooked, thats it. Speed wise, it is without compare. It has everything you need built in yet still less than 4Mb!

anyletter

anyletter reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

If you've got rendering problems, why don't you go ahead and file a bug report over at https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/ . Couldn't hurt to let the devs know what's wrong, right?

stisev

stisev reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

Best. Browser. Ever.

Only complaint is that some sites don't render properly. That's all

KingSky

KingSky reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

Love this program... it works great and is really fast. Now that the popup blocking has been enhanced I love it even more.

To those who are subtly bashing the guy who doesn't visit pages that render correctly... get over it. We don't all visit the same pages and not all pages are designed correctly.

Yes, the authors of those pages probably need to re-work them to use proper coding.. but do you really expect anybody to adjust their browsing habits so they only visit properly coded sites? I mean come on... he probably doesn't even know that that is a problem.

immol

immol reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

I've used Opera for a long time and very rarely do sites not render properly. The performance and features surpass IE and even Firefox for my needs. Opera has better performance through my proxy server than IE or Firefox. The mail client is great, the 'wand' feature is excellent. The built in ability to undo closed tabs or retrieve closed tabs from the 'trash can' is great as well. I feel that Opera is best in the hands of hardcore users who can appreciate the features and not be overwhelmed by them.

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

Another stunning update,opera developers keep notching up and re-define browsing standards with every release,keep it up!

rpavl

rpavl reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

Simply the best....the poor kid who says opera isnt rendering pages is running a P3 500 mhz dinosaur..this is one awesome program

jshrk

jshrk reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

Opera well done this is a fantastic release keeping ahead of the game, good stuff

PS: sophist_dreams I have used Opera for along time now and very rarely encounter rendering issues on websites, unless the 35 websites you refer to are all virus enfected porn sites which you visit, i see no reason it wouldnt function correctly as it does for everyone else.

reets

reets reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

To ModderXManiac: Firefox might suck to you but to let ya know, I use Ajax to make sites and most of they won't work at all in Opera but work perfect in Firefox and IE.

On the other hand, I would pick Opera over IE any day. I have nothing against it, it's very good software and am glad that it is now free! :D Great job guys!

JaDaDowntown

JaDaDowntown reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

It's getting better and better. What can I say, it is the TOP 1 browser.

1000 x Thank's to the Opera team!!!!!!

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

Wunderbar!

opera:config!!!

ITS FASTER!!! OH YEAH!!!

*ahem*

Firefox sucks ^_^

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

Amazing ! So fast and smooth ! Pages are rendering instantly. Now the gap with Firefox is huge. Bravo !!!

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

I like Opera and have owned both the Windows and Linux versions for years, but SeaMonkey is faster and does a better job of rendering. I really don't understand why more people haven't tried it.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v9.0 Build 8031 Technology Preview 1 on Oct 20, 2005

Wooow! What a speed boost! Incredible!

PS Ctrl+N is replaced by Ctrl+T, at least in my language version.

One Loop

One Loop reviewed v8.50 on Oct 12, 2005

Opera is a great Internet suite. It's got a very good standards compliant web browser, a very convienent E-mail client, RSS capabilities and a tonne of great features that work out of the box and don't require configuration. I like Opera because it's fast, flexible and very easy to use. I've been an Opera user for a couple years now and I'll continue to be for quite some time.

SamiChang

SamiChang reviewed v8.50 on Oct 2, 2005

Well it takes a bit time for the Maxthon morons to realize what a internet browser is !

BetaJunky

BetaJunky reviewed v8.50 on Sep 30, 2005

Love it! Get It! Firefox is great too. Opera seems a bit faster and I think more user friendly.

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v8.50 on Sep 30, 2005

Oh, gee, Opera Software has technology they refer to as "SNORRE". How appropriate. By the way, BTS and XSLT aren't "acronyms", they're initialisms.

This freeware release is simply a middle finger to everyone who paid for the previous version. And as for their "premium support", it sucks.

jtstone1983

jtstone1983 reviewed v8.50 on Sep 29, 2005

Great interface, and it beats firefox by 100% The built in download accelerator is a useful tool; The Popup blocker is top notch. However, I don't like how it makes it to go back to a previous page when you click on a link. And tabbed windows are a must. Still needs a little work when you move to a different page when you click on a link...

Drich

Drich reviewed v8.50 on Sep 29, 2005

I have tried all the browsers out there. Opera is the best. Full featured browser with a fantastic email program to boot. :)

jcs83md

jcs83md reviewed v8.50 on Sep 28, 2005

Fastest browser on the planet, thats for sure, but do I miss my AdBlock from Firefox.

Yes, I know of the third-party programs, and the filter.ini - yada yada. I also know about the rendering & java problems tht I encounter on a daily basis as well.

Nevertheless, I give Opera a 4/5 and have been using it lately.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v8.50 on Sep 28, 2005

Such reviews like this below, written by Blackhole8746, made me angry. Some people are probably made of concrete :-(

ad 1. Maxthon is better in what? In using NCSA Mosaic engine?
ad 2. tools--->preferences (or Ctrl+F12)--->advanced--->speech (or similar, I do not use the English version of the program). BTW, speech has been supported for almost a year!!!

And what Opera A/S says about the future of the browser (aka Opera 9.xx):

Merlin is the name of a small falcon, an Ancient, and as Olli mentioned, the code name of our next major release. Since we released Opera 8.5 today without banner ads, we thought we'd tell everyone some of the things they have to look forward to in the future from Opera. We've been working hard on the next major release for quite some time and we're getting ever closer to releasing a preview.

Here at Opera, we like acronyms. In QA, we use acronyms and abbreviations every day. We have stuff called SPARTAN, OASIS, SNORRE, BTS, etc. In fact, we like acronyms so much, we've stuffed a bunch of them into Merlin. You might recognize a couple: XSLT 1.0, WF2, a new IMAP back-end, and some CSS3 Selectors. Of course, we can't fill Opera with just acronymns, so we stuck in designMode (rich text editing). Oh, there's more, but we can't reveal all our secrets now.

Don't worry, we also had to fix a bunch of bugs. So, we made OBJECTs and IFRAMEs respect z-index, improved our margin-collapsing code, fixed problems with width inheritance for positioned elements, and nearly completed support for Acid2. There's way, way more to talk about, but that'll come later.

Enjoy 8.5 and look forward to Merlin. It's going to be great!

Blackhole8746

Blackhole8746 reviewed v8.50 on Sep 28, 2005

This is definitley the best browser that ever existed... Just love the voice feature and over all it's just terrific... I thought of Maxthin as the best browser ever but I just tuned it down in one second after I saw Opera 8.5. And FireFox is just stupid I hate it Opera is much better I do not see what FireFox has to offer even more than IE!! IE is loads better than the crappy FireFox

Redeyes_Gambit

Redeyes_Gambit reviewed v8.50 on Sep 26, 2005

Superior in speed to Firefox. Superior in features to IE (which isn't hard :P ). Sinkable, highly customizable interface, easy to learn, built in pop-up blocker, importation of IE and FF bookmarks, will run side by side with IE or FF and more.

The only problem I have with it is bookmarking a page with the "bookmark page" under the "bookmarks" button. If you have a lot of folders it makes it fairly difficult to put it in the right place (it has the tree all expanded out). However if you use the sidebar and just drag the address to the right folder it is much easier.

Try it out, if ya' don't like it you can always switch back to your old browser. What do you have to lose?

gedazx

gedazx reviewed v8.50 on Sep 25, 2005

The best browser in the Earth.

klumy

klumy reviewed v8.50 on Sep 24, 2005

Excellent software

Opialus

Opialus reviewed v8.50 on Sep 23, 2005

Been using Opera for 6 years. An excellent browser and miles ahead of any other. Now that it's freeware I don't see why anyone wouldn't use it. Great!

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v8.50 on Sep 22, 2005

Opera is a great alternative to IE/Maxthon/Avant. It's miles ahead of FF.

My only gripes are (1) the search bar's width isn't configurable; and (2) you can't search from the address bar without typing a "g" etc first.

These two things are do-able in pretty much every other browser. I haven't found any way of changing them in Opera (either from Googling or searching the Opera forums). It seems like one or the other would be fairly trivial to implement.

Edit: I forgot being able to automatically clear the history when exiting the program. Avant/Maxthon/Deer Park have this feature. No reason for Opera not to have it.

4/12 stars

sikomo

sikomo reviewed v8.50 on Sep 22, 2005

Simply the BEST! Even outfoxed FIREFOX in my estimation. Tried using this before with the ads but very annoying. Now with its browser clean of the ads, Opera operates with amazing speed and unbelievable stability. If other browsers can't live up to expectations,then I will have to use this for a very long time.

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v8.50 on Sep 21, 2005

I think finally opera is the best of the web!it was the best and their continous,good&steady updates has been a example which other developers of browsers around the world should follow!!
It has now removed ads which makes it completely free and with all features which u ever need!

_eclipse_

_eclipse_ reviewed v8.50 on Sep 21, 2005

Best browser ever. Fast, secure, fully customizable.

Ward574

Ward574 reviewed v8.50 on Sep 21, 2005

Easily the best browser available. It does it all for less than 4Mb. With a little editing, it works fine off USB drives.

The main killer features:

Undo - undos a closed page.
Sessions - If you close the browser, sessions allow you to carry on from where you left off.
Mouse Gestures - so useful, Windows should have them built in.

a6

a6 reviewed v8.50 on Sep 21, 2005

opera, the high configurable, comfortable and clean browser, that is so fast... and now it is free! if this is not worth a five rating, what else? there is no better browser yet.

cool_guy

cool_guy reviewed v8.50 on Sep 21, 2005

I just hope they don't go out of business and they have still some type of good income. Excellent browser.

twosheds

twosheds reviewed v8.50 on Sep 21, 2005

I wish Opera luck now that it has truly entered into the hitherto two-horse race that are the new browser wars, by removing the ads.

However it seriously breaks some standards-compliant sites that use CSS positioning, and needs to work on this.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v8.50 on Sep 21, 2005

Kudos!!! This has been my main browser... until October comes around and this comes out(from former Moz/FF folks): http://www.flock.com/home/

LeXTeRiTY_X

LeXTeRiTY_X reviewed v8.50 on Sep 21, 2005

One of the best moves was to go freeware. Many improvements have been made, it even works on Internet Banking now. The only downfall is that some CSS positioning elements aren't properly calculated.

Needless to say, they deserve 5 stars for listening to their users and going freeware after so many years of shareware and adware.

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v8.50 on Sep 21, 2005

I still prefer Firefox, and only use Opera for site testing, but the absence of the ad banner now makes Opera a closer second to Firefox for me.

I applaud the Opera folks for finally making it freeware. It'll definitely be the browser I recommend to anyone who doesn't like Firefox for whatever reason.

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

This is great! Downloading now...
As for FF being better because of extensions - Opera has most features built-in. No need of buggy, third party plugins that fail to be updated with new versions.

Richardky

Richardky reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Very smart ideal going freeware and about time the browser is adware free ..back on my dial up days i didnt see this as a faster browser but on broadband it does seem just a dot faster and they have come a long way in looks and options
the pop up blocker works fine my opinion as for my opinion.. allthough i think they should go in the plugin style addons instead of all built in this way us the users can add or take out what we see as useless or needed goodies...

nightops

nightops reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Doesn't block pop-ups? Huh? This is fully customizable. You can block all pop-ups, block no pop-ups, or block 'undesireable' pop-ups. You can manually enter the names of sites you consider safe to view pop-ups from, and also manually enter sites you want to always block pop-ups from. Just because some site says it doesn't work, doesn't mean that they checked everything out. It even shows you how to block pop-ups on the Help files... this is an easy 5 of 5 for me.

bgfeldm

bgfeldm reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Pros:
Some Nice Features.
Like the way the got away from the status bar.

Cons:

1) Lacks Blocking Popups (failed: http://www.popupcheck.com) Firefox and IE are greatly better.

2) Spacing is off on pages (Buttons and Form Boxes do not display as the right size. Causing Spacing to be off for the rest of the page.)

3) FireFox and IE are faster then Opera on my system. (My slower: Windows XP, Duel Pentium 3, 500 Mega Hertz, 1 Gig of RAM).

4) View --> Source, takes forever to comeup.

5) Lacking Cookie Control. There is a tool to view cookies. You have to set cookies manualy by domain. Can not set it up to block all Third Party Cookies on all domains. IE has 3 Party cookie blocking for all domains, and Firefox has allow cookies from original site only (which blocks 3rd party cookies.)

guti

guti reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Even faster than previous release, stabler, and free.

Amazing!

Can't wait for Bittorrent to be added in the release branch.

guitardave78

guitardave78 reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Well done to opera for finally releasing this for free.
It looks great by far the nicest looking browser. But it still has the same problems it always had. It's rendering engine is just not very good. It appears slow, even though it is supposed to be the fastest. The way it renders looks slow, even if it is not.
and as Paradise-FH- said, code the works fine in ie and firefox, fails to render correctly in this.
A shame to be sure as it is a nice browser with some noce features, but is just not worth developing extra code for, when you already have ie and firefox specific code.

maxstep

maxstep reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

The best browser now is free. If you never tried it because of the price, now it's great opportunity to give opera a chance - try it now! I'm using it for two years already and nothing can be compared to opera even slightly.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

One more great free alternative!

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

I've been hard on this browser before, and rightly so. However, this version has come a long ways. The removal of the ads is a huge step in the right direction and it seems to render pages far better than before. The rendering of Flash images is so much better than before too. Nice feature set and a pleasant overall surfing experience. At first, I could not see anything from my inbox on Outlook Web Access, but I fixed that by going to Tools->Quick Prefernces, then choosing "Identify as Opera" instead of "identify as IE". Not sure why that fixed it, but it did.

Yes, the developers have done a nice job with this version.

tp

tp reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

this was a nice surprise for the day.. i love opera even though it doesnt interpret some of my php and I cant figure it out..

better/easier ad blocking is something they need to do.. or integration for operaadfilter

Paradise-FH-

Paradise-FH- reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

I can't give this any higher than a two since it seems more than happy to annihilate my code that works identically in firefox and ie. If the code works identically in one of the most strict (firefox) and one of the loosest (ie) shouldn't it work in opera without any further tweaking?

[deXter]

[deXter] reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

"Woohoo!

The best browser becomes free!!!"

Man.. You beat me to it- I was gonna use the exact same words!

Lets see what excuses other-browser-fanboys can come up with now!

Can't wait for Merlin!

finalcut

finalcut reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

awsome browser but still too many sites that dont work
and even after the ua.ini file modification

now that the software is freeware, let's see if they will implement a real adblock extention plugin like Firefox AdBlock!

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Woohoo!

The best browser becomes free!!!

really, this is good news. I hope they will get significantly more marketshare now, so that websites will be forced to support opera (and firefox). I think this is good for the internet as a whole.

@Witchblade2002:

Bittorrent is not yet included in opera 8.5, it is still being worked on. The same goes for RTF, it will all be available in opera 9 (codename Merlin). Read more about opera 9 here: http://weblog.timaltman.com/node/794

donpacman

donpacman reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

This is a gift from the good people of Opera!!!

Enjoy All.

* Opera will not slow down your system but, it will improve your Internet experience.

Witchblade2002

Witchblade2002 reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

omg..its freeware now...just now firefox got a new competitor.

pros
-got torrent feactures
-got addblock

cons
-Still no RTF formatting in GMail

nirmalv

nirmalv reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

wow !! imagine the sheer quality of browsing power now available to millions of users for free.

Dn't forget to use a ad blocker guys

http://www.monroeworld.com/operafilter/media.php

joshpx

joshpx reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Best, nuff said. Firefox zealots like gawd21 are lying about Opera because they know that this move will kill Firefox.

cyberguy

cyberguy reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Very quick and complete.

The only gripe I have with it is that it seems to still have some rendering compatibility issues with the sites I frequent (including my own). The message editors in my VBulletin 3.0.7 bulleting board do not render properly for me. Too bad. It loses a gold star for that issue from me because I can't use it in the sites I use most. Back to FireFox for me

gawd21

gawd21 reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Slows down Firefox and the system will slow down while you have it open. Junk.

midfingr

midfingr reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

OMG Freeware? That amazing. I haven't used it much; since it was a little pricey for a browser. But I was considering buying it anyway - oh well, I don't have to worry about that anymore :D

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

RESPECT!

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

OPERA IS NOW FREEWARE!!!

WOOHOO!!!

Best 3rd-party browser, period. FF doesnt stand a chance now that this is freeware!!!

robertguda

robertguda reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Good move to go free ! Good browser very good alternative to using only IE. they have come a long way and this latest move confirms their aspirations to become even better. differences between browsers (firefox, maxton, IE, etc) will always stay and serve as a good motivation to keep perfectionizing. hope they keep up the good works.

betabetabeta

betabetabeta reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Three cheers to Opera on going ad-free!!! I repeat my quote "Opera is a browser that will
survive for a long long time."

Metshrine,

You are talking about freedom of third party stuff...See how many crappy toolbars have ended
up in IE. And Firefox is also not going to be spared (The Nostradamus in me says..Unlike
Opera, Firefox growth will nosedive from its much hyped growth since the past 1 year).
Adware, Spyware, Virus, Bulls***... all will come in packaged as third party plugins; I hope
Opera never gives in to support such stuff.

Also about I am never in favor of saving
passwords, some rogue program/virus CAN still decode it.

And btw, what additional functions do you want, it has almost all useful/popular web browser
features. If you want more, put a feature request to Opera, I am sure they will at least think about it.

Also, as robodesign suggested try out UserJS, UserCSS and custom buttons.
Checkout http://nontroppo.org/wiki/BookMarklets
But again be careful with any of these and use them only from trusted sites.

lordnaastik

lordnaastik reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Now let me get something straight.Opera has been around for ages.it has been popular with the non IE
commitee.it is loaded with features.now suddenly a innocuos looking firefox comes around and clocks a million download in no time.There is a reason for it. Opera is not open source.it is not meant for older computers.it is and always will remain an excellent browser. But no where near firefox.
LISTEN UP !!!!!!!!
FIREFOX RULES

jessshaun

jessshaun reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

I've never been a fan of opera, simply because of their pricing. I have to completely agree with this move. I use Firefox, but it's nice to know that there is yet one more great free alternative to IE. Any free browser that is not IE is good in my book.

otero1

otero1 reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

One of the best , thanks Opera for going Free-Ware.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

If you want fast and great and FREE browser choose Opera !

Canuckistani

Canuckistani reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

I think a truly ad-free Opera so great. It's no secret that the less than geeky have a difficult time with gecko browsers and many have abandoned Firefox and Mozilla suite because they can't handle text based configuration and so on. Fair enough, not everyone is born with a sliderule up their butt, but they are going back to IE and that just means more infected computers pounding my firewall. An ad-free Opera just might be the happy middle ground Jane and Joe Sixpack can live with. While I will be sticking with Firefox myself, I certainly will be recommending Opera to IE users.

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Considering it's already tiny size, it's amazing that the download actually became smaller with the latest version. No registration at all now though; I knew that whole "Free Opera Day" was just a publicity stunt. So much the better though.

rpavl

rpavl reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Now this is a product that I can positively endorse...fireflop has a LONGGGGGGGG WAY TO GO...

robodesign

robodesign reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

To Metshrine:

Yes, it's true it doesn't allow extensions the way you want it to. Yet, you have not fully explored the possibilities opened-up by UserJS, UserCSS and custom buttons. These can add functionality, if properly used by developers, to Opera without sacrificing security and speed (of course it all depends on the developer).

I'm glad you like Opera, in general :). I like it too.

Mike

Mike reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

This is the first time I've tried opera since version 7 I think. This thing is pretty darn good!! I am utterly impressed. It loads as fast as IE, the interface is smooth and functional, and pages for the most part render quite nicely. If only it was extendible like firefox, this thing would be unbeatable.

Dolfhin

Dolfhin reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Firefox is even more insecure than IE and Opera is now free! Not A hard choiche ;)

gkar

gkar reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Great browser and now it is free, no ads, no registration. I recently upgraded to version 8, but I don't mind having paid for it. They cram a lot into a 3.7MB download. ***** Stars

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

To elaborate on my post below, this is a very high quality browser. This puts every other browser to shame, with one exception. While this browser is customizable beyond your wildest dreams as far as the interface goes, functionality wise it isnt very customizable. If I require the use of a certain application for my daily browsing, I should be able to use said application. Instead, with opera's closed nature (extensions create vulnerabilities, or so I am led to believe is their philosophy according to haavard on the opera fora, and as such they want to eliminate the possibility of this vulnerability negatively impacting their browser). This is the whole reason I use firefox. It can be customized in EVERY aspect. I dont really care that it is open source, as I am not about to hack the code, but I do like that I can attach an application that performs (to me) a much needed function and I am not limited to what the developers feel is "Good enough" for a certain function or what the developers have time to put in.

As I said now and in the post below, this is an outstanding browser, but I dont think that just making it free will appeal to as many users as they wish. Yes, it will appeal to alot more users, but alot of these users still like the idea of extensions and 3rd party addons, which opera simply doesnt allow. I will gladly make opera my primary browser, but I simply cant do that as I have invested alot of my time AND MONEY into other programs to make web browsing a personalized experience for me.

Plus to the user Dolfhin above, WRONG, firefox is not more insecure than IE, and we will see operas security put to the test now as more and more users get into it. Please dont flame browsers here, post a review of how it works, flames dont help anyone

To robodesign: yes, you can use UserJS and custom CSS Scripts, but that still doesnt allow you to do functions such as filling a web form, sending a command to the browser to go to a site and submit login info, or interact directly with the page so that when a button is pressed, you can be prompted whether or not you want to save your user login information for that site. This is just one of the programs (roboform in this case) that beats opera's solutions (the wand) hands down. Heck, if the wand saved my bankofamerica.com site's password properly I'd be happy, but it doesnt even do that despite me submitting numerous reports and getting flamed on opera's web fora for being a "noob". I have taken opera through its paces, I tried it as my primary for a good 2 months (plenty of time to evaluate it and more than an average user will give it, I am sure). As I said, all opera needs is a simple API to allow 3rd party programs interact with the browser (modifying pages, submitting info, redirecting output, etc). This doesnt mean opera has to allow extensions to be installed directly from a webpage (you should be required to download and run an executable installer). This would greatly eliminate the "security" risk that they are attempting to avoid.

As I said, please dont misinterpret my comments as flames against opera or that I dispise opera, because I dont. I just want them to allow 3rd parties to attach to their web browser so the developers dont feel they have to add every function under the roof to it.

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BetaBetaBeta: You wrote

"You are talking about freedom of third party stuff...See how many crappy toolbars have ended
up in IE. And Firefox is also not going to be spared (The Nostradamus in me says..Unlike
Opera, Firefox growth will nosedive from its much hyped growth since the past 1 year).
Adware, Spyware, Virus, Bulls***... all will come in packaged as third party plugins; I hope
Opera never gives in to support such stuff."

Show me one piece of spyware that has hit firefox? I have yet to see one that is due to an extension that is listed on extensionroom.mozdev.org or updates.mozilla.org. If you get your extensions from any place other than these two places or the extension makers homepage (which should be listed on one of the above two sites) then yes you are asking for trouble. As I expected, when posting this review, people have come to criticize third party plugins/extensions. And your point about third party toolbars, yes, there are lots of them, but guess what, people have different tastes, that doesnt mean you have to use every single one of them, but if there is one I want to use, I should be able to do so, I shouldnt be limited to what the browser has built in.

You wrote:

"Also about I am never in favor of saving
passwords, some rogue program/virus CAN still decode it."

Ok, so does that mean it should never be done? Because you are against it and that there is ALWAYS a chance of someone hijacking your data? If you keep your pc up to date, and keep your data secure (roboform, for example, allows a master password to access the data stored in its files, and as long as you use decent password creation rules, chances are a hacker wont waste the time or effort to crack it). Now yes, there is ALWAYS a chance of someone hacking your pc and stealing the data, but if you use a password that is very simple to guess, it wont matter if they hacked you or not because someone could have just as easily guessed your password should they want to.

By the way, check out admuncher (a commercial ($25 for a lifetime of updates). its a great ad blocker that works on ANY WINDOWS BASED APPLICATION that utilizes http for html page/ad retrieval. Yes, its not free, but guess what, it comes with a default list that is updated about 4 times per week and removes 99.9% of ads. Plus its getting new features every week.

MellonCollie

MellonCollie reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Awesomely awesome!

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Now 100% Free! If you are looking for an alternative to Firefox and IE look no further. It also comes with built in email.

d3bruts1d

d3bruts1d reviewed v8.50 on Sep 20, 2005

Opera has always been a great browsers. Power, speed, security. It has it all.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Sep 20, 2005

Regardless of 8.50 going free (which should have no basis in a review, if you ask me), I still stand by my rating of a 3. Until they open the browser up to third party extensions or toolbars (such as roboform which far exceeds the wands capabilities) then I will not give it any higher than a 3. There are so many 3rd party utilities that could easily expand opera's functionality given the chance, but opera chooses to remain closed source and limit you to what you can use with their browser to what the developers feel like adding. Opera is a great browser, dont get me wrong, and I would have gladly paid for it back when it was a pay browser, but I cant justify it if the browser will not grow and work with me HOW I NEED IT TO (KEYWORDS: HOW I NEED IT TO). Yes, You can customize it to no end, but what good is customization if I am limited to subpar functionality in certain areas. Remember, if someone wants me to use a piece of software, they have to show me how I can get all the existing functionality I am used to out of it, I shouldnt have to sacrifice the way I work just to get a few nice things. Firefox allows all that I want, expandability, customization, and works with several of my third party tools.

As I said, my goal here is not to bad mouth opera, because it is by far the best browser around, it just doesnt work the way I want it to.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Sep 20, 2005

Since yesterday Opera is free. No more ads!
It's time for all those who misrated Opera because of the banner to reconsider an evaluation.

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Sep 9, 2005

Great release. Stable as a rock. The bittorrent part does need some work (it tends to stall the browser when you start a big torrent download. It doesn't crash though).

I have big expectations for the next final release (new IMAP backend, massive rendering engine update, Bittorrent, etc...)

@randal2k:

There is no need to press ctrl + enter. Just pressing enter will do. You can even configure it if you want: tools > preferences > advanced > network > Server name completion.

As for personalized searches: This is possible. You can add your own search engines in search.ini in your profile directory. And you can choose your prefered default search engine in tools > preferences > advanced > network > search

randal2k

randal2k reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Aug 31, 2005

Nothing new here.. firefox, Maxthon and others have this all for free. It's in now way faster then my Firefox or IE standard. What is the big deal over this rogram? It's even missing simple things like ctrl+enter for adding .com etc...
it doesn't allow things like personalized searches.
Why use it?
I was hoping for big things fromthis browser.. Since the first i used it when it was small enough to fit on a single floppy. then it was good, now... it's way to out there.. to pay for this would be uninformed about better browsers.
I give it a 3, for lack of features, and price. Other then that.. it's a web browser...

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Aug 21, 2005

Simply the best browser around.

Zalan

Zalan reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Aug 15, 2005

Small and fast browser. Just the best.

papillonn

papillonn reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Aug 13, 2005

i think it is the fastest browser that i have ever seen but there is no roboform support so i couldnt use it,and also why torrent?There are a lot of torrent clients out there.
from me 3 points,-1 for torrent and -1 for roboform :)

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Aug 11, 2005

For the first little while, I liked this browser. After using it for a painful couple days, my opinion changed. This browser has some severe rendering issues. Those of you who call it the best thing since sliced bread are obviously blind to this fact. Do you people like the ads? I knew you would. Furthermore, it will slow to a mollasses-like crawl after an hour or so of surfing. Opera has the potential to be the best, but the developers have alot of work ahead of them to make it that way.

karlo

karlo reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Aug 6, 2005

Wonderful and fast! I hope rendering issues are fixed. Especially in BetaNews.

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 31, 2005

Hilliard-

Would love to read thru your list of "free browsers"
to see how many are just simple shell apps for I.E.
Opera is a slim, tightly coded browser that has been thumbing it's nose at I.E for years now with a great set of Options & features.Adding BitTorrent support is just the latest icing on the cake.

Hillard

Hillard reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 30, 2005

Christoofar question? Do you like the BIG flashing ad on this browser and the price you have to pay to get rid of it? Because if you do I can understand the Full rating. Easy to uninstall. Has a big flashing ad that you can rid for a price. There are better alternatives for free. Gave 3 because it was pretty fast, but there are other browers for free that if tweaked are just as fast if not faster. Opera is a more complete package than most. But, still not worth the time when comparing step for step because of the adware and they are still gonna charge you a price.

d3bruts1d

d3bruts1d reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 30, 2005

You really couldn't ask for a better internet suite. Yes, Opera is more than just a browser. ;)

Dennis87

Dennis87 reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 30, 2005

Opera is the best internet browser=D

jason_dal

jason_dal reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 30, 2005

Opera gives you the real internet experience.

donpacman

donpacman reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 30, 2005

"Much better than Firefox"

biggman15

biggman15 reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 30, 2005

I'm using 8.02.... The one that doesn't have Bittorrent... Considering I don't use or Need bittorent support... Is it worth Upgrading to 8.10?

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 29, 2005

agree fully with Alex, 2 or so below

BuFu

BuFu reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 29, 2005

Simple the BEST!!!

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 29, 2005

Speed & security = OPERA!! (www.secunia.com)

AlexBR1974

AlexBR1974 reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 29, 2005

Buggy, buggy, buggy!
Won´t use it again until the lazy Opera team fix the rendering and dozens of others little problems.
Get a grip, lazy guys!
Want the best, safest and most compatible surfing xperience? Get the perfect combination, Maxthon for compatibility and Firefox for speed and safety.

yusufjee

yusufjee reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 29, 2005

I like opera a lot. I download it almost every other new release but the only problem i have is that theys till dont have any proper settings for tab browsing like opening new tab from address baror search and so on. That is my only criticism. Runs pretty fast on my computer otherwise.

Zoroaster

Zoroaster reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 29, 2005

Rather than having a neat BitTorrent integration, I'd rather have a reliable web integration: I know it's not the browser's fault, but there are far to many web sites which do not display correctly; moreover, having to install manually this and that plugin is cumbersome. This is why I returned to IE, within Avant Browser: peace and fluidity are back... Sorry Opera, but I just couldn't stand it any longer.

dcaw8

dcaw8 reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 29, 2005

what is that VS, and where can i get it? some one please tell me

guti

guti reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 29, 2005

Amazing!

B3AN

B3AN reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 29, 2005

Still the best browser, but I don't see the point of bit torrent support.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 29, 2005

darthbeads, are you kidding? The current build (7685) is smaller in size than the previous one (7680)! You can check it by yourself. Do you call it "bloating"?
If you will not click torrent files Opera 8.10 will behave, look and feel exactly the same as 8.02!

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v8.10 Preview 2 on Jul 29, 2005

I have absolutely NO desire to have BitTorrent integrated into my browser. Talk about BLOAT!

Osama bin Laden

Osama bin Laden reviewed v8.02 on Jul 28, 2005

Simply the best browser so far...

gchenry

gchenry reviewed v8.02 on Jul 28, 2005

Opera 8.02 does not support bittorrent

but

Opera 8.02 TchnicalPreview 1 does

http://my.opera.com/foru...read.php?threadid=96020

looto

looto reviewed v8.02 on Jul 28, 2005

Rules. Much faster than Firefox.

a6

a6 reviewed v8.02 on Jul 28, 2005

not the fastet browser on earth for me... (netcaptor is faster on my machine) but surely the best (because of configuration abilities). i miss only some few features, which are not important for most of the browsing time... firefox can not match up to this one...

opera makes my browsing convenient.

Valhingen

Valhingen reviewed v8.02 on Jul 27, 2005

Great browser!
No complain except one..
It should be free as any other browsers..
No adware just like FF and IE or any other browsers.
Why should Opera use adware while others not?
I would gladly give it 5 as a rating if not because of the adware
Sorry for the broken english.

Dolfhin

Dolfhin reviewed v8.02 on Jul 27, 2005

I've had some huge problems with firefox leading to a lot of data los and frustration and I'll stick with Opera. Opera is the fastest, safest most feature rich browser I know of and more important it dind't delete my freaking bookmarks!

Firefox is a timebomb and something will go wrong and you will lose data. Stick with Opera until firefox is mature enough for serious stuff.

biggman15

biggman15 reviewed v8.02 on Jul 27, 2005

darthbeads, You said it yourself...
"Frankly, FF with a ton of extnsions loads faster and renders better for me."

For you.... On My computer FF is Bulky and slow.. Opera runs smoother in Everyway... I haven't had any problems with Opera...

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v8.02 on Jul 27, 2005

Firefox is the "slowest & buggiest browser on the face of this earth", eh? How many browsers have you, in fact, used, oh Lord of the Browser?

Opera is ok. Frankly, FF with a ton of extnsions loads faster and renders better for me.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v8.02 on Jul 27, 2005

i have no rendering problems anywhere w/ Opera-- the fastest browser on the face of this earth. Contrast it w/ FF-- the slowest & buggiest browser on the face of this earth...i'm a bit weary of constantly having to tweak & debug FF up the kazoo...though i'll take it over IE any day.

rseiler

rseiler reviewed v8.02 on Jul 27, 2005

It's not declared final right away, allowing for any last-second problems that people find, so consider it a release candidate with a very real chance that it will be the final.

[deXter]

[deXter] reviewed v8.02 on Jul 27, 2005

Well Opera team ISNT lazy as a matter of fact... Just see the plethora of features being integrated into Opera, WITHOUT slowing or bulking down the browser! On the other hand, Firefox makes no significant improvements with a release; besides I still get the Firefox / Deer Park 'consuming too much cpu' bug inspite of no-extensions and clean installations.

As far as page rendering bugs are concerned, its present in ANY browser, even IE. They are due to poor webdesigning, not due to poor coding of the browser. As far as I personally am concerned, I havent come across a single such site that renders badly in Opera. But mention Firefox, and voila! Slashdot comes on top of the list..

But I still dont understand why we are Firefox-Opera bashing.. Instead we should come together and bash IE!

chinch

chinch reviewed v8.02 on Jul 27, 2005

is this a beta still or what? the opera page doesn't even reflect the release of an 8.02 version yet.. and the preview page still shows only the TP1 has been released. anyone can clear this up?

AlexBR1974

AlexBR1974 reviewed v8.02 on Jul 27, 2005

It is indeed an beautiful browser. Has the looks!
But... it has serious problems when it comes to rendering pages. Problems working with forms. Problems with pages fonts. And these problems come from previous versions of Opera. It seems that the Opera team simply don´t care about them.
Firefox, on the other hand, used to have such problems too, but the firefox team really does a great job, improving the software more and more. And firefox 1.06 is just fine now!
I find that Maxthon and Firefox are the best combination for surfing the web.
I understand that you Opera fans are just like Microsoft haters. You cannot take a bad review. Well, too bad.
Opera team, stop being LAZY! Wake up!

B3AN

B3AN reviewed v8.02 on Jul 27, 2005

Best browser by far.

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 14, 2005

A super browser that is faster, uses less memory and has more built-in features than either Firefox or Internet Explorer 6.
If it only had an Adblock plug-in as good as the one for Firefox. Until then use Admuncher.

Zalan

Zalan reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 13, 2005

Lightning fast! :-)

hypatech

hypatech reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 11, 2005

Opera sucks Firefox and Deer Park Alpha 2 Rule!Do the switch today!

karlo

karlo reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 8, 2005

Wonderful, I hope that their rendering issues are fixed.

d3bruts1d

d3bruts1d reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 8, 2005

The latest official release of Opera (8.01) is great, and 8.02TP1 with the added BT support is even better.

I'm really glad to see that Opera Software sees the demand for BT support.

FataL

FataL reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 7, 2005

Now more users will use Bittorent protocol instead of FTP or HTTP to download files, because Opera make it just simple as usual download.
I think, after Opera releases this version (this is technical preview - even not beta) they start provide Bittorent link to download Opera, so they will save their bandwidth.
EDIT: Actually they already provide a link to torrents: http://torrent.opera.com/
So, Opera just come with one more really good innovation to browsers world!

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 7, 2005

Opera is the best of the best!
here is your tip for the day:
in the Transfer windows there is a icon with
eye glasses that says view
open this icon and select
"show transfers in the background"

-Lord-

-Lord- reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 7, 2005

As soon as they fix the fact that when you start a down load you are forced to the Transfers tab, I'll give it a 5. They need to put in an option to down load files in the background and notify you when they're done, like it happens when you manually close the tab. I HATE that tab popping up every time.

serby

serby reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 7, 2005

Best Internet browser!!! ;)

gkar

gkar reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

Opera is really the only browser out there that keeps up with the latest discovered security flaws, according to http://secunia.com they have left only 1 flaw unpatched since version 5.xx till present 8.xx and it was a minor one in 5.xx and 6.xx. I have not purchased their browser since version 6.xx, I feel they are a little rigid in their upgrade scheme, but that's their choice...their browser is the best. Go to http://secunia.com and see how I/E, Mozilla, Firefox etc.. still have quite a few unpatched flaws, many of them long going. BTW: I have found no rendering flaws as of yet, and the cookie manager is good..They need to incorporate an adblock feature that way I can stop using Proxomitron...though I'm not sure I would.

donpacman

donpacman reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

Opera is a must have!

FF Fanboys will be trolling over this. :))

jshrk

jshrk reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

Says Adware cause it contains a advert in the browser (up top) unless pruchaced real cheaply and well worth it, no point moaning about it, Opera wouldnt be the best if it didnt have it. BTW Seinfeld get your facts right before you start moaning about it, you'll find that Opera have been improving the core of the program which is why it runs so much faster and smoothly since 8, you can make your own keybrd shrtcuts/even voice shortcuts. Go back and hide under your rock, come out when you ready for it.
Superb ideas and functions from Opera love it, Firefox good for quick on-the-go computers, find Opera fanatastic on static computer used all the time with time to personalise and investigate all the features.

tvadakia

tvadakia reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

ArabianNight, it says adware because the free version contains non-destructive/non-intrusive banner-ads. The paid for version does not.

My second favorite browser and it deserves a 5+. I'll be interested to see where they go with the addition of BitTorrent support.

ArabianNight

ArabianNight reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

nice...why does it say adware though?

Seinfeld

Seinfeld reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

Opera is loosing the point. I want native XSLT support, Rich text editing (c'mon, even Safari has it), better javascript support and godammit, fix the stupid text selection bugs and remove the double click selection menu.... AND add some common keyboard shortcuts like IE or Firefox.

guti

guti reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

Opera was the best browser since version 7, with release 8, it is not also faster than before, but also packed with useful features.

stisev

stisev reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

Will you Firefox fanboys stop posting your idiotic chatter in here?

This is a review about Opera. Most of you probably even haven't used it yet.

[deXter]

[deXter] reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

Its amazing that they can add all these and STILL manage to keep the size down.. While Fx* without any plugins at all still is much larger than Opera..

This proves that we can have tons of features built into a single browser seamlessly without bloating it up- Opera does that gracefully.

And about buying Opera for removing the Ad: you don't really need to. If you really like Opera but don't want to buy it, you can participate in the Affliate scheme to earn your own Legal License for free! For those who are lazy, you can simply use an Ad Blocker to block the ADs displayed in Opera..

(* The correct shorthand for Firefox is Fx and NOT FF, according to Mozilla)

biggman15

biggman15 reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

I like Opera... But Why Bittorrent...

GhoS

GhoS reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

Great idea to add BitTorrent support, however it still isn't enough to cause me to buy a browser when such an excellent one as FF is available.

crashoverride

crashoverride reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

I'll give em a 3 for having the idea of an integrated bittorrent client. I still find Firefox faster and I don't have to buy Opera to get rid of the ad which i do not have to do with firefox. Also as i have commented time and time again with Firefox I get a choice of what features I want.

Tene

Tene reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

Simply genius, I suppose they have nothing to lose in their situation, they have a select audience & end user base, therefore ... Well they'll roll convenience & optimisation into one package. The one thing they don't have is coverage.

Bittorent support & still a low download size.

To sum up, genius.

computershack

computershack reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

Why does Opera need built in Bittorrent support?

...because unlike FF, you can't add extensions.

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v8.02 Build 7668 Technical Preview 1 on Jul 6, 2005

Why does Opera need bitTorrent support?

For that matter, why does ANY web browser need bittorrent support?

UTAKER

UTAKER reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jul 1, 2005

EXCELLENT (although you might want to buy it as compared to other competitors, that is the only drawback, otherwise it is simply the best out there)

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 21, 2005

Surprised of so many positive comments. I have tried and made Opera my default browser for about 2 years. And today I say goodbye and good luck. For some time Opera appeared slow; it took me time to figure out why. It seems that my bandwith is divided by 2 with Opera compared to Firefox and IE, which means I am losing about 3 mb ! No wonder about the speed of browsing... I don't know if Firefox is the best but compared to Opera browsing is lightspeed... Sorry Opera.

xippon

xippon reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 19, 2005

I'm very glad that Opera is all the time better.
Buy it and you will be glad of great software.

distinguished

distinguished reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 17, 2005

I use Opera all the time, except when a website is written incorrectly and needs firefox. I have removed internet explorer entirely with xplite. The only hassle is when I logon to yahoo, and have made Opera identify as Opera, yahoo redirects me to secure logon, and makes me type out the letters in the image. If I could identify as firefox, only for stupid yahoo mail, I'd be completely satisfied.

vinczej

vinczej reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 17, 2005

Opera 8 is the most handsome, extremely customizable, expandable with JS. Step by step less bad sites (better and better UA cloaking, but because of that unfortunately detected as not Opera in the market share tests :( ). And inegration with M2 is super. Not perfect, yet, but clearly the best!

donpacman

donpacman reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 17, 2005

Opera kicks Firingfox square in the nuts.

guti

guti reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 16, 2005

Best browser ever!

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 16, 2005

This is a great browser, would be alot better if they allowed (even whitelisted, determined by the opera developers) extensions. I would love to be able to use opera as my primary browser, but I cant due to some of the extensions I use (Not browser specific ones either, roboform works with every other web browser, except for opera) and have already invested my time/money in. I would gladly support opera, if they were to impliment some way of making 3rd party stuff work in the browser instead of trying to put everything in themselves and make it "use what we put there, or nothing at all". The wand is very tedious, for those of you who will recommend it, and it doesnt have near the amount of functionality that roboform does (no auto-form fill, no login button to go to a page and login). Even using the wand for its designed functions is tedious, as it doesnt save some sites passwords correctly. You cannot edit passwords that are stored either, which although is a minor security risk, if you required a password prior to editing them, the risk is greatly reduced (I know there are some users who will make their password common and easily guessed, so nothing is 100% foolproof).

By the way, as others have pointed out, opera was NOT NAMED browser of the year for 2005, it won the WORLD CLASS award, firefox has the product of the year.

By the way, to the reviewer below who removed his entire first review to criticize me, show me WHERE in here I said "opera doesnt work with opera". A review is an opinion, and I pointed out WHY I dont use opera, what functionality it lacks, and so forth. Opera is a great browser, hell, it deserves more than a 5, but I cant give it anything above a 3 if I cant make it do things I WANT IT TO DO. The web browser is something that a user should be able to customize HOWEVER they want, not just stuff like editing an INI file (which isnt very convenient for most home users who dont even know what an INI file is) or through the options avaialble in its preferences section. Firefox has opera beat in the fact that any 3rd party app can tie into it and add functionality, yes there is a security risk, but as of yet, I have seen no security warnings about ANY of firefox's many many extensions or any of the 3rd party utilities I use with it.

Also, I do criticize it because it doesnt support my "favorite" plugins. Why? Because I have invested time and money (Yes, I have paid for several of the addons I now use on a daily basis) configuring and setting up my plugins to make the browser do what I want. I should NOT be required to rid myself of these when they offer better functionality than the opera dev's can provide and work for me already. I should not be required to change the way I browse because a developer doesnt feel allowing third party programs into the browser is a good idea. To win over a user, it has to do what that user wants, and how that user is used to it. I dont mind relearning something, but only if the alternative is equal in functionality to what I am used to, if it lacks, I dump it.

just_recovered

just_recovered reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 16, 2005

Ok browser Ok update, still have problem with certain pages.I have used both firefox and opera. Still prefer Firefox. Firefox extensions allow greater customization and options. Also the comment about firefox and PCWorld was a little misleading. Firefox was named product of the year. Really don't see that much difference in speed for opera and other browsers, considering I am on broadband it seems no different and at other times slower than other browser. Course I don't have time to get the stop watch out to measure the load time, cause I really don''t care that much.I am not a fantatic regarding firefox or opera, a browser is a browser long as it gets the job done.
Overal opera is still a good browser, I like many of the features and wish it much success and by the by the google ads are annoying.

sQin

sQin reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 16, 2005

Not so stable, sometimes craches. Very few download managers integratin well to Opera. also it doesnt support many useful plugins. Overall its simple, fast and quality browser

asellus

asellus reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 16, 2005

To Zankur and ModderXManiac:-

Opera doesn't won the PC World 2005 World Class Award. In fact, Opera are rated third behind Maxthon (1st) and Firefox (2nd). Opera Software has since withdrawn their misleading press release.

http://www.betanews.com/..._Opera_Clash/1118436090

Opera is a good browser though (will be much better if they can get rid the ads). Anything is better than IE, even Maxthon itself.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 16, 2005

I love this browser. I've been using it for about 8 months now. And I always look forward to updates to the worlds best browser ^.^

Yeah, sure, one part of the update is "Recomended security fixes" But surely, none of you have been hacked since v 8.0 This browser works flawlessly.

Opera has been named best browser of the year 2005 in PC World Magazine.. And Firefox didnt even come close... Surely that must mean something?

I'll also note that this is not a beta.

Lastly, if the adware tag frightens you. All there is is a small adbar near the top of the browser. It is ran by google ads, so there's no need to worry. Besides, thats the reason this browser is free.

The worlds best browser just got even better. I recommend this to anyone who wants a safe and productive internet expierience.

*edit, I'm on dialup. So I would surely know if something is faster or slower. And v. 8.01 is faster than 8.0!

WOOT!

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 16, 2005

i never write counter reviews,but i will have to for metshrine's review.Have u even thought about what u wrote in your review,u critized a product just because it doesn't support some of your favourite plug-ins?????????????
"opera doesn't work with opera",o for god's sake,don't be a toddler,ok!
and it made me laugh my gut's out on your review,sorry it's not even a comment.
U haven't even described even 1 of opera's feature,maybe u haven't even used this new version!! and as for maxthon being voted ahead of opera,u just can't compare a ie clone to a fully fledged suite of opera,plz be more mature in reviews!!!

Raxim Koron

Raxim Koron reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 16, 2005

Excellent software; I've used it for quite a few years.

One problem I have with it now is that banking sites look to see what browser you're using instead of actually analyzing what it's capabilities are. Using the quick preferences, if you choose "identify as Internet Explorer" it fixes their lazy programming though.

Also, they've started to implement RSS capabilities into the browser, but it's in it's infancy (I can't get it to pull more than 25 posts at a time from a feed).

It all comes down to preference and I prefer Opera over Firefox

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 16, 2005

httpd.confused, until now, i've read all your comments with eyes wide open. From now on... nevermind...
http://193.69.116.22/ - uuuu... I'm scared... Click & see... incredible - opera's start page :P

lgjivic

lgjivic reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 16, 2005

Simply the best browser EVER!!!!

But there's only one thing missing - autocomplete.

Are we about to see it soon?:)

slickandy

slickandy reviewed v8.01 Build 7642 on Jun 16, 2005

This is now officially available (ie it's on opera.com). Anyone who downloaded before June 16 should probably double-check their build number to ensure that they're not running the 8.01RC that was pulled shortly after it was "released".

Fast, stable, secure, standards compliant browser.

plings

plings reviewed v8.01 on Jun 7, 2005

httpd.confused is a liar and a FUD meister. Opera 8.01 isn't even available as a final version yet.

Firefox zealots like httpd.confused who spread lies about other browsers is the reason why Firefox fans have a terrible reputation all over the web.

joshpx

joshpx reviewed v8.01 on Jun 5, 2005

Opera "phones home" by loading a page on startup? Yeah, like Firefox and IE "phone home" when you load the homepage?

Talk about FUD. Did you know, Opera actually "phones home" all the time to check for upgrades? Just the way IE and Firefox do?

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v8.01 on Jun 5, 2005

Opera 8.01 now phones home when launched

(Please note: The above URL may become invalid, due to Opera Software reps changing the thread ID in order to try hiding it, without taking the obvious step of deleting it completely. In that case, please simply search the Opera forums for "phoning home" and/or "search.opera.com".)

A home page can be changed or disabled. Firefox lets you disable the default home page upon installation. Opera 8.01 connects Opera servers each time it is run, and this (apparently) cannot be changed. There is no comparison. Weekly update checks are different than something that connects out each time the software is run. Also, those update checks can be disabled entirely.

Try again.

Dolfhin

Dolfhin reviewed v8.01 on Jun 4, 2005

Excellent browser!

More than recommended it's simply the best

UTAKER

UTAKER reviewed v8.01 on Jun 4, 2005

simply perfect for the purpose of webbrowsing

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v8.01 on Jun 4, 2005

The Best is getting better!
I am happy to pay for Opera!

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v8.01 on Jun 3, 2005

For those who are paranoid about Opera "phoning home", just create a rule with your pc firewall as follows... Action: Block | Protocol: TCP |Direction: Outbound | IP: 193.69.116.13 ...Done!

You could throw in UDP if you want.

This is one fine browser indeed. It's interface has a few minor issues such as a greyed out Navigation bar and the ads are annoying, mainly because they rob about 1/2" of viewing area, but it's hard to ignore everything else that make it such a slick product. I especially love the feature that allows the placement on the Tool Bar of quick-launch icons to websites, it's eye-catching special effects and it's overall low impact on my system. The secure site certificate analysis and reporting feature is very impressive as well. Until now, Firefox didn't seem to have any serious competition. As much as I like FF, Opera now might become my browser of choice.

tre2004

tre2004 reviewed v8.01 on Jun 3, 2005

I love Opera, and do you wanna know what one of my favorite things about the browser is? When you click on a Pic on a page, you don't have to close it out, or GO BACK to get to the other pics to choose another one, Just hold the Left mouse button, and then tap the right mouse button, or HOLD the right mouse button, and move the mouse Left OR RIGHT, & I think you can even use SHIFT + Z OR X to go back and forward. It really does save allot of time, and makes Porn so much better :P
That, is just one of my favorite things about OPERA!

nirmalv

nirmalv reviewed v8.01 on Jun 3, 2005

vanalex: have you tried
http://www.monroeworld.com/operafilter/

for adblocking? It's far better than adblock

LatestGadgets

LatestGadgets reviewed v8.01 on Jun 3, 2005

Opera has created a highly versatile platform for a range of users - from those seeking a fast and secure internet experience all the way to adapt IT professionals with demanding email demands. It is technically superior to any other major browser and email suite. It is highly customizable and powerful. I strongly believe that by using Opera for several years, I have been spared the nuisance of trojans, viruses and pop-ups that overwhelm the other browser. A more advanced Contacts database would complete their supremacy.

deadmonkey

deadmonkey reviewed v8.01 on Jun 3, 2005

I am very impressed and very happy using Opera 8 as my primary browser. Excellent all round application with only a few minor annoyances. Seems to run much better over long periods of time than Firefox however it still lacks the power you can give Firefox via extensions. I would love to see an open plugin system for Opera in the next major release.

nant`

nant` reviewed v8.01 on Jun 3, 2005

Please note that this is not the official 8.01 release.

Untill it shows up on the main Opera.com page, it is subject to change...

That said, Opera rocks! :D

Tene

Tene reviewed v8.01 on Jun 3, 2005

Best browser out there bar the latest Firefox nightly builds. Infinite improvement over pre-v8.0 Opera.

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed v8.01 on Jun 3, 2005

By far the best browser out there today. Beats Firefox by a considerable margin.

VanAlex

VanAlex reviewed v8.01 on Jun 3, 2005

Excellent application, fast, stable and efficient.
I really love the wand for password management, the only thing that keeps me using Firefox is the lack of an add in as perfect as AdBlock...

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v8.01 on Jun 3, 2005

Looks very promising so far! My reported crashers are fixed. The gmail memory leak seems to be gone. It's MUCH more responsive on page load (I wasn't able to click any tabs while other pages were loading).

Conclusion: opera 8.01 is what opera 8.0 should have been!

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 24, 2005

...speachless...

15.06.2005:
http://193.69.116.22/ - uuuu... I'm scared... Click & see... incredible - opera's start page :P

larsk

larsk reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 23, 2005

Regarding "dsilvia"s comment:

I never asked questions about the environment because those details just weren't necessary to answer the questions.

Actually 4 of 6 requests (all regarding Opera Mail, namely "importing contacts", "composing html mails", "saving mails" and "invoking mail without opening the browser") were answered in less than 24 hours.
The 2 requests left both dealt with one problem with Adobe Acrobat Reader plugin. I first pointed to the FAQ as it contains detailed instructions on how to install Adobe Acrobat Reader plugin. When those instructions didn't solve the problem I sent another mails with a solution, but dsilvia had already uninstalled Opera.

A refund was initiated on May 18th, the money should be returned within 3 business days after that.

nirmalv

nirmalv reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 11, 2005

Dsilvia : as far as i know Opera opens separately within the acrobat reader itself.Personally i prefer that,but i can understand your point of previewing it.Maybe you should have tried the trial and then tried to buy it .

RavenTS

RavenTS reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 9, 2005

To sophist_dreams:

You said:

"This thing is not industry compliant no matter what they claim. In order to access a long list of web sites (including but not limited to NPR, ESPN, Hotmail, AOL online mail); you must go to preferences/network and identify it as either IE 6.0 or Mozilla 5.0. Yes it is fast, yes it seems to highly adaptable, no it wont go to MSN chats or groups even if it is identified as IE 6.0 (it does however if you identify it as Mozilla although certain features dont work, go figure that one out for me). The question that I have is: if this thing is so revolutionary and complies to all industry standards as the authors claim it does, why does it need to identify itself as another browser type to work on web sites?"

Because most pages you mention work fine in Opera as long as they let it in! The use browser-detection scripts that are five years old to distinguish between Netscape and IE (those scripts have mostly been fixed to include FF, too). At that time it had its merits - Opera versions 4 and 5 (and to some degree, ver6) had bad support for advanced technologies like JS and DOM.
But since version 7, there has been no need for this!
As they still shut out Opera, it identifies itself as IE or Mozilla to be let in.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 8, 2005

I've kept Opera 7.64 on both of my XP boxes. Tried 8.0, but find it more difficult to navigate. I'll wait until they get some of the kinks out of 8 before I switch.

zeon

zeon reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 8, 2005

To dreem katch3r, it should be fine to just install this over 8.0. Although it is a beta, little has changed and it should be fine to just replace your 8.0 install with this. Worst case scenario if it performs worse for you, you can always install 8.0 final back over the beta (but I doubt very much that'll be necessary). If you're feeling paranoid you could back up your Opera directory somewhere else to be safe, but in my experience this isn't necessary for minor upgrades like this.

dreem katch3r

dreem katch3r reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 7, 2005

So, can someone please tell me if I install this seperate from 8.0 or if I install over top of it. Cause I am confused, this is suppose to have bug fixes for 8.0, but this is a BETA, so I guess I am suppose to install this SEPERATE from 8.0??? Just want to make sure before I try it. And, if I do install this seperate from 8.0, is there any reason for me to use 8.0 anymore? Or just start using this one.. since it is 8.0 W/ Bug FIXES??
THANX

Dolfhin

Dolfhin reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 7, 2005

Don't mind sophist_dreams obviosly be is a troll and doesn't know what he is talking about (this release doesn't fix the hotmail junk folder problem).

Opera is a decent, fast and secure browser with some REALLY nice features that you will fall in love with. If you like Firefox you have to give Opera a try, You'll love it!

lemonlovr

lemonlovr reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 7, 2005

To the person with the question about using Azureus with Opera...I've been using it with Opera for a while. I'm not sure what you're asking it to do specifically, but all I do is click on a .torrent link and opera will ask me if I want to open, save as, etc...when I click open, it goes straight to Azureus. I suppose I could also set it up to automatically open if I wanted to. Unfortunately I'm out of town right now so I can't tell you what my exact settings are. But if you want to e-mail me I can let you know as soon as I get back. My e-mail is lemonlovr@comcast.net.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 7, 2005

Citius, altius, fortius.

to tamahome320, actually you can also assign it by yourself. Go Prefences-->Advanced--> Applications or Programs (I am not sure the name, because I do not use the English version of the browser, so you have to figure out by yourself)--> and you can manually add that e.g. e2k:// links will be open by emule.exe, torrent:// or magneto:// links can should be open by something different you use (unless you use Shareaza which a multiprotocol p2p program). I hope it made the thing a bit clearer.

to dreem katch3r, install it as an update. Opera AS always writes "install it in a separate catalog" but believe me that nothing bad will happen if you update Opera 8.0 with the preview version.

zridling

zridling reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 7, 2005

I just can't get over how fast this version is — dang, way to go Opera! — and with none of the security headaches Firefox brings lately.

[deXter]

[deXter] reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 6, 2005

Excellent!

Marcin Świerczyński

Marcin &#346;wierczy&#324;ski reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 6, 2005

In my opinion it's the best browser.

Marcinneekk23

Marcinneekk23 reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 6, 2005

Still beter and better :)

jshrk

jshrk reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 6, 2005

I love you opera!!

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 6, 2005

Absolutely great. This release is a LOT more stable then 8.0! Espacially the Gmail fix is very welcome!

This release is merely a stability bugfix release. And a very welcome one!

@tre2004 (again ;)): Yes, that is right. If you want you can install this preview on top of your current isntallation (this is not recommended, but I didn't have any issues in doing so). So there is no need to uninstall anything.

If you have more questions I encourage you to take a visit in opera's beta forum: http://my.opera.com/foru...y.php?s=&forumid=31

@tre2004: The build you are currently using is 8.0 final. This release is a preview release for 8.01

Read here opera's defenition on preview releases: http://snapshot.opera.com

Release notes for this preview: http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w801p1.html

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 6, 2005

Firefox + 1,000 plugins + (even better security) - (ridiculous amounts of your time wasted finding, installing, configuring, and updating extensions) = Opera

I find it funny when Firefox (read: free software) fanatics slam Opera. They fail to realize that Opera was the originator of many of the features they take for granted. (This isn't directed at anyone here; just an isolated comment. And yes, I do like Firefox.)

UTAKER

UTAKER reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 6, 2005

This is the webbrowser I have been using for quite sometime. It is excellent and I tried IE and Firefox but they did not change my mind

Cons: Either gmail should support it fully or it should support gmail in the future :) although it works
If you don't buy it, you will see a few ads whereas other rival webbrowsers do not have that problem

tre2004

tre2004 reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 6, 2005

jonspencerbx,
So this is a seperate install from 8.0 final then right? So, should I uninstall 8.0 final, and just install this one, cause from what I understand it is pretty much bug fixes to 8.0
So, therefor it has everything 8.0 has, but a few of the bugs are fixed? RIGHT?

betabetabeta

betabetabeta reviewed v8.01 Preview 1 Build 7583 on May 6, 2005

Long Live Opera!!!
Ad blocking (like pop up blocking) has become an absolute necessary for web browsing nowadays...
Did you know Opera itself has an ad-blocker. Though its not found in its UI, it is present in an .ini file..Refer the instructions for UI for ad block here...
http://www.monroeworld.com/operafilter/
(works for Opera 8 also)

glassdesigns

glassdesigns reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on May 3, 2005

Great browser. Use it with ad muncher.

hugh750

hugh750 reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on May 1, 2005

i downloaded opera version 8, and i agree that it's fast,but when you backup your bookmarks in html and try to use it in internet explorer or firefox it will not work (the backed up bookmark),and some websites will also not work properly as well.
dow not download!

princeofpentacles

princeofpentacles reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on May 1, 2005

the best browser available simply.i have tried firefox too(i agree firefox is a bit faster when customized, but its not even half as stable as opera).opera is the most polished browser in the market todayand yes the new version is even better.

boogeyman

boogeyman reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on May 1, 2005

Some problems when watching some websites, but its a good browser. Its fast (trough realy fast caching) and its safe. But not so good as Firefox. ;)

jcs83md

jcs83md reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 28, 2005

Decent browser, can't even display ESPN.com correctly yet tho.

betabetabeta

betabetabeta reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 22, 2005

I did not know what to write here...any amount praise for this browser would be less...So I posted this page's links in all the popular browsers pages telling people to try Opera...Hope more and more people will try this wonderful product.

* Page rendering: Best compared to all IE based browsers and Firefox. Though some pages are not rendered as desired..but I guess "Report a site problem" is a step in the right direction...Folks, do help Opera by telling them pages that do not render properly.

* UI: Best compared to any damn browser.

arvind

arvind reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 21, 2005

It's a brilliant browser. Very fast and very stable. Just a couple of annoying bugs though :

* It doesn't render some pages correctly. I know most websites are coded with IE in mind, but those sites seem to open in Firefox properly. Opera seems to have a problem.

* I like the Firefox way of RSS feeds. It's just too damn crappy the way Opera handles RSS feeds.

Well atleast Opera finally supports Gmail (completely). If the above 2 problems can be sorted out, then Opera is the best in the word. Period.

Maximus-Sniper

Maximus-Sniper reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 19, 2005

Hi :)

This version of Opera ROCKS :) It's raly fast and good. It's one thing i missing or maybe i did't found it on some settings. It's that in Firefox and IE, they remember the words you are writting in search field or in username files.

hishadow

hishadow reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 19, 2005

Could have been a good product, but that annoying blinking AD-logo in the new version is just plain foolish. If they remove the animated AD, then maybe I'll go back. Until then I'll stick with the Firefox.

tewa

tewa reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 19, 2005

having been using it for many years. Not the perfect browser (doubt there will ever be) but it is better than firefox and much much better than IE.

iandol

iandol reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 19, 2005

Opera have cemented their position as maker of the most advanced browser available. The list of killer features is too long to mention: the major ones being the new security core (certificate exposure, popup despoofing and the most advanced IDN control around to stomp on phishing), many rendering enhancements (even more performance in a smaller package supporting many more standards), revamped user interface (simplified, but still customisable if you want to tweak), uber-powerful user javascript control (see http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/userjs/ for details), Fit-to-width rendering rewrites pages so you don't have to fight scrollbars. This and more sits on top of their existing solid feature set of fast-forward, mouse gestures, ultimate customisation, note taking, RSS aggregation, user CSS, advanced Zoom and many others. This is seriously well made and well thought-out software...

avdven

avdven reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

I've been using Opera for a few years now (since 3.0) and have yet to find a better browser. I've tried Mozilla, Firefox, MyIE, and IE. I still use IE for WindowsUpdate, OfficeUpdate and a couple corporate Intranet pages, but use Opera for everything else.

My only complaint is that this new version (although supposedly the final release) still shows "Opera 7.6 Preview" in the title bar.

fwet

fwet reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

Great browser. Fast. Stable. Highly configurable.
I only want one more thing from the Opera community... something similar to the Adblock extension for Firefox. That's it.

CGA

CGA reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

Absolutely the best, and this version is even faster then 7.xx which was blazing. Also highly configurable.

lgjivic

lgjivic reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

hmmmmm... is this realy final realise??!! Why can't one download the final realise from the official site? Confused....

Anyway, final realise or still beta.... the best browser ever:)

jshrk

jshrk reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

Been using for almost a year now and am blown away by the technology and features with this browser. I was bit sceptic of the voice control feature, but its absolutly amazing! With almost no configuration needed it recognizes different accents and voices with ease and responds correctly about 95% of the time. Was also put off by the side bar and rubbish skin until i realised i could remove or change the browser interface to whatever i desired. Truly an amazing browser.

Marcinneekk23

Marcinneekk23 reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

"Simply the best internet experience" :-)

ciwir

ciwir reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

I use it from about one year and it is the best browser on earth :-)

In Polish: Poleacam wszystkim, naprawde swietna przegladarka a na dodatek jest tez polska wersja :-)
Link do Polskiej Opery 8:
ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/opera/win/800/pl/ow32plpl800.exe

Dolfhin

Dolfhin reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

Best browser ever!

Not only do they offer a FREE upgrade for people that bought Opera 7.0 they also managed to sneak in a lot of features that made me addicted to this browser.

I love the way Opera handels my RSS feeds, I can even set up filters. Opera also displays a message if one of the RSS feeds has new messages/ I prefer that above the way Firefox does it but that's just my personal opinion.

I've been browsing the web for a long time and i have way to much bookmarks but Opera allows me to organize them perfectly! Have I told you that RSS feeds, E-mail, Bookmarks and History are searchable?

I also could tell you how much I love the MDI (opera was the first with a MDI) and how fast Opera is compared to IE (and sometimes firefox) on my slow computer or about those thousands other things that make Opera the browser I love so much but why don't you just try it?

Opera features so many great things, it's one of those few things I WANT to spend money on! It greatly reduces the stress and makes web surfing enjoyable again!

I've used Firefox before using Opera but Opera just seems to ''fit'' me beter.

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

Opera 8.0 final is really fantastic. It's all the little details and the superb features that make it the best browser out there.

To RehabDJ: The upgrade from opera 7 to 8 is free!! (as you could have read on http://www.opera.com/).

mrgrieves

mrgrieves reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

Unbelievably tight if you can't afford $15 to upgrade...!! That's hardly breaking the bank. But you can get the ad-version if it's too expensive for you.

The thing is Opera is a company and they have to make money somehow. In my opinion, you DO get a higher quality browser (and RSS reader!) than you do with Firefox anyway. But everyone has their own taste.

Not sure if this is an official final release or not, but Opera has always been the best browser for me - big thumbs up for this.

(EDIT: Just installed and with my Opera 6 licence, which was upgraded free to Opera 7, it looks like I'm still registered and don't need to pay! Wahey!! It also doesn't say "Opera 7.6 Preview Release" for me)

RehabDJ

RehabDJ reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

I used Opera for several years to avoid IE. Now if I want to use it again, I will have to pay for the upgrade. I can not justify this with Firefox being free and just as good. Sorry Opera, you are good, but you can't compete with free.

xemul

xemul reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

it's the best browser on earth.

bello

bello reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

Opera seems to be much better than IE but there's only perfect browser in the world is Mozilla's FIREFOX. trust me guys ! i put both Firefox and Opera to the test and finally realised that Firefox is the coolest ! just simple and smarter!

anede2002

anede2002 reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

I simply love this browser. It has everything, i need. it is easily configurable and ....

the most important part is that it is designed somehow u like to press the new-tab button. because it does not give a feeling that u press a huge new page like firefox and new beta netscape. I use also firefox, but not as much as Opera!!! Go sweden

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

5/5 :-)

uranos227

uranos227 reviewed v8.00 Build 7561 on Apr 18, 2005

I like Opera.

Drewz

Drewz reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Apr 14, 2005

The new Opera is awesome. I rarely crash anymore, compared to the 7xx's, its gets a 5+ in my opinion.

ikki

ikki reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Apr 13, 2005

The best browser you can get!

UTAKER

UTAKER reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Apr 10, 2005

The Best Browser around,
but the only negative part if that it is adware supported unless you pay and get registered.

SubversiveTyrant

SubversiveTyrant reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Mar 26, 2005

I like Opera, but I also like Firefox. I have being going back and forth between Opera and some gecko based browser for quite some time now. I find myself liking the gecko engine over Opera's but have always liked the features in Opera better. Features such as integrated mouse gestures, the ability to turn off images and have them NOT load (unfortunately I'm presently on 56k), the reload every X feature, a good rss feed reader, and my favorite: the automatic return to the last session feature.

The one thing that will be the downfall of Opera is its lack of support for user made extensions. Had it beaten Firefox to the table with that it might have come out in front in the long run, but the extension list has become far too robust for Opera to really catch up.

That said I have finally come up with a list of extensions that allows me to do everything that I could in Opera (with the exception of Opera's very convenient RSS reader). Following the above order here they are: Mouse Gestures, Web Developer, ReloadEvery, and SessionSaver. I also use Tabbrowser Preferences, Gmail Notifier, WebmailCompose,c Disable Targets For Downloads, AutoMarks, CookieCuller, BetterSearch, and Flashblock to further enhance Firefox beyond what I can do in Opera.

Hope this list is helpful.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Mar 16, 2005

to richwise - I am not sure if I understand you correctly (I am not a native speaker). You wrote: "(...)I have found myself going back to Firefox because - I can close a tab with double-click(...)". Well, Opera 8.0 tabs can be closed by clicking "x" that you can see on the right of every tab :-) Single clicks will be enough :-D

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Mar 15, 2005

This is a nice browser. The only thing annoying about the ads is that they take up about 1/2" space off the top of my meager 17" monitor. Otherwise, as other reviewers have stated, it's definitely not as resource hungry as Firefox. FF also has that annoying propensity to once in a while keep a firefox.exe process running, even after the browser is closed, causing a XPCOM: Event Receiver to freeze the desktop when attempting to log-off. Still, there's not much to choose between these two excellent browsers.

BTW, I love the sarcasm in httpd.confused's reviews!

heybirder

heybirder reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Mar 15, 2005

Opera is fast with a small memory footprint. Firefox is fast with a large memory footprint. I've used Opera for a while and think it's very good. That said, Firefox simply has the edge due to its extensibility. Go look at the extensions available. You might think some are frivolous, some useless but there would still many that quite handy. Opera does not offer comparable features so please stop with the blanket statements.

Litespeed

Litespeed reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Mar 15, 2005

Opera 8 is the best browser, IMO.

To Penta... "Well, Firefox is free, Opera isnt. Firefox allows you to add extensions you want, Opera doesnt. More than one reason."

When I used Firefox I had to load it up with Extensions to get the functional equivalent of Opera. And it was slower.

kerebos

kerebos reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Mar 15, 2005

No ego when they say there the best browser in the world, its true :)

Opera is free with a catch, ads :(, you have to pay to remove them completely without a trace

Also you can disable any extention you want, for example if you dont want the email part, just disable it and it wont load, same goes for everything in opera.

Opera uses less memory then firefox, etc etc, i could go on, but thats my own opinion :)

Pantagruel

Pantagruel reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Mar 15, 2005

Lurifax :

"Actually, I can´t think of a reason for using Firefox in stead of Opera. But I guess ignorance is a bliss."

Well, Firefox is free, Opera isnt. Firefox allows you to add extensions you want, Opera doesnt. More than one reason.

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Mar 15, 2005

So far no problems with this release, and Opera is on the way of releasing the best browser ever. Beats Firefox, for sure. Actually, I can´t think of a reason for using Firefox in stead of Opera. But I guess ignorance is a bliss.

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v8.00 Beta 3 Build 7522 on Mar 15, 2005

The best, fastest, and most-secure browser out there. (Yes, including the beloved Firefox.)

I love the fact that I can make it look and work the way I want, without wasting time and energy on 20 different extensions, many of which don't work properly any damned way. I'll leave it to the Firefox users to be at the mercy of dozens of independent third-party volunteer developers. (All those extensions are reliable and secure, right? Hahahaha...) Me, I prefer for the people whose software I use to actually be accountable for it.

The recent Opera 8 betas have been working very well for me in every way.

To quote a reviewer above:

"Well, Firefox is free, Opera isnt."

Really? What does Opera cost you? It has an advertisement, and you can use it without paying, as long as that advertisement remains. Does this cost you anything? No? Well gee whiz and holy crap, in my part of the world, we call that "free". Oh, sure, you can desperately cling to the notion that it's not "free" because you give up the ability to use it without an ad... Or some stupid notion like that.

"Firefox allows you to add extensions you want, Opera doesnt."

More like: "Firefox needs for you to add extensions, Opera doesn't."

heybirder: Yes, Firefox has some extensions that offer functionality that Opera cannot match. Take the U.S. Homeland Security Threat Level extension, for example. Opera can't touch that.

Being serious, a search toolbar is the closest thing to an extension that Firefox has, that Opera does not. Most everything else is just crap. And all of those extensions have the pain-in-the-ass version-dependency issue associated with them.

Destino

Destino reviewed v8.0 Technical Preview 5.1 Build 7498 on Mar 9, 2005

El navegador es muy bueno, es una pena que empresas grandes como google lo dejen de lado.
Como pega a estas betas le falta optimizar el manejo de memoria. Y algo que noto que siempre he querido es que habra las descargas en background.

Bueno espero lo disfruten. Saludos desde Argentina!

bts

bts reviewed v8.0 Technical Preview 5 Build 7497 on Mar 5, 2005

Opera really shows promise with version 8. It's as fast as ever and has some much needed features like update notification and report a site problem as well as a cleaner interface. Once 8.0 final is released everyone using older versions should upgrade immediately.

joshpx

joshpx reviewed v8.0 Technical Preview 5 Build 7497 on Mar 5, 2005

CapZap, how about paying attention before whining about a PREVIEW?

The Window menu is there if you turn on the advanced Opera workspace in the Windows preferences.

Oh yeah, and how is Opera 8 not "mean and lean"? It's a LOT cleaner than older versions. What top, bottom etc. menus?! It doesn't even show the PANELS by default.

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Oh yeah, and this jofin character and his "adware" comment...

Why wouldn't people install Opera because it's adware? IT DOES NOT install adware on your PC, as the ads are BUILT INTO OPERA!

So there's no spyware or anything, so quit spreading lies about Opera.

CapZap

CapZap reviewed v8.0 Technical Preview 5 Build 7497 on Mar 5, 2005

I've used Opera for many years -- since Netscape dropped the ball. I don't know how anyone can effectively surf/search the net without the built-ins that Opera has. Great program.

That said, these preview versions don't have the "Window" pull down menu which is a disaster for me. If this menu isn't put back in by the time this new interface is put to bed, I guess I'll just stick with an older version.

C'mon Opera -- have a heart and do the right thing. Don't fool with the menu structure. As it is right now, the first thing I did was turn off all the menus -- top, bottom, side, wherever. This is all crap. Opera has made it's way being lean and mean. YOu wander too far from this baseline and you're gonna be in trouble.

dougau

dougau reviewed v8.0 Technical Preview 5 Build 7497 on Mar 5, 2005

The main reason I prefer Firefox is the price, Firefox is free and a add free Opera isn’t. Its still a nice program if you don’t mind the adds or are willing to pay $39.00 for a browser. I’m just not convinced its worth it value wise.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v8.0 Technical Preview 5 Build 7497 on Mar 4, 2005

Opera is an excellent browser. I do not know if Firefox is better than Opera, or vice versa. I guess it depends on personal preferences. I prefer Ferrari, but some other people may prefer Lamborghini :-). Both are very good. I prefer Opera.
I do not pay much attention it is shareware/adware - I worked for a long time with ads (actually, it is not a classical form of adware - the ads advertise Opera itself only, and the browser does not connect any site what adware programs do), but I bought the browser around 4 months ago. BTW, there are many discounts, so check if you qualify. I did :-)

I do not take Internet Exploder into my consideration. It is one more upgrade of NCSA Mosaic. ROTFL! FF & Opera are much better. Bill Shakespeare would call IE "much ado about nothing".

Finally, I agree that anyone who published key for any software (independently what kind of software) should be immediately banned and his post removed.

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v8.0 Technical Preview 5 Build 7497 on Mar 4, 2005

Please read this before downloading and istalling Preview 5: http://my.opera.com/foru...p?s=&threadid=83349

photonboy

photonboy reviewed v8.0 Technical Preview 5 Build 7497 on Mar 4, 2005

I prefer Firefox, but I've found the stability and speed of Opera to be excellent and perhaps marginally better than any other browser.

I might even use it as my main browser if it was free. I don't think people are going to continue to buy Opera when browsers such as Firefox and soon the new Microsoft IE7 become even more improved.

*I agree with faja, this is no place to provide an ILLEGAL key. Any such user should be blocked PERMANENTLY.

Lord_ProtoZz

Lord_ProtoZz reviewed v8.0 Technical Preview 5 Build 7497 on Mar 4, 2005

faja, ha-ha-ha-ha... You know... There are so much warez sites... That your words sound so fondly...

jungle!

jungle! reviewed v7.54u1 on Feb 26, 2005

Simply the best browser ever -- for Firefox to do what Opera does by default already, one would need to download and install dozens of plug-ins, thus making Firefox eat even more memory. In my opinion, nothing is a fast as Opera. Once you get used to its mouse gestures, you will be hooked.

betabetabeta

betabetabeta reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 26, 2005

Simply the best browser. Firefox is its nearest competitor (I give Firefox a 3/5 rating) and IE obviously sucks(1/5-Just 1 for, it's engine is used to make decent browsers as Avant Browser). Some people are arguing just because it is not freeware. When the quality of the product is so high you have to pay a price for it. BTW, Opera offers students/educational discounts. Keep the good work guys....Opera is a browser that will survive for a long long time.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

My favorite browser, fastest, best tabs management. In fact, it was the first browser to EVER have tabbed browsing anyway.(Opera corporation came up with the idea)

This program has no real adware, AT ALL. All there is is a small advertising window ran by the Opera Corporation themselves, so If you find any adware of any kind from this browser, then go ahead and sue them, or me, if you sue me, I'll call you a dumba** because I'd know your full-of-$hite.

Anyway, best browser ever, doesnt have the compatibility problems that Firefox does, the tabbed browsing is easier than anything else, and no security issues what-so-ever.
If you dont like the ads, then buy the program, its worth every penny.

I'd give this 10 stars if that were possible.

Stefu

Stefu reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

Very good browser! The fact that u can use the program for free and full with just little ads and not just for a time period make's it a very usefull program. It displays frendly ads no spyware or malware just like FlashGet who is another good program. Who don't like the ads coud buy the program!

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

Opera's free version does contain ads, but the company has a strict policy of not monitoring your surfing habits, and it does not gather information about you or your system. Opera may lag due to the fact that they dare to charge for their software, but it doesn't take away from the fact that this is a great, VERY user friendly browser. It pioneered many of the cool features that Firefox has now adopted and IE eventually will. Keep it up Opera.

jofin

jofin reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

Just why someone would choose to install adware on their computer seems beyond comprehension.
Either pay for the adware free version or get the totally free Firefox or even IE or dare I say it, Netscape Navigator!
Is it any wonder Opera lags so far down the browser table?
Added 1st March:- how could anyone take seriously comments made by ModderXManiac? The program is listed by Opera themselves as adware! Why become abusive? If you want to post comments and reviews - then do it but try and realise that you do not have a monopoly on opinions and there is certainly no need to be abusive to other users!

Wes

Wes reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

Opera is simply my favorite browser, and Beta 2 has finally made 8.xx usable for me (the progress bar issue was just too much for me, so I have been sticking with 7.6tp4). I prefer it over Firefox because it seems less 'clunky' than FF on Windows, and it just seems more oriented towards Windows in general (Firefox is a great browser for Linux, and Opera's Linux build is sluggish, so don't misunderstand me).

Speed is the main reason I use Opera. It has always been advertised as the fastest browser on the web, and I'd have to agree. The way it manages its cache is simply too good; after using it (bear in mind that I have dial-up), I simply could not bring myself to use a browser which reloaded pages I'd already visited if they hadn't been updated. I love it.

blackblueocean

blackblueocean reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

@daverage

It didn't seem any faster?! Weird really. Till now I've read various problems/limitations/disadvantages of Opera compared to other browsers, but never the issue of speed, especially when you put IE in the game. Guti's link below just reconfirms the general belief once again. Maybe there's something wrong with your system or your perception.

@photonboy

Never really had any problem with configuring Opera. It might not be as easy as opening a door for instance, but you have plenty of options to choose from. I also don't understand your difficulty in dealing with bookmarks. It's just like working with files in windows...is that complicate for you as well?

4 stars cayse I don't believe in perfection and I do think that Opera faces some issues with stability still.

nekkat

nekkat reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

daverage:

What the heck are you on about? "Javascript parseing is bad"? It isn't! Opera's JavaScript support is top notch.

You are just repeating the tired old lies Firefox fans have chanted about. The fact is that none of you whining about lacking JS support in Opera have a clue. Come up with SPECIFIC EXAMPLES if you don't want to look like fools.

photonboy

photonboy reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

Pros:
-quick loading of webpages
-excellent security
-configurable

Cons:
-must pay to get rid of the Ads near the top
-does not have many of the extensions available for Firefox

If I didn't have to buy this I would seriously consider switching. It will be interesting to see what happens when Microsoft's IE7 comes out this year. (Also free)

daverage

daverage reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

Ads are just not cool. How many people reviewing this (i don't count the people just giving 5/5 bumps as reviews) are using a cracked version i wonder?

Javascript parseing is bad as a few people have mentioned.

The CSS support is first rate as is the tabbed interface.

Didnt really seem any quicker that IE or FF

Security wise much the same as FF

It looks pretty and seems less clutered this time compared to a few version back.

To be honest it really falls down on the ads and javascript parsing. Rendering is much the same as FF and just need web devs to write site properly.
Nothing special really. Now lets see how long till this gets a couple of 5/5 1 line advert bumps? Write reviews not ads guys!

pleionis

pleionis reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

Surf the Internet in a safer, faster, and easier way!!!!

punkesito

punkesito reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

the fast browser for all plataforms

Dagaz

Dagaz reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

am a web dev sorta and got to agree with guitar guy. FF is still great, IE is well IE and this has still got some way to come.

stisev

stisev reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

The Best Browser Ever Coded.

Hands down.

yagood

yagood reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

Simply the best.

guitardave78

guitardave78 reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

Not sure what to say about this.
It seems to not support javascript that works in IE and FF perfectly.
It doesn't support the xml dom properly when used from javascript, again written to work perfectly in FF and IE
CSS support is good, but no better than FF.(everything is better than IE for that one!!)
Again when CSS is used with javascript is flakey compared to FF and IE.
Ads are just plain irritating, especialy when you dont see any others using ads on thier free software.
Looks nice.
You say don't compare it to FF, but you have to compare it as it is in direct competition with it. To be honest the bad out weighs the good. As a web developer it is not worth while changeing scripts that work in FF and IE to work with opera.
Nice but not anything great

Babylon2x

Babylon2x reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

niti, I strongly disagree with your comments. Concerning ram usage, I have no additional extensions installed with Firefox yet I find it uses slightly more ram than Opera does on start-up. Further more, when I did a simple test with tabbed browsing (I used Opera and Firefox to open the same 4 pages in different tabs), Firefox used around 10MB more than Opera did to do the same thing. Firefox is a good browser, but I don't personally feel it's ahead of the game.

To review Opera itself, I think it's an excellent browser and it's always getting better. I still find some small rendering issues from time to time, but overall it works very well and is relatively light on system resources, particularly when using its tabbed browsing feature.

VikingBlade

VikingBlade reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

Still find Opera excellent with it's real tab support. Just can't get use to FF with the TabBrowser extension, with it's occasional tab session corruption error, and the way it mimics full tabbed browsing (opening up a new page before placing it in tab). Don't see what's wrong with Opera's adware. The same as if you were using google normally.

gawd21

gawd21 reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

"License: Adware"

Pantagruel

Pantagruel reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

niti, stop comparing Opera with FF. Both are good browsers, I find myself using Opera more than FF for many several reasons. Opera has everything you need.To make FF convenient, you have to add some extensions, which make memory usage and other characteristics almost identical. To each his own.Both are great browsers.

niti

niti reviewed v8.00 Beta 2 Build 7483 on Feb 25, 2005

Yes, opera and firefox are good browsers.

Sgt. Rock

Sgt. Rock reviewed v7.54u1 on Jan 22, 2005

I think this is the best browser I ever used !
Very user friendly.....

Andyfromnorway

Andyfromnorway reviewed v7.54u1 on Jan 18, 2005

The best bowser i have ever used, it really rocks, it's so handy to use as you got very good overview over everything you do at the net, history and transfers is just a click away. Its very easy to change the buttons. and windows how u want them, it takes some time to get used to all the functionalities but it really comes by itself,(mouse gestures is a simple but extremely handy tool) it's mostly easy to understand. hey i liked the default skin...had a comfortable color.
It's fast and it does not just have a nice popupblocker but it works as a GREAT ad/spyware blocker,(adaware and spybot never finds anything anymore) as most of the s*** u get from the net is made for IE. I often wonder an find it a bit funny why people still use IE, must be because they like to do things the hard way ;-).

A great Workspace or funspace :-D

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 28, 2004

Cute Interface but still it renders pages incorrectly. Specially my site http://www.karlo.co.nr

Except for the input boxes, everything looks exactly the same in opera and FF. Are you sure FF renders it correct? Opera AND IE do exactly the same thing...

The comment for opera not rendering every site correctly is true, but this also applies for firefox. As long as developpers continue to develop their sites only for IE and not work according to the W3C standards, there will allways be sites that won't work correct in opera or FF.

Blackhole8746

Blackhole8746 reviewed v7.54u1 on Dec 27, 2004

COmparing this version with IE6 it's great and much better than Netscape. However the new generation of Opera is gonna be out, and it will probably beat the upcomming IE7...

karlo

karlo reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 26, 2004

Cute Interface but still it renders pages incorrectly. Specially my site http://www.karlo.co.nr

Look at the Shoutbox and News. Check it on Mozilla Firefox or any Gecko-based browser, then Check it on Opera... see the difference? don't forget to check it on IE too...

iandol

iandol reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 24, 2004

Opera is continuing in reducing the busyness of the interface - adding some features to the UI toolset to enable simplification of dialogs etc. The current beta is very stable for me, apart from when adding RSS feeds where it can crash erratically - but because of the session system I can restart Opera where I left off!

Opera is looking great for a final release, and we hope, as it is based on a new core, some more surprises are ahead. The free upgrade for V7 users is brilliant, and the licence has ben relaxed to allow multiple installations on mutiple OS's - Paying for V6.0, and upgrading to V7 and now getting V8.0 for free has ben an amazing investment...

Wes

Wes reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 23, 2004

Opera is lovely. It's the only browser I use.

Firefox is okay, but Opera is more stable. It's native Windows software(?), and it just seems more stable and less choppy.

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 23, 2004

Opera now uses between 10mb and 15mb mem usage. Firefox uses between 30mb and 40mb.
HA HA!

JoshP

JoshP reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 23, 2004

Erm, Opera's JS parsing is fine. The problem is sites using browser sniffing to break Opera. If they just sent the same thing everyone else is getting, it would work fine. There's nothing wrong with Opera's JS capabilities.

Firefox sucks. It's bloated, slow, unstable and has terrible JS support. And it's terribly insecure due to the extensions (think ActiveX and MSIE).

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 23, 2004

Edit: I love Opera, prefer it over everything else, I've been a registered user since version 2.12, but I'm revising my rating because the crashes are too damned much for me. This thing crashes on me constantly, and I'm sick of it.

Now, don't go being a moron and telling me that it's beta, so I should expect that. For one thing, it wouldn't matter to me--it's a beta listing, and it gets the rating I see fit, regardless. And for another thing, the most-recent final (7.54u1) crashes just as often.

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So, what--7.60 became 8.0? Whatever. This version has stability issues on my system. But then, the 7.54 final does too.

I love Opera, but a few things about it still bug me. The cookie handling sucks to an incredible extent--you have to delete them manually, and no third-party utilities can handle it for you. (Don't even try telling me to screw with Opera's cookie settings, to deny new cookies and so forth--that is a NON-answer.)

Josh P.

Josh P. reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 23, 2004

Erm... Opera is neat I guess, but its JS parsing needs some work, and I really really hate the ads. Firefox is free, adless, and has better, imho, javascript support.

pleionis

pleionis reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 23, 2004

THANKS OPERA!!!

chimpypimpy

chimpypimpy reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 23, 2004

Simply the best web experience.

TheMajesty

TheMajesty reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 23, 2004

Love this browser! :)

blackcherry

blackcherry reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 23, 2004

exactly.

eddie

eddie reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 23, 2004

nant`:

Why would BetaNews hold off on posting a beta? Isnt that the point of BetaNews?

Herb.alone

Herb.alone reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 22, 2004

Opera for Windows without Java 8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1
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I have been using Opera for a couple of years now and this version is as good as previous releases.
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I'm using Netscape with dial up accelerator and Opera runs faster than IE, Firefox, Avant etc.
Keep up the good work Opera.

singwolf

singwolf reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 22, 2004

Where did 7.6 go???

nant`

nant` reviewed v8.00 Build 7401 Beta 1 on Dec 22, 2004

Just a small note regarding v8.00b1 - It is not yet officially released. No changelog is currently available and it may get pulled back if needed, so hold your horses about reviewing this...

BetaNews should know better than post this so soon.

Higgy

Higgy reviewed v7.54u1 on Dec 14, 2004

This version addresses several security issues, ranging from uncritical to moderately critical.

See this link:
http://www.opera.com/sup...supsearch.dml?index=782

codeforge

codeforge reviewed v7.54u1 on Dec 14, 2004

For those of you wondering whats new in this release (7.54 u1) it is a security fix update. Refer to http://www.opera.com/sup...supsearch.dml?index=782 for more details.

Anyway, Opera is definately a 5 star product and has been my browser of choice for a few years now. Highly recommended.

jshrk

jshrk reviewed v7.54u1 on Dec 14, 2004

I don't understand what this version is. Is this a newer preview version, a stable preview version, or neither but just the normal opera? Someone enlighten me please.
Love opera, best customizable and easiest navigation, always thought default skin looked rubbish and made the browser look cheap but put on gd skin and whole new browser :)

faja

faja reviewed v7.54u1 on Dec 14, 2004

I'll give it a good rating, just cause it works. One of the things that truely annoys me about opera is the tabs toolbar being above the back/forward toolbar. This is pretty much the only browser that seems to mix these things around. How about an option to drag the toolbar's wherever you want? I personally find it annoying having it switched around.

fatray

fatray reviewed v7.60 Build 7364c Preview 4 on Dec 12, 2004

This version wont run on my system. First time this ever happened. Installing an older version fixed the problem.

capandjudy

capandjudy reviewed v7.60 Build 7364b Preview 4 on Dec 6, 2004

Get the latest version (build 7364c). This fixes a mail viewing bug. Fastforward, Rewind, and most importantly, the refresh icon have been returned to the right click context menu. A few bugs I suppose but I am impressed with 7.6!!!

fightback

fightback reviewed v7.60 Build 7364b Preview 4 on Dec 4, 2004

This probably has as many new errors as it does fixes. I gotta stick with 7.54 till they get some things straightened out. Some of the annoyances that I noticed within the first couple minutes were that yahoo mail gets weird when you load mail.yahoo.com in a session and then try to check your mail, scrolling from a mouse seems to lag a bit, logging into myspace gives a weird new window opening, some pages wouldn't load images at all (hit g a couple times to make sure that wasn't the problem). At that point I decided to stop considering this version to replace 7.54. Although gmail works, so that's good...

coba

coba reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 26, 2004

I found that this version can check Gmail account. What the nice and fast browser on earth, thanks OPERA.

iandol

iandol reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 20, 2004

First off - remember these previews are PRE-BETA; they are intended to test out more radical changes to a small set of testers.

Having said that preview 3 is really great. The interface is tighter than ever, though I imagine more changes are instore before a public beta. A new customisable start toolbar drops down from the address field with things like your history, top 10 sites etc. Previously closed pages and blocked pop-ups are put into a trash can on the page (tab) bar - a neat touch. Everything is much more slimline and minimalist.

The Extensible Rendering Architecture (medium screen rendering), though still with some bugs, is shaping up nicely. The idea is that you'll never have to scroll badly designed web pages, they will be dynamically reflowed to fit your screen resolution!

Sadly, voice control doesn't work on my soundcard, but several users are developing powerful stylesheets to allow Opera to function as a screen reader.

Good stuff overall...

Dave_K

Dave_K reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 14, 2004

Opera 7.6 p3 has removed most of the clutter. The menus are slimmed down and there are less toolbars on by default.

But when it's so easy to tweak the user interface I don't see what the problem is anyway. If you don't like a toolbar or feature you simply turn it off.

It took me about 2 minutes to configure this preview's UI to be exactly what I wanted, it's not much hassle.

I haven't had any crashes yet, it seems very fast and bug free for a pre-beta. It's easily worth 5 stars and IMO is better than the 1.0 release of Firefox.

rabeed

rabeed reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 14, 2004

Squire72: CLUTTERED?

Which version have you been using?

The 7.60 P3 default is far less cluttered than MSIE!

And what bloat? It's a far smaller download than either MSIE or Mozilla!

This is the best browser/email client ever.

Musashi_Sama

Musashi_Sama reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 14, 2004

Very compatible, even faster and lighter than Mozilla Firefox. No crashes in this version... A Five Star rate :)

semuta

semuta reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 13, 2004

I don't think the cluttered interface criticism is valid at all. Ths interface is extremely configurable and there are hundreds of skins to choose from. If you don't like the way it looks, change it!

Opera has become like a favorite blanket for me because it IS so configurable. I've got it exactly how I want it and the developers just keep adding more and more amazing features. I've tried Firefox a few times but keep coming back to Opera.

Squire72

Squire72 reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 13, 2004

Rabeed: I checked out the beta, and in the deafult configuration, it's still a mess.

That being said, with some tweaking, it can be made into a nice compact browser, with a clean interface. I still prefer MF, but that's just personal preference - the featureset any better or worse, and it definately matches up well :)

joshpx

joshpx reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 13, 2004

This is silly. Opera has great support for W3C standards AND nonstandard code. Its JavaScript engine is much faster than Firefox/Gecko.

Thumbs up!

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 13, 2004

@Inray, Opera fully complies with W3C, and for some webdesigners it is a huge problem. Put simply, they accustomed to deal with "de facto IE standard". IMO the policy of Opera AS is right. Comply with W3C or die. Most ironic M$ also belongs to the organisation, however, they do not respect anything what comes from it.

da3x

da3x reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 13, 2004

Opera was and is my Browser of choice for years. It has constantly improved its features and is unbeaten in flexibility and comfort when it comes to email and browsing.

Inray

Inray reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 13, 2004

I really liked Opera, that was the reason i've got it registered years ago. The problem with it is that authors like to develop new user interface parts, new utility functions (voice, RSS, chat) leaving the core untouched for years.

The real Opera issue is that core, the rendering engine. Maybe fast enough to compete IE or Firefox, but has many incompatibilities with W3C standards (CSS). Its Javascript implementation is also inferior, resulting in more incompatible web designs.

Sorry but i cannot rate Opera with more than three stars. An internet browser first must comply with W3C standards to be useful.

chimpypimpy

chimpypimpy reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 13, 2004

Opera is the best and has been the best for a very long time. Firefox fanboys like to dis Opera even though they haven't tried Opera.
Opera = FIREFIX.

Josh P.

Josh P. reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 12, 2004

It would have been nice for the screenshot to show the big annoying ads banner!

I never use any software with ads. Period.

I don't like Opera's rendering engine, its extreemly incompatible with even more sites than Firefox.. why pay for a stupid browser when you can get something better for free?

bello

bello reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 12, 2004

maybe OPERA much better than IE but mozilla FIREFOX
simply the best and eats OPERA all the way.
i tried a lot of browsers and i have to say FIREFOX is my favourite last 1,5 year and nothing can change my love for it.
so guys, go for FIREFOX !

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 12, 2004

Well, gee, let's see: Firefox has been plastered all over the news lately, and is free. Think that has something to do with its popularity? If not, just look on this site at how skewed reviews are, in general, based simply on freeware/payware status. The trend is as obvious as brightness while staring at the sun. (Note: None of this discourse is meant to convey that I dislike Firefox.)

Opera 7.60 Preview 1 was very unstable for me. Preview 2 ran very well, and so far, so is Preview 3. I've been using Opera 7.x for several months now, and almost *never* have to resort to Insecure Explorer.

I'd really love to see a list of web sites that Opera supposedly displays incorrectly, according to some of these reviewers. I have no such problems, and I do a *lot* of surfing. Let me guess--they're all under microsoft.com and msn.com?

I find it hilarious that people indignantly say that they refuse to use Opera because of its ONE ad banner. Think about it: The entire internet is littered with banner ads of all sorts, including this very site. And what is Opera? A web browser that graciously displays those ads for you. What's this you say, you use an ad blocker? Well, a good ad blocker will get rid of Opera's built-in ad, too. This is simply too funny!

mlevit

mlevit reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 12, 2004

Sorry to dissapoint you Zankur but the downloads tell the story. In the first 2 days Mozilla Firefox was download by over 2.1 million people. Firefox is the closest competator to Internet Explorer. So please if you feel like bagging an Internet browser that worse then Opera go find some other one, because Firefox woops Opera's arse 20 times over.

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v7.60 Build 7321 Preview 3 on Nov 12, 2004

I've had the opposite experience using Opera than some others here. Opera renders perfectly for me, especially with these latest builds. Firefox even in 1.0 chokes on a lot of sites and is still too buggy and quirky.

5+ for Opera

Lord Death

Lord Death reviewed v7.60 Build 7263 Preview 2 on Nov 8, 2004

Well i will give it a 5/5.

I have used Opera since 7.0 and i must say this browser is extremely good. I was on dial-up for almost 2 years, and it loaded webpages very very quick (compared to IE or other browsers).

I have tryed the new Firefox RC2 and i must say they are improving, however many websites still dont work. The connection refused thing is really annoying.

Here my comparision:

Opera:

Good side:
- Fast webpages rendering
- Almost ALL webpages work
- Very nice and clean look
- Tabs
- Back button brings cached page instantly
- Bookmark managmenet
- Password manager
- Good in-built mail client (no matach for Thunderbird tho)
- Allot of options
- Skins
- Address book

Bad:
- Cookie handling (needs improvement, when i disable all cookies, and then go to the cookie manager and edit a cookie, and set the domain to allow it, after i close the window it goes back to as it was again
- Cache (i would really love to see a system like Firefox has. Having several thousands of files in your cache is not very good and slows the pc down)

All in all its a great browser, and there is really no point of telling if Firefox or Opera is better. It just depends on what you like, in reality you cannot see a very big diference betwen rendering in either of them.

Also if you have a fast connection this might help you ALLOT (note that certain webpages might not work, however all webpages have worked for me so far):

Tools --> Preferences --> Network

Set:

Max connections to a server: 16
Max total connections: 32

It should improve loading of webpages allot if you have a fast connection. I would not recommend doing this with dial-up.

You can also try higher values.

Josh P.

Josh P. reviewed v7.60 Build 7263 Preview 2 on Nov 7, 2004

This program has potention, but it is not, in my opinion, worth paying for. The rendering engine render more site than even Firefox does incorrectly, and the javascript parser needs a lot of work.

koffliner

koffliner reviewed v7.60 Build 7263 Preview 2 on Oct 31, 2004

This is great... Opera continues to improve on things, and preview 2 has a really good looking and streamlined interface!

So it has a narrow ad strip, but it's a small price to pay for the best browser/e-mail client out there.

You can pay to get rid of the ads, a small price considering the huge number of useful features and the time you'll save by using Opera instead of, say, Firefox.

I mean, people keep going on about how Firefox and IE are free. But so what? They are clearly inferior and bloated compared to Opera. Opera is a tiny download packed with powerful functionality. Firefox is being hypbed because of its LACK of features! And extensions for Firefox are just Firefox's version of ActiveX, and we know about all the security holes in IE because of ActiveX...

Opera's really on the right track here. Can't wait to see the finished 7.60!

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v7.60 Build 7263 Preview 2 on Oct 27, 2004

It's so un-believeable,that developers at opera keep re-defining their own standards and keep coming up with brilliant new features.
It really makes me think what mozilla&netscape developers do?Realistically,they haven't done anything as compared to opera.moreover they take awfull long time to develop that trash!
Basically,mozilla has always been old wine in new browser version bottle!
Opera simply the browser of 21'st century!

konline

konline reviewed v7.60 Build 7263 Preview 2 on Oct 27, 2004

So disappointed... The screenshot doesn't show an obnoxious ad banner, so I thought I would give it a try once again. Guess what? Opera still has ads and wants $39 to get rid of them.

Why pay for a browser when IE is free? Even Mozilla Firefox (which seems much better than opera and IE combined) is free!

I think Opera is going to have to reconsider it's business philosphy if it wants to be competitive.

Musashi_Sama

Musashi_Sama reviewed v7.60 Build 7263 Preview 2 on Oct 27, 2004

Only Firefox can fight with him.
The instability has been improved but nothing good than Firefox... :)

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v7.60 Build 7263 Preview 2 on Oct 27, 2004

Simply the best browser. Absolutely nothing compares to Opera. Perfectly works with Java 1.5 (aka 5.0).

Khal_EL

Khal_EL reviewed v7.60 Build 7263 Preview 2 on Oct 26, 2004

Giving it a 5 star. Simple the best browser out there...

chimpypimpy

chimpypimpy reviewed v7.60 Build 7263 Preview 2 on Oct 26, 2004

Wow. Please don't believe me that this is the most advanced web browser in the world. Just download the "huge" 3,600kb program and try it for yourself. Incredible.

punkesito

punkesito reviewed v7.60 Build 7263 Preview 2 on Oct 26, 2004

the best

street_spirit

street_spirit reviewed v7.54 on Oct 9, 2004

best browser around, fastest, most secure and most features. Always found the browser very stable (unlike firefox). Course there is that little advert in the free version but hey it's not really that annoying. And to get exactly the same as the paid version for free is one mega great deal.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Sep 22, 2004

I love Opera, run it on Windows and Linux. I tried this, but missed the Java. I'm sure the final release will be a killer. Let no one kid you, Opera is the best browser around.

g4qb

g4qb reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 28, 2004

a possible reason to downgrade opera

set Multimedia preference to
Show cached images only

set quick preferences (F12) to
Block unwanted pop-ups
Enable plug-ins = OFF
Identify as Opera

load www.majorgeeks.com or one of the categories
eg
Anti-Virus
Browsers
Input Devices
Spyware Tools

sometimes the nav bar on the left takes up width of screen
need to refresh (F5) 2x to get it right.

this has been occurring since 7.5x

apart from this,
Opera is my favourite browser since
1 can turn off the images easily
it is not a M$ product
it used to be a small d'load

Inray

Inray reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 27, 2004

I like Opera, in fact i prefer using it instead Mozilla / Firefox. Unfortunately Opera developers, do almost nothing to fix reported bugs and incompatibilities.
Just adding new features like voice commands and the rest stuff, only makes Opera a feature rich application not a "better browser".

pohlman

pohlman reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 26, 2004

I'm a huge Opera fan and don't recommend anything else except maybe Firefox (which feels draggy and unfinished to me but that's just a personal feeling) but this version is crashing on about 20% of the sites with Javascript that I have tried. 7.54 is solid as a rock and gets 10 stars from me, but so far I almost can't use this version. Needs a lot of work from what I can see and the new features aren't what I need at this time. Give it a while and stick with 7.54 until this one's been worked on for a bit longer, I say.

fair_is_fair

fair_is_fair reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 26, 2004

I prefer this version. Opera gets better and better. The voice feature is nice for those who are typing-handicapped. There are a few bugs expected from a beta, but nothing serious on my machine. Opera's mail client still will not work with my pop3 accounts but imap is decent. Toolbars and such are less intrusive on this version. Speed is good.

Aires

Aires reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 26, 2004

I've tried Firefox and Opera and Opera is noticably the faster of the two - hands down. However this preview version must be a bit buggy, because somethimes when you click on links - _nothing_ happens. And for a browser that you have to pay for, it really should have a much better popup/advert blocker. But for speed you can't beat it.

Zulithe

Zulithe reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 25, 2004

Great browser, nice skin selection, but lack of an extention system, like Firefox has, puts it at a disadvantage, especially since there are many features I would like to see added to Opera (like better ad-blocking ability)

punkesito

punkesito reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 25, 2004

the best of the best
11 stars

Enamour

Enamour reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 25, 2004

Best browser on the planet...and no, it does NOT have ad aware in it.

5/5

rseiler

rseiler reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 25, 2004

Edward, the difference in size is because of the voice feature, though later in the beta or at least with the final version, they will offer a version that doesn't include voice.

This is a good page to go to for details on this release.
http://snapshot.opera.co...ndows/w760p1.html#notes

xsnslaine

xsnslaine reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 25, 2004

as a web developer, i have more problems with opera than any other browser, 9/10 i give up.

its over hyped

and License: Adware need i add any more

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 25, 2004

It's a good browser, of course, but I still don't like its interface, cookie-handling, or implementation of tabs as well as Firefox's.

I didn't take off review points for it, but I noticed this build is significantly larger than any I can remember. I'm assuming that's due to the presence of debug code, but if not, it's going to ruin one of Opera's clear advantages: size.

As I say, I much prefer Firefox, but Opera's tiny size had made it worth keeping around, even if only as a third browser, much moreso a second.

DigitalSin

DigitalSin reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 25, 2004

Opera owns, and I never thought I'd say that until I have it an honest try about 6 months ago when I was using FireFox.

jcgamer60

jcgamer60 reviewed v7.60 Build 7141 Preview 1 on Aug 25, 2004

The new voice browsing feature is amazing ive been using it all day. Opera just gets better and better

Drewz

Drewz reviewed v7.54 on Aug 18, 2004

Ive stayed with 7.23. I dont know whats happened but the 7.5s are so crash happy it aint even funny. M2 the mail client and the interface is better in 7.5, but I got so fed up of restarting and tinkering all the time to find out whats wrong, Im now back to 7.23. And its not like I dont know what Im doing, and the Opera forum is full of people with the same problem with the 7.5s and Ive been a registered Opera user for a couple of years.

Bahamut

Bahamut reviewed v7.54 on Aug 13, 2004

Best :)

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v7.54 on Aug 5, 2004

The best browser I know :)
Changelogs: http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/

moogleman

moogleman reviewed v7.54 on Aug 4, 2004

I've been using Opera since version 6.05 in 2002, when IE kept screwing up on me. Since then, I've used Opera for almost all of my browsing needs. While Mozilla and Firefox are good, I would recommend Opera for anyone who wants to customize the way their browser looks, and wants great functionality. Don't let the fact that it's adware steer you away.

bsr500

bsr500 reviewed v7.54 on Aug 4, 2004

Still my favorite browser, and has been for a few years. The only bad thing I can possibly say about it is it is not free (for no-ads).

distinguished

distinguished reviewed v7.53 on Jul 22, 2004

Opera has always worked with my banks and other secure sites.

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v7.53 on Jul 20, 2004

Opera is still superior to Firefox on one very important issue. Using Firefox, and scrolling down a page with other links (such as on ebay)after selecting a link & going there, then hitting the Back button to return to the earlier page, Firefox always starts you right back at the top of that first page, instead of the position on the page where you went from. Very annoying. I love both browsers & use them both. But until Firefox can work just as all the others do in that instance, Opera has the edge for me.

lavan

lavan reviewed v7.53 on Jul 20, 2004

I agree, you can't compare opera with Firefox, opera is great for someone who wants mail and web etc under one roof, where as if you just one a simple browser that's extremely fast and secure you can't fault firefox.

I've been using firefox and opera at home and at work, the only thing i use opera for at work is for the mail client so i can pick up my personal emails at work, 99% of the time I use Firefox, I plan to migrate everyone at work over to firefox as IE is too un-secure.

every now and then I have to use IE for my banking as they dont provide good support for mozilla based browsers.

it will still be a while yet before you get away from IE

voloda

voloda reviewed v7.53 on Jul 20, 2004

U guys are wrong about Firefox. It cant be compared to Opera because Opera is all-in-one package and FF is a standalone Browser.
FF is not yet vesion 1.0. It is free and Opera is not, because of the BANNER.

Buggle

Buggle reviewed v7.53 on Jul 20, 2004

Opera is certainly a very, very great browser. But yoou should not compare it to Firefox, because Firefox was meant to be only a browser, without too many options, simplicity being the key word. I think it is just what you are looking for. I find Opera having too much features, so I use Firefox. I just need to browse a bit. Firefox is absolutely ideal for that.

Inray

Inray reviewed v7.53 on Jul 20, 2004

Opera could be the best alternative browser IF its authors do some deep debugging fixing many of currently known bugs.
Anyway i still find Opera much better than Mozilla browsers.

Alex T.

Alex T. reviewed v7.53 on Jul 20, 2004

Opera rips through every webpage faster than Firefox and IE and it is my favourite browser of choice. And regarding the person who made the silly comment about ebay's picture service, that will never work in Opera of Firefox because it uses Microsofts inherently insecure Active X technology.

Gryzor

Gryzor reviewed v7.53 on Jul 20, 2004

Best browser ever... Used to be a Nestcape fan, and the Mozilla/Thunder series is great, but Opera is reeeally efficient and ergonomic...

kebabi

kebabi reviewed v7.53 on Jul 20, 2004

This is very good, but it uses too much of memory..
Maxthon uses much much less memory than Opera, but this has many good features that Maxthon doesn't (and I don't like to use plugins).

And why they can't release Changelist?

gkar

gkar reviewed v7.53 on Jul 20, 2004

They still haven't fixed the fact Opera cannot use Ebay Picture Services, so I would need 2 browsers Opera and Firefox or IE, but with Firefox I only need one browser. Opera is great, fantastic, wonderful but I only want to have one browser, so I guess I'll stay with Firefox which does work with Ebay Picture Services(oh yeah I mentioned that
already). To Alex T. above,,,,,Firefox doesn't use Active X either....I use Firefox on a 98lite install of Win98/SE WITHOUT "ACTIVE X" installed and EBAY Picture Services works...You are wrong dude!

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v7.53 on Jul 20, 2004

Yeah, Firefox is great because of its wonderful "extensions". The extensions that are always buggy, and never compatible when Firefox is updated. Whatever! There is no Firefox extension that lets you do half of what you can in Opera, such as modify every menu and toolbar to your liking, to the extent that you can launch external applications from it. I can change "Help" to launch Windows Calculator if I want to (though I have no plans to do so...).

mmebane

mmebane reviewed v7.53 on Jul 19, 2004

Second best browser. Firefox is the best. :D

Both are far better than IE. I say Opera probably works better out of the box, but Firefox can be made better with extensions.

kronix2

kronix2 reviewed v7.53 on Jul 19, 2004

A fantastic browser.

I still prefer Firefox. But that's just personal choice.

VikingBlade

VikingBlade reviewed v7.53 on Jul 19, 2004

Another fix to a security flaw in this version (7.53) I believe. An URL spoofing one.

PC Rat

PC Rat reviewed v7.52 on Jul 16, 2004

The Computer Rodent likes Opera v. 7.23 so much that he isn't sure he wants to upgrade to v. 7.5 !
Absolutely the BEST web browser. But don't count
on it for e-mail. The integral e-mail client is extremely primitive and feature-impoverished.

Bro. Rat

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v7.52 on Jul 15, 2004

I found a security flaw in Opera 7.51 and 7.52, and Opera Software's VP of engineering emailed me personally, and promised a timely fix. I think that's pretty cool. (No, I won't provide details on the flaw; not yet.)

And Bruce Schneier uses Opera. Enough said.

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v7.52 on Jul 7, 2004

Marvelous! The best keeps getting better. I want to love Firefox, but Opera still has it beat, especially since FF can't correctly return to you the same position on a page you've clicked a link on after scrolling it (i.e on ebay)
Opera opens & is off in a flash! & I love "paste & go!"

Ameranu

Ameranu reviewed v7.52 on Jul 7, 2004

For me -> Masterpiece.

Why?

-Smallest browser with largest possibilities. (Almost the same options as Mozilla but it takes 5MB on hard drive instead of 30-40)
-Fastest browser on earth. (Try running it on pc with 8MB of ram and 166MHz processor)
-Best coded. (5MB after install, beat this.)
-Cute :)

frekio

frekio reviewed v7.52 on Jul 7, 2004

singwolf:

It is on the site, here is the changelog for everyone:

http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/752/

ireland

ireland reviewed v7.52 on Jul 7, 2004

The best among others... But Ihave many problems with NTLM auth. under ISA Server. Firefox live with ISA without problems...

singwolf

singwolf reviewed v7.52 on Jul 7, 2004

Where did you get 7.52 from? It is not on the Opera site and is not working from this site...

gkar

gkar reviewed v7.52 on Jul 7, 2004

Wow, the continuing evolution of a browser that can't upload pictures to Ebay....FireFox, I'm still with you babe! (Opera is still a damn good browser though)

gkar

gkar reviewed v7.51 on Jun 30, 2004

Yes it's a good browser, but if you wish to use Ebay and need to upload pictures you can't. They have never fixed this problem even though they've known about it for years. This means you need to use 2 browsers. I'll stick with Firefox which works everywhere I've been including Ebay and it's picture services.

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v7.51 on Jun 28, 2004

I just tried Firefox 0.9, and let's face it, that browser wouldn't be so popular if it weren't free (which is perfectly typical). I registered Opera way back in version 2.12, but went for years without using it. It was just too difficult: Page rendering problems, totally unusable with with some important sites like the ones I use for online banking, and so on.

Well, Opera 7.51 has come a long way. I really love how customizable Opera is. You can modify all of the menus and toolbars, and you can configure the search function to death. Granted, much of this involves inconvenient (and error-prone) INI file editing, which is a real gripe. Still, try doing any of that with Firefox.

I've come across just a couple sites that won't work properly with Opera 7.51. One was (not surprisingly) using Windows Media content, and another was an online vendor that just wouldn't work with Opera. But the vast majority of sites work fine.

Opera is faster than everything else--including the beloved freebie Firefox. One beautiful little touch that I happen to absolutely love is how when you want to download a file, Opera begins downloading it in the background, while you select the directory and file name to save it to. I don't know of any other browser (or even download manager) that does the same thing.

I do hate Opera's "Wand" feature, since it is just a simple ID/password filler, and not any kind of password manager. And RoboForm ( http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1014298205/1 ) doesn't work with Opera, and probably never will (I don't recommend RoboForm anyway; the master password can be read from memory or from your swap or hibernation file--but the same is true of the Wand).

I've submitted one bug report and one support question to the Opera staff. So far, I've been soundly ignored. I hate being ignored.

lemonlovr

lemonlovr reviewed v7.51 on Jun 10, 2004

I have been using Opera since the days of 3.62 and I have rarely looked back. Sure, I've tried Mozilla and its variants but Opera has always been my browser of choice. I've even begun using the M2 client for my day-to-day e-mailing which I was reluctant to do for a long while. I know it's still in its early stages and there's some work to be done but compared to the bloatware such as MS Outlook, M2 and Opera do just fine. I wrote a more extensive review in my journal which you can find at http://bhinc.home.comcas...opera-75-excels_30.html. Also, it's important to note that web pages written in compliance with W3C standards ALWAYS display fine in Opera.

distinguished

distinguished reviewed v7.51 on Jun 10, 2004

With opera I can save pictures, other browsers don't allow me to. The best download manager of all browsers. Support available. Doesn't include the insecure IE engine. Opera can optionally reload all the pages you had open the last time you exited or crashed. The email, m2 is promising, but too early to rely on it yet.

baloor

baloor reviewed v7.51 on Jun 9, 2004

It's Opera. It's slick, it does everything it claims and does it very well.
My only true drawback with this program has always been the price.
I live in Australia, and the conversion rates make this a rather pricey app, considering the comparison to it's competitors I have to say I opted for Firefox in the end.

Judas_Iscariot

Judas_Iscariot reviewed v7.51 on Jun 7, 2004

Ironically enough, betanews.com is one of the sites that has some issues with it's display in Opera. Still, Opera is simply the best. My default browser for years.

TomasF

TomasF reviewed v7.51 on Jun 6, 2004

My default browser for ages, and that's an honor not bestowed on just any heap of code ;)

jrepin

jrepin reviewed v7.51 on Jun 6, 2004

This browser is getting really good. I used it at version 5.0 the last time and it has changed a lot since then. Although I still prefer Mozilla or Firefox this one is also awsome. All are much better then old and highly insecure and annoying Internet Explorer.

jrepin

jrepin reviewed v7.51 on Jun 6, 2004

This browser is getting really good. I used it at version 5.0 the last time and it has changed a lot since then. Although I still prefer Mozilla or Firefox this one is also awsome. All are much better then old and highly insecure and annoying Internet Explorer.

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v7.51 on Jun 6, 2004

with this version ,, not only Fast, but elegant smart and render right almost most of the pages even the compelex ones... it's my favorite browser now

agent2killa

agent2killa reviewed v7.51 on Jun 6, 2004

I'm currently using both IE and Opera as my browsers.Opera is very fast and,in my opinion, one of the best browsers.Sadly,the are some website which are not rendered properly but I will not blame Opera for that.Just fix the problem and I'll dump IE.

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v7.51 on Jun 6, 2004

Now as good as Mozilla in speed,moreover with excellent GUI and stability!

bsf

bsf reviewed v7.50 on May 24, 2004

It has gone a lot better than the last time I checked it. The HTML/Scripts support is a lot better than I expected. Although I DO like to give it a 5, the rendering is not fast enough (Normal page rendering is similar with Internet Explorer, of course faster than Netscape/Mozzila/Firefox, Big page rendering becomes slower than IE by a bit, although table rendering doesn't have that IE problem) Not only that, the startup is quite slow. On my 2.8GHz machine, it takes nearly a second to load up the browser...if anyone knows how to make it faster tell me, because other than that, it's gone quite competitive with IE, even for me as a homepage developer.

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v7.50 on May 13, 2004

Put simply the best Internet browser ever! Simple, fast, bug-free. Nothing compares to Opera!

robodesign

robodesign reviewed v7.50 on May 13, 2004

Hello! Opera might be just a little bit less stable than Firefox, but it is still very good. Opera is not bloated, is not slow (it is fast!) and it's very good. Same i can say about Firefox: fast, stable and not bloated. Opera interface is better than Firefox, also it has a lot more features than Firefox (sorry Mozilla users, but it's true) - even if Opera is smaller than Firefox. This does not mean i do not like both! Both are very, very good.

weed

weed reviewed v7.50 on May 13, 2004

Ex paid Opera 6 user, never liked any version of 7, including this one, I'll continue to use FireFox.

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v7.50 on May 12, 2004

Everything else is second rate.

chimpypimpy

chimpypimpy reviewed v7.50 on May 12, 2004

The is the next generation web browser. It's the worlds' fastest browser. It's standards compliant. Tabs and gestures are built-in and work better than any wannabe browser or add-on. It is completely configurable. It also comes with an excellent e-mail client, IRC, and download manager. At under 4mb, it's much better than the BLOATED (over 6mb) and BUGGY Firerat.

chimpypimpy

chimpypimpy reviewed v7.50 on May 12, 2004

The is the next generation web browser. It's the worlds' fastest browser. It's standards compliant. Tabs and gestures are built-in and work better than any wannabe browser or add-on. It is completely configurable. It also comes with an excellent e-mail client, IRC, and download manager. At under 4mb, it's much better than the BLOATED (over 6mb) and BUGGY Firerat.

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v7.50 on May 12, 2004

Opera is really excelent now! It costs money (if you want to get rid of the ad), but it is certainly better then firefox. It's fast, it does NOT need extensions (it has everything you will need build in) It has an excelent e-mail client, the interface is awesome! I could go on for ages, but i won't. Gotta play with my new browser ;)

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v7.50 on May 12, 2004

Opera is really excelent now! It costs money (if you want to get rid of the ad), but it is certainly better then firefox. It's fast, it does NOT need extensions (it has everything you will need build in) It has an excelent e-mail client, the interface is awesome! I could go on for ages, but i won't. Gotta play with my new browser ;)

Hassada

Hassada reviewed v7.50 on May 12, 2004

I prefer Mozilla Firefox. :) Open source, free, faster, leaner, more flexible...

darkuni

darkuni reviewed v7.50 on May 12, 2004

The best Opera ever, and I've been using it forever. The only thing missing is ad blocking (and I've tried to fix that with OperaAdFilter, my new tool at http://www.monroeworld.com/operafilter - my way of giving back). The IRC chat implementation (its not ICQ anymore for those that worry about that) is very good, and I regularly use it. The panels are better all around. A very solid, great release by Team Opera. Thank you!

xippon

xippon reviewed v7.5 Beta 1 on Apr 23, 2004

I'm glad that 7.50 version of Opera is more compatible with css styles and java. Opera 7.50Preview4 was more stable than this BETA version. Also there is still missing context menu for flashget option "download all". There are some problems with correct display swf files and some js.

In BETA mouse gestures are set to default and there is no way to edit own (preview4 has edit enabled)

It's good alternativ for MYIE2 if those bug will be fixed.

iandol

iandol reviewed v7.5 Beta 1 on Apr 23, 2004

The preview releases have stabilised into a great BETA. Memory consumption is down, startup speed has almost doubled! A new default skin is present (unfinished), and most of the new features stabilised.

For those who want just a browser - a prefs option now allows users to turn off the communications module (mail, news, RSS, IRC) completely.

The UI is now more streamlined (the new skin will hopefully be tightened up more) and more consistent and less item heavy than before.

The panels (sidebar) has a button pane to select different panels which is on by default. it is easy to reposition this where you want (default is now left compared to top in V7.23), or you can turn it off compeltely through the context-menu. If you click just to the left of the sidebar, there is a tiny toggle bar for quick mouse triggering of the sidebar!

Alex T.

Alex T. reviewed v7.5 Beta 1 on Apr 22, 2004

Fricken fast! Can someone update the old screenshot with the latest GUI please?

Tidus41

Tidus41 reviewed v7.5 Beta 1 on Apr 22, 2004

LOVELY new build!

Interface is so dam good now, I

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v7.5 Beta 1 on Apr 22, 2004

This baby is good!! Very good!! Everyone who tried version 7.x before, give 7.5 a chance!! It's a big, very big difference!! Best browser around IMHO...

MadEx2k2

MadEx2k2 reviewed v7.5 Beta 1 on Apr 22, 2004

Often imitated (MyIE2, Avant, some features of Firebird), but never duplicated!

The very best browser only gets better with 7.5. If the last version you tried was 7.0, you owe it to yourself to give it another go.

Also advice for anyone installing this: Install this in it's OWN directory, don't attempt to upgrade.

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v7.5 Beta 1 on Apr 22, 2004

plz update the screen-shot!but,kudos to opera development team!remarkable imp in looks and speed!wow!
what can i say,plz have a go at this beauty!

taxis

taxis reviewed v7.50 Preview 4 Build 3714 on Apr 21, 2004

I like the main component - the browser - for its speed and easy configurability, as well as the keyboard shortcuts. The code size is much smaller than that of any competitors.

As for the mailing system, I had some trouble with mails not being sent, and I would prefer a simpler interface (which of course is just a matter of taste). Anyway, nobody is forced to use it.

The only point I would like to criticise is the ad system: There are two choices, to get individual text ads or generic picture ads; many people choose the first not realising that the websites they visit are sent to Google for that purpose. The software does mention it, but not in the option titles, but only in a longer explanatory text.

blackpages

blackpages reviewed v7.50 Preview 4 Build 3714 on Apr 16, 2004

beautiful new interface.

caerma

caerma reviewed v7.50 Preview 4 Build 3714 on Apr 15, 2004

Really nice release...

Alex T.

Alex T. reviewed v7.50 Preview 4 Build 3714 on Apr 15, 2004

Best browser ever! And its disgustingly fast!

daxno

daxno reviewed v7.50 Preview 3 Build 3658 on Apr 6, 2004

Without a doubt the best browser. Extremely fast, stable, secure (!) and user-friendly. Also becomes better with every release and users are involved in the development proces. btw: If a page doesn't show correctly on Opera it's the fault from bad code from that site, NOT from the superb Opera engine.

If you have enough of IE's security flaws and want a REAL browser, this is the one !

5 STARS *****

ssb

ssb reviewed v7.50 Preview 3 Build 3658 on Mar 19, 2004

Great browser if someone wants something different than "plain" IE6.
Unfortunately it isn't fully compatible with W3 standards thus many sites don't displayed correctly.

iandol

iandol reviewed v7.50 Preview 3 Build 3658 on Mar 11, 2004

Remember this is still a preview release (not yet beta). Having said that, apart from some unfinished features (most notably the task icon), this a solid update to the previews. Management of the panels keeps getting better (and dialogs are back), DCC file transfer has been added, and little loose ends are being tied up as the beta is being prepared.

bts

bts reviewed v7.50 Preview 3 Build 3658 on Mar 10, 2004

I've been using the latest 7.5 preview as my main browser and have had no problems. Not once have I had to switch to another browser, great work Opera Software.

By the way, the screenshot shown here at BetaNews doesn't do Opera much justice. It's outdated and probably from 7.1 or earlier. The interface in 7.5 has been cleaned up and from what I hear the final will have a new default skin.

kebabi

kebabi reviewed v7.50 Preview 3 Build 3658 on Mar 10, 2004

Just waiting for the 7.50 Fianal with Java, and with finnish :)

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v7.50 Preview 3 Build 3658 on Mar 10, 2004

King of the hill, a-number 1, top of the heap.

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v7.50 Preview 3 Build 3658 on Mar 10, 2004

P3 is really good. Finally a mail notification the systray and it is possible to send files via chat.
People who tried Preview 1 and thought it was really bad, try again! A lot of work has gone into the panels and a lot of feedback from opera users has been implemented in preview 2/3. Simply the best browser :)

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v7.50 Preview 2 Build 3613 on Feb 27, 2004

Quite simply, the best. I don't see any other browser that can touch it. Install and use it, I guarantee you'll love it.

blackpages

blackpages reviewed v7.50 Preview 2 Build 3613 on Feb 24, 2004

Great look at the future. Innovative and far ahead of the other browsers. The leader in browers. Mozilla its only competition.

iandol

iandol reviewed v7.50 Preview 2 Build 3613 on Feb 18, 2004

The latest 7.5 previews of Opera are excellent updates. Keynotes:

1) RSS/RDF viewer integrated into the mailer.

2) Menu's and UI have been restructured to balance the previously powerful interface to streamline better for new users. It uses roughly the IE menu structure, as Firefox has done, but balanced it with power-surfing features unique to Opera. Opera has fully solidified it's position as the most user-customisable browser in existence (the most programmer customisable browser is still firmly in FireFox's corner).

3) The panels (sidebars) are now leagues ahead of any competitive browser. Unifying core browser functions (bookmarks, transfers, research notes, link browser, history) with customised panels is easy to manage. Custom panels that weren't designed for such narrow spaces can be dynamically reformatted using SSR.

3) A simple and very user-friendly chat client (using the IRC protocol, though jabber and others may follow) has been well integrated.

4) Don't want the RSS, chat and mail client? Just want the fastest and most light-weight standards-compliant browser around? Change 1 setting in the config file and you have it.

Summary: The V7.5 previews have added lots of functionality to solidify Opera's position as a power-users dream, without daunting new users.

shaper

shaper reviewed v7.50 Preview 2 Build 3613 on Feb 18, 2004

The best browser there is! And this new P2 is even better......

lone

lone reviewed v7.50 Preview 2 Build 3613 on Feb 18, 2004

whoa. quite a nice look since 7.23, personally i like it.
Also the built in chat feature is great altho it could use some work on handling with irc noticing etc.
all in all its another great version.

chimpypimpy

chimpypimpy reviewed v7.50 Preview 2 Build 3613 on Feb 18, 2004

The fastest browser in the world, loaded with great features. Tabs, downloads, mouse gestures, themes and more managed much, much better than any Mozilla browser. Lighter on resources than the bloated and buggy Firefox. About half the size of Firefox too!

jessshaun623

jessshaun623 reviewed v7.50 Preview 2 Build 3613 on Feb 18, 2004

Adware... That says it for me. I've tried all the major browsers, and I prefer and recommend Mozilla. I will never and have never used any program that contains Adware. And I will certainly never pay for a program just to get an ad free version.

Try a different browser.

Cosmik

Cosmik reviewed v7.50 Preview 2 Build 3613 on Feb 18, 2004

This is the best software in the world! Fast, everybody known. The User Interface is the best of any browser.
The Integrated Chat is perfect! So I love it. I try all browsers from Netscape, Ie, FireFox and Opera is Far in technology the best.

joske

joske reviewed v7.50 Preview 2 Build 3613 on Feb 18, 2004

too bloated. in my opinion. there's bunch of features i'll never use. i prefer firefox

Aimo

Aimo reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Jan 18, 2004

fast, faster, the fastest??? it's just the best browser you can get...5 stars

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Jan 17, 2004

I am (or should I say was) an avid IE6 fan trying out the competition just for fun. I compared Firebird and Opera head to head. No contest, Opera is by far the fastest browser on earth. Tabs, mouse gestures, customizable, everything including a mail client - and all under 4MB!

blurred

blurred reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Jan 13, 2004

its just getting better with every release , i hope microsoft is trying to learn a little from these guys :)

gengeng

gengeng reviewed v7.23 Final on Dec 25, 2003

Ecellent sofware! Browser can have multiple pages and it is possible to rearrange pages and to save the set of open pages as a session. Very good integration with several search engines. Mouse gestures allow to open/close/navigate without clicking on tool-bar buttons. Very convenient text search withing the current page. E-mail client uses concept of views (like a database) to organize messages into multiple "folders"/"subfolders". Overall this software has a LOT of features that Microsoft IE and Netscape Navigator do not have!

Drewz

Drewz reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Dec 25, 2003

All of you that complained Opera crashes a lot, adjust the memory cache in Prefs. I use win 98, 333 mhz and I got it on Automatic, and I hardly crash anymore.

motmotmot

motmotmot reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Dec 20, 2003

heheyy!!! good work! nice new interface and the all-new chat function i like the most. by the way, it seems that the downloading function such as mp3 and txt file in 'chat' client doesn't work. or maybe this new version of opera was designed for chatting purpose only??? :S

k0zy

k0zy reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Dec 20, 2003

I like the new Interface...

dr_goodbytes

dr_goodbytes reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Dec 20, 2003

interface is different, not much, i think it looks good.
the panels are interesting an interesting idea. i think the idea of a built-in chat client is interesting too. it's a bit more a "technology preview" than the standard opera.

JolinFire

JolinFire reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Dec 20, 2003

I wanted to rate it 2 stars, not five. Nothing really new, and for some functions, mozilla and firebird (even IE based browser) are better.

jimf43

jimf43 reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Dec 20, 2003

I absolutely hate the new interface. They should spend more time and effort on things like the buggy print interface and other basics rather than this convoluted mess. If this is the direction of Opera's fuiture development, then, I'm going over to Firebird.

glassdesigns

glassdesigns reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Dec 19, 2003

Nice interface. The only thing I would like to see is a send page command. The send link command doesn't do any good for password protected sites. If it had this I wouldn't use IE at all. 4 stars until then.

Illissius

Illissius reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Dec 19, 2003

scodan: perhaps you might want to install plugins for quicktime/WMP/whatever it is you want to use? I mean, as good as Opera is, it doesn't come with a video decoder built-in (and native support for WMP is out of the question because they have a unified code base and port to like 5 OSes or something) (although, they should indeed make it more generally known that the plugins exist at all, are necessary, how to install them, etc).

Otherwise, it's hands down the best browser ever. Not saying there's no room for improvement (it still crashes sometimes, a few sites still render badly (barely any that I go to though), plugin process could be easier), but even with all that, it gets 5 stars because it's still that much better than anything else.

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Dec 19, 2003

It's still remarkably lightweight and fast, and this version has improved the interface. Many more UI improvements will have to come before my rating changes, however. I'd love to eventually be able to rank it higher, but for now it still trails both Mozilla and Mozilla Firebird by some distance.

nant

nant reviewed v7.50 Preview 1 Build 3494 on Dec 19, 2003

Looks like good things to come.
Note: this was not written for some reason in the description above, but it is recommended to NOT INSTALL THIS PREVIEW ONTOP OF PREVIOUS VERSIONS!!!(!!). Install to a different directory.

Zootopia3000

Zootopia3000 reviewed v7.23 Final on Nov 22, 2003

Page rendering problem was fixed. However, it can crash (quite often sometimes) when trying to close a page that is still loading. Stopping the page from loading then closing the window stops most crashes, but will still do so on occasion. Depends if another open window is loading. Will also crash occasionally if I change the address manually in the address bar to go to a different page on the same site (haven't tried going to a completely different site to see if it still crashes). Again, it all depends on page loading either in that window or other windows. Upon restart, if I try to change the address manually again, it will repeat the crash.

Musashi_Sama

Musashi_Sama reviewed v7.23 Final on Nov 22, 2003

OWWWW! Opera Final is back again!
The fastest browser on the earth indeed, I don't use IE anymore.
Mozilla is a best option too but is hungry for resources and my pc here is a bomb! Opera is fast, have a built in mail program, have many many options and skins support.
Highly recommended!

scodan

scodan reviewed v7.23 Final on Nov 22, 2003

Ummm, I'm the guy who complained about files being loaded in ASCII format. And you missed the POINT. Some of the file types I had trouble with SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE SAVED LOCALLY before being played. Ever heard of "streaming" formats? You're telling me that using "save target as", then opening it locally, is an acceptable workaround for a streaming binary file that loads in ASCII format in a browser window? Besides, what is wrong with pointing out bugs and shortcomings? Don't pick on us for being better at testing software than other people are. "Sheesh."

Damned_za

Damned_za reviewed v7.23 Final on Nov 21, 2003

An Excellent Web Browser! I Like The Whole XP Feel.

verruckt

verruckt reviewed v7.23 Final on Nov 21, 2003

Its amazing to me that people can say that they like opera, but dont like certain things about it. The guy who said the files download in ascii format. How hard is it to right-click and "save target as"??? Or the guy who said the d/l screen was always fullscreen. Guess he never thought about minimizing it huh? Sorry to sound sharp, but these are all NORMAL things. Yes, they are different from IE or Mozilla, or whatever it is that you are used to. Its par for the course when trying new software. If it acted just like IE, then why would they call it "Opera"???? Try the forums at opera.com and get answers to your questions. Its just ridiculous to listen to people complain about something, when they obviously have NO idea what it is they are talking about... sheesh

Mads1

Mads1 reviewed v7.23 Final on Nov 21, 2003

It's a nice browser but I just can't get on with the mail client.

JolinFire

JolinFire reviewed v7.23 Final on Nov 21, 2003

7.22 was very crashy on my PC...

I will give 7.23 a try, but I have not a lot of hope... Gecko based browser kick Opera a** from far, not being an adware at first.

guti

guti reviewed v7.23 Final on Nov 21, 2003

Being using Opera since the times of version 3.
The 7.x series has a good looking interface, but that unfortunatelly bloats the application a bit. For me the best version was 3.61. 7.23 is simply fine. Faster and smaller than its competitors, but not at the level of older versions.

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v7.22 on Nov 12, 2003

http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/722/

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v7.22 on Nov 12, 2003

http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/722/

goFurShELF

goFurShELF reviewed v7.22 on Nov 10, 2003

not to quabble over versions, and in spite of other decent browsers...in general Opera is the best, having the best look, feel, interface, options...Opera is top choice! As far as versions, you speak of a program that came out of the mist of the NS vs IE war the peaceful champion, and seems to progress well. there will always be the fault of programmers to remove good features from good versions of good programs thereby losing support for absolutely no reason but the lack of simple user prefs/feedback...Get any recent version of Opera and you will be pleased...hL, download them all and see which one YOU like...

seelengarten

seelengarten reviewed v7.22 on Nov 6, 2003

Seams that the file was there for some hours today, but then it was rejected. Besides, if they work on Opera I expect another beat version of 7.21.... But ist a good sign: They still work on it (-:.

marty

marty reviewed v7.22 on Nov 6, 2003

File does not exist. Somebody jumped the gun.

Marty

Darken

Darken reviewed v7.22 on Nov 5, 2003

Not bad! Fast but little bit buggy... ;)

nant

nant reviewed v7.21 on Oct 14, 2003

"The DataRat", this is not about Linux, so quit it with these [unneeded, unjustified] anti-Linux spam.

Here the complete changelog for the 7.21 release: http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/721/

The DataRat

The DataRat reviewed v7.21 on Oct 14, 2003

If you gotta have Linux, you're at least better off
without Java ! __________The DataRat

iandol

iandol reviewed v7.21 Release Candidate 6 on Oct 13, 2003

PWT999: if you don't configure a mail account, Opera doesn't load the 200Kb DLL that has the emailer code (i.e. NO bloat if you don't use it). If you want to remove it completely, it takes a couple of minutes - see http://nontroppo.org/wiki/RemovingMail for simple instructions. For those who complain about the UI - you can easily make Opera behave like Firebird/IE - see: http://people.opera.com/rijk/opera/huginmunin.html - again a few minutes and shows how amazingly customisable Opera is. Firebird would require extensive programming and packaging of extensions to do that level of customisation - Opera does it in a few Kb's of easy-to-read INI files... None of the IE shells or IE itself even come close to that customisability.

randal2k

randal2k reviewed v7.21 Release Candidate 6 on Oct 13, 2003

the user interface is not that good, in my opinion. The browser has some neat features but over all.. mozilla is better if your moving away from IE.. MYIE2 is a good replacement if IE is not a concern to you.
Over all Opera is another share ware travesty, when so many freeware software choices do so much better.

KayNine

KayNine reviewed v7.21 Release Candidate 5 on Oct 13, 2003

Using Opera since v5. Always satisfied it's amazing to see how it still can get better and better with even minor changes. I pursuaded many colleagues and friends to try out Opera (especially when there was a security issue with IE (read: always)) and after a few days of getting used to it only few felt desire to return to IE!! There's about nothing IE does have that Opera doesn't. And this lot with only a few MB to download. Point! Plus Opera is getting more and more attention it seems. I hope it will rock the browser market soon, Opera company really deserve it!

nant

nant reviewed v7.21 Release Candidate 5 on Oct 10, 2003

In the download window there is a View button, there you can select to not have the download window pop-up whenever you start a download.

Recently there was a request in the Wishlist forum to have the download window popup in the background, so it won't interfer with one's browsing. Hopefully the devs will take this into consideration for 7.3 (and the devs do indeed listen to the users in Opera).

Now, you seem to enjoy Opera aside of the download window popup (since you didn't complain on anything else), does that really justifies a 3 stars ranking?

Yet another example as to how users of BetaNews do no know the first thing about real reviewing...
You guys (the web team here at BetaNews) should start posting articles about how to do the reviews in this site. sigh.

TheStickman

TheStickman reviewed v7.21 Release Candidate 5 on Oct 10, 2003

My only gripe with Opera is the damn download screen that opens up that's the size of a regular web page when I download a file. I've search and hunted and have yet to find a way to make it a small window as I have in Firebird/Mozilla or IE.

adaminferior

adaminferior reviewed v7.21 Release Candidate 4 on Oct 9, 2003

To Scodan: I do not know if you already know this way of circumventing opera's issue of downloading certain files as ASCII but whenever I encounter this I simply right click and select "save as" and then it works just fine. It is still a minor inconvenience but hopefully this helps you out.

illuvatar

illuvatar reviewed v7.21 Release Candidate 3 on Oct 9, 2003

veeoh, another one of your posts? Go away! (no really, please go away) - official review: opera is great - period. It follows web standards, it's fast, highly customizable, it's got tabbed browsing, it's ultra-light... it's better and faster than mozilla (and lets not talk about that horrid browser IE). Nuff said.

PWT999

PWT999 reviewed v7.21 Release Candidate 2 on Oct 7, 2003

I had a few stability issues in the early days of the 7.20 betas (expected) but non whatsoever recently. I don't care much for the email client & believe that Opera should consider offering a browser only version of erm...Opera. That aside, it's the best thing since sliced bread. If you don?t like it consider actually installing the product.

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v7.21 Release Candidate 2 on Oct 7, 2003

veeoh, your buffoonery is overshadowed only by the clarity and value of your reviews. I am not an Opera fanatic, but I have followed the recent influx of 7.xx RCs closely and have been largely pleased with the results. Browser preference is exactly that -- a preference, often an intangible feeling that cannot be easily categorized or explained. I personally prefer MyIE2 over Opera, but I still think Opera is an awesome product that will (hopefully, but unlikely) prove a wake-up call to MS how important people take security and stability in their browsers. Furthermore, I visit BetaNews often in order to read intelligent and insightful reviews of the latest versions of many different programs -- please don't troll around and bring the value of this site and community down with your sad, pathetic, mindless drivel. If you are annoyed by the frequent releases: fine, you have a right to be annoyed, but go the f__k away from a site that is dedicated to informing the community about these releases. To paraphrase my first grade teacher, if you don't have something meaningful and constructive to say, then shut the f__k up and die.

veeoh

veeoh reviewed v7.21 Release Candidate 1 on Oct 7, 2003

I dont use IE monkeyboy

iandol

iandol reviewed v7.21 Release Candidate 1 on Oct 7, 2003

Wow veeoh, that was a really informative review! Your intelligent insights sparkled with clarity and understanding...

Maybe you are bit disturbed that Opera actually work hard on improving their browser and release new versions, rather than letting it languish with the same security holes and standards violations for a couple of years (true for IE and anything that uses IE to view HTML) - 32 unpatched vunerabilities (and how many unknown ones?) and innumerable bugs with CSS / DOM / (X)HTML rendering.

scodan

scodan reviewed v7.21 Preview 2 on Oct 4, 2003

I registered Opera 2.12 years ago, and since then I've gave each major version a quick try. I always uninstalled it because of problems that came up. When I tried version 7.2, I was really impressed and almost kept it (and paid they $15 upgrade fee). The problem I had was when trying to download various video files, the files would load--in binary form--right in the page. So, instead of downloading a binary file I could use, I was left with a binary file rendered in ASCII form in a browser window. (I screwed with Opera's MIME settings but could not readily solve the problem.) Still, Opera is pretty slick, full-featured, and has come a long way. Even with Mozilla being free, Opera would EASILY be my choice as an MSIE alternative.

adaminferior

adaminferior reviewed v7.21 Preview 2 on Oct 3, 2003

Who can spell nonetheless and who does not need to use a popular media induced fad to put up a transparent front of supposed elite-ness.

finalcut

finalcut reviewed v7.21 Preview 2 on Oct 3, 2003

too bad, there is no links bar in opera
so no way to get fast favs...

MyIE2 > *

Illissius

Illissius reviewed v7.21 Preview 1 on Oct 3, 2003

> But somehow it has problems with loading pages with a lot of pics on my pc.
> I always need to reload the page a couple of times before all the pics show up.
> Therefore no 5 *

You haven't by any chance set preferences -> network -> max connections to a large number, have you? That chokes the server, which is why you don't get all the images. If you haven't, then try setting it to a lower number anyways.

For the review: Opera is quite simply the best browser ever. Period. It's
- Smaller
- Faster
- More feature-filled
than anything else out there. (Note: all of the above three are understatements.) *At the same time*. Seriously, that should not even be possible. There are a grand total of two "problems" with it: it could be even better; and it isn't free.

About the ad-ware - Opera has just about the least best ad solution ever. It uses Google's text ads, which means it's just about impossible for them to be in any way intrusive or disruptive, -and- they are context-sensitive, meaning they display ads relating to whatever you're currently browsing. Most people actually found them _useful_. I mean, seriously: *ads that are actually useful*. That, also, should not be possible.

But, apparently, it is.

There are not enough stars possible to convey how excellent this is.

Drewz

Drewz reviewed v7.21 Preview 1 on Oct 3, 2003

Ive been a registered user since v6, and v7 looks better but its not as good as v6. More sites are accessible with v7 than were with v6, but it crashes more and is slower than v6, plus the wand aint so stalwart as it was. So as far as Opera goes, support and all, they get a 5, and it pains me but v7 gets a 3, so all things considered I give this a 4.

ssb

ssb reviewed v7.21 Preview 1 on Oct 3, 2003

Better than Mozilla and the rest open source family.
Unfortunately it still has many bugs and the JS incompatibility drives me crazy.
So back to IE6 until Opera 8 :)

The DataRat

The DataRat reviewed v7.21 Preview 1 on Oct 3, 2003

Forget about Java. It's totally crash prone, and a wet dream
of Computer Communists !
In Opera, press F12 and disable Java. Your Internet
experience will only improve. 90% of Web crashes and
browser lock-up's are the result of trying to run Java.
Opera is the premier Web Browser. But nothing can make
Java run right on a real computer.
_________The DataRat

The DataRat

The DataRat reviewed v7.21 Preview 1 on Oct 3, 2003

"Mozilla is still miles ahead"___________Modzilla is a
mess ! Forget it. Quite frankly, Netscape v. 4.7x is ~still~
the best e-mail client. For web browsing, Opera leaves
Mozilla eating dust !_________The DataRat

seelengarten

seelengarten reviewed v7.21 Preview 1 on Oct 3, 2003

Works fine. Now added "tile windows verticaly" the function I put on the wishlist. Great!

hooverbw

hooverbw reviewed v7.20 on Sep 26, 2003

Seems like it might be good, but it keep crashing on one of the first three pages I ever went to on it, no errors, no chance to close the window, it would just crash once I tried to access the site. And the site was my bank so I have to get there. So far the only browers that have been able to reach ALL of my necessary sites are IE and Netscape.

daxno

daxno reviewed v7.20 on Sep 24, 2003

New version works excellent with flash, it's fast and has a great interface. But somehow it has problems with loading pages with a lot of pics on my pc. I always need to reload the page a couple of times before all the pics show up. Therefore no 5 *

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v7.20 on Sep 23, 2003

This is the a great release from Opera Software. O7.2 surpasses Mozilla in every possible way except being opensource freeware. It's a lot faster, smaller, more feature packed and way more polished than any Gecko based browser. IE and it's various wrappers can't even compete. 5/5

Anacific

Anacific reviewed v7.20 on Sep 23, 2003

Oh noes, Mozilla zealots are here o_0 (veeoh) veeoh, please, don't taint the name of Mozilla by your retarded reviews, thank you.

veeoh

veeoh reviewed v7.20 on Sep 23, 2003

Mozilla is still miles ahead

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v7.20 on Sep 23, 2003

Th best gets better.Small & fast is the way to go.
Hey metshrine, instead of ponying up $25 for Admuncher to band-aid the adverts, why not just buy the full Opera instead?

XF

XF reviewed v7.20 on Sep 23, 2003

Opera is certainly a 5 stars browser (thus the rating), but it's not my default... I'm actively helping the Mozilla community (Mozilla Firebird is my default for different reasons, one of wihich is being free), so, seeing the great work that's being done there, I can see the same good work up here. Mozilla has been helped by AOL in the past and now was given a foundation, but Opera is a private company making software for money and ads (which as already stated are not spyware) are the 'price' to pay for using a very good product for free. So, as already said, Opera won't be my default browser unless some big changes overcome the Mozilla Foundation, but nonetheless it worths 5 stars. I whish all the best to Opera Software: we have to fight together against IE! :P

dr_goodbytes

dr_goodbytes reviewed v7.20 on Sep 23, 2003

personally speaking, i think opera is brilliant, what i like best is that's it small, really small. the opera team has gone to quite some lengths to support "lazy html" and even some propriatary html tags (for people who can't spell w3c)
some sites still may not work correctly, but don't blame opera, blame the webmaster. The support for opera is good, i found any bugs i reported were fixed in the next beta. it has real tabbed browsing unlike mozilla / firebird. it's secure, unlike IE. yes it has ads in it, but you know what
some people write programs for a living (shock horror!) and they'd like to be paid for their fine work :)

Oh trapanator, WHY is mozilla better? you've made the same review twice, if you could call a one-liner a review at all.
Isn't it just a little bit dangerous to use your entire vocabulary in a single sentence? :)

Scorched Earth

Scorched Earth reviewed v7.20 on Sep 23, 2003

Not a completely bad browser. I don't like its adware, incompatibility with many pages (lots more than Microsoft-affiliated sites), and suspicious phone-home connections. I like what the email client stives to be, how tabs work properly by default (unlike in Mozilla), and aesthetics w/ some skins. Overall, I find it to be a great browser as far as looks and some bells-and-whistles go... but when I need a functioning, professional-grade browser with acceptable compatibility, I have to turn to either IE or Mozilla/Firebird.

PWT999

PWT999 reviewed v7.20 on Sep 23, 2003

If you put your hand it your wallet you will find the ad's magically disappear, it's quite amazing. And as for not liking 'Beta' software I do feel the need to point out this site is called 'BetaNews', think about it. Opera is without doubt the finest browser since the beginning of time itself.

JolinFire

JolinFire reviewed v7.20 on Sep 23, 2003

Smallest ? Maybe.

But having it with ad, kills it.

Sorry, but I prefer not to use an ad-supported software :(

trapanator

trapanator reviewed v7.20 on Sep 23, 2003

Mozilla is better

illuvatar

illuvatar reviewed v7.20 on Sep 23, 2003

Dear veeoh, just because it's adware doesn't mean it's crap. You obviously haven't tried Opera, otherwise your opinion would be slightly different. Opera is IMHO the best browser around with lots of great features and with immense power. BTW bozo, the site's name is BETAnews. If you don't like betas or (as you call it) "daily releases" just spend your time elsewhere. PS: are you by any chance related to kbyron?

iandol

iandol reviewed v7.20 Beta 13 Build 3139 on Sep 20, 2003

New beta is great, stability fixes and a new mechanism to invoke inline-find (close to mozilla's find-as-you-type). In case people missed it, beta 11 introduced a radical departure for advertising in software. Opera now uses google text ads relevent to the visited page (no graphics), plus a related searches bar - so the ad's are actually useful for a change. Strict privacy policy guarantees your surfing anonimity (been packet-sniffed by independant parities to confirm this too).

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v7.20 Beta 13 Build 3139 on Sep 20, 2003

Well, it still doesnt support all sites i try and visit with it, mozilla supports em well (even microsoft.com's funky non w3c compliant html). By the way, if anyone wants to remove ADS from opera's free version, try admuncher. It will block all the ad's so you dont even see them :)

iandol

iandol reviewed v7.20 Beta 12 on Sep 19, 2003

Currently the most accomplished of all browsers. V7 started off on shaky ground, being a complete rewrite. But the latest 7.2 beta's have fixed almost all the features broken from V6 and introduced a whole heap more.
A 1.3Mb executable belies the intuitive and comprehensive features it has. Responsible for many of the innovations in browsing (like mouse gestures), Opera V7 has a new set of unique and useful features like Notes panel, Fastforward/Rewind, User CSS, much faster DHTML/DOM, spatial navigation, and the revolutionary mail client M2.
The user interface is extensively customisable using intuitive internal commands to control it via customised menus / keyboard / mouse / UI buttons.
Remember it uses it's own rendering engine (a real browser, not merely an IE shell), so isn't affected by the appaling security record of IE. Along with the solid bookmarking, customisable search settings, REAL MDI Tabbed interface (not the less functional 'tabs' found in Firebird or others) Opera is a lean, fast, customisable and powerful web browser.

dr_goodbytes

dr_goodbytes reviewed v7.20 Beta 12 on Sep 18, 2003

brilliant, they fixed the bug in the download manager in beta 11. seems to be a lot more stable on more sites too.

birkis

birkis reviewed v7.20 Beta 12 on Sep 18, 2003

jbejm >> I think you have downloaded the wrong program...

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v7.20 Beta 12 on Sep 18, 2003

Opera 7.2 is getting in shape! The majority of bugs are ironed out now. A lot of site rendering issues are fixed! This is way better than mozilla!

jbejm

jbejm reviewed v7.20 Beta 12 on Sep 18, 2003

Still Junk.
Only can visit a 50% of sides.
Other 50% will not show.

Zulithe

Zulithe reviewed v7.20 Beta 11 on Sep 15, 2003

Okay, I haven't used Opera since the very first release of it's 7.x series. I decided to give it another try (why? boredom? lack of neat new features to play with in MozillaFirebird?) What can I say other than:IMPRESSIVE! I actually like it more than Firebird. It renders pages that I am having problems with in Firebird. The built-in mail client is nice, and it's implimentation of a 'sidebar' is better than Firebird, IMO. I still have problems with it rendering a lot of sites (no matter what I have it identify as) examples: macromedia.com and aim.com However, if they ever manage to get these rendering issues fixed, I will VERY gladly use it as my primary browser. So, minus 1 Star for that, but otherwise It's every surfer's dream.

illuvatar

illuvatar reviewed v7.20 Beta 11 on Sep 15, 2003

I don't use anything else for surfing. Opera is the best: it's highly configurable, fast and easy to use, small compared to other browsers, it loads fast,... I'm happy they take the time to beta test it thoroughly. I remember when they released the first "stable" release of version 7, it was nothing more than a beta. These latest betas of 7.20 are very promising and I hope we can enjoy using version 7.20 very soon. To kbyron and other bozos flaming beta tests: the name of this site is betanews.com. If you don't get the concept, then please leave.

dr_goodbytes

dr_goodbytes reviewed v7.20 Beta 11 on Sep 14, 2003

ok, mozilla may use less memory, but it's a 17mb download.
opera is 3.2mb. if you go for firebird that's still 7mb. i like opera because it's small, fast (and if you don't mind ads, free. Oh and it's Adware NOT Spyware there IS a difference). for those of you whining about how many betas have been released, don't you think it would be better to release 20 betas and fix any problems rather than releasing a new version riddled with bugs & security holes? anyway i think the opera team are doing a great job. one other thing i like: every link opens in a new tab, i haven't figured out how do do that in mozilla.

jerodequin

jerodequin reviewed v7.20 Beta 11 on Sep 14, 2003

Can someone explain what makes Opera faster and more efficient than other browsers?

Just a quick check on mem usage (using IE 6, Mozilla 1.5b and Opera 7.2b11 all sitting on www.google.co.uk) shows the following memory usage: Opera: 18,460k IExplore: 18,220k Mozilla: 17,008k

Can't see that opera is any more efficient than other browsers as far as memory usage goes.

nemesis1

nemesis1 reviewed v7.20 Beta 11 on Sep 13, 2003

Zulithe: you already answered your question. if you have java installed, then just download the smaller install.
however, if you intend to install it on a clean machine, then it's handy to have the full installer.

kbyron

kbyron reviewed v7.20 Beta 11 on Sep 13, 2003

Announcing the latest alpha, beta, gamma, delta, epsilon, zeta, eta, theta... version of version 7.20.xxx to the thirtieth power of the usual adware browser. Just how many times do you need to revise this mess?

Mozilla 1.4 is a hundred times better, easily. And no adware.

trapanator

trapanator reviewed v7.20 Beta 10 on Sep 12, 2003

Mozilla is better

dacaveman

dacaveman reviewed v7.20 Beta 10 on Sep 12, 2003

this program is great and all but u guys shud check out mozillaFirebird. its free and its got more plug-ins than opera.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firebird/

tech_8356

tech_8356 reviewed v7.20 Beta 9 on Sep 8, 2003

Opera is the way to go!
With mouse guestures, great skins, unmatched speed, excellent customizability, easy to manage favorites, and a whole lot more, Opera is the best you can get. Even if there is the occasional hiccup in rendering, check out SlimBrowser (an IE addon). As much as most of us can't stand IE, there's the rare time when you need it, so you might as well make it look better.

jhan

jhan reviewed v7.20 Beta 9 on Sep 7, 2003

After i've done my configuration and changed skin it worked perfect and look really neat to... I'll never go back to IE again thats one thing for sure, I kiss the IE bugs goodbye... Great work Opera Team!

wolseleydude

wolseleydude reviewed v7.20 Beta 9 on Sep 7, 2003

Again, the best browser in the world outdoes itself! I have been using Opera since 2000. I have absolutely no complaints. Besides, if some sites don't recognize Opera, one can always mask the browser as IE 6.0

Error404

Error404 reviewed v7.20 Beta 9 on Sep 7, 2003

The almighty just keeps getting better :)

blackpages

blackpages reviewed v7.20 Beta 7 on Sep 2, 2003

When the computer crashes, the browser can pick up where it left off. The transfer/download window is practical and functional with clickable resume. If there is something you don't like the opera forums can help you find how to remove it. Opera knows speed is not just about optimised code but say the number of clicks to reply to email or report spam. Screen reader compatible, zooming, keyboard features for almost everything, make it perfect for the physically impared, and Opera promotes this. Opera cares.

blackpages

blackpages reviewed v7.20 Beta 8 on Sep 2, 2003

Support is always available. Opera works when all of microsoft's browser has been completely removed with IEradicator, 98lite, or XPlite. In the Opera developers corner I see microsoft MSN had been stopping people using the Opera browser by sending users to an MSN page that didn't work basically, how anticompeditive. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

pohlman

pohlman reviewed v7.20 Beta 7 on Aug 29, 2003

Still the best, and this version appears to have squashed the few remaining mystery crashes I had been having now and then. For the Flash problem: I don't know why it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't when you install a new version but if it doesn't work, download the Netscape plugin here: http://sdc.shockwave.com...ave/download/alternates/

Run the executable and restart the browser. If it doesn't work (and it may not), you have two separate plugin folders in your Opera program folder (Don't know why they haven't changed this?). Copy all files in each folder to the other one. When you restart the browser all plugins should work. That's my only complaint about Opera these days: some things that should "just work" need a little fiddling. Not much, but if you're a normal Joe who just turns on the machine and expects everything to work and don't know how to move things around in a program folder or edit a text file, this is a MAJOR obstacle to replacing IE.

When they finally make this thing perfectly "plug and play,", and unfortunately for the masses nothing less will do, it should replace that stupid blue "e" on the desktop that 80% of the world thinks IS the internet.

Alex T.

Alex T. reviewed v7.20 Beta 7 on Aug 27, 2003

Awesome!!! The betas keep getting better and better! Beta 7 is more stable and faster than the official 7.11, I highly recommend it!

bsf

bsf reviewed v7.20 Beta 5 on Aug 24, 2003

it's one of the best browsers compared to mozzilla and IE (I don't think we need to count Netscape) but in my personal opinion, I don't like the skinning, tabbing function, and in my computer I see a 0.00 second improvement (that's cuz all browser except Netscape loads at about 0.00 seconds) but yeah, I don't think this is a bad browser because it's pretty much extensible and a well written program. It's very logic that it's shareware, I think if they improve on this, and maybe make a "lite" and "skin" version, I'd really appreciate it.

dr_goodbytes

dr_goodbytes reviewed v7.20 Beta 5 on Aug 24, 2003

"World Peace Implemented"...maybe we should all take a lesson from that. ('nuff said)

madk0w

madk0w reviewed v7.20 Beta 5 on Aug 23, 2003

sorry about the first post, i accidently pressed submit review and moused back (if you'd look closer at the time you'd see a time difference of 23minutes.. so it's obvious that was a mistake), that third one was just a stoned mistake i made that night (no need to judge, that would only be even more childish) (wich i figured out a few moments later when i had to download smth on smallband; damn no download window) Anyway there's no perfect browser out there; everybody has to decide what kind of browser they want, to fit ones needs; and i recently developped a taste for myie2 because i think that's what iexplorer should've been from the beginning, i'm talking feature wise because that's all it really does. There's just one BIG difference between iexplorer vs browsers: forums. everybody that has ever used any version of opera knows. And web power users meaning: people that use web browsers in surfing mode (me almost 24/7); they all need compatibility and speed; feature-packed; and easy going. MyIe2 you don't need to figure out when installing it for the first time... everything's so obvious. Opera on the other hand does require to think before you can completely figure everything out.. seen from that point of view; if anybody of course tries, it's not that hard to imagine a thing like that 'thinking n00b'. Anyway in my defence: A lame remark can only get an even lamer response, so there you go children, nibble on that one.

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v7.20 Beta 5 on Aug 23, 2003

Whatever the earlier version bug was causing it to run slower, it's gone now. While I've tried all the IE shell apps (CB,MyIEs,SlimBrowser), it's still the same IE under the hood. Oh, and don't forget to grab the latest bunch of IE critical security patches from M$.
Funny...I don't need to use *any* add-ons to use Opera.

rejected

rejected reviewed v7.20 Beta 5 on Aug 23, 2003

I keep making the change between avant and opera, although I have seen a lot of recent bugs within opera. seems like most sites run perfect with an IE based browser, however I would love to have avant with the magic wand capabilities. opera just doesn't run well on some sites, although i do like the skinning capabilities. it has come a long way, maybe one day it will be compatible with everything.

RobertM

RobertM reviewed v7.20 Beta 5 on Aug 23, 2003

madk0w: "Mainly windows users will all have iexplorer no matter what; why not make use of it and enhance it with myiex2 instead of trying to do something alternative to what windows has to offer"

Oh, I don't know. Maybe because IE's rendering engine is a piece of garbage that any Web developer who knows what he's doing hates? (And *only* those who actually *know* what they're doing, mind you.)

pohlman

pohlman reviewed v7.20 Beta 4 on Aug 22, 2003

I already reviewed this, but we need another "5" to offset moomoo's dumb replies. I use MYIE2 as well, on the rare occasions when a site demands an insecure piece of junk to run - like I need a browser to execute stuff on my machine anyway... When I need a fast, light, friendly, feature packed (with the features that the cow ranted about in MYIE and then some), amazingly customizable browser, Opera is still unbeatable. Thunderbird is fine for an unfinished work in progress, Moz is fine for a slow bloated unfinished work in progress, but for an honest browsing experience, there is no turning back once you've tried Opera and found your way around its options.

Now, for this version: Feels faster and lighter than before, and the mystery crashes that were happening on a few flaky sites seem to be gone. This thing would take over the world in a world where people didn't think that "the internet" is that blue "e" on the desktop. The one I haven't had to use at home in two years and makes me cry in frustration when I have to use it at work or someone's house.

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v7.20 Beta 4 on Aug 22, 2003

madk0w: Well done. 3 consecutive "reviews" for the same version of Opera that you obviously didn't tried. No, you take this as an opportunity to pimp a POS IE addon for n00bs. Betanews should ban idiots like you.

madk0w

madk0w reviewed v7.20 Beta 4 on Aug 21, 2003

sorry but i forgot to say one last important aspect of myie2: you can COMPLETELY CUSTOMIZE it!! there's nothing i can think of they could improve (unless we're talking about speed here :) )

hao2lian

hao2lian reviewed v7.20 Beta 4 on Aug 21, 2003

MyIE2 is fast because it's not a browser at all. It's just a frontend of IE. That means it comes with goodies like non-standards compliance, ActiveX, VBScript, security holes, and much much more. And I can figure out all the sites you've visited because IE lets me do that:
http://www.microsuck.com...t/ms-hidden-files.shtml

I use Firebird, but if you're going to use a browser, please don't use anything related to IE. Firebird and Opera are your best choices.

Dapple

Dapple reviewed v7.20 Beta 4 on Aug 21, 2003

The AOL feel isstill there.
Thank god for MyIE

finalcut

finalcut reviewed v7.20 Beta 4 on Aug 21, 2003

myie2 > *

irkregent

irkregent reviewed v7.20 Beta 4 on Aug 21, 2003

Looks quite good so far. The two bugs I found in Beta 3 are gone.

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v7.20 Beta 3 on Aug 10, 2003

This beta seems to be *much* slower than 7.11 is, as far as initial startup and loading pages.I installed it right over 7.11, which may be a factor, but I've done that with earlier versions without any problems. MyIE2 runs faster than this does now. Geuss I'll be going back to 7.11 till this gets tighter.

osx-addict

osx-addict reviewed v7.20 Beta 3 on Aug 8, 2003

The main webpage that I use most of the week is Squirrelmail on my home server.. This version of Opera has a fair amount of problems with the links.. I was running Opera 7.11 and it worked great.. This version will probably be removed since it is fairly flaky when used in conjunction with SquirrelMail.. Oh well..

skrowl

skrowl reviewed v7.20 Beta 3 on Aug 8, 2003

Who is still using Opera now that MyIE2 has come of age?

Tabbed Browsing? Ad blocking? Popup blocking? MyIE2 has got it.

Price tag for a WEB BROWSER when the one used by 95% of people is 100% free with their windows purchase? Nope.. MyIE2 doesn't have that.

Full compatibility with IE-only sites? MyIE2 has it, Opera doesn't.

Get it now http://www.myie2.com

kite

kite reviewed v7.20 Beta 3 on Aug 8, 2003

This is the best browsing software available. It integrates tabbed browsing, mail client, popup blocker, password manager, and many more features. Doesn't get any better... and it's solid as well!

illuvatar

illuvatar reviewed v7.20 Beta 3 on Aug 8, 2003

This is beyond any doubt the best browser I have ever used. It isn't only fast at rendering and when you fire it up, but it also eases your surfing - alot. I couldn't live without tabbed browsing, customizable toolbars and menus, all those wonderful sidebars, the very extensive right click menu, fast search commands through the address bar and lots more. These last betas of Opera 7.2 are quite good. Now I can check my mail accounts seperately - neat :-) For those people criticizing betas: remember it's only a beta. If it isn't fixed in the stable build, please come back to complain about it :-)

dr_goodbytes

dr_goodbytes reviewed v7.20 Beta 3 on Aug 8, 2003

good solid browser, doesn't crash on my system
only one annoying bug: the download manager will randomly restart a download which is very annoying if you've downloaded 50% then it suddenly drops down to 0%!!

but it is a beta & aside from that it's really good

i would give it 4.5 (but that's not an option)

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v7.20 Beta 3 on Aug 7, 2003

Best browser, really far ahead.
I had some problems with winxp and some pages crashing opera frequently, with no apparent reason (the same page sometimes crashed opera, sometimes doesn't). In one winxp report I saw some java dll involved. Then, I uninstalled Sun java virtual machine and installed M$ one and never had a problem again.
Maybe M$ is taking revenge with sun Java (and opera by the way)? They were forced to include SUNs java in windows xp some time ago). DOJ, you have another case to look at... It seems M$ didn't understand very well (or they did?)

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v7.20 Beta 2 on Jul 24, 2003

Been using Opera for years and it usually seems to render sites faster than most other browsers, especially I.E., which makes it a worthy contender when searching for a fast browser. However, the last couple of betas, including this one, have been freezing up my computer. I have a Dell Pentium 4 w/ 384MB ram running on Win XP and the most of the system freezes (only a separate 'on-top' clock and alt-tab work) when I have about 7 windows in Opera and a couple of major programs running in addition to some smaller ones in the tray. These were all working together before I installed recent betas and there is still free memory available when I have all the programs running (about 24%). I realize this is a beta and I still like the software for fast surfing -- it'll be one of my most used browsers when the bug is fixed but till then, I have use an older version to avoid system freeze up/crashes.

MOPAR

MOPAR reviewed v7.20 Beta 2 on Jul 23, 2003

I have been using OPERA for along time now i dont use any other Browser its the best out and getting better Version 7.20b1 had some bugs fixed getting Version 7.20b2 now to test

Wildhack

Wildhack reviewed v7.20 Beta 1 on Jul 6, 2003

I left 7.11b2887 installed and made a new install of 7.20b1. I just don't trust Opera upgrades anymore, and this one is bad news. With the exact same cookie settings on both renditions (basically, to accept all but dump new ones on exit), my forums are now telling me I'm using a browser which doesn't accept cookies. No doubt if I invest enough time I can find a workaround, maybe even before the next beta release comes out. Instead, I'm going back to 7.11b2887 and will wait for the next beta release of 7.20.

robodesign

robodesign reviewed v7.20 Beta 1 on Jul 6, 2003

Hi! Opera is a very good browser compared to all browsers I've seen. The only problem is that it is still buggy - not stable. For example, in Opera 7.11 if you play too much with the keyboard arrows you can crash it :). I also don't like they release too many versions :D. On some pages it crashes without doing anything. Anyway, it is my primary browser.

Freeky

Freeky reviewed v7.20 Beta 1 on Jul 5, 2003

Still good, but not much in the way of exciting bugfixes in this release, so it gets a 4. Kudos to releasing Windows and Linux versions within an hour of each other, though.

BTW, whatever_-_, have you submitted a bug report for your problem, or mentioned it in news://news.opera.com/opera.support?

homiebrah

homiebrah reviewed v7.20 Beta 1 on Jul 5, 2003

Opera still is a nice browser, voodoo. Avant still relies on IE to function.

TheVoodoo

TheVoodoo reviewed v7.20 Beta 1 on Jul 5, 2003

Hmm i wounder who opera for windows needs anymore. www.avantbrowser.com is so much better and not addware or shareware. Anyway opera was a nice browser

Mark Gillespie

Mark Gillespie reviewed v7.20 Beta 1 on Jul 4, 2003

Awesome. It totally changed the way I surf and email. I encourage everyone to give it a whirl, it takes a while to get used to the mail side of things, with the database driven views, but once you got it sussed, it makes so much sense.

To the guy complaining about Thinkpad scroll mouse, Perhaps a reading class may be in order, as you obviously missed the bit where it said BETA...

whatever_-_

whatever_-_ reviewed v7.20 Beta 1 on Jul 4, 2003

J35u5 H. Chr15t. They *STILL* haven't fixed the inability to use the scroll button on an IBM Thinkpad to scroll in the browser window?! Is there anyone else here having the same problem, either with a Think Pad or some sort of scroll-type mouse for the desktop? Am I the only Think Pad that uses Opera? I've sent numerous emails and ug reports about this. They STILL haven't fixed this VERY SIMPLE issue (every other Windows application supports this function w/n/p), despite the release of numerous new revisions. I AM TIRED OF THIS. I want my money back Opera. I don't care how great the browser is otherwise, I've had it with such basic functionality as this being broken. It is a supreme PITA and major AGGREVATION. If I have to close Opera and opening MyIE or K-Meleon just so I can scroll with my third mouse button, I might just hit the uninstall button and dump Opera altogether. Get your sh1t together on this elementry malfunction. >:=|

Apollos

Apollos reviewed v7.11b on May 19, 2003

Hmm, I wonder what's new with this one, I'm guessing it was some serious bug fix for something or another. *shrug*

Wildhack

Wildhack reviewed v7.11 on May 15, 2003

> Reviewed by: Perezoso
> Date: May 13th, 2003 5:30 PM
>
> http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/711/

Right. First thing I went to once Opera had v7.11 listed on their site. Until then the download was available but the changes weren't obvious, and there was no changelog to reference. If that info is in the Help Contents file, I didn't find it.

None of the changes seem of great significance, now that I've used the new version for the better part of a week. I do have "Identify as _____" for display on the Main Bar so I know what ID it's set for, but still use F12 to more quickly change the browser ID rather than scroll through the "Identify as_____".

I tend to think that this version crashes more often than the v7.10 Final, but not often enough to be of major concern. Anyone else encountering this?

jksteinhauer

jksteinhauer reviewed v7.11 on May 13, 2003

Being primarily a Netscape/Mozilla user over the years, dabbling with Opera periodically, the progress I have followed with Opera from 4.x - 7.x has been interesting.
Mozilla's decision recently to move away from the browser suite which includes browser/composer/email-news to browser/composer solely (mIRC client)and a separate email/news client has steered me back round to Opera as of late for a more in depth look-see.
I have found page compatibilty thusfar to be right on the mark. Skinning is superlative. The email client (M2) is progressing nicely now. The bookmark manager has caught my eye.
Perhaps the one setback I see at this point is Opera's inability to utilize/incorporate the Shockwave plugins. I'm a big fan of Shockwave. Could we work on that one guys?
Speaking of plugins; seems in 7.10 I could view my plugins from 'help/dropdown, "about plugins", that seems to be removed from 7.11, could we reinstate that?
Carry on.

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v7.11 on May 13, 2003

http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/711/

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v7.11 on May 13, 2003

http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/711/

dacaveman

dacaveman reviewed v7.11 on May 11, 2003

cool! i think this version fixed the bug that crashes opera ever 60 minutes. finally.

IoWolf

IoWolf reviewed v7.11 on May 10, 2003

As of version 7, it's the best browser around. Still have problems with some sites build solely for IE, but each release is getting better. Most webmasters, when asked, are willing to try to over come this problem.

Richard30ky

Richard30ky reviewed v7.11 on May 10, 2003

for the first time i actualy like opera they have done a good job on improvments with this browser.very eye pleasing
look,nice skinning,popup blocking,a decant built in mail.
and pages load more faster and correct compare to older versions,this version seem stable on my system..that alone is a improvement over the last version.

lachupa

lachupa reviewed v7.11 on May 9, 2003

Nice browser, really. I try it, it's fast and stable. But I prefer to use MyIE2. Antoher good browser which is fast and free, it's phoenix (btw not much stable but looks promising).

Alex T.

Alex T. reviewed v7.11 on May 9, 2003

Best friggen browser in the world just got better! And the guy who made the comment about not paying...get a life! Its worth every penny!

nant

nant reviewed v7.11 on May 9, 2003

Good thing we have people like you who review programs according to that.

Did you actually try it? Jesus.

veeoh

veeoh reviewed v7.11 on May 9, 2003

paying for a browser? Think i'll just wait for the crack to come along thanks...

Apollos

Apollos reviewed v7.11 on May 9, 2003

Goodayoo, you are not seriously telling me that GoSURF is better than Opera 7.10? If you are, then I believe a) you are the author trying to draw attention to the program or b) a n00b that goes to www.kazza.com and buys kazza :D

grisgris

grisgris reviewed v7.11 on May 9, 2003

Switched from IE to Opera when Version 7 went gold and never looked back. Opera offers many features that IE doesn't, such as mouse gestures, multiple pages within a single browser window (no more going to the task bar to switch!), GREAT skins, and better integrated file transfer/email/newsgroup functions..just to name a few. A much richer browsing experience... Haven't had many website incompatibility issues at all.

Apollos

Apollos reviewed v7.11 on May 9, 2003

I am very fussy when it comes to browsers and for years now I have been using Internet Explorer 6 as my browser as it cut the crap, and was a browser which didn't try to be a 101 other things.

I tried Mozilla, I didn't agree with it, Phoenix was simpler but again, little point if you have Internet Explorer.
I downloaded the new version of Opera, and I was amazed, it loaded things a lot faster, and lacked bloatware which I thought it would be full of. Great program, very conveniant and easy to use, never going back to Internet Explorer.

grisgris

grisgris reviewed v7.11 on May 9, 2003

Switched from IE to Opera when Version 7 went gold and never looked back. Opera offers many features that IE doesn't, such as mouse gestures, multiple pages within a single browser window (no more going to the task bar to switch!), GREAT skins, and better integrated file transfer/email/newsgroup functions..just to name a few. A much richer browsing experience...

goodayoo

goodayoo reviewed v7.10 on May 6, 2003

It used to be my favorate, but now that I find the Gosurf is much better, so, sorry, I should give it 2 points.

goodayoo

goodayoo reviewed v7.10 on May 6, 2003

It's good though, but not as good as Gosurf, well that's the point it truely worth

Alex T.

Alex T. reviewed v7.10 on Apr 11, 2003

Never be Internet Explorer? Are you joking? IE is s***!

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v7.10 on Apr 11, 2003

/me does little dance ;-D

Prey521

Prey521 reviewed v7.10 on Apr 10, 2003

Great browser, but it will never be Internet Explorer, the King

pohlman

pohlman reviewed v7.10 on Apr 10, 2003

Wow. If this doesn't convince you, nothing will. I had a few reservations about 7.x and still kept going back to 6.05 for a few sites, but I may never use 6.05 again. As for IE (Mozilla too slow and bloated, Phoenix too buggy for now...)... I guess you may need it for a badly coded site now and then, but I can't remember the last time I needed it. Try them side by side and Opera will be your default forever. As close to perfect as I've ever seen, and they've only just begun with 7.

ikss

ikss reviewed v7.10 on Apr 10, 2003

The download link requires a user name and password... and 7.10 isn't on the official Opera Website yet:(

thanhhai

thanhhai reviewed v7.10 Beta 3 on Apr 9, 2003

For me, it can become perfect only when it supports Unicode fonts to read Vietnamese characters.

MtnBiker2001

MtnBiker2001 reviewed v7.10 Beta 3 on Apr 8, 2003

For those that say it didn't upgrade their version...if it happened like mine it created another Messenger icon in the programs list...when you click this one and check the version it will be the newer one...really weird MS would have an install like this. But when you fire up your default messenger it's the older one....like I said weird for MS. Hope this helps

seelengarten

seelengarten reviewed v7.10 Beta 3 on Apr 8, 2003

Quite good work! Still miss the function "tile windows automatically" and mouse wheel support fails.

seelengarten

seelengarten reviewed v7.10 Beta 2 on Apr 5, 2003

Opera crashes when chose network options. Think its a new bug. But its still my favourite browser.

weed

weed reviewed v7.10 Beta 2 on Apr 5, 2003

Seems they finally fixed the bookmark problem in this release. It's getting better, seems they still don't include the preference controls that were available under 6.xx though.

mrgrieves

mrgrieves reviewed v7.10 Beta 2 on Apr 5, 2003

Top quality - by far and away the best web browser available. I never thought I would actually pay for something like this, but Opera 7 is (very nearly) perfect. The improvements in 7.10 are very significant too.

Alex T.

Alex T. reviewed v7.10 Beta 2 on Apr 5, 2003

there is. but you have to go to the forums to download it.

RobertM

RobertM reviewed v7.10 Beta 2 on Apr 4, 2003

Good, but anyone have any idea what's new and why Opera's site doesn't have any information about these 7.10 betas?

Freeky

Freeky reviewed v7.10 Beta 2 on Apr 4, 2003

(oh, and don't forget to report problems to news://news.opera.com/opera.beta, and try to do it *before* it goes -RELEASE :)

BlackB1rd

BlackB1rd reviewed v7.10 Beta 1 on Apr 3, 2003

Wow, it's even faster than 7.03! This remains my default browser... Amazing that they can improve the speed more and more every release, well done Opera developers!

Alex T.

Alex T. reviewed v7.10 Beta 1 on Apr 3, 2003

Awesome! This is supposed to be the big version that fixes all the little quirks that are prevented Opera 7 from dominating. The download link worked fine for me.

MadEx2k2

MadEx2k2 reviewed v7.10 Beta 1 on Apr 3, 2003

Love Opera, bu the download link to 7.10 b1 asks for login and pass... Anyone have a mirror?

ezh

ezh reviewed v7.10 Beta 1 on Apr 3, 2003

Opera 7 supports non standart IE's extentions and tags.

This is sucks. Mozilla is much better.

dr_goodbytes

dr_goodbytes reviewed v7.10 Beta 1 on Apr 3, 2003

Great Browser, much better than IE, Netscape or dare i say it, mozilla. I'd recommend it to anyone.

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v7.03 on Mar 17, 2003

O7's UI need some polishing but the new render engine is a big improvement. Having tried Moz and Phoenix, Opera 7 retains the title as my favourite browser. ;-)

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v7.03 on Mar 15, 2003

For the Layout and graphics no other browser comes close to it I tried all of them.. for speed I think it's faster than IE and mozila.. but testing it for 3 hours of surfing I noticed that Opera ate all my memory and resources when I let it manage the memeory by it self though I have 384 MB it killed my system. So I tried to set up fixed memeory 30 MB for the images and 30 For the documents still it eats far than that.. I am not sure why maybe cause I had server cheching option on NEVER so it will bring from catch if available first. I really do not know why?? .. but still the memeory issue is big deal other wise I will give it 5

cybaspace

cybaspace reviewed v7.03 on Mar 15, 2003

Very good program! Was waiting some time for a good all in one program that plays divx / mp3 / mpeg and more. Features are allso great like good subtitle support (even auto load subs). The bad thing is that you have to pay for DVD support. But thumbs up for this nifty player :)

seelengarten

seelengarten reviewed v7.03 on Mar 14, 2003

My favourite browser. Good work. But still miss the function "tile windows automatically" from version 6.

Qlib

Qlib reviewed v7.03 on Mar 13, 2003

I always hated Opera before.. was awaiting the total rewrite for ever so when 7.0 came out.. I wanted to try Opera yet again to see if I would like it this time.. and yeap.. its finally getting to be a useable browser with reasonable levels of compatabillity tho certain sites.. besides msn.com is still a bit ****ed. It does crash occasionally but at least unlike IE it WILL preserve whatever adresses you had open so ya dont loose them.

Congrats Opera.. finally on the right path.

xippon

xippon reviewed v7.03 on Mar 13, 2003

What for relasing Opera 7.0x (or 7.x) when there is no full support with css. It would be the best browser ever, but I prefer viewing pages with browser that show them good

potifer

potifer reviewed v7.02 on Feb 26, 2003

Opera would be the tits if it weren't for the fact that barfs on about 10% of the sites that I regularly go to. That I can deal with, but I'm a little extra miffed that the upgrade process from 7.01 to 7.02 erased EVERYTHING I had personalized (passwords, bookmarks, skins, etc.).

Now that's kind of poor.

Still, it is the best looking browser around, and has the most potential. I'll keep using it until it pisses me off enough to go back to Mozilla or (gasp) MyIE2.

seelengarten

seelengarten reviewed v7.02 on Feb 25, 2003

Besides this "buggy" version, opera is still my favourite browser. Something I miss since 7.xx is the fuction: "Tile windows automatically". It would make browsing much more convenient...

Rolphus

Rolphus reviewed v7.02 on Feb 24, 2003

A word of warning: This version hasn't been released on the Opera main site yet, and seems to have a few bugs regarding launching links using the right-click menu. Also, restoring all open windows upon opening the app seems to be unreliable during my limited testing. Since I have no need to use msn.com, I've gone back to the pre-7.02 "Bork" edition of Opera that's available from their site.

PWT999

PWT999 reviewed v7.02 on Feb 24, 2003

Brilliant browser IMHO the best. It's worth every penny I paid for it. Apart from a few niggles on 7 beta, the final versions for me have been bug free. 10 stars!

whatever_-_

whatever_-_ reviewed v7.02 on Feb 24, 2003

I guess Opera and it's developers do not monitor these comments for user feedback. Here we are release 2 after the 7.0 point release, and the middle mouse button on my Think Pad *still* does not work. I'm torn because, on the one hand, I appreciate the apparent performance boost in 7.02 over.01. OTOH, *I STILL CANNOT USE MY MIDDLE MOUSE BUTTON*.

ai9w

ai9w reviewed v7.01 on Feb 5, 2003

Still has as many or more bugs than last beta (Beta 2) did. I've been a registered and paid user of Opera about 7 or 8 years now and v7.XX is as bad or worse than any version seen in that time. I wouldn't reccomend it to a friend but to enemies, would with vigor.

whatever_-_

whatever_-_ reviewed v7.01 on Feb 5, 2003

Well, scrolling with my Think Pad's middle mouse button still doesn't work. You might say this is a minor point. OTOH I don't think you'd say that if you used Opera 7 for a week or two beside all other non-broken Windows apps. It's so annoying that my family have taken to using K-Meleon and My IE more and more (previously it was Opera all the way.) I'd have given this version a 2.5 if possible, as I don't think it deserves even a 3 because of this issue.

bluelabel

bluelabel reviewed v7.01 on Feb 5, 2003

i thought this release is going to solve the BiDi issue as they promised in version 7,unfortunately it is not :(

Direnc

Direnc reviewed v7.0 Final on Jan 29, 2003

Wow. unlike the betas, this version is actually usable. It renders pages well better than 6.05. The only catches for me are that:
-- The bookmark folder tree in 6.x is missing now and bookmarks are very difficult to navigate.
-- The statusbar cannot be embedded in the main button bar. and takes more screen space than before.
Apart from these, no reason to use 6.x anymore.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v7.0 Final on Jan 29, 2003

ADWARE!!!!! Makes my a** itch. Great browser if you feel like paying for it unless you enjoy g** a** adware. Why would they add adware ill stick with mozilla or IE6 even though opera is a good browser the adware or payment is a turn off.

whatever_-_

whatever_-_ reviewed v7.0 Final on Jan 28, 2003

Ah yes, I remembered what my third gripe was, when I tried to scroll down to read my comment after it was submitted. OPera v7 will not use the third button on my IBM Think Pad to scroll with, like every other Windows application does. This is incredibly annoying guys, please fix it asap. :-) Yep, I am indeed using the latest track point drivers so that's not it. ;-)

jrepin

jrepin reviewed v7.0 Final on Jan 28, 2003

This is quite a nice browser. it's worth trying it out. You may like it. It has great support for internet standards. But for now I still prefer Mozilla.

cdaledave

cdaledave reviewed v7.0 Beta 2 on Dec 19, 2002

Finally, Opera has a password manager. This is really great. I can't wait to see the final release!

moov

moov reviewed v7.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2002

THE BEST BROWNSER int he world ! Opera 7.0 (the beta2) is simply wonderful ! many thanks to Opera Team

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v7.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2002

Yeah...Much better now! :)
They fixed a LOT of things here (build 2577) and the new "windows" (=washed) skin alleviates the bloated look&feeling of the previous release.
Guess I'll consider it as my default browser again.

semprini

semprini reviewed v7.0 Beta 1b on Nov 27, 2002

I've used Mozilla and IE an awful lot and they are not a patch on this. In my opinion this is the most significant update of any browser I have ever seen. Stunning work. Once they iron out the bugs and make sure all features are implemented, it won't be far off perfect.

I never thought I'd pay for a web browser, but this convinced me straight away.

xm41907

xm41907 reviewed v7.0 Beta 1b on Nov 25, 2002

I would like to give this a better review, but it still does not show text on the menu bar for me. I found that this is due to me having a style xp and when I change it to classic, then the menus are visable. But this sin't acceptable, I shouldn't have to change my operating system to get my browser to work properly. It looks like I will be sticking with 6.05 for the time being

mhoppe

mhoppe reviewed v7.0 Beta 1b on Nov 24, 2002

Well, in fact I don't have the problems RedBadger stated: my mousewheel works fine in the new Opera beta release. I like this browser very much: It is extremely fast and has a lot of useful functionality built-in.
Great work!

nant

nant reviewed v7.0 Beta 1b on Nov 23, 2002

Oh and someone should update the screen shot...

nant

nant reviewed v7.0 Beta 1b on Nov 23, 2002

Beta1b comes to fix the few security issues that were brought up some days ago. We'll have to wait for the changelog to know more, thanks Opera. :) Good work on the first beta, quite stable(but you have to change that new interface ;)) btw people, the new look is still in beta as well and the whole thing is still being built, so keep that in mind while reviewing(actually, also keep that in mind when reviewing beta programs since they don't represent everything in the program...)

pohlman

pohlman reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 14, 2002

Okay, so far it seems a bit faster and smoother than 6.05. Too bad you can't customize it much yet, though. This sucker is UGLY and I'm really fond of the look I have on my old one. So, for looks alone 6.05 will remain my default until this is finished (since it's not THAT much smoother and faster), but it still feels friendlier than #2 choice Phoenix. For a beta, it's worth 5. If this was the final release I would dock it a star for looks.

apalmer

apalmer reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 14, 2002

I've used Oper 7 b1 for only one day, it's true, but already I love it. I've not seen a sniff of a problem although I wasn't too keen that it took over the existing shortcuts for version 6, rather than creating its own. As I design for the Web I need to be able to test in as many browsers as possible, not just the latest, even if it is the greatest!

Floodland

Floodland reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 14, 2002

Yes! This browser rules!
I've been using from 5.0 and now can say: When final version comes out, I'll never use IE or Mozilla again. Best browser by far, small, FAST, good and does not spy you (M$ IE and netscrap does)
It has now some bugs, but I think it's normal, since it is the first beta of a x.0 version with a new rendering engine.
It now renders perfecly the micro$oft page (version 6.x doesn't). It talks really really good from development team. Keep the good work!

limasign

limasign reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 14, 2002

It´s a very new interface design with some interesting new implications. next betas will become much more optimised, i hope, as it always is done by opera software co.!!!

Pistos

Pistos reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 14, 2002

Being an Opera user since 5.*, I have to say that this beta is "adequate". I'm not blown away by any of the new features, but it's nice to see that they've redone the rendering engine, so that the times I have to go crying to IE are a bit reduced. Unfortunately, there are a few bugs which are irritating enough for me to just keep using version 6 until the next beta (or the final) comes out. For example, the mouse gestures don't always get detected properly (this was never an issue in 6). In just 24 hours of usage, twice I've seen an open-in-new-window window appear completely filled with black. I miss the old buttons vs. these new tabs because when I minimize, the minimized titlebars show up in addition to the tabs! Folders in your personal bar are not completely bug free; I clicked "Open all folder items" in one, and it opened all the items from a different folder (my most recently clicked one in the hotlist). As well, the subwindows are no longer painted by WindowBlinds... *sniff*. These problems notwithstanding, I will definitely check out each subsequent release, and will likely switch to 7 when the final comes out.

_Pepe_

_Pepe_ reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 14, 2002

In our company we never really supported Opera 6 because the lack of the ability to modify content once its was loaded. It didnt either support css like, clipping and display.

After testeing the new beta for half an hour I can only say one thing, congratulations Opera team, this browser kicks ass. Full DOM 2 support + supporting IE extension and great CSS support is simply great. Now we will defintly start to support this browser.

Janus_Alpha

Janus_Alpha reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 14, 2002

First for the person with seeing text in the menu....try using the default theme (if ur using xp) that happened to me aswell. The app itself seems slicker than the original (g** d*** ads though). With the Mo revolution with fast rendering and no pop ups Opera doesn't have that much to offer the modern desktop user, they better add something revolutionary in beta 2 if they wanna keep anyone's interest.

lazyskillz

lazyskillz reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 14, 2002

I really, really wanted to like this program. I used Opera exclusively and even uninstalled IE5 from my Win98 using 98lite (www.litepc.com). Then I discovered MyIE2. I still kept checking Opera.com for Opera 7 because I heard so many good things about it.

Imagine my excitement when I downloaded and installed Opera 7 today. That excitement turned to disappointment rather quickly. There is nothing new in Opera 7! It is just a new GUI with flash effects for the navigation buttons. That's about it. It still doesn't render some sites correctly (If you have a uReach.com account, try signing in). The worse thing is that the new Opera feels slower. Not just accessing web pages but general stuff like clicking on the menus, etc. I'm sorry but no more Opera for me.

Junyor

Junyor reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 13, 2002

Freeky:

You can change the HTTP Accept header by adding a
Http Accept= line to the [ADV USER PREFS] section of the opera6.ini file. At least, that's the way it works in Opera 6.0x....

I'd probably be a good idea to figure out what Opera is sending now before changing it, so you don't leave something important off. :)

Freeky

Freeky reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 13, 2002

I'm very impressed for this first beta -- it's fast, it's relatively stable, and it's features are shaping up very nicely.

Top points:

Author/User mode is much more flexible, providing built in styles to do anything from high contrast colour to banner blocking (set up User Mode to include author style/colours, then enable "Hide Certain Sized Elements").

Alternate stylesheet support -- it doesn't appear to have the ability to save it unfortunately, putting it on-par with Mozilla.

onload Popup blocking (F12 -> Open Requested Popups Only), at last!

Much faster layouter, which no longer blocks to load images, and is conciderably faster dealing with tables and complex CSS layouts.

Optgroup support -- Opera 6 doesn't even *work* properly with optgroups, 7 supports it fully, yay.

application/xhtml+xml actually works with linked stylesheets. Now they just need adding to the Accept header, assuming it doesn't contain other problems I didn't notice.

Toolbar editor, so you don't have to manually edit .ini's to change the order of buttons. The default skin's a little Macish for me, but others will be ported, never fear.

CSS pseudoclasses like :hover are finally supported on arbitary elements, although there's some positioning problems. Once fixed, fully CSS DHTML-ish menus will be ours, muwahaha. Er, assuming IE7 supports it too :)

It's rough around the edges like early beta's are expected to be, but I'm pleased with what I'm seeing.

NelsonC

NelsonC reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 13, 2002

Amazing program but still no password manager!! add a password manager and you would be unstoppable.!! right next to Mozzila.. or netscape 7... SWEEEEEET

bsf

bsf reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 13, 2002

it's pretty fast and on a very fast connection, it even somehow shows the images faster.
but, one thing not my preferences is that the buttons are WAY too huge. maybe buttons as big as the system tray would be good enough, although I think that's still too big.

but it got good concepts and pretty stable.
good for users who aren't like me =P

surfbum4fun

surfbum4fun reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 13, 2002

Man -what a great upgrade. the video chatting is A-1. Makes Yahoo's IM video silly...

CycloneX

CycloneX reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 13, 2002

More better builts coming along...I prefer Java anyways ;-)
RedBadger was saying something about the "security" holes,,, you must mean the index dat file...I.E does save everything you been too...Helps to use a different Browser..i know cuz I'm using 3 others.

homiebrah

homiebrah reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Nov 13, 2002

Much faster than MoZilla and IE, and certainly faster than Netscape 6/7. Loads pages quickly, even over dial-up. Excellent use of page history. Clicking back brings up the cached page a lot faster than IE. Why should we let MS tell us how web pages should look?

betasun

betasun reviewed v6.05 on Aug 14, 2002

Ofcourse not faster than Mozila,but faster than IE,NetCaptor and many more.its usefriend ,has many useful faetures and unique in grafic interface .finally I LIKE IT.

acetate

acetate reviewed v6.05 on Aug 13, 2002

Very fast (faster than MSIE & Netscape) and very stable. Most pages i surf work with Opera.

mayakovski

mayakovski reviewed v6.05 on Aug 13, 2002

I hope this version is better than 6.03 which crashes on Windows 2000 an awful lot.

MyMaster

MyMaster reviewed v6.04 Final on Jun 29, 2002

this browser is horrendous. not only is NOT the faster browser (mozilla is), but renders most pages poorly. long live MOZILLA, MUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Evolution

Evolution reviewed v6.04 Final on Jun 29, 2002

Great Program! But perhaps you could re-add the font option to change the entire font colour, also the gui editor is certainly a good idea? Perhaps you could have a variety of icon libraries for the weather icons.

Cormac

Cormac reviewed v6.04 Final on Jun 29, 2002

Bah! This version is probably just fine... As the others, if you, as a web-developer, use nothing but pre-tags. Opera cannot even display bold text right... What's wrong with this browser? I hate it! Sorry for venting my spite, I just had to :)

DPK

DPK reviewed v6.04 Final on Jun 29, 2002

Great software that keeps on getting better. Keep up the good work!

anthonyroberts

anthonyroberts reviewed v6.04 Beta Build 1129 on Jun 20, 2002

It definitely works better than the last version. And Redbadger--Mozilla is not a clone of Netscape, Netscape is a clone of Mozilla.

Klaude

Klaude reviewed v6.04 Beta Build 1129 on Jun 19, 2002

"Fixed crash caused by faulty wml.css" I was unable to use the previous Build (1126). Now, no problem. :-)

biikman

biikman reviewed v6.04 Beta Build 1126 on Jun 14, 2002

Also crashes on start up for me, all previous version work great. Using Mozilla and IE6 also.

RedBadger

RedBadger reviewed v6.04 Beta Build 1126 on Jun 14, 2002

Ditoa, I posted a link to a website that gave step by step proof of IE's spyware. But apparently this website deleted it for whatever reason.

Opera is the best browser even if certain things aren't perfect. Anything is better than using Microsoft spyware. Mozilla is ok, but its just an exact clone of Netscape.

spectrum200

spectrum200 reviewed v6.04 Beta Build 1126 on Jun 14, 2002

Opera 6.04 Build 1120 works fine.
This new build (1126) crashes instantly on two seperate Win98SE machines! Oh well, back to build 1120.

phoenixx_

phoenixx_ reviewed v6.04 Beta Build 1126 on Jun 14, 2002

Adware!
Both IE and Mozilla are free.
And besides, mozilla is lightningfast, and has also tabbed browsing...plus is much more standards compliable

MadEx2k2

MadEx2k2 reviewed v6.04 Beta Build 1120 on Jun 6, 2002

The best browser out there in my opinion. Mozilla 6.0 is nice, IE 6.0 is nice -- but Opera got them both on the necks in terms of options, features, and interface.

ditoa

ditoa reviewed v6.04 Beta Build 1120 on Jun 6, 2002

Still a great browser but with the release of Mozilla 1.0 i think it is gonna find things a little harder. Still it is a great browser just not :( i think in this day and age browsers need to be free to survive!

Blitzkrieg

Blitzkrieg reviewed v6.03 on May 28, 2002

I have been using Opera since version 3. Version 6 has finally made the default browser throne. I know some sites Opera doesn't render properly and that's usually because the site wasn't coded to W3C specs, and that's not Opera's fault. You know Microsoft's site will only be properly viewable in it's own browser.

While there are many features of Opera I am fond of. One of the smallest features happens to be a personal favorite, and that's the mouse gestures.
Hold the right mouse button and click the left - Browser Back.
Hold the left mouse button and click right - Browser Forward.
Hold the right mouse button and move the cursor down and up on the page - Duplicate page.
Knowing these and going to IE, you'll find yourself trying the gestures on IE and be like, "Crap, I'm in IE!" more than "Crap, I'm in Opera!". If you do go to a trouble or popup crazy site, remember "F12" will instantly bring up some quick options. Knowing the features of Opera really makes Opera shine like no other browser!!

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v6.03 on May 27, 2002

I have a big gripe, the fact that I cant visit microsoft.com because it wont even display properly. I have reported this to them but have yet to get a response

Zootopia3000

Zootopia3000 reviewed v6.02 on May 15, 2002

I believe the person is talking about the index.dat file.

Zootopia3000

Zootopia3000 reviewed v6.02 on May 15, 2002

My only gripe with Opera is the inability to scroll the (Hotlist)favorites window with the mouse wheel. Hate having to use the scrollbar. This 6.02 final version is faster than 6.01(IMHO), and faster is better.

ditoa

ditoa reviewed v6.02 on May 15, 2002

RedBadger - can you please show me where you got this information from? I have seen LOADS of things like this but all from sources that have no proof!

Hit_Amok

Hit_Amok reviewed v6.02 on May 15, 2002

Alright. I tested the SMS-Thingy on my phone. First of all: They did NOT tell me that registraation costed a little bit over a dollar. And when I first sent a message (to my own phone for testing) then it sent the same message 4 times. Maybe it was because my computer crashed and I was still logged in to the SMS-thing when it crashed, but anyways, Opera should fix this. So I will only give it a 4 this time because of that. But the browser is still the best!

Hit_Amok

Hit_Amok reviewed v6.01 Final on May 15, 2002

On opera.com you can now get The final version of Opera 6.02. And that one has a new SMS-function so u can write SMS-Messages straight from your browser. U can write 11 Messages for a little over a dollar. This is currently only working in Norway. And in Norway we will actually save money ssending SMS from Opera.

RedBadger

RedBadger reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1101 on May 11, 2002

This is a very nice browser, even with the ad displayed at the top of the screen... which I hardly even notice.

I used to be a die-hard IE6 and Microsoft supporter. But am no longer, after seeing the light.

Anyone who knows about all the hidden spyware Microsoft has hidden into IE6, would switch to Opera in a heartbeat. And yes I didn't believe it till I read about it, and saw for myself. For one thing Microsoft hides in a locked system hidden file, every web site you have ever visited since installing IE6... even setting IE to delete the list, it doesn't delete them in the hidden file. I would like Microsoft to please explain why this hidden file exists, and why it stores everything. (you can use a "washer" type program to get rid of it, but I no longer trust anything made by Microsoft).

I now see why so many people hate Microsoft. Perhaps one day Linux will rise above Windows for game support... we can only hope. (and yes I used to be a strong anti-linux person, but no more).

JoshuaML

JoshuaML reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1101 on May 11, 2002

This is perhaps the BEST web browser I have ever used. As pointed out in the below review, IE is in fact loaded almost half way into memory when you start the OS. So as he said, comparing IE to Opera is not totally a fair trial. Of course IE will load faster if its already half loaded to begin with.

As for Opera, I love it, the MDI interface is great. Not having to worry about a site that opens 200 popups cluttering up your taskbar is nice too. Only one thing that they need to work on, the plugin capabilities. I have a few that I would like to use but cant just yet, but I am willing to wait. I am still evaluating this and if they improve a few more features I am planning to purchase it.

In my honest opinion, a browser doesnt get better than this. Give it a shot :)

maad deeb

maad deeb reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1101 on May 11, 2002

first before you judge Opera or others..don't forget that IE is partaily loaded into normal windows run..(because of the shared part betwwen windows and IE..) other web-browsers are loaded fully when you run it. either than that nothing is in memory..so if you want to compare web-browsers just test it on linux or mac and see the diffrence.. or remove IE from windows (which will increase performance about 10%).. do i need IE partaily loaded if i use the system for autocad or photoshop.. i need more space...thats why i never regret removing IE from my system..

I like opera because it is compact. it can be like other web-browsers with the cost of larger size..if you don't like it go to mozilla..it is a faster-netscape-clone..

Opera improves slowly becuase it is maintenance releases..(that why it is sub-numbering x.xx not v7.0 or v8.0).and if you have bugs just post it the beta forum.. it will be fixed in future rleases..

well, opera for my needs is more than enogh..(not 100% but better than others..) my second one is mozilla which is going rock.. but it is large to opera and small to netscape or IE ..(again IE can make smaller install becuase most of the shared file..which are not updated.."OLD"..is already on your system..oooh)

finally don't play with fire

leveck

leveck reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1101 on May 11, 2002

I have tried each of the beta versions of Opera and I am not satisfied with the performance. It simply does not render many sites properly and it locks up on some. Furthermore, I do not find it to be faster than IE6.

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1090 on Apr 28, 2002

OPera is very good browser.. this beta.. does not render some pages right in win2000.. or may be with me.. ver 601 does it much better, Shape up Opera.. Mozzila.. is comming strong.. I will give it 5 for the light and speed...

Richard30ky

Richard30ky reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1090 on Apr 26, 2002

doesnt show pages correctly as all other builds ive not yet to see the speed all are talking about ? adware unless you wanna spend some money on a bug browser - annoying security warning popups when you access web base mail - big improvement on the layout looks and features though - popup stopper -skin ability - personal bar ect ect- which you get all that in most browsers now adware free

Eelfinn

Eelfinn reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1090 on Apr 26, 2002

Easy. Just easy. Easy to set up. Easy to use. Easy-going. And the 1090 sure does seem to have improved stability over the previous betas.

One slightly arcane point, but I'll make it nonetheless: Ever tried to make a browser run on a 486-66 laptop with 16 MByte RAM running Windows NT? Well, with Opera it's all in a day's work...

Eelfinn

MadEx

MadEx reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1090 on Apr 26, 2002

Excellent browser! Some things don't display 100% perfectly opposed to IE, but that's fine. This browser is very configurable, and will take a loads off your taskbar while heavily surfing. You can easily stop those annoying popups from appearing, and closing unwanted windows is a snap. Overall this is a great browser, and a great alternative to IE/Netscape. Excellent browser, download now and at least give it a shot I promise you will be in love!

-=[Mad]=-

user101

user101 reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1078 on Apr 12, 2002

Excellent program. I used to use Netscape but I got sick of installing Netscape and having to put up with all the extras like Winamp, AOL icons all over the place, and other junk. Opera has a great interface, though the navigation buttons could use a bit of colour. Excellent features, such as pop-up window blocker (though other browsers have that by now too), mouse navigation, and the ability to have search bars casually intergrated in the interface, and not as addons, or ones that jump out at you. They're just there when you need them. Overall, it is the probably the best browser, but I still can't give it a five for these reasons: no ability to delete cookies from within the browser, and doesn't remember passwords.

xVariable

xVariable reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1078 on Apr 12, 2002

Hawkeye, with all due respect: removing IE from W98 and swapping in the W95 Explorer (with 98 Lite) makes a HUGE difference in memory useage, available RAM for non-OS apps, and overall system responsiveness. The more things you add to the mix, the more things the OS has to juggle and cache. Removing IE and swapping-in W95's Explorer makes a huge difference.

You said:

1) IE doesn't take that much memory. Well, this is a subjective opinion. How do you define "too much"? Probably pretty much the exact opposite of how I'd define it.

2) Removing IE cripples the OS? Pffft, those that don't understand how 98 Lite works, don't believe this for a second. IMO (and that of countless thousands (millions?) of others), removing IE from Windows LIBERATES it. Do you really think all these people using 98 Lite would continue to do so if it "crippled" their OS? This is just pure FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt.)

Oh btw, Opera rocks as usual.

lordcyber

lordcyber reviewed v6.01 Final on Apr 12, 2002

Until Recently I've always been a diehard Internet Explorer Fan, but when Microsoft decided that Internet Explorer 5.5 would be the last version of IE that would install and work on a Win95 based system I started looking around for a viable alternative. when I tried out Opera 6.01 I knew I had found it!!

Yes there are still people running Win95, a lot of my customers are still running older systems that simply can't support win98 or anything newer than win95. I just want to make sure that they have a decent web browser that will work well. Opera 6.01 is the solution.

Hawkeye

Hawkeye reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1066 on Apr 5, 2002

IGx89, ieradicator does not work on Windows XP. There is no way to remove IE from it, as it basically makes up the entire Windows shell. Even when that program is used on Win98 it pretty much cripples the OS. IE does not take up that much room anyway so what is the point?

Back to Opera, it's getting better with every release. I really love the popup blocking feature. Some pages don't look quite right, but they don't really look bad either. I'm not sure it's worth paying for yet, but it is certainly getting there.

IGx89

IGx89 reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1066 on Mar 29, 2002

Zmodem, a program that completely removes IE most certainly DOES exist, and has been around for a while:
http://www.98lite.net/ieradicator.html

nant`

nant` reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1066 on Mar 27, 2002

Wolf, Opera's cache is not saved where IE's cache is saved, it is saved in Oper'a folder. Look in Preferences->History and Cache

TheWolf1965

TheWolf1965 reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1066 on Mar 27, 2002

Now that I have installed it and had it up and running for a few hours I remember the problem now. It builds up information inside the program somewhere other than cache that slow the operation and webpage changing bigtime. Window Washer will not clean it out nor dumping the temp, temporary internet files, history, cookies, and even windows prefetch folder. If they could sort out what causes the slowdown this would be the world's most awsome browser. Until they do that fact alone will put it behind both Netscape 6.22 and Mozilla 0.99 which can be dumped in the above respects.

Zmodem

Zmodem reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1066 on Mar 26, 2002

TheWolf1965: You can't remove IE. It's embedded into the OS. Any program that claims to remove it, does so by simply removing the icon.
OPERA RULES. I love it. It keeps getting better and better with every new version. I love the way you can even change the User-Agent string :)

TheWolf1965

TheWolf1965 reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1061 on Mar 20, 2002

Ok I have read all of your opinions on Opera and in alot of cases agree with you. It is a fast browser and a good browser that uses a lot less space than IE or Netscape. I have one question. How do you get the IE off your system or deintegrated from a Windows XP system so you can alot the space when using this small great browser.

tomgilder

tomgilder reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1061 on Mar 20, 2002

I'm sorry but saying "Opera is the most standards-compliant browser" and "IE doesn't support standards" simply isn't true. I use 100% valid XHTML 1.1 and CSS for layout - I have *NEVER* had a page render 100% correctly without modification within Opera - even when they have worked in IE6/Mozilla. IE now supports pretty much all of HTML4, CSS1 (with the majority of CSS2), DOM1, XSLT, XPath - the list goes on and on. Technically Mozilla is in the lead for standards-support. I'd say IE and Opera were pretty much on a par - good intentions but often poorly implemented.

cdaledave

cdaledave reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1061 on Mar 20, 2002

GimieGimieGimie: Go to news.opera.com and send a message to the wishlist newsgroup.

GimieGimieGimie

GimieGimieGimie reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1061 on Mar 19, 2002

I use Internet Explorer because Opera is very bad at saving webpages offline, which is depend on 24/7. It's a damn shame, apart from that, Opera is the king of web browsing!

Anyone know where i can complain?

kmansuri

kmansuri reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1056 on Mar 17, 2002

Seriously, why are you using Internet Explorer?
Opera is the most W3-compliant browser in existance!
First let me get the bad out of the way - this is a shareware beta, there is full functionality but there is a banner at the top. Okay now onto the great part! If you're like me, you may have a ton of IE or Mozilla windows open at once or may have multiple instances of IE open at the same time, wasting valuable system resources. Opera can open up all your windows from within the same session and keeps track of them via its "Tabbed Browsing" feature. It's really, really fantastic. Also, sick of those annoying pop-up banners? Opera has an effective pop-up banner option in its preferences! I also forgot to mention, Opera claims to be the fastest browser in existance. I can't say they are lying about that, because load times are actually much faster than mozilla/netscape, and on par and sometimes faster than IE! The browser also has the ability to trick websites into thinking that you are really using IE or Netscape, so you can use MSN.COM websites and all Microsoft sites without any sort of problem! It all works flawlessly, and is the best browser in existance. Just make sure to get this non-java version, as it loads a lot quicker, and uses less resources. (Java is the biggest pile of crap ever, down with SUN!)

ilikedirtthe2nd

ilikedirtthe2nd reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1056 on Mar 13, 2002

no other browser reaches the effectiveness of opera's mdi interface.

thadk

thadk reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1056 on Mar 12, 2002

Watch out people, doesn't look like any one else has run into this beta glich as theres nothing else here but my bookmark file got hosed. I opened this Opera beta yesterday and all the sudden my bookmark file (Opera6.adr file i think) was completly empty

Hit_Amok

Hit_Amok reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1056 on Mar 12, 2002

Vrooden: Opera has almost no security bugs! The only one i heard of was one in 6.0 beta! Something about that opera leaked passwords through the Cache! Well, anyways, its fixed now and we remain with this high-security excellent browser. And have u senn the little space it takes? IE takes about 45 megabyte!

Joco

Joco reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1056 on Mar 10, 2002

Used this prg since 2 years. Like MDI interface, bookmark system easy to save, open several URL in one click (an entire bookmark folder), download status window, Google search directly in the addr bar (Ex: type "g myThing" open Google wih KW myThing prefilled). In some rare circumtances I have to use IE6 when the web site is designed to be specific IE (Javascript using MS'Dhtml) or HTTPS sites.
I only use the browser, never the integrated mailer or instant message. If anyone have tried this associated tools, I'd like to know how good they're. If I have to choose the most important feature, I'd say it's the MDI interface. Because it's really painful to have the task bar cluttered by all IE instances when you open several URLs. And no, the feature of XP grouping all instances of a prg in one same taskbar spot is less powerful, as you can not see what are hidden in the group (and often end up to re-open the same URL again)

vrooden

vrooden reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1056 on Mar 10, 2002

Yep, Direnc, that's something I forgot to mention in my review: the user interface is unbeatable in my opinion. If you're getting used to it (and I was quickly as I'm nearly more using keyboard and shortcuts than mouse) there's no browser out there giving you that comfort. F4 and my bookmarks show up and hide again, F12 and the most important settings are there, Strg+N and I have a new window and am immediately able to enter a new address or type TAB to be in the search field. Integrated PopUp-Stopper, great cookie handling, ... and last not least: the MDI interface rulez!

Ah, and finally: do any serious security bugs have been found yet? On this IE is far from being competitive *g*.

+Vrooden

GimieGimieGimie

GimieGimieGimie reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1056 on Mar 9, 2002

I last tried Opera when it reached it's 6.0 stage. I don't know if it was just me, but i didn't like it that much but this version of Opera 6.02 really excels in excellence. I must give Opera 5 stars, Opera's starting and running speed is super fast, faster then IE and takes slightly less resources. There are 10's of more options then IE has to offer, and navigation, like the previous poster said is top notch and cannot be beaten. I can change Opera to customize to my needs for efficent web browsing and downloading. Bottom line is, Opera lets you do everything IE can do, but better. I do admit some websites don't show up right, that's why i have IE always by my side :)

Direnc

Direnc reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1056 on Mar 9, 2002

Opera is not only about speed and standarts compliane. There is the excellent user interface, the ability to browse 20+ sites at once with ease, nice bookmark system and so much more. People switching from MSIE or Netscape to Opera usually miss these features, they are not used to expect such stuff from a browser.

TRGxShady

TRGxShady reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1056 on Mar 9, 2002

This is fast - very, very fast. Takes less than half the time than IE and NN take to access pages. Being W3C compliant it's the ultimate test for all web pages - if it doesn't work in Opera it doesn't belong on the 'net (that includes you too DreamWeaver)... I rest my case. -Sam

My review is like that at the top of my review cuz i just test my webpages that i build with opera and if the page doesn't work with opera so i don't make it available online...opera is the best browser in this ****in' world...IE is to slow and the start-up speed of Netscape suxxx really so....download this stuff...it gets with every version better and faster

sopheryth

sopheryth reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1052 on Mar 6, 2002

This is fast - very, very fast. Takes less than half the time than IE and NN take to access pages. Being W3C compliant it's the ultimate test for all web pages - if it doesn't work in Opera it doesn't belong on the 'net (that includes you too DreamWeaver)... I rest my case. -Sam

vrooden

vrooden reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1052 on Mar 6, 2002

Using Opera since v4.x I realize it's getting better and better with each version. Although there _are_ pages out there which don't work properly, it's the best and fastest browser out there.

Designer's Nightmare: well, DESIGNERS won't have problems. I perfer to design a page using Opera for testing. So I can be sure it will also work with Netscape 4+, Mozilla and Internet Exploders. And also WEB PROGRAMMERS (who do the kinky stuff like menus etc...) should use Opera as primary platform, not IE like unfortunatly most do :((

Problem is NOT that a browser must be conform with standards. Problem is, it must also be tolerant to buggy and proriatary programmed pages.

Back to Opera: best and most comfortable browser there is, so... 5 points!

ilasoft

ilasoft reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1052 on Mar 5, 2002

Designers nightmare... I can bare with NS, but Opera? That's too much! Used to be a good product, but went downhill since... Lower then the ground level now...

Tri-Gy

Tri-Gy reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1047 on Feb 23, 2002

Opera rulez..!!!
The Mouse gestures are great those make browsing simple and fast.....
It's going to be the best browser.....

guti

guti reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1047 on Feb 23, 2002

It hangs on my system.
Maybe it is caused by the Nvidia Nview 2.0 beta.
Anyway I give it a 5, 6.01 is great!

kizer

kizer reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1047 on Feb 23, 2002

Why cant they put some screen shots up on their page or here on betanews? Rather lame to download a product just to say ack the interface sucks @$$. So I didn't and I wont ;)

ditoa

ditoa reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1047 on Feb 23, 2002

very nice program, gets better and better with every release, i just wish it would support layers like IE does, i know it is mostly the webmasters fault but i can understand why it is used so much it is a very nice way to make a menu system, i hope Opera supports better CSS, dHTML and layers in the future, however on my system IE5.5 loads pages faster than Opera as i am on a 1Mbit Cable Connection.

bobad

bobad reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1047 on Feb 23, 2002

Opera looks cheap as a $30 suit. If it were lightning fast and stable, one could put up with the cheesiness. What I like best is the tabbed interface and the ability to uninstall it, which I just did. I hate the fact that I cannot uninstall IE, so I use Net Captor so I at least don't have to look at the IE interface. (bobad@charter.net)

RAT

RAT reviewed v6.02 Beta Build 1047 on Feb 23, 2002

This Browser is simply the best. I'm wondering how IE and his stupid interface (compared to operas great functional, MDI- and user-friendly Interface) could come that far.
There's a cool community around Opera, check my.opera.com for skins, sidebars and other stuff.
Yes, some of you people saying they need IE sometimes, you are right, some pages are constructed with such strange kinds of java-script oder DHTML... But that's the web-designers fault, not operas! ;-)

cdaledave

cdaledave reviewed v6.01 Final on Feb 9, 2002

Overall, Opera is a great product. With 6.01 I've been experiencing a rather annoying bug. When moving back and forth through pages in my history, I'll get pages that won't render completely. Images will display, but text disappears. Example is my livejournal friends page. I haven't tested to see if this problem is isolated to just my luck.

nhavar

nhavar reviewed v6.01 Final on Feb 9, 2002

the agreement was that AOL would find one partner to sign with before it offered advanced IM services such as video, multimedia. It was then legally obligated to sign two more competitors within 180 days. It's first signee conveniently went bankrupt after the arangements were made and to my knowledge AOL has not taken steps to sign any other "partners", although I believe that legally they still have a little time in which to do so. Taking Trillian to court would have many many problems. 1) Trillian is not really doing anything illegal 2) AOL would be reminded of their own legal responsibilities. 3) It would probably give the DOJ more fuel for the fire in it's ongoing investigations of antitrust issues with AOL 4) It would give MS more ammo for converting AOL users.
Hopefully this little fight will continue to show people that working with AOL is just not doable at this point. Until AOL makes a major change in how it deals with others, people will continue to rally behind anyone who fights the real "Evil Empire".

golbex

golbex reviewed v6.01 Final on Feb 8, 2002

Finally, back and forward mouse buttons!

omnirune

omnirune reviewed v6.01 Final on Feb 8, 2002

I am a webmaster for a respectable company and I personally try out various browsers in order to make sure that our pages will look correct. I have nothing but the best to say about Opera. Fast, excellent browser that you will become familiar with, especially if you switch between Windows and Linux environments on a constant basis. Give it a go.

IGx89

IGx89 reviewed v6.01 Beta Build 1029 on Jan 25, 2002

I just love Opera; been using it since 5.0 :)
There's no reason to run it in WINE, there's a linux-only version of Opera to use!

debonair

debonair reviewed v6.01 Beta Build 1029 on Jan 25, 2002

best there is. too bad I still need to use ie on occation.

hfk

hfk reviewed v6.01 Beta Build 1026 on Jan 19, 2002

outstanding piece of software. i've been using it since v5, and 6 is definitely an improvement in many ways. there are some compatibility problems with some pages, which is why i keep IE on hand just in case. However, I rarely need IE: Opera is fine 99% of the time. If you want to experinece the ultimate in web-browsing then you need to give Opera 6 a try. And for the skinners out there: background images and icons are configureable, and there are some nice icon sets available (try gnome and hi-tech, both should be available on the Opera website)

popeye

popeye reviewed v6.01 Beta Build 1026 on Jan 18, 2002

It's coming fast and furious! Still like though.

psychedelic_fur

psychedelic_fur reviewed v6.01 Beta Build 1025 on Jan 18, 2002

It's a good browser for most of the things. Yes it got it's share of bug or problems whatever u wish to call. It doesn't render few web pages as good as other browsers. It craches a lot on my machine. And over the years it has become slow, but at times still faster than other browser. I guess opera 3.61 was the fastest. Does not offer me few other features i would have liked to see. Inspite of all these overall it's a good browser.

espectro

espectro reviewed v6.01 Beta Build 1025 on Jan 18, 2002

The only things i like about Opera better than IE is: download size, can be uninstalled, tabbed windows.
It is not more stable, it does not render some pages as good as other browsers, has LOTS of JS problems (the main bug IMHO), footprint is not lower than IE
These betas are a lot stabler than 6.0 under my use, i havent got a crash yet.

Still good little adware browser, best download manager in a browser too

popeye

popeye reviewed v6.01 Beta Build 1023 on Jan 17, 2002

Work great, but very aggrevating pop up window that always comes up reminding it is beta. It happens everytime you open Opera 6.01 1223. It is a big pain! Can't be deleted or removed. I can see it doing once to warn you it is beta, but not all the time.

zippy_the_pinhead

zippy_the_pinhead reviewed v6.0 Final on Dec 7, 2001

I'm really impressed! I tried Opera 4 & 5 and I thought they were mediocre if that, but they've got it right this time. Really a 1st class browser.

turnaround

turnaround reviewed v6.0 Final on Dec 1, 2001

Very nice - as has been said, need to fire up IE or Netscape *occassionally*, but more rarely than ever. Opera is really coming into it's own.

speedmeister

speedmeister reviewed v6.0 Final on Nov 29, 2001

I have used the last several versions of Opera and I must say that Opera 6 is quite a bit of an improvement over previous versions. The new UI looks a lot better than old one. By default the chrome includes a lot of bars that seem unneccesary. Fortunately one can get the chrome down to whatever you use. The addition of the option of using an SDI interface makes the learning curve from other browser much smaller.

I haven't been able to discern much of a difference in speed or rendering. For the most part it seems like the primary goal of this release was to do a long overdue overhaul of the UI. It seems like most of the changes that have been made so that one could make the browser look more like Netscape or Internet Explorer. There were a few quirks though. The page loading bar covered the down button while pages were loading.

Richard30ky

Richard30ky reviewed v6.0 Final on Nov 29, 2001

very good improvements the first of opera i actually like and use 90% of the time.only one fualt i hope they fix in the next release or tell how to is when logging into web based mail a java security popup every time ask if want to go that site This is very very annoying and it needs a disable option.but othere than that this one is *****

debonair

debonair reviewed v6.0 Final on Nov 29, 2001

It takes some getting used to, and you still kinda need ie as a backup at times, but 6 has greatly improved it's ability to fly solo. I use Opera 98% of the time, for Linux AND Windows.

Richard30ky

Richard30ky reviewed v6.0 Final on Nov 29, 2001

great improvements,very good options and yeah it is a little faster,what i like best is it doesnt hog up your resources even with multiple pages loaded,has a very good ad popup cotrol,with opera there is no need for popup stoping software,this is the first time i actually switched as opera for the default browser never liked any of the other versions there defantly on he right track with the improved opera nice job so far,only one fualt that i do have against it is when you log on to a webbased email ->hotmail or yahoomail

mickgreen

mickgreen reviewed v6.0 Final on Nov 29, 2001

It's fast, clean and cute. What more do you want? Well, 100% stability would be nice. Trying to start a realvideo on a webpage will make it crash, that's sloppy. If that would be fixed, I'd give it 5 stars. I use it more than IE6 or Mozilla.

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